Take it to the bank: Lopina will get the nod
Well, I'm a little late to the whole Saturday scrimmage party at this point, but between being out of town all day yesterday, getting back at noon today, and then having my brother and his wife over for lunch/dinner this afternoon/evening, this is the first chance I've had to sit at a computer and digest all the coverage of yesterday's initial scrimmage of camp and reflect on its significance.
Most of the days reports focus on the same thing: The quarterback battle.
In a nutshell, Kevin Lopina looked sharp (6-of-6, 94 yards, TD), Marshall Lobbestael looked a rusty guy coming off reconstructive knee surgery (4-of-7, 34 yards), and Jeff Tuel looked like the kind of quarterback that could start next year and for the three after that (5-of-6, 74 yards with the 3rd stringers against the 3rd defense).*
*Before we go any further with this conversation, let's just get one thing straight: Tuel is not going to play this year, barring more injuries like last year or absolutely catastrophic play from Lopina and Lobbestael. He might look as awesome as awesome can be, but this staff values its redshirts. So, no comments below on how you think Tuel should go ahead and start as a true freshman. Ain't gonna happen. Don't even suggest it.
Clearly, one of those lines sticks out above all the others, and I'll go ahead and say it now: Lopina will be the starting quarterback against Stanford. And to be honest, I'm beginning to run contrary to the general line of thinking in Coug Nation and come around to the idea that it's not such a bad thing.
I think that a lot of our general bias against Lopina becoming the starter derives from the fact that he just doesn't pass our WSU eye test. We love our big, strong-armed quarterbacks. I remember during my freshman year fans chanting Ryan Leaf's name as Chad Davis threw what seemed like every 10-yard out to a defensive back. And we all remember the calls for Gary Rogers to supplant Alex Brink for three years, even as Brink was completely rewriting the record books.
Lopina is big (6-foot-3, 234 pounds), but he doesn't have the sexy quarterback build we've come to expect from our lineage of great signal callers. And about that arm ... watch that throw in the Apple Cup again to refresh your memory (at about the 3:00 mark). It took everything he had to throw the rock 55 yards. It was great that he made the play, but let's be honest -- a stronger armed quarterback who is able to put a little more air on that thing allows Jared Karstetter to walk into the end zone.
Predictably, the idea of Lopina starting this year is met with one giant, collective yawn. Give us Marshall Lobbestael, who, with his lanky build and silky smooth throwing motion, looks infinitely more the part. Give us Jeff Tuel, with that rocket launcher dangling from his right shoulder. Don't give us a guy who looks more like a linebacker than a quarterback -- a guy who's a senior, who's not going to pay any future dividends from playing in what figures to be another rebuilding year.
But it's starting to occur to me that we spend entirely too much time what Lopina can't do, rather than what he can.
Offensive coordinator Todd Sturdy said the starter would be the guy who gives them the best chance to win, detailing what exactly gives a player that quality (I'm paraphrasing):
- Commitment to the program and its goals.
- Dedication to the position's responsibility of being a full-time leader.
- A passion for football and a commitment to being the best he can possibly be at his position.
- He has to make plays.
Sound like anyone you know? Say, a guy who has publicly and vocally bought into Paul Wulff's program? A guy who stood up week after week to face the media in the wake of a string of embarrassing losses? A guy who played through a broken back because his team needed him? A guy who ripped his teammates after getting spanked by Stanford? A guy who has consistently been out in front as a leader in this camp, even though he hasn't officially won the job?
About the only thing that doesn't sound like Lopina to a T is No. 4, but even in that, I find Sturdy's choice of words intentional. Notice he didn't say he has to make "great throws" or has to "be a great passer." He's got to "make plays," something Lopina has shown he can do, whether with a timely throw or with his feet.
I felt from day one that if Lobbestael wanted this job he was going to have to take it from Lopina -- that he was going to have to display an exceptional ability to move the ball with his arm. That just doesn't seem to be happening. Sean over at WSUFB sums it up perfectly: "(A)fter eight practices and a scrimmage now in the books, the 'boy Marshall Lobbestael looks good' buzz has been noticeably absent from camp reports."
Don't let the most over-quoted statistic in the history of mankind -- 11 interceptions, zero touchdowns -- limit what you think Lopina is able to do. Yes, he occasionally showed questionable decision making that was exacerbated by the fact that his arm isn't strong enough to squeeze the ball into little spaces. But he did complete nearly 60 percent of his passes, and after a year in the system, he ought to make better decisions overall. That's not even taking into account how much healthier Lopina is now than he was at the end of last season.
There's just so much more to quarterbacking than making throws, and I think that's indicated not just in the characteristics Sturdy highlighted, but in the order he presented them. In the absence of a guy who can overwhelm us with his ability to do No. 4, I'll gladly take a guy who seems to be exceptional at Nos. 1-3 and merely average at the other.
If that guy is Lopina -- and I'd be willing to lay even money that it is -- I'm OK with that.
If you didn't catch all the coverage of the scrimmage from Saturday, here are the relevant links:
- WSUFB's Longball checked in with this first-person report from the scrimmage, with Sean Hawkins' analysis here.
- Vince Grippi had his story and notes.
Also, here's some other stuff:
- Grippi's report from this morning's practice, and his evening story, which leads off with the transfer of J.T. Levenseller.
- And, a weird story out of Moscow: DeMaundray Woolridge has resurfaced ... at the U of I with Robb Akey. If it seems like forever ago that he left WSU, it was -- 2006, to be exact. Weird.
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I hate to break your prohibition
but if Tuel gives the best chance to compete and win, and he is better than the other 2 guys, he should be starting. If the coaches refuse to start him simply because they love redshirting, they won’t be around long enough to ever see him play. I am not saying that Tuel is the guy, but what I am saying is that you can’t be absolute one way or the other with regard to redshirting.
USC is the place where it is done correctly. If you are better than the current guys at your position you will be starting regardless of age and don’t give me this incredible depth garbage. No one, I mean no one, including Carroll starts a frosh over a upperclassman unless the frosh gives them the best chance to win.
I guarantee what will tick off everyone more is that we lose our first 7 or 8 games, the coaches start worrying about their jobs, and bam in goes Tuel.
by ptowncoug3012 on Aug 17, 2009 8:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps I was a little too dismissive with the way I wrote that
Let me expand a little bit. It’s not just that this staff loves their redshirts, but after the debacle of putting quarterbacks into a new system last year, I have a hard time believing they will think that throwing Tuel in there — as a true freshman, no less — gives them the best opportunity to win. Additionally, it’s going to be a really tough, tough thing for Tuel to prove. He’s going to have to really outplay Lopina, and I don’t know that he’s going to get enough of a shot to do that.
by Jeff Nusser on Aug 17, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also don't buy that Wulff is truly in danger of losing his job
Unless the team is a complete and total embarrassment along the lines of last year. I suppose that’s possible, but I just don’t see it.
by Jeff Nusser on Aug 17, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think CPW would lose his job because we don't want to eat
his salary, but his assistants could lose their jobs. It is not unusual for an AD to tell the coach that things need to change and if it isn’t going to be a change at the HC then at the next level.
I agree Tuel will probably not get the opportunity to outplay Lopina, particularly with the Lobster getting needed reps.
by ptowncoug3012 on Aug 17, 2009 10:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Unless you realize you've made a colossal mistake in your hire
You’ve got to give a guy four years. Like I said, an embarrassment along the lines of last year might do that. But nothing this offseason would give you the indication that things are moving in the wrong direction.
by Jeff Nusser on Aug 17, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that you should give a guy 4 years, but assistants are generally on year to year
contracts if we go 0 for this year and look about as dysfunctional as last year, there will be changes, not at the HC level but asst level, I promise that and that is exactly what worries me. Coaches start becoming desperate and that is when you start getting freshmen played at the end of the year to save their backsides while sacrificing the future.
If Tuel is good enough to start over the other 2, and that is taking into consideration the ability to execute the no huddle, then I am all for him playing now, not later. But if he is simply a talented kid, but doesn’t have a grasp of the no huddle we better hope that we have a guy on the roster who’s capable of executing the no huddle at least somewhat efficiently.
by ptowncoug3012 on Aug 17, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
During the scrimmage
I think Tuel outplayed Lopina and Lobbestael. Lopina’s TD was one yard short and Tuel would’ve had a TD if his receiver fell right when he threw the ball. I think the coaches noticed this too because the very next practice Tuel was getting some time with the 1st team. I’m not against using a redshirt, but if he is playing better than he deserves to play. It’s not like Lopina and Lobbestael have a whole lot of experience in this system. Tuel ran the similar no huddle offense in HS and he was thrown into the starting position his senior year and led his team to become the conference champion. Just my two cents lol
by james_WSU on Aug 17, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hate to be the downer...
…..but neither Lopina or Lobbestael really excite me at all. If I had to choose I would go with Lopina just because he is a senior and usually they are less pron to make mistakes and Lobbestael is still recovering from surgery and it shows in training camp and we also can’t expect him to throw no TD’s this year like last . Also, you could have put Mark Rypien, Jack Thompson, Drew Bledsoe, Ryan Leaf, Jason Gesser or Alex Brink behind that OL last year and they all would have had the same results. Lopina gives us the best chance of winning and not being embarrassed every game…..but I will say he should be on a short leash, he starts the year horrible take him out and see what Lobbestael can do instead.
I do hope they redshirt Tuel and stick with it to let him learn the offense inside and out. This kid seems like he could be the real deal, he has a strong arm and he just looks like a QB, but he is young still. Let him sit, then start him 4 year and let him re-write the record books.
by spokanecougar on Aug 17, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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