Regarding Redshirts
Put me on record as a fan of redshirts. Any time you can give a collegiate athlete - who only has four precious years of eligibility - an extra year on campus, it is a positive. They have an extra year to develop, they don't have to take an excessive course load to graduate (especially if they were to change majors), and they get another year of the college experience. In sports it is especially beneficial, as there is a big difference between a 23 year old and an 18 year old. Medical redshirts are particularly nice, loosening the evil grip of the NCAA's arcane eligibility rules and giving players like Kevin Kooyman another chance.
So when do you burn a redshirt, and when do you avoid it? My feeling is if the player has an opportunity to make an impact this year, you burn it. Jeff Tuel, Reggie Moore, Xavier Thames, these are all guys that make the team better just by their presence on the court. One could argue they'd be even more valuable with another year of experience, but the majority of coaches find that "play 'em while you have 'em" is a good rule, especially with the number of players going pro early.
Still, I can't understand why players who would only see the floor in limited minutes - and, yes, I'm talking about Steven Bjornstad and Anthony Brown - aren't being redshirted. With Bjornstad it may be that we will actually need him. Bone's playing around with lineups so far this season tells me he's not set on a rotation and is even less clear on who else is going to be a fixture in the frontcourt with Casto. Motum, Lodwick, Watson, Koprivica... all are good options, but are all undersized at that position either because they are thin (Motum, Lodwick, Watson) or short (Koprivica).
With Brown, there's even more of a question mark. The depth at guard has been well documented, and with walk-on John Allen playing well, and Faisel Aden committing to play for the Cougs next year, it doesn't make sense to me that Brown's redshirt would be burnt. Some wonder if it's a situation similar to Nick Witherill, where there's so many players in line ahead of him for playing time that he can play this year, since he'll ultimately transfer anyway and burn a redshirt during the one year waiting period (although Witherill changed divisions so no need to sit out). We don't know if that's the case. No one outside of Ken Bone and his staff really knows.
In the meantime, I like Anthony Brown as a player and hope he stays at WSU. Most Pac-10 players aren't going to see significant playing time until they are upperclassmen, unless they are on a particularly young team or a particularly weak team. However, if Brown doesn't have a future in the rotation here, he probably should transfer. Since, again, you only have four precious years and as an athlete you have to make the most of them. Few go on to play in the NBA.
Still, it would be nice if Ken Bone and Paul Wulff didn't mortgage the future in the name of the present. I get that both teams are young. Rebuilding (one more than the other). Five years is better than four, especially at a school where you have to look harder for talent and get the most out of your players that you can. Cougar coaches need to understand that.
I hope they do.
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I tend to like redshirts as well
But, they are not used as much in basketball like they are used in football. Regarding Bjornstad playing, this is what Coach Bone said about the situation, “DeAngelo has the bad knee, James Watson’s been out 250 days since he’s arrived here [because of injury], and Charlie Enquist is not very experienced,” said Bone. “We feel there might come a time when we need Steve Bjornstad to help us out.”
What I am reading into that statement is that Watson is not ready to play Pac 10 ball yet and it is a long season, so they will use Bjornstad this year, even if it is minimal.
Regarding Brown, I have no idea. The Witherall situation come to mind as you wrote, but I don’t have enough information to draw any conclusion.
by Coug1990 on Nov 14, 2009 10:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
seeing red?
I agree that the red shirt is an ideal tool for building a kids confidence and getting them acclimated, and as evidenced by this year’s oh so young and not so strong true freshmen, the chance to hit the iron and bulk up. Circumstance has torpedoed Wulff ultimate lans to red shirt nearly all frosh… a plan I hope he survives long enough to implement. In football it is vital to use the RS to build up the recruit’s girth. He has “saved” a good % of this years freshman crew. I think it is less so for hoops, but in the case of Brown I agree. Not sure what the plan is in playing him. Unless Bone is plotting a 12 man rotation so he can just press at 3/4 in many games and not worry about fouls. My guess with Bjorn is that Bone knows he needs to use those ten fouls in the paint from Enquist and Bjorn- the only height in sight outside of Casto. The lack of bulk will necessitate fouls sending the opposition bigs to the line in lieu of lay ups and put backs. Especially with the higher tempo… which will give the foe a lot more possessions that the previous 5 years of Coug hoops. I like using Bjorn and Enquist and having tree’s in the middle of the paint. If the presence of one of them forces the shooter to the off side- that is Casto country, also known as block city. Wulff has expressed a desire to use the red shirt to his advantage… maybe Bone is going with baptism by fire. Go Cougs
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 14, 2009 10:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Neither of these decisions is all that surprising
Bjornstad is going to have to play out of necessity at some point. Might as well get him some action.
And while Brown seems curious, it’s not that crazy. I’m working on a post for next week looking at how Bone generally distributes his minutes, but here’s the short of it: He plays lots of guys. Lots. So, if a guard or two goes down this season for even a short time, Brown will be in the rotation, if only for 8-10 minutes a night. While that doesn’t seem like “needed” to the rest of us, he’ll likely be “needed” according to Bone’s philosophy.
In an ideal world? Yeah, redshirts are nice. But I’ve got a hunch Bone’s also betting on his ability to get even better players in here over the next couple of years, making the point moot anyway. As someone pointed out, basketball is a little different beast than football in that respect.
by Jeff Nusser on Nov 14, 2009 11:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and one other thing
Is anyone else getting the distinct impression that Watson might be that guy headed out the door? I mean, 250(!) practices? That’s just insanity.
by Jeff Nusser on Nov 14, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
That’s a shame. He may just be one of those guys that can’t keep from getting injured.
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by Dancing Football on Nov 14, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am guessing that "250" was a number that Bone just said
to signify that Watson has missed out on a lot of time. I think Nuss makes a good point that in his mind, Bone thinks he can recruit a higher quality player than what is generally on the roster, so he thinks why keep a player on the roster when he can replace him with a player that better fits his sytem.
by Coug1990 on Nov 14, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Watson
The word is the kid has unreal hops and is a great shot blocker when healthy. I envisioned he and Casto sending the pumpkin OUT… if he is indeed a big leaper and it is his back that is the problem, he may be ticketed for exit. That is a bad combo, weak back big hops…
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 14, 2009 11:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Also
Has anyone else thought about how awesome it would be to have Thomas Abercrombie on this team? Dang.
by Jeff Nusser on Nov 14, 2009 11:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes I have.
He is super athletic, ran the floor well, decent outside shot.
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by Dancing Football on Nov 14, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And, yes, I understand there is a player who's only here because his scholarship was available
But he was a fantastic athlete, tailor made for running. He just was never going to fit in Bennett’s system.
by Jeff Nusser on Nov 14, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not all that concerned
about the redshirts in Bball. For the big fellas, the physical maturity would be nice, and for a some guys you’ll see they’ve got some technique to pick up, where a redshirt might make a big difference. But it wasn’t all that long ago players were going straight from HS to the NBA. Even bigs. The physical aspect of the game just doesn’t make as much of a difference in basketball as in football.
I think Wulff, this year in particular, has tried to hit a balance between using guys who’ll help right away, and redshirting. For example, keeping Tuel off the field the first few games hoping Marshall or Kevin would step up and take over the team, but ultimately burning the shirt when neither did. Using Long and Simone but keeping Washington and Carpenter out, who could clearly also help this year. Same with Pu’u-Robinson and Clayton on the D-line. I think you could make an argument either way, on Washington and Carpenter, but definitely the right decision on P-R and Clayton, due to the physical maturity thing. I’m actually amazed Long hasn’t had more issues being so young.
by TiltingRight on Nov 14, 2009 12:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The one thing about the bball situation
that has me wondering is the separation between classes. Not redshirting anyone leaves none, and then picking up the JC guy (assuming he signs his LOI), means we’re adding yet another junior next season— the 6th scholarship in that class, if I recall correctly.
by TiltingRight on Nov 14, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That is my thought on the situation as well.
We won’t be able to build a program that consistently challenges for the tournament if we are graduating half the team every four years.
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by Dancing Football on Nov 14, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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