Zag Fan Coming in Peace: Looking at the Gaels
Hey guys, being that our Gonzaga blog, The Slipper Still Fits, has a monopoly over SBNation's coverage of the West Coast Conference, I thought I would stop by and give you guys a taste of what to expect in your opening round match up against the Gaels.
Listening to all the pundits (Dickie V) complain about St. Mary's not getting into the tournament really makes it clear to me that West Coast basketball is still relatively unwatched. I have had the distinct pleasure of watching Patty Mills and the rest of the Gaels this season and while they have an argument to be in the tournament, they better watch out for the first round of the NIT or else they'll have plenty of time to piss and moan from their couches.
Every serious college basketball fan knows who Patty Mills is. The kid is definitely a cool story as he is the only collegiate player that made a big splash in the Summer Olympics as he dazzled Coach K and the rest of the USA squad. Patty Mills in college basketball can be described as one word: streaky. If you look at his stats this season, you'll notice that he has games where he lights it up and he has had just as many games where he goes 5-20 or 4-19 and really hurts his team. The problem with Mills is that he can get hot, and Gonzaga saw it first-hand in the two team's first match up of the season. He was running circles around the Gonzaga defense and making every shot in sight before getting hurt. Is he 100% healthy for the NIT? No clue, but I do trust in the Cougar defense to be in his face for 40 minutes and really take him out of his element.
The rest of the backcourt for St. Mary's is pretty average. Carlin Hughes can make some big shots and Mickey McConnell has been improving but they are not the type of players that can go out and dominate a Pac-10 squad. Their guards, like the rest of their team, are very shallow and do not have a lot of depth. Aside from their big three of Mills, Samhan, and Simpson, there is not a whole lot going on.
The front court for the Gaels is impressive. Omar Samhan is a very serviceable center with a mean streak. He's had games where he has stolen the show from Patty Mills but he can counter that with being nearly invisible on the court. The guy to watch out for and my pick (like it matters) for WCC Player of the Year is Diamon Simpson. This guy is not going to wow you with his measurables. He's not that tall and not that bulky for a power forward but he has one of the largest motors in the nation. Simpson is tremendous around the hoops as well. He has got a great ability to absorb contact and create and-one situations. He has consistently torched the Zags because Austin Daye could just not match his intensity and will to win. For WSU, I like the idea of having Casto on him. Casto has got quite a bit of bulk and offers five fouls that will be necessary because Simpson is awful from the foul line. The Baynes/Samhan match up will probably be a wash.
The game will probably come down to the play of guys like Carlin Hughes and Ian O'Leary for the Gaels and the supporting cast for the Cougs. The key is to keep a hand in Mills face often if you can and try not to let guys like Hughes get off and score 10-15. If that happens, I don't like the outcome for you all. It will be interesting, I haven't seen St. Mary's beat a good, not mediocre, team this season (not counting Utah St. because they are not a good team). It'll be a fun game to sit back and watch as the teams run contrasting styles. I pick the Cougs in a tight one, but most of the reason for that is that I can't stand St. Mary's.
Good Luck! The NIT should be a great tourney to watch!
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Baynes/Samhan matchup
It will shock me if Samhan is able to defend Baynes straight up. I have seen a bit of Samhan and he is solid. I don’t see how he stops that little hook from Baynes. He doesn’t appear nearly as strong as Baynes and looks much slower. He has size though and if Baynes gets in foul trouble then who knows. When Baynes exits for Casto I would send Casto to the offensive boards hard. I think Samhan will have trouble with Casto’s quickness.
Forrest/Casto is an interesting matchup against Simpson. He will have his hands full with both. If Forrest is hitting his shot that will pull him away from the basket. Casto will match his energy although Simpson obviously has the experience edge.
Who picks up Patty Mills? Rotchestie or Capers? I think I would start out with Rotchestie initially and then rotate Capers over to keep Rotchestie fresh.
As BuffZag posted, I just haven’t seen much after those three for the Gaels. In all honesty, WSU has beat a much better “3-headed monster” in Wise/Budinger/Hill for Arizona who also has a superior supporting cast or even Harden/Pendergraph/? for ASU.
Come out focused and this could end up an easy win. Mills will have to play lights out for St. Mary’s to say the same. I know it sounds like I’m discounting St. Mary’s but I just haven’t seen a reason this isn’t a game WSU can win even on the road.
It seems the only one to beat Baynes
will be Baynes. That little hook of his can be deadly, but if it is going up like a J Locklier knuckleball, the Cougs could be in trouble. I don’t expect that to happen though.
I’m about to say something here that has probably never been written, spoken, heard or read anywhere … Baynes will beat Samhan with his superior footwork.
Baynes has improved so much over the last four years that his foot work is now very solid.
He has the ability to go both ways on his post moves and his fundamentals on defense are perfect.
This is where per game statistics go to die.
CougCenter
by Craig Powers on Mar 16, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Think about how many times
Baynes got into foul trouble last year… I think he might have done so once this season. I love the improvement in his game every single year. Real mark of a hard working dude.
by TiltingRight on Mar 16, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
A key, though, is going to be how the game is officiated
If Baynes or some of the other guys pick up some cheapies with St. Mary’s being aggressive out of the gate, it could be a very difficult night. What you don’t want in a game like this is something taking you out of your gameplan before you even really get going. It happened against Washington, and we definitely don’t want this to be one of those games where you end up looking back and wondering where it all went wrong.
by Jeff Nusser on Mar 16, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Only Donaldson
improved more as a big man. Think about it if Baynes didn’t get the ankle injury? He would have progressed even better.
We will miss him a ton next year.
I have thoughts as to how much we'll miss him
And sometimes I think it won’t be as much as we think. He’s an incredible defensive rebounder, but the motion offense functions more fluidly with more mobile big men. It’ll be interesting to see how the offense takes shape next year without him. We will most definitely be a more perimeter oriented team, that’s for sure.
by Jeff Nusser on Mar 16, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
That's why we will miss him
being perimeter oriented. How bad would the last UCLA game have been if we didn’t have Baynes to dump it down to? Not to mention Baynes was the only starter with a good FTR.
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CougCenter
by Craig Powers on Mar 16, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It's the contrast between the stationary/mobile big man
The motion offense is more fluid when the big men aren’t stationary. And don’t forget that Casto’s FTR was best on the team, even in his limited minutes.
by Jeff Nusser on Mar 16, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you saying that the shooters will be less susceptible to off nights if they are in more of a rhythm on the catch and shoot?
Rather than just standing and waiting for the pass? Because I would definitely agree with that.
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CougCenter
by Craig Powers on Mar 16, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
His freshman year was embarrassing. It really is amazing how much he has improved.
by displacedcoug on Mar 16, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
From the St. Mary's board
Libbey-ishis for tomorrow. All bets are off. ;)
Ugh
Libbey on national tv? Good god, I just hope we have the ball last.
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CougCenter
by Craig Powers on Mar 16, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
And can you link the board?
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CougCenter
by Craig Powers on Mar 16, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
A Pac-10 official in this game?
You’d think they’d fly in someone neutral. Does he work WCC games, too? I know a lot of guys work multiple leagues.
by Jeff Nusser on Mar 16, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope not
I’d hate to think he’s injecting himself into games and f’ing up two leagues every year.
by TiltingRight on Mar 16, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's one
http://godisagael.yuku.com/forums/2/t/Men-39-s-Basketball.html
I’m not sure if they have a scout or rivals site.
At his profile
on statsheet.com, it says his dominant conferences are the Pac 10 and West Coast. Maybe he is better when the lights aren’t as bright?
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CougCenter
I actually just saw that
16 games in the Pac-10, only 4 in the WCC. That’s his lowest in the WCC in years.
by Jeff Nusser on Mar 16, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
His 16 games must have all been on TV
I swear he finds a way to ref every single game played in the Pac 10.
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CougCenter
by Craig Powers on Mar 16, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Bad news from Libbey's statsheet
Among Pac-10 officials, his crews have the second-lowest home foul call margin — home teams average 3.8 fewer fouls than visitors in games he calls.
by Jeff Nusser on Mar 16, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
So the anecdotal evidence is true!
He just loves to play to the crowd.
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CougCenter
by Craig Powers on Mar 16, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions

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