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OPEN HOOPS GAME THREAD: LCSC at WSU

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Basketball is finally here! Well, sort of. The Cougs do tip off the public portion of their basketball season at 7 p.m. PST with an exhibition against Lewis-Clark State College at Beasley Coliseum.

The catch? It's not on TV or radio, so unless you're in Pullman, you've got no shot to follow this game.

HOWEVER! We're going to have our intrepid reporter, Grady, liveblogging from the scene (although probably a bit belatedly, since he doesn't get off work until 7 p.m.) through the comments section of this post. And if there are any other CougCenter community members at the game, we'd love for you to chime in with your observations as well. (If you didn't know, you can find CougCenter on your mobile browser at http://mobile.cougcenter.com.)

Also, feel free to use this as your opening night of general college basketball thread, too. I'm watching North Carolina whip Florida International, and will be partaking of some other games as well. You can find most of them at channelsurfing.net if you don't get ESPNU from your provider.

UPDATE: You can follow the game via GameTracker. Thanks to the originally named GoCougs!

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Albany at Syracuse.

Cupcakes are delicious, but who cares it is COLLEGE FREAKING BASKETBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Dancing Football on Nov 9, 2009 6:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Plus Cal is next.

I’m excited to watch Jerome Randle and mini-Lebron.

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by Dancing Football on Nov 9, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

For anyone going to be at the game:

If you could, please let us know the starting line up at least. I’m very curious.

by DrayCox on Nov 9, 2009 6:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I am heading over there right now

I will post a little on whats going on, just don’t expect any high quality analysis.

Vote for Butch!

by spencer peaty on Nov 9, 2009 6:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Anything you can post here would be much appreciated since there is no other way to hear anything about this game.

by DrayCox on Nov 9, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

capers and lodwick starting

and bad cell service

Vote for Butch!

by spencer peaty on Nov 9, 2009 7:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I thought we'd go four small and one big

But I was thinking Nik. Wonder if Abe is actually going to be a starter or if they just want to get him more minutes.

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

13-0

Looks like we’re still playing some D and Casto is all over the glass.

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 7:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

13-0

klay with 5, lodwick, harthun hit 3s

Vote for Butch!

by spencer peaty on Nov 9, 2009 7:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Capers has 2 steals

Lodwick has a 3 and a block.
Casto has 5 board (1 on Off., 4 on Def.)
15 to play in the first half.

by GoCougs on Nov 9, 2009 7:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nik and Thames

Casto gets another board.

by GoCougs on Nov 9, 2009 7:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Casto Goes Out

And we immediately give up 2 offensive boards

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 7:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Random Question

Anybody know Bone’s philosophy on offensive rebounding? I’m guessing with a different stance on defense we’ll probably be sending more guys to the offensive glass. I’d like to think Capers can do some damage there.

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 7:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Watson

Has Watson played yet?

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 7:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Grippi said Watson not playing tonight

Hit his head in practice.

http://wsufoundation.wsu.edu/giving/enteramount.asp?Fund=Martin%20Stadium%20Project

by selahcoug on Nov 9, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Any thoughts on Faisel Aden?

Bone picks up a 6-4 shooting guard out of a Florida JC. He can score and I guess had offers from Oklahoma State and Mississippi State.

Interesting addition.

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, where's the schollie coming from?

http://wsufoundation.wsu.edu/giving/enteramount.asp?Fund=Martin%20Stadium%20Project

by selahcoug on Nov 9, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Next year

As long as he gets his AA of course.

Someone is on the way out and I hope it isn’t Klay Thompson!

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe someone pulls a Rochestie

And gives up a Schollie for the new guy.

Not sure about a transfer, seems to me that we need to balance the classes.

by 02Coug on Nov 9, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Casto gets a really cool looking block

As the red avatar jumps really high over the black avatar on the gametracker… Fantastic.

by GoCougs on Nov 9, 2009 7:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We've given up eight offensive rebounds

THAT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED UNDER BENNETT!!!

CougCenter

by Nuss on Nov 9, 2009 7:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Having Baynes

didn’t hurt us in that area either.

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

By game tracker

seems like the offense flows a lot better with Moore in there. He has quite a few assists too.

http://wsufoundation.wsu.edu/giving/enteramount.asp?Fund=Martin%20Stadium%20Project

by selahcoug on Nov 9, 2009 7:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Harthun heating up.

http://wsufoundation.wsu.edu/giving/enteramount.asp?Fund=Martin%20Stadium%20Project

by selahcoug on Nov 9, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thames

Has at least two turnovers that have cost us 4 points.

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Capers

Surprised he hasn’t scored yet.

by DrayCox on Nov 9, 2009 7:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

beautiful fast break

Moore to thames.

Maybe I underhyped harthun? Looks great

by Grady. on Nov 9, 2009 7:41 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Underhyped Harthun?

That would be amazing.

by DrayCox on Nov 9, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Harthun can play

I think he is being undehyped. The kid can play – wasn’t he player of the game in the state final game with Love and Singler?

Bone’s style of play suits him much better. In the poll I voted him to get 20+ minutes per night.

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

I think everyone is going to play.

CougCenter

by Nuss on Nov 9, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Atta boy Charlie

Five minutes, two fouls, two turnovers, zero points, zero rebounds.

CougCenter

by Nuss on Nov 9, 2009 7:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He had to show you

With a board and put back. Or that’s what it looked like on gametracker.

by 02Coug on Nov 9, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Enquist

He may foul out.

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not surprised

but it may even out in the second half. Good to see Harthun having a nice game…well, see on game tracker.

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Moore with 4 assists

Only two shot attempts.

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 7:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This just it.

Klay Thompson is still good.

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by Dancing Football on Nov 9, 2009 7:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Game Tracker...

Just made it look like Klay hit about a 35 footer.

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 7:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I was going to mention that. Means the rest of hte team is 1-4. Not as good.

by 02Coug on Nov 9, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LCSX 0-10 from 3

Maybe they are extending the defense a bit?

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nine turnovers.

Yeesh. Looks likes around a sixty possession game.

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by Dancing Football on Nov 9, 2009 7:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Oops.

Maybe closer to eighty, forgot to add in turnovers.

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by Dancing Football on Nov 9, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Brock Motum sure isn't having a good game

Hopefully this will turn around in future games. I had him pegged as a major impact player right away.

by DrayCox on Nov 9, 2009 7:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He will get there

Game 1. Well, we need him to get there!

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Quality Big Men

I could be wrong, but this seems to be a good year for us to have that problem, at least speaking of the Pac10. Seems a lot of teams will be going with a 4 guard look.

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

For in building analysis. Only at CougCenter.

CougCenter

by Nuss on Nov 9, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How is Motum looking?

From the stats it seems like he is not doing well, but do you have any additional thoughts from seeing him in person?

by DrayCox on Nov 9, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haven't seen enough yet

He is skinnier than I thought and may be one of those bennett forwards that has more of a guard skillset

by Grady. on Nov 9, 2009 8:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Capers

Just missed two free throws. Yikes…

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Just got back from the game

Had to leave early because I have an intramural football game at 9. But here are a few observations.
1. Casto will rack up the stats this year. He had tons of looks, some designed plays to him, and he sure rebounded and blocked shots well. He looks thicker too. (he won the tip)
2. Klay slashed to the hoop several times, looked better than last year. He drew contact twice, and was on fire from 3.
3. Thames and Moore both handled the ball well, and they looked like good fits for the up tempo offense. Thames made some good moves to the hoop but didn’t finish well.
4. Harthun and Lodwick both shot the ball well, but didn’t do much else.
5. Motum looked uncomfortable the whole time, he has some adjusting to do. He is also very thin.
6. Overall we took some chances pushing the ball and there were only a coupe of DOH! moments (bad passes, missed Offensive rebounds). We did not look like we are ready to run with the pac-10 though (no surprise, its early).

Vote for Butch!

by spencer peaty on Nov 9, 2009 8:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with all of your observations except #4

I was really impressed with the poise of both Harthun and Lodwick. I feel like they are completely different players under the Bone system. They shot well, but they also played defense well and showed some leadership qualities in their decision making and ball handling. I hate to always compare the new players to the ‘Godfathers’ of the decade, but Harthun really reminded me of Low (minus the constant running around the court to draw opponents off the screen) and Lodwick reminded me of Harmeling (when he still had his shot).

by JimtheCoug on Nov 9, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

reggie moore is killing it

Fast break dunk and fast break alleyoop to casto

by Grady. on Nov 9, 2009 8:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

LCSC vs. Oregon

Anybody read an analysis on that game? I know Oregon won by 15, but just for a fun comparison I’m curious if it was a complete blowout like this is…

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

They Played Lewis and Clark from Oregon

It is a different school, pretty sure it is Division III.

CougCenter WSU's second main blog

by Dancing Football on Nov 9, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

So much for that

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 8:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

oops

Thought I hit reply

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We'll see a lot more layups by opponents...

this season.

Just hope that our layup numbers > opponent layup numbers.

by westsidecougar1 on Nov 9, 2009 8:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like Capers

is still clankin’ bricks. 0-3

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 8:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Capers

a work in progress. If he could only get to the rim and finish the missed jumpers wouldn’t bother me so much. I don’t think you can have a zero at guard playing very much as much as I like him.

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear what you are saying, but Capers may be...

too valuable with his rebounding and defense to leave him on the bench very much.

Clearly though, Bone wants guys on the floor who can score points…from all five guys.

Defensive ability will just be a bonus.

by westsidecougar1 on Nov 9, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

defense

System wise feels very similar to last year. Against a team like lcsc that can’t shoot, it works like a charm

by Grady. on Nov 9, 2009 8:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

14 pts,11 boards for Casto.

Numbers are prettier when there are more possessions.

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by Dancing Football on Nov 9, 2009 8:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

bad night for capers

Great night for moore, esp. passing. Taylor who?

by Grady. on Nov 9, 2009 8:36 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Bad Night?

He only scored two but he only had 1 TO, 8 Reb, 2 ast, 2 Steals. That is not a bad night by any means. He didn’t directly contribute points wise, but he excels in a lot of other areas.

by MattPD on Nov 9, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering

They always seem to be in the Tournament.

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hope he is alright

Hopefully not a concussion. He’s had a tough time w/ injuries of different sorts.

by BornCoug on Nov 9, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't that happen a few weeks ago?

Or is this a second “hit his head” incident?

by mmevans15 on Nov 9, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure.

Grippi’s post today just said he was sitting out after “banging his head in practice.”

CougCenter WSU's second main blog

by Dancing Football on Nov 9, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Even though this win was expected

Can I just say how good it feels to see a WSU team actually dominate again? Football season has been draining and depressing me.

by DrayCox on Nov 9, 2009 8:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Watching ESPNU's mini-preview of the Pac 10.

The guy who isn’t Andy Katz thinks UCLA should be picked under UO, OSU, and UA. He also said the NW is relevant again! (When did we go away?) But of course, he only mentioned the Oregon schools and UW.

Katz did say his players to watch are Klay Thompson and Nic Wise.

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by Dancing Football on Nov 9, 2009 9:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm wondering if the Watson concussion issue is bigger than we thought

I still think Enquist loses his scholarship. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a transfer that doesn’t fit with the up tempo.

by cougfan on Nov 9, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Enquist wouldn't be a surprise

But that’s still only two open spots. That means they’re counting on a third if they’re still actively looking for one more guy. Tough to speculate at this point.

CougCenter

by Nuss on Nov 9, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Watson head injury reminds me of Sauls

Granted Sauls had another underlying issue but if he’s still not practice now, seems like it was pretty serious. Until we actually do go out and grab a third commit, who knows, though

by cougfan on Nov 9, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind

Grippi says he took an elbow from Casto in practice and has another concussion.

by cougfan on Nov 9, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just looking at the scholarship players today...

I’m thinking Anthony Brown might try transfering? He doesn’t look like a Bone recruit, but he is a freshman so it is hard to tell.

by james_WSU on Nov 9, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

...

Maybe Brown might become a walk-on? He didn’t really come across as an athletic guard capable of going full court, but he is a freshman so who knows. Enquist is the obvious first to lose scholarship and who knows about Watson.

by james_WSU on Nov 9, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Congrats on the win fellas. Way to TCOB.

Any body else watching the Cal game? Murray State’s making a late push.

UWDawgPound

by thecassino on Nov 9, 2009 9:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The refs are giving them a hand.

They’ve been to the line each of the last, what, 4 times down the floor? And that Randle dribble off the foot was a questionable call at best.

UWDawgPound

by thecassino on Nov 9, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you read those excerpts of Tim Donaghy's book on Deadspin?

I’m certain that every time questionable calls keep the game close I’m going to start thinking about the spread…

by johnnycougar on Nov 9, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, no I didn't see that. Used to read Deadspin a lot, but haven't in a long time.

Not sure what the spread was for this game, but I’m guessing Murray State covered.

UWDawgPound

by thecassino on Nov 9, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's worth a read

If even half of it is true you’ll never look at the NBA the same way again. Unless you always figured it was scripted.

by johnnycougar on Nov 9, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was interestng

Deadspin Link

Helps reinforce how refs can influence a game. Spread was Cal -13 by the way.

by cougfan on Nov 9, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

cheers

I’m thinking of betting on Bavetta games this year.

by johnnycougar on Nov 9, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No joke, get your bets in now

Sounds like he’s retiring after this year, too. The NBA has a nice mess on it’s hands

by cougfan on Nov 9, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know!

I love that Donaghy hardly holds back at all. Just a straight shooter. The book is on my Christmas list.

by johnnycougar on Nov 9, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Doubtful

The publisher cut the book off so nobody in the outside world knows it exists. The NBA doesn’t want it seeing the light of day

by cougfan on Nov 9, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The best passer you've ever seen?

Better than the one and only Kyle Weaver?

by DrayCox on Nov 9, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ha

Weaver is my favorite Coug ever but even I’ll admit he was capable of a few stupid passes a game.

by johnnycougar on Nov 9, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Better than Weaver...

From what I saw tonight. I loved Weaver second favorite cougar of all time behind T-Roch.

by crimson and gray on Nov 9, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

excellent, thanks!

If only I was still a student in Pullman…

by johnnycougar on Nov 9, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why not post this in a FanPost?

That’s kinda what that function is for …

CougCenter

by Nuss on Nov 9, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Nuss

you are always so organized

by johnnycougar on Nov 9, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry...

I can move it there if you want me to now! haha I’m new to the whole posting thing.

by crimson and gray on Nov 9, 2009 10:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be great

If for no other reason than it’ll get more play and be read by more people in its own post, rather than being buried in a comment.

CougCenter

by Nuss on Nov 9, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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