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Again, refer to Nuss' post below.

I will offer a counterpoint, though, which is this: maybe we aren't 20 points better than anyone. Just like Cal raced out to a ridiculously early 20 point lead Thursday, the Golden Bears just weren't that much better than us (in Pullman, anyway). The shooting regressed, the game tightened up, but ultimately the better team won. I feel a lot like that's what happened again tonight.

It's disappointing, but I'd rather be the team that almost blows games than actually blows games. Of course we're all frustrated by the breakdowns that cause us to get into these situations. Say what you want about the possible mental issues (lack of intensity, thinking the game is over), I think Nuss hit it spot on when he said the problem was defense. Like Thursday when I said we couldn't string enough stops together to overtake Cal's offensive machine, tonight we couldn't string together enough stops to put the game away.

Stanford got the aid of a five-point possession (shades of 2004) - one that got Ken Bone t'd up for reacting to - but honestly the game shouldn't have been close enough to where that possession mattered. Ultimately, it didn't, thanks to Reggie Moore's clutchiness down the stretch.

At the risk of turning this site into harpingonpac10refscenter.com, I feel like now the Cougars are on the wrong end of judgment calls for a simple psychological reason. Say you're a ref - scared out of your mind that you have to go to Pullman to face a crowd out for blood, and willing to go off at you if you make a call against them. The conference will tell you: Don't give in. Don't let the home fans dictate how you make calls, no matter how riled up they are. Now, as an impressionable, scared ref, you head into the game trying to make absolutely sure you don't appear biased to the home team. Not coincedentally, the benefit of the doubt goes to the road team. Stanford slams a ball on the ground? No T. Ken Bone slaps the scorer's table? T. All in the name of unbiased officiating. Studies have shown refs will try to "even" up the game; they favor the team trailing on the scoreboard, or the team trailing in foul margin. Nowadays, it seems like they will even favor the team on the road, because there's the time-honored tradition of home court advantage. Whatever.

Bone stated after the game it may be time to "shake up" the line-up. Not sure I like the sound of that - don't we already know which players are producing the best results for our team? Of course, if the shake-up means more Abe Lodwick and James Watson, I'm all for it.  But then who loses minutes? Nik? Thames? They've both proven to be valuable assets. This team has a huge test coming up with three on the road - two in Los Angeles to start, and ending with the hated Huskies. Whatever tinkering might be done needs to be done in a timely and effective manner.

Player of the Game: Klay Thompson. Not sure what Bud Nameck was doing giving this award to Charlie Enquist (no offense), as Klay controlled this game with 27 points on 11 of 20 shooting. He added 3 boards and 3 blocks. Now if only he could get back to his old three-point clip (he was 3 of 10 tonight), we'd be in business.

Unsung Hero: Nikola Koprivica. Early on in the season, it was always Klay and Reggie sweeping these awards. Now Nik is staking a strong claim towards unsung hero of the year. Another ho-hum, 10 point, 8 board effort for someone listed at 'guard'. And he was also 3 of 6 from the field, including 2 of 4 from three.

Play of the Game: Sorry, everyone. Providing the good people of Pullman with their prescription medications prevented me from seeing the game in person. You'll have to fill me in on this one.

It was over when... I think it had to be Reggie's final two free throws to bring the game to its final score with 13 seconds to play.

Stat of the Game: How about the Cougars' 10 to 1 advantage in blocks? Now that's what I call a block party! ZING! Sincerely, Rick Reilly.

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Play of the game

The play of the game had to be Capers HUGE block on a Stanford fast break. Capers got in position under the basket and Mann on Stanford came in for a two handed slam and Capers still swatted the ball into the Stanford bench. I’ve seen a player going for a two handed slam getting stuffed, but not the ball being thrown into the stands. A huge block that halted the momentum of the Cardinal a bit.

by Gingervitis Coug on Jan 16, 2010 8:55 PM PST reply actions  

Grady probably would have made this a play of the game

If we could have seen it. But luckily there is boxing on FSN tonight, so that’s good. Not that there is anything wrong with light middleweight boxing.

by 02Coug on Jan 16, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Bone's frustration is with turnovers and I thinking he was

pointing the finger at Reggie. Thames had 5 assists and no TOs while Reggie was 6 and 4 (or 3).
I wish I knew what we are trying to do defensively. It seems to be his philosophy that we will play multiple types of defenses, including full court press. Jack of all trades, master of none. I think this is hard to do at the college level where kids only get 20 hours of practice time.

by ptowncoug3012 on Jan 16, 2010 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

Except....

We played straight man with only a few possessions of 2-3. It’s not jack of all trades, master of none, but rather trying to learn a new defensive system while keeping some of the old one.

by Brian Floyd on Jan 16, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Smile

Didn’t Stanford beat Tony’s Team earlier this year?

by PDXCoug on Jan 16, 2010 10:15 PM PST reply actions  

Yes

But Tony also has Virginia as the only unbeaten team in the ACC. He hasn’t played the top teams yet, but he is doing good things in Virginia it appears.

by 02Coug on Jan 16, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Virginia is ranked higher than us in Kenpom

56th to our 100th. That’s going to go up, too, after they absolutely creamed Miami tonight.

Funny stat: The Cavaliers are “only” ranked 118th in adjusted defensive efficiency, but 24th in adjusted offensive efficiency. And they’re 326th in tempo. :-)

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 16, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

The less I care about Virginia, the happier I am

I also don’t know who this ‘Tony’ character is

by Grady Clapp on Jan 17, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I am 100% with you

I’m sad that nobody burned him in effigy like they did with Lane Kiffin. We really dropped the ball on that one.

by Couginthepink on Jan 17, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Well Nuss, apparently Coach Bone still reads Cougcenter

This is an excerpt from the Tacoma Newstribune and Howie Stalwick:

“Senior forward Nikola Koprivica added 10 points and eight rebounds, and when Bone spoke about possible lineup changes, he may have been thinking of Koprivica starting in place of Abe Lodwick, who again went scoreless.”

This team does need to get off to quicker starts and this might be a way to do that.

by Coug1990 on Jan 17, 2010 9:13 AM PST reply actions  

slow starts

seem more related to moore TO’s, Klay TO’s and missed shots, and posting Casto up 1 on 1 and watching him get blocked or force a TO. Do that 5 out of 6 times to start a game and you’ll be down 10-2 against every team in the conference. I’m all for Nik starting and think he should but I’m not sure that fixes the slow starts. One thing I will say about Nik this year is he has a calm over him and it is pretty sweet watching him play this well.

And on a side note at the start of the season I made a post about reasons why I thought we could finish top 3 in conference. Two of those reasons were Reggie Moore playing like a freshmen of the year canidate and Nik playing like Detmon from UW (i.e. big senior year after poor soph/jr). Well I think we are getting about as close to that type of performance as we can expect out of those guys. Now we just need our stars to step up.

by donkeyjon12 on Jan 17, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm pinning the Stanford comeback on Nuss

From the game thread:

Also, I’d like to reintroduce Stanford to the No. 10 spot in my power rankings.

Followed by Stanford coming to play in the second half.

by Brian Floyd on Jan 17, 2010 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

I'll own it

And Stanford and Oregon are going to be locked in tight battle.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 17, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know how the Cougars ever lost to the Ducks

I would think that only an act of God (or people who think they’re Gods) could keep the Cougars from beating the Ducks.

by Coug1990 on Jan 17, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, an act of god and people who think they're gods

It was a sarcastic reference to the end of the game of course. We all know the game was stolen from WSU. Unbelievable the out of body experience that Porter had. He scored 11 points in 38 seconds. That is impressive.

by Coug1990 on Jan 17, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

something is wrong with this team.

In spite of Bone giving lip service to playing defense, we are NOT playing defense, and it pisses me off. We are giving up too many open shots. Our offense looks like gymrat most of the time; we aren’t setting screens to get open shots. We just crash in to the middle and get charges called against us. . How can we come out with “no intensity” in pac 10 games? Inexcusible. We are getting out-rebounded and out-hustled. Lodwick is giving us Nothing; he can’t score, and he’s too slow on defense and boards. Casto is erratic. We are also making too many bonehead mistakes and turnovers. The technical at the end of the Oregon game was due to stupidity on our part ; a lack of discipline. We need to shape up, and soon.

by bpcoug53 on Jan 17, 2010 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

The sky is falling!

Bone can’t coach and were terrible! Did I cover it all?

Relax. They play defense its just different than Bennett ball. The offense is different too. Believe it or not we run sets and have an efficient offense. The team is young and has lapses. Lodwick brings things to the table. He plays D fine at the 4 and rebounds.

Believe it or not all you points have been covered here before.

by Brian Floyd on Jan 17, 2010 1:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Agree with cougfan

There was something wrong with ASU as they lost their first two pac 10 games and now haven’t lost since. There was something wrong with the uw, now they swept Cal and Stanford. I could go on. Every team in the Pac 10 has been inconsistent this year and I am sure short-sighted fans have made similar arguments that you have.

by Coug1990 on Jan 17, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

That's probably the best way to put it

Some of what bpcoug53 mentioned has to do with youth, some has to do with personnel. I don’t think it’s as bad as he/she makes it sound, but there are some issues here.

I think Grippi nailed it this morning. It’s not that we don’t play defense; it’s that we don’t play hard defense for 40 minutes.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 17, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

i had some ideas on the defense

More about why guys are able to get hot on us but I’d really like to see it in TV before I make any judgments. I think the reasons guys are shooting well on it have to do with pressure or rhythm. Good shooters can hit shots with a hand in their face if they are taking them in rhythm. Bad shots come under diress late in a shot clock or with high ball pressure. I don’t think were pressuring enough, allowing guys to shoot in rhythm instead of forcing it.

I haven’t seen a live game in a while, though, so I’m not sure

by Brian Floyd on Jan 17, 2010 2:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I haven't seen a game in a couple of weeks.

But from what I’ve seen the defensive schemes are sketchy. Notwithstanding the youth, going from 1st to 10th in the conference in D is very disconcerting.

by Coug Friendly Canuck on Jan 17, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

i dont think its all scheme

I feel like some of its effort. From the sounds of it were closing out but guys are shooting in rhythm. Even with a hand up guys are more likely to hit shots when in rhythm or when help is late. It may be some scheme but were caught not pressuring enough, allowing guys to get in rhythm.

I never expected us to have a Bennett like D but we should be more of a ball press team and that comes down to effort

by Brian Floyd on Jan 17, 2010 2:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Agree

This team is so young and actually has a very good record. Defense and taking care of the ball gets better with experience. We still have a shot at the top three in the Pac 10 and while I’m hoping for that I still realize that this young team will have to mature greatly in order to achieve that. Next year this team should be a top three team in the Pac 10 assuming Klay stays. The next three games are critical if we can with 2 of them I think we have a great chance to place in the top three but winning only one puts us most likely in the 5-7 range.

by brinkislikevickheabusesdawgs on Jan 17, 2010 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

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