Baynes, Forrest shine in rout of Mississippi Valley State
Fresh off their improbable back-to-back NCAA tournament appearances, there were a lot of prognosticators who thought the Cougs would have trouble maintaining their success this season.
So far, so good.
Aron Baynes scored 14 points and Caleb Forrest matched his career high with 13 as Washington State annihilated Mississippi Valley State, 76-25.
The 25 points allowed are the fewest by WSU in the shot clock era. That stat breaks the record set last year when the Cougars held the same Delta Devils to 26 points in a 71-26 blowout at the Spokane Arena.
Don't be surprised if you have a hard time telling the difference so far between this year's team and last year's. Despite the losses of Derrick Low, Kyle Weaver, and Robbie Cowgill, WSU continues to be dominant on both ends of the floor.
The Cougars held MVSU to 16.7% shooting and held them scoreless for the first 11:32 of the game. During that time WSU opened up a 28-0 lead, and never let up. The Cougars registered eight blocks, including four from freshman DeAngelo Casto and three from redshirt frosh Charlie Enquist. The Cougs only allowed 11 points in the first half, matching the number of MVSU team fouls. Only four Delta Devils scored in the game.
Equally impressive was the Cougar offense. WSU shot 55.3% from the floor, including 46.2% from the new three point line, which is exactly one foot farther from the bucket than last season. Nikola Koprivica, a 14% 3-point shooter last year, went 2 for 3 from behind the arc. Aron Baynes dominated the paint, going 6 for 8 from the field en route to 14 points and five rebounds. Forrest added 13 on a 4 for 8 effort and Daven Harmeling added nine for WSU.
CougCenter player of the game: Aron Baynes. The slimmed down big man looked dominant in the first regular season game of the year, leading all scorers with 14 and playing solid low-post defense on the other end of the court.
Lots of great contributors, though, for WSU last night. Bud Nameck gave his player of the game award to Forrest and the WSUCougars.com basketball blog gave the nod to Marcus Capers (6 points, 6 assists).
CougCenter play of the game: Aron Baynes dunks viciously on a MVSU player who shall remain nameless because 1) I didn't see his number and 2) he really doesn't need further embarrassment.
Now for my notes:
Look who's starting: Nuss was dead on with yesterday's starting lineup, which featured Taylor Rochestie, Klay Thompson, Nikola Koprivica, Daven Harmeling and Aron Baynes. Overall playing time was very balanced for the Cougars, who wanted to give their freshmen some much-needed experience. Ryan Bailey was the only player on the court who played less than ten minutes.
Witherill in, Harthun out: The most surprising move of the night came when Tony inserted freshman Nick Witherill into the lineup. Witherill was expected to redshirt this year, while Mike Harthun, a much more highly-recruited guard out of Oregon, was expected to get playing time. It looks like now it will be Harthun getting the redshirt, while Witherill will be used as another option at guard. It appears that neither will be a part of the regular rotation this season.
While it's a surprise that Harthun may not play this year, it's not a total shock. One of the things I like about Harthun is that he's an honest guy. Here's his own writing from the official athletics blog earlier this month:
The season up to this point has been a humbling experience to say the least. For me it has been a difficult transition from high school, but I look forward to the challenges that it brings each day. In high school I was the best or second best player on the team behind Kyle Singler (currently at Duke). Now on this team I am far from that, but I like it that way. It gives me new goals and things to work on each day in practice. Also I have no choice, but to improve when I am playing against the high level of competition that I am. Right now I am trying to slow down a bit and enjoy the game like I should be doing.
The theme behind this statement, and his whole post (scroll down to 11/7 on the blog to read it), is that it's a big transition from high school to college. And he's exactly right. The transition is strange enough for those of us who don't play sports - I can't imagine what it is like with all the added pressure of having to perform on the court. He's also a bit apprehensive about all the course work with college (who isn't?), so giving him a redshirt will give him the opportunity to spread out his classes and decrease some of the workload there.
I'm still surprised about the redshirt, because in the exhibition game I saw Harthun and he has a ton of promise. At this point I would say he has more raw talent than Witherill. The difference is that Harthun just needs to slow things down and play his game. I think it goes without saying that he will eventually settle in just fine at WSU and be a key contributor down the road. But for now, I think he'll get some benefit out of the redshirt. The reason I'm not a huge fan of the decision is that I think Witherill could benefit just as much from an extra year.
However, both Witherill and Harthun are excellent players and vital to the future of the program. A couple of years from now when they are both helping the Cougs to victory, we'll probably forget about the whole redshirt thing that's going on now. In addition, we'll probably be pretty happy to get five whole years out of Harthun.
Poor MVSU: Mississippi Valley State played #15 Arizona State pretty hard on Friday night, losing by only 16 points. They were also a tournament team last year. That's why I can't imagine anything more demoralizing than a round of applause from the ZZU CRU after Dwayne Harmason made the first bucket for the Devils with 8:28 left to play in the first half.
Klay Thompson, still a key to success. Thompson continues to have the green light to shoot when he's open. He scored eight last night on 3 of 7 shooting. Some of the shots were still suspect in their selection, but as the season progresses expect Klay to get smarter about his opportunities. Thompson is going to have to replace the scoring of Derrick Low if the Cougars are going to succeed this year, and he's off to a great start. I don't think it's a stretch to say that he may even lead the team in scoring this year.
The students aren't going to be happy: A lot of grumblings already out of the resized student section last night, especially with a baseline section that was mostly empty - a few splotches of paying customers here and there. Expect it to get worse when the later-arriving students are shut out of the Gonzaga game on Dec. 6th 10th.
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Dec. 6th
is Baylor, Dec. 10th is Gonzaga :)
by MLips on Nov 16, 2008 2:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How much more fun is this than the football recaps?
by philkid3 on Nov 16, 2008 3:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A couple observations
I was at the game as well, and I wanted to add a couple things:
1) Baynes looked damn good, dunking from at least six feet out a couple times, which I can’t remember him doing at all last year. How many times have we seen him power to the hoop, only to miss horribly on a layup if he was fouled? Now he will dunk that ball and then get the free throw. Also, he played a little better on D, not leaving his feet on pump fakes and keeping his arms straight up. Obviously we’ll have to temper our expectations in light of the opposition, but he looked like he’s ready to go this year!
2) Our offense is more balanced than last year. Forrest and Thompson can hit the midrange J’s, Casto and Baynes will work around the hoop, Kopravica can slash and now apparently make 3’s, Rochestie and Capers can both blow by defenders 1 on 1 and get to the hoop, and of course Rochestie, Thompson and Harmeling can still drain the long ball. I think we’ll be able to mix and match up a little better this year, which should compensate for the inevitable missteps on D by our Frosh.
I cannot contain my excitement for Baynes and Kopravica this year. They both played lights out, and are quicker and making better decisions. If Kopravica is as good on D as everyone says, he should start every game for sure. Could be my new X factor for the year. Actually, I think I said he was my X factor somewhere before the season. Perhaps I am psychic!
7 in a row, baby!
by johnnycougar on Nov 16, 2008 4:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
On Harthun/Witherall, I think the decision could mean a couple things for Witherall. Remember, Witherall was a very early verbal and essentially duplicated by Harthun. I think he will get some minutes this year keeping his redshirt available if it looks like he won’t get playing time for years to come.
I’m really excited about Koprivica. I have been big on him for the last couple of years and have been basically called a fool by some on other boards. Kop doesn’t have to be a star. He just needs to do the things he was doing when he went down with the knee injury in that Oregon game. He was just starting to come into his own and get comfortable. So I’m excited to see him back healthy. Yes, he might gun too much at times and needs to good shot selection. However, he also understands the game. Watch his play off the ball on both ends. It is great to hear his on-ball defense has iimproved but he always was great off the ball. He also has the ability to get easy buckets on the other end.
He’s gives WSU a piece they will need over this year and definitely next.
by BornCoug on Nov 16, 2008 4:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How easy was it to get seats at this game?
Hey, thanks again for the in depth coverage Grady and others…
I was out of town this weekend and regrettably did not get to go to the game.
However, I was wondering if those of you who did go could give me some insight on how early you showed up and what kind of seats you got as a result. Did you get into the cage, or the lower bowl? About how far up and how many hours before tip-off did you arrive?
by cfred on Nov 16, 2008 10:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I got there about 45 minutes early
And the best seats available were in the upper bowl, about midway up at center court. If you prefer lower seating (still upper bowl) but at more of an angle, those seats were available too. The so-called nosebleed seats in the corners of the stadium were pretty full about 20 minutes before. I have no idea how quickly the lower bowl filled up, I would say it is safe to guess that you’ll have to get there at least 1.5 hours early to make sure you get some sort of lower seat.
However, one benefit (so far) of fewer student seats down below is that more students up top stand for the whole game and get into the cheers and so forth.
7 in a row, baby!
by johnnycougar on Nov 17, 2008 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There about 1:45 before
Where I met some friends who got there a little bit before that. We ended up about fourth row back IIRC. Seating should be pretty reasonable for these first four games against small school opponents. Once Baylor comes to town… well, then all bets are off.
I also predict things won’t be as crazy for the next three, since a lot of people there were probably just excited for the season opener.
I’ve also learned that you just have to find the time to come that’s the best value for you in terms of seating/wait time. It’s different for everyone. And then adjust accordingly based on how hyped the opponent is. I will tell you that getting there ridiculously early (8+ hours) is only a good idea if you want to guarantee yourself front row.
by Grady. on Nov 17, 2008 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for filling me in.
I don’t know all the acronyms apparently. This is the only blog I frequently visit.
by cfred on Nov 18, 2008 7:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Feels good to watch some basketball!
Wow, what a great game. I was very happy to see the performance of Baynes and the entire team in general. The only thing that I was NOT happy about was that Glenn Johnson, our voice of the Cougars, did not announce the game. And when Glenn does not announce the game, the entire event just feels a bit wrong. Even the way the announcer said the traditional, “and as always, Go Cougs”, at the end of the game, felt foreign.
As for the seating, I arrived only a little over an hour before the game, and I was able to secure seats for 7 in section 31, around row P. Not too bad considering.
http://beasley.wsu.edu/seating/
by brlogan on Nov 17, 2008 4:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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