OPEN (Basketball!) GAME THREAD: MVSU Delta Devils @ WSU
Miss Valley St Delta Devils at Washington St. Cougars, Nov 13, 2009 7:20 PM PST
Probable Starters:
| WSU (*used redsirt) | Vitals | MVSU | Vitals | |||
| G | Reggie Moore (Fr.) | 6-1/178 | G | Tashan Newsome (So.) |
6-4/185 | |
| G | Klay Thompson (So.) | 6-6/200 | G | Kevin Burwell (Jr.) |
5-10/185 | |
| G | Marcus Capers (So.) | 6-4/180 | F | Jason Holmes (So.) |
6-9/225 | |
| F | Abe Lodwick (So.*) | 6-7/200 | F | Shannon Behling (Sr) |
6-7/200 | |
| F | DeAngelo Casto (So.) | 6-8/231 | F | Mark Holmes (Fr.) |
6-6/215 |
Basketball!! Basketball!! Basketball!!
The Cougs start the season off inviting the Mississippi Valley State University Delta Devils to beautiful Eastern Washington for a third year in a row. The last two trips have not been successful on the court for the Delta Devils, losing 71-26 and 76-25. Good news for them is that they are very likely to break thirty this time around.
So how worried should Cougar fans be? Well, MVSU posted a 7-25 record last season. They started 0-14 playing the likes of Arizona State, WSU, Kentucky, and more. The Delta Devils also lost their two most important players from last season. They played two exhibition games, beating Stillwell College and losing to national powerhouse Wesley College. This game should equate to nothing more than a second exhibition for Washington State. The best part is, this one counts!
The go-to guys for MVSU look to be forward Shannon Behling and sophomore guard Tashan Newsome. Behling posted some nice numbers in their last exhibition against Stillwell College, going for 20 points and 15 rebounds. Tashan Newsome led the team with 27 points on 8-11 shooting. That's efficiency! Even though Behling plays in the frontcourt, he likes to chuck the three. He led the team with 166 three-point attempts last year, making 34% of them.
While you should not be all that concerned over the outcome of this game, there are still reasons for excitement:
1. The official start to the Ken Bone era. Bone was not happy with the pace of the exhibition game, saying the mid-70s possession contest was not fast enough. Look for the Cougs to push the ball, and don't be suprised to see a WSU game in the (gasp!) mid-eighties or low-nineties.
2. Reggie Moore. High flying dunks, precision passes, penetration in the lane with the ability to kick out or finish! This guy is going to be something to watch this year.
3. WSU will be the team handing out the beat down. I know you all are tired of being on the receiving end of these types of games. You should feel good about a Cougar sporting event after this one.
4. Participating in the discussion thread with your favorite group of Cougar fans! What better way to spend a Friday night than in front of your computer talking to people you have never met?
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i head the game is delayed
because Miss. Valley is having trouble getting down from Spokane. I heard it on 1430 am in Pullman. No word on if they are there or if they are still on their way down.
Vote for Butch!
its been snowing all afternoon in spokane and pullman
about an inch here
Vote for Butch!
by spencer peaty on Nov 13, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
Silly snow.
We want you tomorrow, not tonight!
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
I can't think of a better way to spend my Friday night
But my wife can! (I’ll be popping in and out …)
One slight correction: Monday’s exhibition was played at 68 possessions. He wants it up in the mid-70s.
By the way
I know we’re young. I know this in my head. Still, it looks shocking when you look at that starting lineup …
I don't know why it's taken me so long to figure this out...
Either I don’t have any good radios in the house or 850 AM doesn’t come in very well here.
Doesn't 850 just suck most of the time?
I’ve never had good luck with them.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
Turnovers
Lets see if any adjustments have been made to keep them low today. When I looked at the stats from the exhibition game that bothered me a LOT.
Texas A&M CC?
They’re up 10 early on Oregon State
Oregon State?!?
But aren’t they coached by Barack Obama or something?
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
wow
They are down 30-18 to a community college. Wouldn’t that be like us being down to L.C.? I’m sure they will get things in order in the second half though.
It isn't a community college.
It is Texas A&M Corpus Christi
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
at the game
Thought of the day: who in their right mind thinks the huskies are the 14th best team in the country?
by Grady Clapp on Nov 13, 2009 7:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
They sure have a lot of question marks
I wouldn’t be shocked if they got beat tonight.
Really?
They might have question marks. But UW isn’t losing to Wright State. They are still pretty good and can outrun a team like Wright State.
Wright State
Is supposedly a threat to Butler in that conference. I don’t know much about them but I know they are typically pretty strong and have a nice squad this year.
I still would be shocked if they won in Seattle
Write State is better then I would expect UW to open with, but beating the Huskies in Seattle is a tough task even if they are young
For those of you listening to the radio, any timeline on when the game will start?
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Yeah, noticed that on the gametracker.
What better way to start the season than a Klay Thompson three?
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
Klay 3 and Capers jam
And a Casto block so far
first t.o.
Not sure how lodwick at the 4 is going to work in conf. play but so far so good. Moore is still awesome
by Grady Clapp on Nov 13, 2009 7:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Game tracker
Which tracker is everybody using?
I'm using the one from the WSU website.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
best gamecast i've ever watched...
…like the real thing
Thank goodness for offensive rebounds.
Wish someone outside of Klay could hit an outside jumper.
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Little worrisome that we aren't scoring
Shooting 29 percent isn’t good, doesn’t matter what kind of pace you play at.
Slow shooting start to the season
Hope this is not a sign of things to come this season. Now shooting less then 25%. Thank god this is just basically another exhibition game.
At least we're not down 23 to Texas A&M Corpus Christi
Like Oregon State is. Am I reading that right???
Yes, you are
shocking, my jaw dropped on that one
by spokanecougar on Nov 13, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone else think this team has a chance to be really good?
and i’m a professional half glass empty fan here
I do
I think this is a down year for the Pac-10. Been watching the UW game and I am not at all impressed with them. They have a bunch of thugs for guards lead by Overton but nothing to help them inside. They are letting Wright State hang around also….I know its only the first game, but still, they do not look like the 13th ranked team in the country.
by spokanecougar on Nov 13, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
isn't Wright State pretty decent usually?
i feel like i pick Duke or UNC to beat wright state in the first round every year.
Wright State is decent
And remember that UW lost to Portland last year. And we beat MVSU by 50.
It’s way too early to make any pronunciations about anything.
chance is a relative term
i think we’re a “post-season” team….but that very well could be CBI.
i think the top 3 spots in the pac10 are secure, but the abyss of the Oregons, the Arizonas and us could go any way….
i think we’re around 7.
Everyone has gotten in on the action too.
Yay for rebounding guards!!
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Capers
2 for 3 from the floor, 3 boards
I LOVE this guy
Yeah, he really needs to start hitting shots.
A pretty looking stroke can only take you so far.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
Did Casto just get rim-checked
Crazy looking missed dunk on the game tracker.
Klay needs to take more shots
He is the best shooter and player we have, he should not have the same amount of shots as Lodwick and Nik.
Agreed.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
Klay goes to the basket
And then Nik scores in transition from Moore….this is not last years cougs
It's 33-24
This is not last year’s Cougs.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
frustrating
We’re missing open shots.
They need to push tempo more as we are struggling in the halfcourt
- does everything for mvsu. Need to put capers on him
by Grady Clapp on Nov 13, 2009 8:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions
number 11 for mvsu
Good stretch here by wsu
Pushing tempo again
by Grady Clapp on Nov 13, 2009 8:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
What is going on with Oregon State?
Looks bad for our conference when one of the teams picked to finish in the top half is getting blown out to Texas A & M Corpus Christi.
i've been saying since last year
princeton offense + 2-3 zone = crappy team.
Triple Double
I’ve got a feeling we’ll see a triple double out of Reggie Moore this year. Could get one this game unless he sits the last 10 minutes…
Looks like Nik is having a nice game
I really, really want him to have a good year. I’m not going to get too excited, though. I remember him having a nice start to last season too.
43 points at half
shooting only 2-12 from 3 and 40% overall….
Is it just me or.....
Does Klay seem like he is the same player as last year, afraid to drive to the rim and then will vanish as points in the game. Unlike last year, he cannot do that this year, we dont have another scorer to really step up yet for him when he takes a break. Don’t get me wrong, I love Klay, but he just seems a little to timid and to soft, he needs someone to light a fire under his butt.
If Klay isn't going to the basket against these guys, that is worrisome.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know, since I'm not watching it
Probably a good question for Grady. However, I’d caution against reading too much into one half of the first game …
Wasn't as high on them as some
I wouldn’t have expected a blowout against TAMCC or whoever they are playing.
I still think they will have a good year
They lost so many close games last year then figured it out towards the end. They reminded me a lot of the Cougs when Low and Weaver were Sophs. That said, I don’t think we would have lost to TAMCC by 25 that next year…
People read WAAAAAY too much into these early games
Remember how we felt about after beating Mississippi State to go 6-0?
And I believe UW lost some early games last year
They turned out to have a decent season, if memory serves.
half thoughts
It is weird but we look more at home running. Oddly enough it was putting nik back into the game that sparked us.
Encouraging to be up 17 even when mvsu is shooting ok and we are not
Bone is tinkering a lot with lineups. I didn’t like how much klay and casto sat.
Enquist holding his own but I’d still like to see more motum. Abe and harthun just need to hit shots. Thames looks good. Team as a whole started great on d but has slacked since. Again I don’t know why capers isn’t on 11 since his only move is a step back three.
by Grady Clapp on Nov 13, 2009 8:22 PM PST via mobile reply actions
We are actually shooting better than MVSU.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure Klay got a charged called on him last year
Shouldn’t be excited about an offensive foul on my team…and yet I kind of am.
UW up 8 with 6 minutes to go against Wright State
Wright State is playing without 2 starters and maybe getting a bitter homered by the refs. Romar is playing a lot of people though.
It would make my night
if UW lost tonight.
by spokanecougar on Nov 13, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Roster
So just seeing how has played (granted might change with late game subs) looks like Steven Bjornstad and Anthony Brown are going to be redshirted? Anyone know if this is true or not?
Also, is Watson still hurt, how come he isn’t playing?
It looks like they will redshirt.
I think they both only got a few minutes in the scrimmage so that was also a sign.
I haven’t heard about Watson but I’m sure he would play if he wasn’t still hurt. Seems like we have been waiting forever to see him play.
we're only up 20...
i don’t know if you can read “redshirt” from this game….
bjornstad apparently not redshirting
not a huge surprise, we’ll need all big men to play
Nevermind it is nine.
Still good though.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
Five Turnovers for Klay
I don’t like that number.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
What's up with Motum?
Saw a comment Bone couldn’t believe how nervous he played in the scrimmage. Now he’s 0-3 from the stripe. Sounds like the nerves might be an issue.
Bjorstand in
so much for a redshirt. Interesting
I thought for sure he would redshirt
Bit of a surprise, but we need big bodies down low so also
by spokanecougar on Nov 13, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
That's probably why.
Bone probably figures he will have to use him at some point anyway.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
bone might be of the ilk
that nobody redshirts.
not many college coaches redshirt more than one player, if that.
The only reason I would want him to redshirt guys is to even out the classes.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Much better 2nd half
Looks like they got the nerves out of the way in the first half, this could be a very exciting team this year.
on record
I do not like the call to burn bjornstads redshirt. He just about punched a guy in the back in post defense. Not ready
by Grady Clapp on Nov 13, 2009 9:05 PM PST via mobile reply actions
If Casto ever gets in foul trouble we may have to use him.
So might as well get him some pt i guess.
As Dancing Football mentioned...........
Bone figures we will have to burn it at some point this year, he needs to get some experience under him before the Pac-10 starts.
I am a bit surprised he is playing but not at all against it, we are very thin up front and need all the help we can get.
by spokanecougar on Nov 13, 2009 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
there goes brown
Guess bone hates redshirts.
Facepalm
by Grady Clapp on Nov 13, 2009 9:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions
well, another way of looking at it....
are we REALLY that worried about what Anthony Brown can do in 2013?
Redshirts
I’m guess I’m not totally clear on the redshirt rule in hoops. If a guy plays 1 minute his redshirt is gone? I thought there was a small amount of flexibility there early in the year.
Only for medical redshirts I believe.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 13, 2009 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
I think they changed that rule
I think you could play the first 5 or 6 games. Now if you play at all the redshirt is gone unless a season ending injury takes place.
Yes
only time they make an exception if someone has played is if he suffered a injury without playing a lot of minutes.
Robert Scare at Gonzaga is a good example of this, he played in like 5 games last year before getting hurt and he was given a redshirt
by spokanecougar on Nov 13, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
I think there is a minutes or games threshhold
I was looking at some other sites just now and it appears you can play a bit and still redshirt. Not clear on what the rule is but I don’t think these guys playing tonight really means anything.
88 points even with missed open shots
Do not miss bennett ball right now
by Grady Clapp on Nov 13, 2009 9:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions
indeed!
we’re getting chalupas some time this year….
chalupas
is an nba reference for scoring 100 points, fwiw….
Could have had 100...
…if we did not miss so many shots in the first half
by spokanecougar on Nov 13, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
UW wins 74 to 69
Wright State wouldn’t go away. First game stuff although the UW is going to miss Brockman more than they would like to think.
Still trying to find our interior identity
MBA and Gant are so-so. We might not have a go to guy down low until Breshers gets into shape.
I think Wright State has the potential to be a really good team though, and if they were at full strength they may well have beaten us.
I can't wait for Monday
to get a look at this team.
As a rival
The thought of Klay Thompson getting to the line on a consistent basis is terrifying to me.
Which is about as high a complement as you get.
Well...
The fact Isaiah Thomas put up 30 scares me.
Which is about as high a complement as you get.
by Brian Floyd on Nov 13, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
IT has gotten his fair share of compliments on this site.
We basically had IT week earlier this year.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 14, 2009 7:09 AM PST up reply actions
Redshirts
Bone said Bjornstad will not redshirt because of what was mentioned above (depth). Casto has his knee and who knows what Watson is up to.

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