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Pac-10 Roundtable: Conference tournament edition

CougCenter has rejoined the Pac-10 Roundtable, whose format has been changed just a little bit. Rather than each participating blog posting its own thoughts on a series of common questions, we actually are tackling it now more as a chat surrounding one burning question for the week -- and this week's seems especially pertinant to the Cougs.

This week's burning question:
Give us your tournament predictions.

CougCenter: I think it's pretty obvious that the prohibitive favorite has to be Washington. I held out hope yesterday that the Cougs could go into Hec-Ed yesterday and emerge with their fourth consecutive win, but the one thing that worried me above all else was the Huskies' depth. WSU had made its living in the previous weekend wearing down a couple of tired teams, but Washington didn't wear down one iota on Saturday. They're just so outstanding 1 through 10 that Lorenzo Romar can mix and match in ways no one else in the conference can.

Conquest Chronicles (Laughing Stock): I'm not so sure Washington is the prohibitive favorite to win. Looking at their conference record, 3 of their losses came against some of the better Pac 10 teams on the road, and all three were double digit losses (OK OK, Arizona only beat them by nine). However, the most illuminating statistic has to be this; in Pac 10 play at home the Huskies average 35.56 free throw attempts while on the road they average only 21.78. Let that sink in for a moment and then tell me that they are still the prohibitive favorites.

Anyways, SC has to win at least two to be in the NCAA tournament discussion, and has interesting matchups to get there. I really like our chances against Cal as the trojans played them tough on both meetings, and although I think SC would have a better chance at beating anyone else in conference I would want nothing else than a third game against UCLA in the 2nd round. Outside of SC though, there are some really fantastic matchups in the early rounds. Assuming WSU takes down Oregon, the Cougar-Bruin game should be a great contest, I also think that either Stanford or OSU really has a shot at surprising UW, and I will definitely tune in to watch Arizona vs. ASU. All in all, it is a really exciting bunch of games, especially considering all of the contrasting styles of play that are used around the Pac.

California Golden Blogs:  Firstly, I think most Cal fans are very nervous about the game against USC.  They lost to USC in LA and beat USC in OT at home.  Now, yes, USC is slumping, but they need to win to get in.  And Cal does not.  We just saw on Saturday against ASU what can happen when Cal loses focus.  USC NEEDS this a lot more than Cal does. 

Moreover, it is essentially a USC home game.

Speaking of home games, I believe UCLA will win.  UCLA has clearly had some up and down times this season.  But they did beat UW at home.  And UCLA is in a position where they want to make up for a few embarassments this season.  Winning the Pac10 Tournament would clearly do that.  Mark it down for UCLA.  I'm calling it.  And I, TwistNHook, have never been wrong.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to call my broker to place more investments into Circuit City, AIG, The Sharper Image, Ann Taylor, and the Republican Party.

Conquest Chronicles (Paragon SC): sounds like major rueage to me...will this be like Gettysburg? Will I be able to bring a pick-a-nic basket (Yogi Bear reference there) to watch the carnage?

UCLA will rise to the challenge and win the tourney. Without looking at the P-10 tourney brackets Washington and ASU will be the only competition...that is throwing a dart at a board as I am totally clueless when it comes to hoops!

Ahem.....

CougCenter: Trust me, nobody hopes Washington loses more than us, but I'm really surprised most people are so quick to dismiss the team that just won the conference title. Why is everyone so down on the Huskies? Do you guys just not believe they're for real?

Pitchfork Nation: Trust me, Washington is for real. Take it from the team whose soul was crushed not once but TWO WHOLE TIMES by the Huskies! It's scary enough that Thomas and Dentmon shoot the lights out, but when you add Jon Brockman's strength down the middle, there's almost no response to what Washington brings to the floor on a nightly basis. UCLA is definitely more tournament seasoned, but UW is just a better team.

California Golden Blogs:  Well, perhaps from our vantage point, having watched UW get swept by Cal and being swept by UCLA, we aren't as high as others on UW.  Our perceptions could be inaccurate.  Fair enough. 

But let's say the seeds go as planned and its UCLA-UW in the finals.  In LA.  Well, we've seen that already! 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=290500026

UCLA took the lead after 8 minutes and never relinquished it.    A few notes from the ESPN recap:

"The Huskies, who got to the line 43 times in their 86-75 victory over UCLA on Jan. 24, hit four of 10 free throws this time, while UCLA was 15-of-18."

That is a disparity Cal fans know all too well. 

"Aboya helped hold Brockman to just three field goals in the second half despite being affected by flu-like symptoms. A dehydrated Aboya required an IV after the game, something that was attempted at halftime but failed when a vein in his arm couldn't be located."

Aboya, one of UCLA's best players, was ill last time.  Prolly isn't ill this time.  Although sick with it, he's not ill.  So, that can only help UCLA again. 

Conquest Chronicles (Laughing Stock): Don't get me wrong, Washington is a very good team. But the way things have played out over the season it seems clear to me that there is no one dominant team in the Pac 10, just a bunch of good teams which makes it difficult to actually pick anyone to win the tournament. Besides, being so fashion conscious makes it so that I can't just pick the team that won the conference, and there is no chance I would pick UCLA to win it all on principle (ie bias) alone.

California Golden Blogs:  I think CC has basically put their finger on the button here.  There isn't anybody who stands heads and shoulders above the rest of the Pac10.  So, while it is conceivable than most any team could win it, you gotta go with the team with the home field advantage.  That's what we believe will put UCLA over the top here. 

In conclusion... did I unintentionally imply that UCLA would win the whole thing? I didn't mean to, but the fact of the matter is that they are the best team efficiency wise in conference and will have a home court advantage over every team (even SC as Trojan fans won't show up en masse like bruins fans will). Either way, USC has a chance, however slim it may be, to make the NCAA tournament or wrap up a 1 seed in the NIT.

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prediction

the Pac-10 tournament will fall by seed…until the Huskies are exposed by UCLA on Saturday.

by bill gray on Mar 11, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh Nuss

where is all the hilarious nonsense that I can find on the CGB version of this? I want hilarious nonsense!

This is where per game statistics go to die.

CougCenter

by Dancing Football on Mar 11, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

UCLA took the lead after 8 minutes and never relinquished it. A few notes from the ESPN recap:

“The Huskies, who got to the line 43 times in their 86-75 victory over UCLA on Jan. 24, hit four of 10 free throws this time, while UCLA was 15-of-18.”

Anybody who saw this game knows it was one of the most poorly officiated games of the season. UCLA was playing their usual “beat up the opponent” defense (like they played against WSU at Pauley to nearly make a comeback) and yet somehow they went something like the first 10 minutes of the game without having a defensive foul called on them. Hmmm.

Anyway, I think that this tournament is setting up for a UW/UCLA final. The Huskies got lucky in that Cal and WSU both fell to the other side of the bracket, and I think they’ll probably have the easiest run (which you’d expect for a #1 seed) to the title game. UCLA is going to have their hands full in the first two rounds with WSU (I don’t give Oregon much chance) and whoever wins the Cal/USC game, but I think they win both of those. And the championship game will, much like nearly every other Pac-10 contest, be decided by how the officials want to call it. Being in LA, I’d say that UCLA wins the championship.

http://www.spartyandfriends.com/

by thecassino on Mar 11, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why am I not shocked

that other teams’ fans noticed UW’s FT disparity as well?

by jj_fekl on Mar 11, 2009 2:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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