Basketball student section gets chopped
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See the light blue in the picture above? That's the newly resized WSU student section. Now have a look at the orange part of this map, representing the old student section:
And just like that, say goodbye to the loudest home court in the Pac-10.
The WSU student section used to take up half of Beasley Coliseum, now it only takes up a third. Fans used to hound opponents from two sides of the court, now it's only one.
I had no idea what the ZZU CRU had become until I sat on the other side of the Coliseum with my family two years ago. It was astonishing; one of the loudest venues I have ever heard in sports. It was intimidating beyond belief - Ernie Kent called it the toughest place to play in the Pac-10. And coming from a coach that paces up and down the sideline of MacArthur Court, that's saying something.
Sadly, Beasley Coliseum will never be that loud again.
Certainly the students aren't without blame. Several major games last year saw the upper parts of the student section empty. It was a drastic change from 2006-07 where, after the Gonzaga win, the student section consistently filled up as the Cougs rose to power.
People started to grow tired - not of Cougar basketball, but of waiting an hour or two in line just to end up in the upper deck anyway. And from personal experience I can tell you the lower bowl of Beasley provides a much better game experience than the nosebleed seats. When Cougar basketball hysteria peaked - the game against UCLA in 2007, the line was so long to get in that it stretched from Beasley across the pedestrian bridge and nearly down to Bohler Gym on Colorado Street. I left directly from class to get in line that day about four hours before the game and still found myself waiting on the wrong side of Stadium Way. Three years earlier showing up at that time would've guaranteed you front row wherever you wanted.
The nail in the coffin of the old student section came in the basketball Apple Cup - the two overtime thriller last year in Pullman where the Cougs knocked off the Huskies for the seventh straight time. But it was also Spring Break. A smaller, but every bit as passionate group came out to see WSU that day. In the minds of the athletic department it was already over. The time had come to cut the student section.
That's not what I disagree with. I knew that about 1,000 seats needed to be trimmed off the student section. Financially, and in terms of game experience, it would be more valuable to the school for those empty student seats to become filled spectator seats. What I disagree with is how they cut it: no fans on the baseline on either side, and an overall seating cut of what I estimate at about 2,000 seats based on the diagram above. [Edit: 1500 seats were cut, from 5300 to 3800 - hat tip to dancing football] That's unacceptable.
Maybe my viewpoint will change next year when I'm no longer a student. After all, a sports pass is a darn good deal for a season ticket to every sporting event on campus. But then again WSU raised my professional school tuition 10% this year. Then again, the athletic department selfishly raised sports pass prices on graduate and professional students about $70 because we democratically voted down stadium renovation (the undergrads are already covering the $10 mil for Phase I, so it would've made no difference in overall funding). Then again, I see more and more students going deeper into debt as they try to secure enough money to pay tuition, living expenses, and yes, sports passes. Next year I could probably shell out for the most expensive season tickets on the board and still pay much less than I'm paying the University total right now. And I wouldn't have to show up five hours early to get good seats.
Next year I'll probably be complaining from the other side, about how we pay all the money for Cougar athletics and the students still get a huge cut of the seats. And I'll definitely be whining about the relative apathy on the other side of the arena.
Nevertheless, this is another small cut for the students, part of an overriding trend not just at WSU, but schools around the nation. Students don't pay the most, so they get the least. I understand the WSU is one of the best schools in the country when it comes to size of our student section, but it's because the school needs the student body to fill seats.
But guess what? Students grow up. We're the ones who will be making all the money in twenty years, and we're the ones who will be asked for donations. If WSU is going to shortchange the students now, I'll hardly be surprised if they return the favor later.
And what is with the "courtside seating" below the student section? Will what's left of the ZZU CRU fail to go down to the floor of the arena? Will this whole thing even have a serious financial impact for Cougar basketball?
I'm not trying to say the athletic department is evil. I would cut the student section in half again for four more years of Tony Bennett. We still pay much less for sports passes than the vast majority of BCS-conference schools, and we get our money's worth in quantity and quality of seating. But if you start cutting now, where does it end? Will it be worth it?
For now, Friel Court just got a little quieter. And that is not a good thing.
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They cut 1500 seats
From 5300 to 3800. No student seats on the court is lame. That was amazing my senior year when they took away the “cage.” If there are any courtrushing type games those folks will get trampled.
Thanks for the numbers!
That’s a 28% cut in the student section overall.
And K2 (Gonzaga) seats 6,000 total, so if Sterk’s reading this he probably hates my guts for complaining about this cut.
But it’s a fair argument, in my opinion. Again, I think the dept. was right to trim the student section, but should’ve only cut 750-1000 seats max. And no students on the baseline is bad in terms of home court advantage.
Also, I think it’s time to move women’s games to Bohler, but that’s a whole ’nother post.
by Grady Clapp on Oct 20, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The girls games are way better at Bohler.
The atmosphere is better and feels more like a crowd, but I’m sure if June was showing recruits that was where they would be playing she would have a tougher time.
by Craig Powers on Oct 21, 2008 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, the women's team is getting better
Not that I can conceive of a time when Beasely will be filled for our women’s games, but at least we’re starting to make some noise in there.
I don't believe in the existence of the St. Louis Rams. They're just an urban legend!
by johnnycougar on Oct 22, 2008 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
So much for fun facts...
I sat front and center in the row directly behind the TV announcers last season… It’s the best seat in the house in my opinion… plus you are guaranteed to get on TV… If I can’t do that again this season, I am going to be disappointed.
Are the highest paying alumni the type of people who would WANT to sit directly in front of the student section? I really don’t think so…
Unfortunately, we can't have it both ways
Want to keep Tony Bennett? Then the athletic department has to figure out ways to generate revenue. In my day, the cost of the sports pass was about the equivalent of paying for a football ticket to each of the six home games and then the rest was gravy. I’m guessing it’s similar now, meaning the athletic department can’t just be essentially giving away roughly 50 percent of its seating and still expect to be able to pay nearly a million dollars a year to its head coach.
I know the cut sucks, but that still is a HUGE student section. Check out the student section for Hec-Ed — that dinky little yellow section is the “Dawg Pound.” You want to talk about a tough ticket? They’ve got twice as many students and about 1,000 student seats.
I know you’re worried about the slippery slope, but unfortunately this is the cost of success.
I do agree with you on two fronts, though: Those upper seats are absolutely horrendous (I’ve sat there for my last two games at Beasley), and the women’s team should play at Bohler (although that will never happen).
The only thing I disagree with
is the courtside seats. Between the insane Zzu Crew students yelling in their ears the whole time and the camera guys moving back and forth, people ponying up top dollar for those seats will definitely get an “experience.” Maybe not the one they paid for.
As a side note, speaking as a graduate student, I was totally fine with the increase in sports pass cost for grad / professional students. I agree that the stadium needed to be renovated, and a mandatory fee for all students isn’t a very fair way to go about it. Let the people who attend the games pay a little more to fund the construction.
I don't believe in the existence of the St. Louis Rams. They're just an urban legend!

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