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[Author's note: while I'm pretty good at keeping my cool, this was written minutes after the end of the game, so there's some heat of the moment stuff. I don't necessarily think the officials should be fired, and I don't think Oregon fans are idiots even if they think they won fair and square. After all, Tajuan Porter did make a billion shots and I can't wait to see him graduate. Nevertheless, tonight was a nightmare]

http://www.pac-10.org/school-bio/staff-dir.html

I don't care who on this contact list you write to. Best would probably be Larry Scott, the commissioner, or Bill McCabe, coordinator of Men's basketball officiating who, surprise! doesn't have an e-mail address listed.

You may have to write a letter, which is done in pen or pencil written on some archaic substance known as "paper". I don't care how you do it. Just do it. Let the conference know what happened tonight is unacceptable and makes a mockery of what is supposed to be a fair game.

Please be civil, make your arguments succinct, powerful and for heavens sake please don't resort to swearing. Our crowd tonight, minus a couple idiotic item-throwers at the very end, handled tonight's events with a lot of dignity and grace, especially compared to the Leunen game a couple years back.

Tonight's officiating crew should be held accountable for tonight's game. They should be fired. Of course that's probably too harsh for a conference as spineless as the officials who work for it. So, at the very least, they should be suspended without pay. God forbid 18 and 19 year old kids get excited about a win. And, of course, when Oregon did the exact same thing (encroaching on the court) at the end of the second overtime, they weren't called for it.

I have seen some messed up officiating in my time in Pullman. Oddly, it often seems to happen against the Ducks (the Leunen foul, the Aaron Brooks travel, etc. etc.). If you're a Duck fan and you think you somehow won this game fairly, you are, simply put, an idiot. That would be like us coming onto your blog and saying Colorado and Nebraska clearly deserved to play for the 2002 National Championship over your football team. You could make half-assed arguments to the contrary, but in the end, everyone knows what the right thing to do was. And it didn't happen.

What happened tonight was disgusting and a disgrace to the Pac-10 conference, college basketball, and officiating in general. Rest easy, Husky fans: we now know how you felt after Jake Locker threw that ball up in the air.

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Well said Grady

The officiating in this conference in all sports has been the joke of the nation for quite a while.

Now if you’ll excuse me this one is going to take some time to get over.

by Brian Floyd on Dec 31, 2009 7:06 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Yes, and it was the "correct call" when Jake Locker celebrated

And it’s also the “correct call” when the Ducks did it late in the second half and the 1,284 times Ernie Kent stands on the floor in bounds when the possession is on his end of the floor.

But thanks for the condolences, that will get us our win back.

by Grady Clapp on Dec 31, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

What exactly is a correct call?

Is one-and-a-half steps always a travel? Is 3-in-the-key always enforced? Is Ernie given a technical every time he wanders outside the coaching box? Or does judgement sometimes come into play? For some reason, I’m not sure this would have happened to Duke and Coach K.

by BoboHunter on Dec 31, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Done and Done

I’ve e-mailed Hirsch and Scott. I did ask for their names as I would like to watch their ongoing work this season. Our local news left out the shot of the Duck bench on the court and just showed Bone chatting it up with the ref.

by PDXCoug on Dec 31, 2009 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

Is it just my computer

But when I clicked on Larry Scott’s name it just went to his profile, not e-mail.

by spokanecougar on Dec 31, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

Names of officials

Officials: Mike Littlewood, Tony Padilla, Bruce Hicks

I emailed lscott@pac-10.org

by PDXCoug on Dec 31, 2009 7:54 PM PST reply actions  

Ok

Wasn’t going to do it, since we are not going to get the win back, but it just kept eating at me how horrible these refs were after I saw the replays that I sent off a e-mail to Larry Scott. The Pac-10 cannot let this go and should know that the fans are upset. I was nice and polite, so lets hope everyone else is also.

by spokanecougar on Dec 31, 2009 8:28 PM PST reply actions  

I wrote as well

It’s not about getting the win back. That can’t happen. But it needs to be clear that fans will go away and not take the conference seriously if officiating is this bad and determines the outcome of games. It takes the fun out of it.

by 02Coug on Dec 31, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I will write something, but I will wait a few days or to next week

I want to be very clear headed and I do not want it to get lost in the shuffle because of the holiday’s and the Rose Bowl festivities.

by Coug1990 on Dec 31, 2009 8:34 PM PST reply actions  

In the Grippi article, the foul called on WSU made it a dead ball

So, no technical was called on the oregon bench when they ran onto the court.

by Coug1990 on Dec 31, 2009 8:47 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah

It also mentioned that they were taking the ball out when the ref blew the whistle. First hand accounts seem to be that the whistle blew as the ball went through the hoop, making it a dead ball. Really, that becomes the question. Did an official blow the play dead before or after Oregon tried to inbound the ball.

by 02Coug on Dec 31, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The refs explanation made me laugh

It screamed, “You shouldn’t fire me because…”

by Grady Clapp on Dec 31, 2009 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The Solution is simple

WSU must embarrass Oregon at Home. I don’t mean just win and ease up. I mean simply humiliate them before their home fans.

by CougM.E.93 on Dec 31, 2009 9:19 PM PST reply actions  

I have a feeling

every player on the team wants to play them again

by spokanecougar on Dec 31, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

In the last game ever at the Pit

Uh, assuming they don’t get an NIT/CBI/whatever Oregon State won last year home game.

by Coug Friendly Canuck on Jan 1, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I e-mailed Larry Scott

God, I hate the Ducks.

Cal didn't have DJaxFIRST

by ConnorOSU on Dec 31, 2009 11:39 PM PST reply actions  

Actually, the call was correct.....

Given that there was still time on the clock, Oregon was entitled to inbound the ball, but was impeded from doing so by the fact that there were more than 5 cougs on the floor. There’s a difference between running onto the floor and jumping up from your seat.

I realize that the NBA and NCAA are different, but you might remember a few years ago that some Phoenix Suns left the bench area in excitement and they not only lost the playoff game, but were suspended from the next one, which probably cost them the series. At least the Cougs who violated the rule haven’t been suspended! (Yet??) But if people make a big enough fuss, maybe they will be.

By the way, the “they did it too” rule doesn’t work on the freeway for speeding, and doesn’t work in basketball. You might as well quiet down and get ready for the Beavers so it isn’t an entirely lost weekend.

by 2020 vision on Jan 1, 2010 12:00 AM PST reply actions  

Actually,

because context is everything, it was NOT correct.

There was no impedance to Oregon getting the ball inbounds… they weren’t even TRYING to get the ball inbounds. The Duck with the ball was walking to mid-court, along with EVERY OTHER Duck on the floor. They called a timeout with no one in position to put the ball back in play.

The call was a direct injection of the refs into the game.

by TiltingRight on Jan 1, 2010 12:58 AM PST up reply actions  

there was NO oregon player on the baseline trying to inbound the ball

and a whistle was blown as soon as the ball went through the hoop (presumably to figure out how much time was on the clock).

there goes that argument.

by BigWood! on Jan 1, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

shut up

42 free throws to 16 and you are crying about the officials. Shut up.

by duck feaver on Jan 1, 2010 1:04 AM PST reply actions  

Go Buckeyes

That is the worst argument I’ve seen, even on on Internet message board.

by StraightOuttaPullman on Jan 1, 2010 2:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Really? Like you wouldn't be

complaining about a similar disparity in fouls if the situation was reversed. Cougs had chances to win. Didn’t.

by Perilous on Jan 1, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

our fans here aren't retarded

and understand that free throw disparity has nothing to do with officials.

by BigWood! on Jan 1, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Statistics have shown

that Oregon gets more calls at home than any other Pac 10 team.

by Cougar999 on Jan 1, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Ridiculous

I’m a UW student and after watching our game against the Beavers me and some buddies came back to watch the other Pac-10 highlights and we ALL concluded that the cougs got jobbed. That was probably the worst basketball call I’ve ever seen (even worse than Calvin Haynes standing up with the ball and not getting called for traveling tonight). I hope for all of our sakes that the Pac-10 does something about their terrible refs.

Free throw advantage says nothing about the quality of the refs! Isn’t it possible that one team draws more fouls than the other by driving the ball and playing good defense?

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 1, 2010 1:31 AM PST reply actions  

Never thought I'd say this to a Husky fan

but thank you. And if fouls had been called evenly it woulda been 102 FT for the cougs.

by Cougar999 on Jan 1, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

You're correct on all counts

Almost all of Thompson’s FT attempts were fouls while he was driving to the rim. That is the one area of his game that now makes him a legitimate threat against any one. It also looks like the payoff of adding it to his game now includes the high FT % he had last season.

by CougM.E.93 on Jan 1, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Piss off

30 more free throws and you whine about the refs?

The call was correct. The Coug bench interrupted a live ball situation. The Duck bench did not because there was a foul.

You’re wrong and I laugh at what a pathetic crybaby you are. Must be sad about that middle of the pack Division III football team you’re struggling to field up there. Ouch. Don’t get any more snow in your vag.

by DuckedOut on Jan 1, 2010 2:18 AM PST reply actions  

Normally I'd want the Rose Bowl to be a good game.

Today I want to see the Ducks get smashed and send Chip Kelly crying from the field.

by Cougar999 on Jan 1, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh and you guys and Jake Locker do have something in common…you both have joke programs.

LOL! Cry more Cougs, the tears are sweet.

by DuckedOut on Jan 1, 2010 2:20 AM PST reply actions  

Never cared for Oregon before, but never HATED them......

Until this game and their fans now coming on here and acting like this. I have never seen fans from other blogs talk like this, UW fans don’t even come on here and talk like this. Grow up dude and probably cut back on the drinking.

I have never wanted Oregon to get there ass kicked in everything before. I hope UW stomps them in basketball and Ohio State slaughters them in the Rose Bowl…..and I hate Ohio State, but damn I hope the kill the little Duckies. I will never root for that Phil Knight University again and I know see why people from across the country say Oregon has the worst fans in college sports.

by spokanecougar on Jan 1, 2010 2:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn dude.

I grew up a duck fan, and have always hated the huskies. I’ve struggled to defend the ducks, saying that their fans are obnoxious, but at least they are dedicated, unlike our purple friends. But now I have to say, you guys are like kids with guns. You’re given a little success and you act like you’re better than everyone else. Even the huskies handle winning better than you. In the end, when your teams are down again, the rest of the Pac 10 will move on and forget about you again, so just enjoy it now.

I’ll take my Cougs, win or lose.

by displacedcoug on Jan 1, 2010 3:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Ernie Kents quote in the Oregonian

We couldnt inbound the ball cuz they were on the court. Not the actual quote, but something like that. Funny, I didnt see them try to inbound because they called a timeout.

by Cougar999 on Jan 1, 2010 10:19 AM PST reply actions  

No timeout was called

That the Ducks had a timeout is irrelevant. Until they call the timeout, it’s a live-ball situation. Bone couldn’t control his bench and got hit for it. Players from the bench are not allowed on the court during a live-ball situation. It’s very simple. Deal with it.

by Perilous on Jan 1, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

too funny

the play was stopped. the oregon player HOLDING THE BALL was headed for the sidelines. the whistle blew when the ball went through the net.

live ball, my ass.

by BigWood! on Jan 1, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone needs to watch the highlights again

Because when you do, you can clearly see every single Oregon player walking to the bench and not one Oregon player walking over to throw the ball in. The play was dead and every single Oregon player knew a timeout was called and was walking over to their bench. Watch the game or at least the replay of the game before posting and making yourself look uninformed.

by spokanecougar on Jan 1, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

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