OPEN GAME THREAD: IDAHO @ WSU
by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 7:30 PM PST
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PrintIdaho Vandals at Washington St. Cougars, Dec 9, 2009 8:00 PM PST
Time: 8pm PST
Location: Friel Court in frigid Pullman, WA.
TV: FSN Northwest, FCS Pacific
Radio: Find your local station here. Or streaming online for a fee at wsucougars.com.
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Players to Watch:
Klay Thompson, WSU: Starting to sound a little redundant, but as Klay goes, the Cougs go. Can he bounce back from a couple below average performances?
Steffan Johnson, Idaho: Johnson transferred from Pacific, where he played over 30 minutes a game and averaged over 14 points per game two years ago. He has quickly asserted himself as Idaho's best offensive threat.
X-Factors:
DeAngelo Casto, WSU: Can Casto dominate the inside against players that he should be able to overmatch physically? Casto's defensive rebounding percentage has left something to be desired so far this season, sitting at just over 15%. The Cougs need Dee to assert himself on the defensive glass and end possessions for the other team, because we know there are not many other guys on the front line who are capable of doing so.
Mac Hopson, Idaho: The former Coug has made a nice transition to the U of I. He is shooting well and distributing the ball well so far this season. Look for him to play with a little extra fire against his former school.
The Keys:
The Cougars win if... they defend the three point shot better than they have all year, dominate the glass, and eliminate stupid turnovers.
The Vandals win if... they continue their hot shooting from the outside and take advantage of the Cougs lackluster three point defense, and Klay is unable to do the same on the other end.
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I would walk up to the coliseum..
but its 9 degrees. So much for that.
Plus you gotta watch out for those Idaho drivers
when you walk around.
(Too soon?)
by StraightOuttaPullman on Dec 9, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Just as a side note
How does a person manage to hit two people in two different spots in the span of a minute?
Gonzaga is absolutely destroying Augustana
The Cougars play a tough opponent tonight in Idaho.
You just know that Mac Hopson is going to be up for this game.
Francis Williams?
I’m surprised he knows where Pullman is. Although he will talk a lot about Reggie Moore tonight. I guess that’s good.
Do you remember the year he was the Sonic color man to David Locke's play-by-play
even though Mr. Williams was not at the game, but in the studio watching on the tv.
If that wasn’t a foreshadow of what Clay Bennett was trying to do with the Sonics, I don’t know what is.
So hard to study in the library
When I know the game is going on in Beasley
by P_Cougar on Dec 9, 2009 8:02 PM PST via mobile reply actions
at the game
Too many vandal fans. Whatever coug fans let a couple of them in the zzu cru should be shot.
Also Enquist is on tonights ticket stub. Bad omen.
by Grady Clapp on Dec 9, 2009 8:05 PM PST via mobile reply actions
and again
brutal D on the 1st possession, though.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
4 points and a steal
Granted…he turned it back over. But still, that’s good to see.
We were worried about that
A lot easier to rebound when you’re
1. Playing next to Aron Baynes. And
2. Playing 20 minutes a night.
Indeed.
And letting your man push you under the basket is like the last possession also doesn’t help. You can’t
always count on outjumping.
Hit post with my thumb while typing
Verlin's a damn fine coach.
Always loved watching those Utah State teams when he was in charge of the flash cards down there.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 8:12 PM PST reply actions
I love the flash card system
Reminds me of a combination of French class and playing basketball as a fourth grader.
I lived by it.
When I coached high school.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
He does have nice girlish features.
Plus he used to wear a lot of purple.
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i am a little worried
The vandal fans might rush our court if they win. Zzu cru needs to show up
by Grady Clapp on Dec 9, 2009 8:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Wow. What really has happened to the ZZU CRU then?
Why are we no longer supporting the team like the last 3 years? It’s not like they’ve lost a bunch of games yet either…
was wondering if that was just me
of course, without HD, i can’t tell enquist and motum apart, so who am i to judge.
Nik looks like he's shooting an old school set shot
Everytime he puts up a three. Not that I mind, it’s going in (or nearly going in).
One more thought on Casto
Remember, he is coming off knee surgery. To my eye, he doesn’t look as explosive off the floor as he did last year.
In the long run, that could be good for him
if he fully recovers. Since he doesn’t have quite the athleticsm, he will have to work on other parts of his game.
fantastic foul, D...
i’m shaking my fist as hard as i can without spilling my scotch.
That was a quick jump ball call after how long they let it go last time.
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if idaho were hitting their shots
they’d be up 15 right now….this could get ugly.
They've had open looks
But Klay has missed a couple good ones too.
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meh, you're probably right.
i guess i expect casto to miss all his post moves
I am pissed at the zzu cru
Horrible effort. Vandal fans are louder and it is ridiculous. Only our drunk fans in the 200s are making noise
by Grady Clapp on Dec 9, 2009 8:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions
It is dead week
Going into finals week… and these days there are as many test/projects due this week as next. If it gets bad enough though I may have to say “screw the GREs tomorrow” and head to the game for support!
by P_Cougar on Dec 9, 2009 8:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He's also rocking the balding mullet
Rarely used but highly effective.
wow, reggie
don’t pick up your dribble five feet above the arc….
Dear Mike Harthun:
Please do something useful.
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 8:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That was nice D by Thames on that possession.
Good job helping and recovering.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
When I see Enquist in the game
I somehow think that if I looked over at the bench, I would see Gene Hackman coaching the Cougs.
by Coug1990 on Dec 9, 2009 8:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
our fans would lose their collective minds
if the announcers put on the other team’s shirts….
can you imagine if they had ehlo put on a zag shirt last week?
people would demanding his stats be stricken from our records…
he sits in my section at football games
he big-timed me for a picture last year. so now i just assume he’s a zag.
If Enquist still has a WSU scholarship at this time next year
I will officially declare that Ken Bone is insane.
I would put money on that discussion already happening
Hey kid, you got a sec. You might want to start working on your FAFSA for next year. Just saying.
Don't know if you heard Bone's radio show
But he basically said this year is one long tryout. He sounds like he has no problem sending one or two guys on their way.
Dear Cougar players:
There are more guys on the other team trying to take the ball away than the one behind you.
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What the heck is the point.
Of giving him minutes over guys that might have a chance to be players?
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
don't look now
but casto’s made two straight point-blank shots
Love it.
my girlfriend is wrapping presents and trying to sound like she’s interested in this game. the shot clock was winding down and she yells, “Hurry up, the play clock!”
points for effort, right?
indeed
the top chef finale made this game irrelevant to the female member of this household, apparently
or when we had Taylor.
she loved Rochestie so much it was kind of gross.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
Studying for finals for mine.
Grad school is important or something like that.
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Being born in 1990
would you even know what to do with it? i mean, i hear that if you don’t ‘use it, you lose it’.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
eeeesh
well then the joke was a complete failure.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
I am sorry if I offended you
You are taking this all way to seriously. All of us like to joke on this board.
haha
dude im not offended, and i know we joke, thats what i was doing too
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
Klay has really brought his offensive A game tonight
Shot selection has been wonderful, only one drive that I would consider forced, and he scored on that anyway. If he had hit those two open baseline 3s …
Now, if we could just get him to stop giving the ball to the other team, we’d really be onto something!
Uh, he did jack that crazy 3 in transition.
But he is playing great.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
indeed
one drive, he had watson up in the air and i’m yelling “MAKE CONTACT!”…. he didn’t, but sure enough gets a 3-point-play 2 seconds later.
i find it shocking that klay is at 80 ft%
feels much lower
He seems to be splitting most of his free threes
But I guess not
He's going to shoot more FT's tonight...
…than he did all year last year.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
won't show up in the boxscore
but nik put a helluva box-out on afro-tabulous on that last play
He was a great interior passer last year.
When he had someone else to pass to.
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This is the Cougs best line-up.
Reggie, Klay, Capers, Nik, D
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 8:48 PM PST reply actions
casto with the nice PASS?!?!?!?!
crooks are chasing cops and cats are having puppies.
I can't believe that guy went so hard for the Casto fake.
Has he ever shot a 16 footer?
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please
casto can dunk from there
poor ledbetter
didn’t have a chance
I think my wife has the same hair clip thingy as Ledbetter
And I wish his first name was yellow
Yes, and I can't hear anything but those lyrics anymore
Not that I ever understood that song, even when I sung along
You don't need to understand it
Besides, as each year goes by, Vedder just mumbles more and more. It’s actually pretty annoying for me, a guy who’s a PJ fan from WAY back in the day.
Way way way better d today.
I still think the way they guard the pick ’n roll is insane.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 8:51 PM PST reply actions
i'm not a big fan of our defensive rotation
it seems that every team can rotate the ball around enough to where we have one man (usually the 4) guarding two of them in the blocks
It seems like Bone wants the screener's man to hedge the screen hard..
… and then rotate back to his own man. I get that you can avoid mismatches doing that, but the screener’s man has a long way to go to get back and the other big ends up guarding two men.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
That's exactly what we've done for three years under Tony Bennett
Our execution just seems bad. You gotta know when it’s time to go back to your man. My main complaint is that the guys that are hedging seem to hedge too far out. Unless you’re trying to trap, you only need to hedge long enough to take the advantage away.
They seriously should pop in a video of Baynes hedging last year. That guy became the master.
He did
If I ever get into coaching, I will show Baynes hedging to all my big men. I will also show them his one career three, with instructions that only in a similar situation are they allowed to shoot it.
The amazing part is how insanely awful he was at it for three years
If I could get a montage of him from his freshman to senior year to show big men what you can do with hard work, I would. It’s nothing short of completely remarkable what he became.
Ledbedder goes to the same barber as Derrick Low
went to when he lived on the Palouse
Harthun is the basketball version of Skylar Stormo.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
he needs his own action figures
penalty flags included.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Stormo saves the day again with a false start in a crucial situation!
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I feel like Stormo needs a cape
or some sort of mask/facepaint to conceal his secret identity
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
why
because he’ll give me the Hogan Leg Drop?
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Well, it's a little different when he has to leave his guy to cover a rotation
When you’re a shooter, you should always start with your feet behind the line and look for that first. I should know — when I play basketball, I never cross the 3-point line … on either end of the floor.
I wish I could rec from my phone
by Grady Clapp on Dec 9, 2009 8:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
halftime plus/minus
Thompson 13
Moore 7
Lodwick 5
Casto 3
Capers 1
Enquist -3
Koprivica -5
Harthun -7
Thames -7
Watson -7
Because that's not a proper plus/minus.
One of these days I’m going to pay enough attention to do one.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
for our hockey fans :)
Thompson 10
Moore 7
Lodwick 6
Casto 5
Capers 4
Enquist 2
Koprivica 1
Harthun 0
Thames 0
Watson 0
basketball's is different
i’m assuming from the amounts of points being scored….not clear why.
i do think charlie at a -3 is more accurate than him being at a 2. Because we were better when he was off the court than on.
i don't think those were cheerleaders
i think they were latte-girls or hairstylists or something
ha.
the girl that cut my hair at SuperCuts looked just like her. way to be spot on.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CLOSE A CAN WITH A POP TOP?
I love deep cable commercials.
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I wouldn't say that
The 5 hour energy guy really is starting to creep me out.
so does tequila
that’s why you don’t need to down much of it at all.
Half thoughts
Good game by the whole team, beating a good Idaho team without klay hitting absolutely everything. I think a lot of our fans are disrespecting how good Idaho is.
Still need to put together a 40 min defensive effort. Hope we do.
Casto is playing well. We’re not getting beat on the boards and three point defense was just good enough.
by Grady Clapp on Dec 9, 2009 8:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I agree with whoever said earlier that the knee
injury might help Casto in the long run. He’s really doing a nice job tonight using his body to get open for the finish inside.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
I actually was quite impressed by this half
Would’ve felt a lot better without that Ledbetter 3 at the end of it, but very good overall. Amazing what happens when you don’t give the ball away. Makes it so much easier to score (duh) and defend.
I agree, it was a good half
They had an 8-2 run, but for the most part it was a slow and steady half that they continued to slowly add on.
Craigers!
I like being a creeper
"I can't define it; I can't tell somebody who isn't a Cougar what it's like. There's something that happens at Washington State, you quietly and subtly become infected. There are very few people I've ever met who have gone to WSU and not come away with a favorable impression ... Washington State was a passion. Being a Cougar was a passion." -Jim Walden
by SweaterVestWorshipper on Dec 9, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
No.
I am considering having a snow cap though. The bottle is very festive.
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stat of the half
Idaho leads the nation in belligerent fan %
by Grady Clapp on Dec 9, 2009 9:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions
They are going to a bowl game and they just beat a ranked team!
Also, drinking heavily makes a lot of people belligerent.
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thats what i was thinking
not sure i’ve ever met an Idaho alum who was proud to admit it.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
stupid springfield fans...
no wonder we beat them in football almost half the time!
by BigWood on Dec 9, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
One stat of note
We turned the ball over six times in the first 10 minutes. Zero times in the final 10. Oddly enough, we went on our run in the final 10 …
so wait
just so i understand this clearly….turnovers are affecting us adversely?
Dr. Floyd comes to our football section to shake hands most games
and it takes every ounce of my strength not to call him Lando.
by BigWood on Dec 9, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
HAAHAHAAHHAHAA
Sam Smith was like that too. He was such a cool guy. GREAT president.
I resisted the urge to call him Hobbit.
Rodman is one of my favorite all time players
and no one understands why. not even me.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
I've heard so many pronunciations of Abe's name
I no longer have any idea how to pronounce Lodwick.
thank you for the caps lock.
it always makes me feel better
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Got it.
de souza looks like ‘Spanish’ from Old School.
“But you already work at Red Lobster…”
“Yeah but it’s part time, dick.”
An on ball screen for Klay
That is not something we would have seen last year
stock up on canned foods
lodwick is heating up
We have missed more dunks this year
Then we made all of last year. At least if you took Baynes dunks out of the equation.
So.
Lodwick gets blocked with a guy making his best effort at a skullet and Capers misses a dunk. Nice sequence.
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Sometimes, we have to be reminded
We are who we thought we were.
I couldn't come up with a good way to rephrase it
But secretly, I moonlight as an awful football coach.
Is anyone else just completely flabbergasted
That Idaho hasn’t even tried to follow the blueprint on Klay? I know the guards are smaller, but they’re not pressuring him, grabbing him, pushing him off his spots … they’re really not doing anything special with him. That’s just insanity.
They’ve got a 10 man rotation. If I’m Verlin, I’m telling my guards to just beat the hell out of him and let them call 20 fouls if they want. But I’m not letting him ever even catch the ball without making him work hard for it.
i thought they were doing an ok job of that in the first half
not sure what happened to the gameplan.
Klay had 15 points
And they were a pretty easy 15 — could’ve easily been 21 if not for a couple of missed wide open 3s.
Gotcha
What I was trying to say is that they needed to be physical with him before he ever catches the ball. Impede his progress. Make him work. They were doing none of that.
When you foul him going to the rim, it’s WAAAAAAY too late.
A lot of complaining tonight
The drop step is not a worthless move, what are you talking about?
The bunny hop is worthless.
Not the drop step. The complaining is sarcastic.
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Enquist couldnt quite get there for the foul
by Cougar999 on Dec 9, 2009 9:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
so i thought option D: The Defense was ironic
and it ended up being correct…..
how did charlie miss that board?
and yes, i’m asking that question ironically.
I keep thinking he can't possibly be that bad, simply because he's tall
But he’s that bad. It’s so brutal watching him try and play.
we had a kid in our high school that was 6'6" as a freshman.
no coordination whatsoever, but the coaches gave him a roster spot for three years hoping he’d eventually learn to walk.
no clue what tony was thinking with this kid….was charlie even any good in high school?
do we need to count down in serbian for nik?
by BigWood on Dec 9, 2009 9:27 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
frustrating stretch
These guys need to learn you close games at the ft line
by Grady Clapp on Dec 9, 2009 9:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions
NIK!
25 percent of the time, it works every time!
by Jeff Nusser on Dec 9, 2009 9:31 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm not gonna lie
it smells like pure gasoline.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
So Jeff.
Abe has two threes and Nik has two three. Grady is pretty happy right now.
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Now I feel a little bad for making fun of him about Nik
But it’s only a matter of time before he bricks eight in a row.
do you think Enquist gets laid because of being on the team?
or does he just get laughed at off the court, too?
I saw him at Fireside Grill once and i didnt recognize him until 5 minutes after they called his name
My dad said “isnt that guy on the basketball team?”
girls give him the "he's tall" benefit of the doubt
same one his coaches gave him. everyone just leaves disappointed.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
when we're up 25
i want to see that move…..repeatedly
Alright everyone
So what is inside Mac’s closet? Quickly before the break ends.
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doesn't he have a ton of shoes?
they did a thing on him back when he was a frosh
he could start his own cult....
as long as the whole church wears size 10.
what do we want for christmas from the cougs?
i’m going to go with casto 14 footers
A billion dollars.
That’s what I want for Christmas from the Cougs.
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A tall glass of better football coach
That’s what I want for Christmas from the Cougs.
shocking fact
Our team plays worse when our worst players are on the floor.
Odd coaching by Bone. Halfcourt offense and bench players. Do that when the game is completely in hand
by Grady Clapp on Dec 9, 2009 9:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Man, I just hate the way we can't keep our foot on someone's throat
I know Idaho is better than they’ve played tonight and they were bound to make a run, but geez. So frustrating when it’s not all them.
just put those two dancers in the corner of the screen for the last 8 minutes
who’s against that? terrorists?
was he there to support Idaho?
since he’ll be transferring there in the off-season?
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
Idaho's in a bowl game
We’ll be taking their leftovers this year, instead of the other way.
I absolutely HATE the way we slow down late in the game with the lead
It killed us against EWU, it killed us against Gonzaga, and it’s killing us now.
glad I'm not the only one
Really pissed off about that.
Bone has been coaching long enough to know better
by Grady Clapp on Dec 9, 2009 9:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The offence is sure grinding to a halt.
Bone’s said he still needs to install most of the offensive system so, you know, hopefully that gets fixed.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
I got the solution
Continue to push the ball. For as much as we took pride in our hard-working halfcourt offense over the past few years, there’s really something to be said for getting two the easy way. This team doesn’t have the wherewithal to score consistently in the halfcourt.
i took history of rock and roll
WAY easier than history of baseball.
Yeah no joke
I know almost everything about Baseball and somehow managed to get a B+ in that…
haha true
That was a very, very cool part of that course
Hockey in Canadian culture was a nightmare.
Holy cow there was a lot of reading in that course.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know anyone that got higher then a b +
But I loved the course.
It is when he gave it away as many times as he did last game
And when he’s giving it away in unforced ways.
thank you, nusser
you sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
she was on the Drill Team
not the cheer squad. she was basically Meg from family guy
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
mad at Bone
Starters wouldn’t need to be out there if he hadn’t been dicking around with the lineup earlier
by Grady Clapp on Dec 9, 2009 9:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions
"To get to playoffs"
My favorite response to the Christmas question.
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i liked 'Fewer Turnovers"
and to play Virginia in the NCAA tourney
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
Dissmore's Palouse Invitational
sponsored by Ferdinands
Dissmore's Palouse 5-Pillars Invitational
by BigWood on Dec 9, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
with special guest
bagger extraordinaire Charlie Enquist
Virginia is 4-4
They won’t be in any tourney’s…
I believe Capers thinks
that is blanking blank. Don’t think he liked the call.
'i want to vs Clay Thompson in a 3point shootout'
i have zero faith in humanity.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Does Ledbetter have a bow in his hair?
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 9:57 PM PST reply actions
I'll tell you what I don't want for xmas
Anymore 20 point leads early in the game, we get too secure.
If twenty point leads early mean we still win, that's fine with me.
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
But I get what you mean.
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
nice job, hector the projector....
we were all sucked in by how adorable he looks
Lodwick looks like he wants to be friends with you soooo badly.
he never goes home, you have to tell him to leave
Thames has definately passed Harthun in the rotation
I am guessing that neither he, nor Enquist will be on scholarship next year. Aden replaces Harthun and an unknown JC Big will replace Enquist.
Haha
That was hilarious, I love the “or better” part. Who gave that person a phone?
"If you follow his career, you know he was never the same after his shoulder injury"
Apparently he didn’t follow his career.
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
a liiiiiiiiiittle sloppy
but I like a “W” for the young bucks—big game for Casto-
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
Casto was awesome.
No reason he shouldn’t be able to do that against any team in the Pac-10 this year.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Dec 9, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
Most obnoxious 12 point win ever.
But I had convinced myself we were going to lose, so the result is nice.
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Easy on Enquist-
let’s not forget how tough it was to watch Baynes lear to use his hands- give thelad some time- PAC paint is rugged he must learn to play while getting shoved
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
Baynes was about 60 pounds heavier, more athletic, and more polished.
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Baynes had the potential to be a 260-pound beast
Enquist does not. Even when Baynes couldn’t catch a pass, he could still rebound.
you guys were ruthless
On Big Baynes and said many of the same he’ll never make it remarks. Enquist is real thin- we need his fouls in the paint- may have a few games wherein we need to use all Bjorn’s too.
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
by hollyweirdcoug on Dec 9, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
Well, this did not exist then.
So I have no idea how you would know if we said these remarks.
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
in the coug talk forums in papers and the like
sorry didn’t mean ‘you cougfan’ guys specifically…
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
by hollyweirdcoug on Dec 9, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
True
But he’s right — I killed Baynes back in the day, mostly for his inability to catch the ball and avoid picking up fouls 25 feet from the basket. But, like I said, he could always rebound. Charlie is having a tough time being a positive influence in any phase at the moment.
that said
baynes made a HUGE leap from his freshman to sophomore year and an even larger leap from his sophomore to junior year.
charlie doesn’t have it. of course we need him. our team’s not very good.
style of play
matters, if it was slow and plodding as it was in the slow and plodding Bayne day- the style might fit his transition better- I am not ready to throw the guy under the bus. I saw them rat balling this summer and he has decent feet and hands and moves pretty good for a big man. Far better than Baynes at this same time who came a long way soph to junior
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by hollyweirdcoug on Dec 9, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Baynes went 10-10 for 25 points against USC in his sophomore season.
Do you ever see Enquist doing anything close to that? The body types of the two guys make the comparison difficult.
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
i don't think he's going to make it....
but i’m mostly on him for how he’s playing now….not who he’s going to become. who knows what effect, if any, he’ll have in 2011, but in 2009, he is hurting this team.
final plus/minus
Thompson 33
Moore 27
Lodwick 25
Casto 21
Capers 17
Watson -15
Enquist -27
Koprivica -35
Thames -37
Harthun -39
Oh Mike...
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
or as i like to call it
who was in when we went on the run and who was in when we blew it?
Solid win
I know it didn’t exactly feel good down the stretch, but I like that Klay didn’t have to bail us out. If you thought Idaho was a pretty good team before the game, it shouldn’t surprise you they were able to come back — especially after shooting the ball from 3 as poorly as they did early on. This was a team that was shooting 45 percent from 3 before tonight.
There are definitely things to learn — like continuing to push the tempo even when up — but the final margin is in a nice range against a solid opponent. I hope people appreciate this as a step forward, especially with the way the defense played.
Plus we know through the transitive property that we will beat UCLA by 60.
That will be fun.
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
i think our 20+ point run there to start the half was not indicative of this team
got a little out of control…then corrected itself.
we’re about 15 points better than idaho. and that was the end result.
You guys with your rational thought.
Silliness.
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
There is something different about that kid.
What could it be?
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
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