Post Game: Disgusting
by Craig Powers on Mar 7, 2009 4:46 PM PST
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PrintFoul trouble on Klay, while Overton is grabbing jersey every play?
Awesome.
Where was Marcus Capers in the second half?
Way too much Nik. The Huskies knew EXACTLY who to leave open on the floor.
As a Coug fan, nothing annoys me more than the Huskies winning things. Especially considering how good our teams have been the last two years and we had no shot at the title because UCLA was an absolute powerhouse. Not to take too much away from UW though, they were clearly the best team during conference play this year.
Taylor and Baynes were fantastic. We were clearly the better team when Klay Thompson was on the floor (BigWood has his +/- at +29!).
Tony did what frustrated us so much earlier in the year. He stuck with the "senior" line-up down the stretch, going with TR, Forrest, Klay, Baynes, and Nik. Why Nik was on the floor down the stretch in favor of Capers, I have no idea.
I took a shower before the game, but I may need to take another one, because I feel gross.
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But there we clearly a better team when he was on the floor
This is where per game statistics go to die.
CougCenter
Ya, there was one game where he had a guy
at something like -24 at the half when the other team had less then 24. The numbers seem more extreeme then is possible sometimes.
they're all correct.
don’t know what to tell you.
+/- factors in points scored plus points given up, if I'm not mistaken
So if we outscore somebody by 15 when Nick Witherill is on the floor, and are outscored by 14 when he isn’t, then Witherill gets a +29.
Note: this is not a realistic example.
indeed
an example from tonight is we were +11 with KT on the floor and -18 when he sat, giving him a +29.
Oh that makes sense
So it’s not a “true” +/- as with hockey, where they only count for or against you when you’re actually playing.
http://www.spartyandfriends.com/
No it isn't
Hockey +/- doesn’t change if you’re not on the ice when a goal occurs.
http://www.spartyandfriends.com/
oh... my bad
then it’s not exactly like hockey :)
Yeah I got it now
It’s just not a stat I see a lot, so it seemed weird that one player could be such an outlier, especially given I was thinking it was like hockey.
http://www.spartyandfriends.com/
it's correct
in the 28 minutes Klay played, we oustcored UW by 11 points. In the 12 minutes he sat, UW beat us by 18.
Ok, its just a different stat then i thought
I thought, if he is on the floor for 28 minutes and we outscore them by 11, he is +11. I don’t see why we should be giving him another +18 for sitting.
because that is the true reflection of the game
when we’re outscored by 18 points in the 12 minutes klay sat is a much better representation than only showing the +11 he was on the court for.
Casto didn't play enough either
That bugged me, and Klay didn’t get any meaningful looks in the last few minutes. I’m frustrated about this but will get over it, barely. LMAO I love being a Coug!!! Overall, I’m really proud of this group of kids and will always have a few questions about Tony’s strategies, but that’s just 20/20 type of stuff. I’d take him anyday over any other coach in the country.
I hope we can make a good showing in Pac-10 tourney and earn an NIT berth. Go Cougs!!!
So, for seeding purposes....
Who to root for tonight? There is no way to get the 6, right? In that case just root for USC to clinch the 7?
If we get the 7th seed...
That means we get the #2 seed in the second round, right? Which would be Ucla. I’d rather play #1 Washington, beat them and then get Ucla in the finals. For me, I’d rather get the 8th seed. I love to get U of Me one more time. I know we can beat them.
I'm as frustrated and angry as anyone....
I hate losing to the dogs, but you’ve got to give it up for them as they beat a team that played very hard against them today.
We lost fair and square.
I wish we’d have seen what it was like to have Thompson in for most of the game.
I wish we’d have seen what it was like having Casto in there longer.
I wish that Capers didn’t get in foul trouble….and I wish we didn’t turn the ball over like we did.
I liked how hard we fought until the end. I liked our interior defense for much of the game…and how tough it was late in the game.
Honestly, I’d like another shot at the purple puppies in the Pac-10 Tournament.
We can beat them…if we just tighten up some things.
Tough loss…as I thought we had a reasonable chance to beat the dogs today. Argh!!
We have a great shot at beating them if we get a chance to play them
Their pressure was not a factor like it was the first game. We just have to overcome unforced errors and get good solid looks more often. Cut out the dumb mistakes and make the layins, stuff like that and we’re right there today.
I’d rather take my chance with Casto and Capers versus Kopravica any day of the week. It really hurt us to not have Klay out there but I blame him for the way he played D at times. IT was not a factor and neither was Denteen. Baynes didn’t get enough shots either. Just all the little stuff, we tighten it up a bit and we can beat anybody in our league.
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