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PLAYER PROFILE: Michael Harthun


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You wouldn't think a young player with a career high of three points in a game would have the opportunity to make an impact this season. Mike Harthun does.

Our two Oregonian sophomores, in fact, stand to benefit the most out of anyone from the transition to Ken Bone and the increased reliance on the three-point shot. One is Abe Lodwick, whom I previewed earlier, and the other Harthun, who made almost half of his field goal attempts from behind the arc last winter.

It's debatable whether or not Tony Bennett should have burnt Harthun's redshirt. He only appeared in 14 of the team's games in 2008-09, and only took 18 shot attempts the entire season. Oddly enough, his most prominent appearance came in the Cougars' final game of the season against Saint Mary's, where he logged fourteen minutes. He went 1-for-2 from three-point range and provided a little bit of a spark off the bench.

Harthun's transition to college ball has been a little rougher than the other freshmen from Tony Bennett's final year. He was in the dog house early, earning a three-game suspension for a "violation of team rules". That violation was almost undoubtedly his brush with the law for suspected marijuana possession. Although no formal citation or charges were ever filed, the incident was a setback for both his playing time and development, and it showed as Harthun lurked in the shadows up until the final game.

Nevertheless, there's a lot of potential in Harthun, and all he really has to do is complete that adjustment to the next level. He was already a phenomenal prospect in high school - more impressive than a comparable Oregon player currently starting at Oregon: Garrett Sim. He was part of the South Medford team that defeated Kevin Love's Lake Oswego team for the Oregon 6A championship. Harthun averaged 22.7 points and 5.4 assists per game his senior season, and was rated a Top 100 prospect by espn.com. There was a lot of hype surrounding Harthun, and with Bone at the helm, we may begin to see the 6'3" guard live up to it.

Best Case Scenario: Harthun emerges as a solid role player at guard, with the ability to knock down shots, pass the ball, and take pressure off freshman guards Xavier Thames and Reggie Moore. Mike scores in the five to ten point per game range, and possibly earns a start or two depending on the opposition. He rains threes in Bone's system, giving us a streaky shooter off the bench in the mold of a Josh Akognon.

Worst Case Scenario: Like so many Cougar sophomores, the worst case scenario is a repeat of last year statistically. If Harthun can't continue that adjustment to the speed and skill of the college game, his minutes will suffer and he'll find himself sitting on the pine behind Moore, Thames, Capers, Lodwick and Koprivica.

Likely Scenario: I could honestly see either of the above scenarios playing out for Harthun, who has the skill to be an impact player for WSU in stretches, but also the weaknesses that could keep him on the bench for extended period of time. My belief is that we see the Harthun from the Saint Mary's game: about 15 minutes a night, some helpful threes, improved defense and a few surprise drives to the basket. He looks smaller than he actually is at 6'3" - part of that is due to the fact we've recruited so many tall guards and forwards in the past couple seasons. Harthun has surprising quickness that will almost certainly be an aid in a more up-tempo system. Look for Harthun to make a name for himself this season, and maybe crack the starting lineup if the other young guards struggle.

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How much playing time will Harthun get in 2009-10?
Less than 5 minutes
4 votes
5-10 minutes
36 votes
10-20 minutes
72 votes
20 or more minutes
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I honestly think Harthun might be the key to this season

I know it sounds weird, but remember where my source said he thought we were a guard short? Harthun could be that guard. And if he really steps up his play and becomes the player we thought we were getting, this becomes a dangerous offensive team — thin frontcourt be darned.

by Nuss on Nov 9, 2009 6:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

in a way i think youre right

Harthun in his limited minutes was a black hole offensively. He rarely passed the ball and the shots he took weren’t flowing in the offense. I’d have to through my plus/minus charts from last year, but you could set your watch to the opponents going on a run when he checked in. It happened enough times that it definitely wasn’t a coincidence. (I’ll concede that I thought he played well against St. Mary’s)

If his shots fall, and they’re within the course of the offense, it’ll be the difference between us finishing 8th or 9th and us fighting for an NIT spot. I just seem to think its too big of an “if”.

by BigWood on Nov 9, 2009 2:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

?

So you are saying you think we will be the second worst team in the conference, maybe the 3rd worst unless Mike Harthun knocks down shots then we jump to 6th or 7th? I guess that is a fun way to watch the season-predict the worst possible finish so no matter what your happy or right.

I will agree with you I think if Mike can play well and knock down shots it helps are chances of finishing a spot or two higher…but what if Reggie Moore is the second coming of IT at UW? Or what if Capers has a huge break through along with the huge jumps Klay and Casto seem to be ready to make combined with Brock Motum playing like a stud. What if Bone coaches the hell out of these guys and they are a better fit for this style of ball vs. last year?

I guess it just gets disapointing to get on here and see our own fans making case after case why they are pretty sure the cougs will finish 8th or 9th in conference. No one knows what is going to happen with this team, but there are just as many reasons why we can finish in the top 4 as you can make for us to finish in the bottom 2.

by donkeyjon12 on Nov 9, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love your optimism

Even if I don’t share it. Those are a lot of “ifs” that have to go right to get into the top half of the conference …

But thank God we can even have this conversation about our team in the first place.

by Nuss on Nov 9, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

im not being negative

I think this is going to be an entertaining team regardless of its record and I don’t think by saying they’ll finish 8th is being “down” on the team. Its a rebuilding year. Other than stanford and maybe usc, I don’t know if we’re better on paper than anyone else (you can make a case for the oregons and I won’t argue)

Losing Taylor, Aron, and Forrest, coupled with not really playing the defensive scheme we had last year is really going to unmask some of the offensive deficiencies we have. We need another shooter. If we don’t have one, that’s the difference between 5th and 9th.

I think expecting to finish in the top 4 is probably setting the bar way too high, but be my guest. I don’t fault you for it at all.

by BigWood on Nov 9, 2009 3:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Top 4

I could see us finishing in the top 4 just as easily as the bottom 2. As someone pointed out, young teams are inconsistent and streaky, and who knows what kind of run we go on. I believe there was a certain team a couple years ago that was supposed to finish 10 and ended up 2nd…

by displacedcoug on Nov 9, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Very True

But that team wasn’t young. Starting two junior guards, and redshirt sophomore that had won Freshman of the year in another conference, and a bigger, deeper frontcourt with upperclassman might have had something to do with our winning.

We could go on a run, but I don’t see it being long enough to get us in the top four. A run for us will be like the end of the Pac 10 season, with wins in Arizona and UCLA to get us back into the NCAA talk and into the NIT.

by 02Coug on Nov 9, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That team was "supposed" to finish tenth according to the media poll.

But anyone around the program knew they weren’t that bad. That team was also far from young. Derrick Low, Kyle Weaver, and Robbie Cowgill were all juniors who had played significant minute in the same system. Taylor and Daven were redshirt sophomores. Nik was the only freshman that got significant minutes. There is no comparison between that team and this team.

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by Dancing Football on Nov 9, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Way to crush my hope.

You crapped on my heart!!

by displacedcoug on Nov 9, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure what to think of Harthun

This is make or break year for him in the program. If he doesn’t show that he can contribute, his scholarship is one that I can see opening up and used for another player. Especially since he still has a redshirt year left and can easily transfer.

Hopefully, he can step up. I expect him to be a 10-15 minute a night player.

by Coug1990 on Nov 9, 2009 9:25 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That may be true...

but he hardly got a fair shot at solid playing time last year. Most of the time he did get was at the end of games with the other reserves and it’s hard to judge by that. Once he gets a little more game time experience and builds up some confidence I bet he will start stroking that 3 point shot. I thought he looked pretty good in the St. Mary’s game so hopefully that carry’s over to this year.

On another note, does anyone know if the exhibition game will be on the radio?

by 907coug on Nov 9, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The question is

whether his lack of playing time caused his less than mediocre play or did his mediocre play cause his lack of playing time.

Obviously, Bennett thought the latter.

by Coug1990 on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bennett was notorious for putting players in the doghouse and keeping them there.

Ivory Clark was a prime example.

While I would not be surprised if Harthun was simply not ready to play last year (he looked lost at times), I also would not be surprised if Tony limited his play because of his legal problems or “attitude.”

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by Dancing Football on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe Bennett wanted to redshirt Harthun

Harthun wanted to play. He didn’t really do anything to show he was ready to play last year although I agree the St. Mary’s game was promising.

I don’t know if I would use Clark as an example of being in Bennett’s doghouse but that’s just me. Clark was a great asset when he was willing to play as a team.

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Even after his early season suspension...

Harthun didn’t see many minutes in our easy OCC games so I agree he was probably in the doghouse and had to earn back TB’s trust in practice, which isn’t a bad thing. Just by the time that happened the team was getting into tough OOC games and then the Pac-10 schedule where we needed our best line ups out at all times. I just don’t think that gave Bennett the confidence to throw Harthun out there with the very limited in game experience he had. Harthun is probably one of the best shooters on the team after Klay. We had a whole lot of 7+ minute scoring droughts last year where another good shooter really could have helped. I’m hoping he gets 15 minutes a game and can average about 9 points a game with a few 12-15 point outings mixed in.

by 907coug on Nov 9, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

According to Cougfan

WSU got a commitment from a 2nd team all american JC guard from Florida

by Coug1990 on Nov 9, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Faisel Aden

Shooting guard originally from Texas

by cougfan on Nov 9, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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