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Grippi expands on losses of Boeke, Witherill

Vince Grippi has a nice peek behind the curtain regarding the losses of Fabian Boeke and Nick Witherill. Basically, it sounds like Boeke could really play but his body wouldn't let him, and Witherill just really couldn't play at all -- at least, not at a Pac-10 level.

How much would Boeke have helped last year's team?

The Cougars missed (Boeke's) presence last year. If he could have been healthy and able to match up inside, he would have helped the WSU attack considerably. Believe me, there was no better 3-point shooter on the Cougar roster last year. Boeke would stand at the 3-point line and rain down shots (I counted 22 consecutive from different spots one practice before being distracted, so that streak could have been longer) while the Cougars ran through half-court drills. But it was not to be.

How many times last year did we lament our lack of just one more legitimate 3-point threat? I don't even want to think about that anymore.

And a little more on Witherill:

Privately, Tony Bennett admitted Witherill didn’t fit. Though a great kid who worked hard, Bennett felt Witherill wasn’t quick or big enough to guard Pac-10 guards. So Bennett felt Witherill would be better off transferring somewhere he could get minutes. ... The conversation was coming, with Bennett saying he would do everything he possibly could to find a school that would be a better fit for Witherill’s talents. And a transfer would free up a scholarship Bennett knew he needed.

Last night, I'm afraid I might have made Tony Bennett sound like a bad guy with Witherill. I don't think that's true, and I believe what Grippi says. I just think the situation could have been handled much better.

If Witherill heads to Division II Grand Canyon University to play for former Arizona coach Russ Pennell -- who also was Witherill's AAU coach who convinced Bennett that Witherill was a good fit at a time that the program was still struggling -- he'll only have three years to play, where he would have had four with a redshirt. I just have a hard time believing that Bennett didn't realize all these things about Witherill before he burned his redshirt. It's not like he ever made it into a Pac-10 game.

Like I said, I don't think there was anything malicious going on there, but the way it ended up was unfortunate nonetheless. Perhaps the biggest mistake was that WSU ever showed interest in a borderline high-major prospect like Witherill in the first place.

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The whole redshirt situation this past season was frustrating.

I still have no clue why Tony felt it neccessary to use Harthun and Witherill only in mop-up duty. He had the chance to even out the classes a little more and did not. You can probably count the number of meaningful minutes Mike got on one hand and obviously Nick didn’t get any.

While that was questionable, it wasn’t all Tony’s fault. When Nick made the decision to come to WSU he was 16 at the time, but it wasn’t until he was a senior that he actually signed the LOI. He knew by then that the Cougs were signing three other guards in the same class, but he still wanted to come to Wazzu. I don’t blame him for wanting to take a shot at playing in a elite conference, but I’m not going to feel bad for him for losing a year of eligibility because of it. He had the chance to experience Pullman for free for a year and he will be a better person because of it. Not to mention he got to visit Pauley Pavilion, Mac Court, Hec Ed, the Mckale Center, KeyArena, and the Staples Center, etc. all as a player. Those are pretty cool experiences that a very small percentage of the population gets to have.

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by Dancing Football on Jun 3, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep in mind on Harthun

Bennett wanted to redshirt Harthun but Harthun absolutely did not want to redshirt. I don’t know what the case was with Witherill. After watching his high school video it was obvious even to a hack like me that he was not high major material. He’s a tough kid though and I am sure someone you want to see succeed. I wish him well as he moves on. These situations are not easy to see.

Players are so difficult to project to WSU and the Pac 10. We all probably have heard the stories on Kyle Weaver. Dick and Tony went round and round on whether to offer him. Now it is obvious it was a great choice but he wasn’t exactly a “can’t miss”. They had to take some chances. Some have worked out great while others have not worked out as great.

Now that Ken Bone is running the program you have to assume that he will need to get a certain type of player to run his system. Quicker guards, more athletic wings and forwards, etc. For instance, Bone wanted Lodwick and Enquist at PSU but do they fit in the Pac 10? Well Enquist received a ride and Lodwick is still with the team so maybe they do fit. I guess time will tell but you really can not have too many spots that aren’t good enough to perform unless you don’t mind taking OSUs place in the cellar. ;)

by BornCoug on Jun 3, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's U of O's place in the cellar now.

I never really liked the old tagline.

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by Dancing Football on Jun 3, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting stuff...

A few quick thoughts…

1. I thought that Boeke would have been a great option to shoot the last second 3 ball vs. UCLA in Pullman. I don’t think it was an option though with his injury.

2. As good of a talent evaluator as Tony was/is, the WItherall pickup was a major miss (obviously). He was offered very early, so perhaps he was expected to project with more upside. Too bad Tony burned his redshirt too. At least he can tell his kids someday that he played in a real game for a Pac-10 team. Not bad. Best of luck to him.

3. Coaches that make big bucks certainly show that they can make mistakes in many different ways.

by westsidecougar1 on Jun 3, 2009 5:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey sometimes when you don't think a kid will cut it you throw

him on the floor and see what happens. There are numerous stories where coaches were not convinced that a player could succeed and once given an opp to play they proved the coach wrong.
If I was Nick, I would have rather have been given at least a shot than be RSed and told that a coach didn’t believe I could compete at this level. At least he got some minutes, albeit not many, to try to show something.
Moreover, if I am Nick and believe I could still play DI ball somewhere, then I am going to want my RS option available. No one aspires to play DII ball, particularly after playing at the DI level. I would be contacting the mid-majors and seeing what interest I could get. He was on a Pac-10 roster with a quality coach. Pretty good resume material.

by ptowncoug3012 on Jun 3, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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