POSTGAME THREAD: Finally, some hope
There are games where the final score doesn't tell the story. And there are games where it does.
This is one of those games that did both.
The Cougs were down 20-0 at the end of the first quarter. The game ended 27-6 thanks to a defense that came up with big play after big play -- including TWICE stopping USC on fourth and goal -- despite an offense that struggled for most of the game.
But it's those six points that will have us all talking all week long.
Many will wonder how it's possible to feel so good after a three touchdown loss. They don't know where we've been.
This team showed some serious heart and fight. And it served as the official coming out party of Jeff Tuel, Gino Simone and Travis Long, all of whom showed that they're not just playing out of necessity -- they're playing because they are Pac-10 level players right now.
Don't be ashamed to smile after this one. After wondering whether this team really was heading in the right direction, the answer is absolutely yes.
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Pretty sure that is a CougCenter record.
Congrats to all!
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Give the defense some credit
They showed a lot of life and made some plays. Contained the run after the first quarter a bit although they couldn’t do much to stop them through the air. Tuel will get all the talk but the defense showed some toughness to stick around and not simply cave @ SC.
Can't believe I'm so happy after losing by 21.
I’m trying not to get too excited about Tuel just yet. We were all so excited about Marshall after Portland State last year, but the dual threat aspect is hard to overlook. And the way the team responded to him was amazing to see.
Wow.
Also.
That was against PSU. USC is one of the top defenses in the country.
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
True that.
Still don’t want to get too excited after one game.
by TiltingRight on Sep 26, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
A huge improvement
Please take this in the spirit it’s intended: that was a big improvement over last year. The defense was stout, especially against the run, and Tuel looks like the real deal.
Perhaps WSU can succeed where SC failed and beat Washington (again!)
The funny thing is
we are WAY more excited about that game than you guys. And you guys won.
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that was kind of a no-win game for us. If we’d been able to put down the hammer, we’d have looked like assholes. Instead, since no-one on the east coast aside from me and Paragon stayed up for this, the Cougs night not even get the credit for the good play in the media.
Which would be a shame, because the credit was earned.
all due respect...
But there was that odd on-sides kick and a couple go-for-it-on 4th that made it appear that SC wanted to put the hammer down, asshole image be damned.
Clearly the better team won, but I wouldn’t say that anyone was serving up mercy tonight.
Maybe Pete Carroll just knew more than we did.
And he didn’t want to take any chances letting us hang around too long.
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
And I’m in Nashville DC Trojan. BOO LATE STARTS.
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t say that SC didn’t want to put down the hammer, I said they couldn’t. Big difference.
The going for it on 4th down is pretty vintage Carroll, but I was completely unimpressed by the onside kick, that was SEC-style bullshit at that point in the game.
I admit that I was 100% against throwing Tuel's redshirt away
But after seeing how bad and stale the play was behind Lobster, something had to change. Tuel came in and it felt like a switch flipped. It’s amazing how the game changed under Tuel’s leadership and how people just started playing harder.
Ladies and Gentleman, let me introduce you to your future, his name is Jeff Tuel.
Same here.
I’m glad he played well, because now Wulff cannot keep him out of the game.
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Right with you on pulling the shirt
agree on playing him today after the way Lobbestahl looked. I’m very glad how well it worked out though!
20-0 when Tuel came in.
But credit to the defense for stiffening up.
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
" After wondering whether this team really was heading in the right direction, the answer is absolutely yes."
That line made me smile even bigger Nuss :)
:)
Agreed 1,000 times.
This is way more exciting than that win last week.
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
So in that 4th quarter
Tuel: 15 yards rushing, 13-19 passing for 125 yards, one unfortunate pick returned 43 yards. Not too shabby for a true frosh against USC!
Simone: 8 catches for 83 yards!
Interesting Blog Stat
CougCenter game thread comments: 862
UWDawgPound game thread comments: 66
And they were playing an actually decently matched game, and have much more alumni than us. Just interesting.
We're always "louder" with this stuff
See: Flag on Space Needle.
by Jeff Nusser on Sep 27, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I had fun reading their post-game comments...
They seem to have no respect for the teams they play. “We’d have lost to Idaho playing like this” (no you wouldn’t have, you lost to Stanford because you couldn’t tackle their RB — who’s much more physically dominating than Idaho’s). “USC should have been up on the Cougs by 50 at halftime” (the same USC team you beat last week? How good do you actually think you are?) “After almost beating LSU…” (you weren’t even close, just a late 4Q TD when the game was in hand that made the final score look like you were)
Makes me glad that my alma mater’s full of more intelligent and thoughtful analysis. Even as a mostly-lurker, I really enjoy the honest insight gleaned from CougCenter. Keep up the good work, all!
Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.
by seattlecougar on Sep 27, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
Yeah, I think we definitely learned one thing last night: This is the worst USC team in years, and that Washington win over the Trojans is going to lose some of its luster as the year wears on.
How good does Washington think it is? A lot better than it should since USC isn’t as good as people thought, either.
We really played a lot better in the second half again
I don’t know what it is but we always seem to come out pumped up. I love it
we came out pretty well too.
USC just made some really nice plays in the first quarter.
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
After a 20 point first quarter
Definitley not bad at all.
I'm waiting for highlights on SC
I hope they actually show that we made some plays, including those two goal line stands.
Does anyone ever know what he says?
Other than “bleep”
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
"Why is he mad"
“I have no idea, just nod your head and carry on.”
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
SC wins EASILY
thats what they said on sportscenter, which I hate
Vote for Butch!
by spencer peaty on Sep 26, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
greetings from compton
This is surreal. We just lost by three touchdowns and the mood of everyone walking out of the stadium feels like we won by the same outcome.
SC is lvid. Cougs are encouraged. I’m happy…and not sober.
by BigWood on Sep 26, 2009 10:52 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Is there a better state in which to be?
by Jeff Nusser on Sep 27, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
By the way
A FanPost about the experience would be darn cool.
by Jeff Nusser on Sep 27, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
That second Barkley throw was ridiculous.
He got sandwiched and still delivered a strike.
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Really, there weren't any "highlight" type plays from the Cougs.
17 play drives that end in missed FGs don’t exactly make Sportscenter.
by Craig Powers on Sep 26, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd say that second fourth down stand was
Swarming and gang tackling against the vaunted USC defense.
By the way, how many missed tackles for us today? I don’t remember many … another big difference from last year.
by Jeff Nusser on Sep 27, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
The GF's point-of-view
So I finally got my girlfriend into Coug athletics (she had a crush on Rochestie) and she knows more about football than the average girl, but still not a ton. She’s learning every game and the players to look for. Today, she proved me with these nuggets:
- “The Tuel kid just looks more comfortable and I don’t feel like you’re going to get really mad everytime he messes up.”
- “Who is #89? He just totally tackled the crap out of that guy.”
- “You’re excited he threw the ball into the endzone?”
Well, Lobbastael/Lopina would have forced it and thrown an interception.
“Oh yeah, Lopina is the one who sucks, right?”
- “That announcer’s voice is giving me a headache.”
- “Weren’t the Cougs supposed to lose by 44? Does this mean that UW’s win is invalidated?”
- ME: Dammit, Stormo! Skylar Stormo. That sounds like a WWF wrestler.
Her: That sounds like a porn name.
Basically, even a girl who knows nothing about football noticed that Tuel is the god damned man.
Love the Cougs. And love her.
by Kyle Rancourt on Sep 27, 2009 12:53 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
I think Tuel is going to be great ...
… and that he is better than anyone else on the squad. Still disagree with the burning of the shirt. A coach in fear of his job has to make that move, but a full year of practice serves most developing QBs…and the teams they play on… very well.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
hope
the game last night… the change in QB… the defense starting to play… if we can just get the special teams fixed( was a problem last year )… hope and belief are starting to take hold. if we can just stay healthy this year … some more wins.
the dawgs
livivng on the west side … having to hear about the UW all the time – glad UW was brought back to earth by the trees!
If we did this against USC...
Gives me hope for some of the other conference games yet. These freshman studs are just going to get better with game experience, and for all the praise we were giving Lobster after he engineered that nice drive against SMU, Tuel looked like he could do it against anyone, at any time. That forced pass into double coverage at the goal line that resulted in the pick was unfortunate, but we’ll have to stomach those from time to time with a true frosh at the helm. He was reading plays well and at least twice I saw him scramble to pick up the first with nobody open and a lane in front of him. Was a little late to slide and avoid the big hit when well past the 1st down marker, but I have to think he’ll learn quickly there too.
USC is not looking good this year, especially when they’re not playing Barkley (makes me wonder what this game would have looked like if we’d faced Corp the whole time, not to mention Mays out), but that doesn’t change the fact that they’re STACKED with athletic specimens on both sides of the ball, and somehow the same team – plus a few freshmen – that looked physically pathetic in the first 3 games played competitively. Hard to cheer for a loss, but this was a loss that showed – as Nuss summed it up rather eloquently – this team is heading in the right direction. Absolutely yes.
Now if we could just come out of the gate for a game playing the way we did in the final 3 quarters yesterday. But even that’s a plus – it didn’t take until the second half for us to see something on the field worth cheering about.
Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.
this makes the whole sanchez leaving early fiasco make sense
“USC is not looking good this year, especially when they’re not playing Barkley (makes me wonder what this game would have looked like if we’d faced Corp the whole time, not to mention Mays out)”
The Future
Taking your first snap in the Collesium against one of the best defenses in the college football and watching your starting quaterback get sacked 4 times would be a lot to take in. Tuel shows promise which is something that we cant say about any other qb on wsu’s roster. Getting thrown into the ring like that proves that he can handle it. He’ll only get better once he is the one getting all the reps and continuing to practice with the #1 offense. Him and Simone will be a dynamic duo. Can’t wait to see what the next 4 years hold.
I watched the game again today
Remember the play where Tuel fumbles the snap, picks it up and runs for 8 yds? Will Harris (#26) from USC makes the tackle. He then stands up slowly, pressing Tuel’s helmet down a little, then steps over Tuel onto his left arm. When Tuel protests from the ground, Harris turns around and talks s**t.
Classy, guy.
Totally saw that play
But I was more impressed at the way Tuel started to protest, saw that nothing was going to come of it either way, and went about his business of calling the next play. The guy was a d*ck but Tuel kept his composure.
I was firmly in the ‘keep his redshirt’ camp for the long run benefit of the program. But after one series it was clear that he not only deserves to play, he gives us the best chance to win TODAY, we need him out there on the field now just as we do Simone and Long.
Wow. So happy for CPW, hope they can keep this going, and how the h&ll good is Tuel going to be?? Go Cougs!

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