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Washington State 67, USC 60

Still in shock/euphoria that we have happy charts tonight:

 

Cougars vs Trojans SBN Recap

We have seen some surprising outcomes this season. Without a doubt, Seattle U's 99-48 thrashing of Oregon State comes to mind. So does Charleston's upset win over North Carolina. Still, nothing - at least from WSU's standpoint - may top the second half of this game.

USC's defense is good. Really good. Coming into tonight, they were the #1 defense in the nation in adjusted defensive efficiency. They give up the least points per possession in the country, too: 0.87. That was the main reason the Trojans came in as 10 point favorites by Ken Pomeroy and around 8 point favorites by the bookmakers out there. This was a game the Cougars weren't supposed to win.

And for a half, the prognosticators would've been right. The Cougars took a Colt .45 to their own foot, turning the ball over numerous times and giving up transition basket after transition basket - Vince Grippi tallied the points off turnovers for USC at 12 by the time intermission came. That put WSU in a ten point hole, with little hope of climbing out against a stout defense and a team that limits possessions.

However, the Cougars have been a Jekyll and Hyde team in halves this season, and, fortunately for us, the second half was the Cougs' better half tonight. Actually, that's an understatement. This may have been the best offensive half the Cougars have played all season - possibly in years - after USC expanded their lead to 15, early in the 23rd minute. In fact, over the final 8:41, the Cougars missed just one shot (hat tip to Grippi - seriously, folks, go out and get a Spokesman subscription) on their way to rallying for a seven point win. Nikola Koprivica drained all three of his second-half three point attempts, Reggie Moore paced the Cougar offense in the lane, and Klay Thompson was solid, without needing to carry the weight of the team on his shoulders (for a change). If WSU hadn't bricked 12 free throw attempts (58.6% shooting from the line), the game may have been even turned into a double-digit win.

When the dust settled, the Cougars had shredded America's best defense, 43-26, in the second half. Now that's a win to get excited about.

Player of the Game: Reggie Moore and Nikola Koprivica (tie) - First, Sam the Eagle Kevin O'Neill on Reggie, who scored 21 points, with six assists: "The kid that killed us was Moore. He took us apart. We just didn’t keep the ball in front of us." And, what else can you say about Nik, who has gone from whipping boy to cult favorite, even among the most fairweather Cougar fans. 13 points on 3 of 4 shooting with 5 boards and 2 assists.

Unsung Hero: Klay Thompson. You won't see a lot of love for Klay's performance, but we really shouldn't be taking this sort of night for granted. Hence the unsung hero award. 20 points on 7 of 15 shooting, 6 rebounds and only one turnover. He also made his free throws fairly consistently (5 of 7).

Play of the Game: I'll take the Koprivica three to give the Cougars the lead, 54-53, with 4:15 to play. Although the Capers dunk that followed on the next possession was also a favorite.

It was over when... Dwight Lewis missed the first of three free throws (seriously, D, don't ever foul on a three-point shooter again in that scenario) with 23 seconds to play. Had he hit all three, USC would have made it a two possession game. And, yes, it is sad that we can't relax until we have a three possession lead with under 20 seconds to play.

Stat of the game: This is why Jeff Nusser is the MVP of our blog. From his twitter feed: USC is No. 1 nationally in defense with .87 points per trip allowed; WSU scored 1.38 in second half.

It's a good night to be a Coug fan.

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6 players played the majority of the minutes.

Klay had 37 minutes, Moore had 36, and Casto had 31. Still not good at all.

I still am not sure why Charlie is used over Watson. In 7 minutes, Charlie barely avoided recording a trillion, pulling in a rebound, while Watson only played 2 minutes with 2 points and an offensive rebound.

It was good to see this team fight and finish it, though. This could be a road win that pulls them together.

by cougfan on Jan 22, 2010 12:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well, I can tell you one thing I saw out of Watson that I didn't like

His defensive rotations were atrocious, especially when in the zone.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 22, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That makes sense in regards to why he didn't see time

I wasn’t paying that close of attention when he was in the game and missed it.

by cougfan on Jan 22, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

More on bench minutes

From Grippi:

WSU played seven guys more than 13 minutes and Charlie Enquist 7 more. USC played seven guys more than 13 minutes and Marcus Simmons 5 more. But after the game there was a lot of talk from the Cougars about their deep bench and how they wore down the Trojans, who aren’t as deep. Interesting.

by cougfan on Jan 22, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They certainly played like the fresher and more well-conditioned team

I couldn’t believe Casto played 31 minutes. While I still think there are problems with his knee, he was an absolute warrior in the second half. Had just one short trip to the bench.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 22, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't have expected him to be able to go 31 minutes

I’m really hoping he doesn’t break down if it is bothering him.

by cougfan on Jan 22, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

Fanfreakingtastic. Good thing this wasn’t on TV, or else I might have had a heart attack.

by jfbjr1 on Jan 22, 2010 12:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not being on TV

To bad Fox Sports has some love affair with UW and cannot show any other Northwest team on Fox Sports NORTHWEST (although it should be Fox Sports Seattle). So far we have had more Pac-10 games not on TV than we have had on TV. That says right there how horrible the TV contracts for this conference are.

by ajs8026 on Jan 22, 2010 1:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

i agree

Techically, we’ve had 4 games on tv and 3 radio only, but one wasn’t on FSN, it was on that comcast channel.

We could have every conference game on tv without even re-doing our FSN contract. Do what the Big 10 and ACC do and stagger the schedule.

Every week have four teams play thurs/sat, four teams play fri/sun and stick the rivalry game that week wherever it fits on the weekend. Its not rocket science.

by BigWood on Jan 22, 2010 10:05 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

No, its common sense.

Which has no place in the Pac ten.

by jj_fekl on Jan 22, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Crazy game

Great analysis. I’m just glad that the guys played hard and came from behind to get the win.

by AlexWSU on Jan 22, 2010 1:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Awesome game!!!

Great write up to. I watched most of the game on the channelsurfing.net feed. It was difficult being forced to watch replays of every good play by USC but totally worth it in the end. I just wanted to say… I think its worth mentioning that we played pretty solid defense for most of the game. If it wasn’t for the 15(!!!) offensive rebounds , 5 or 6 of which were easy tip ins, by USC the Cougs could have ran away with it. The skeptics will say USC isn’t a great shooting team but the Cougs held them about 7% below their usual eFG%. Definitely not trying to take anything away from that 2nd half offensive output, that was awesome!

All is well in the Pac-10 today, at least until Sat.

by 907coug on Jan 22, 2010 3:15 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Can't believe I mimssed that last 15 minutes of this.

Family birthday last night allowed me to only watch the first half + a few minutes of the 2nd. Didn’t see the final score till this morning. Very happy at the comeback.

Oh, and how big has Reggie Moore been this year? We lose Taylor and this guy comes right in a just generates production night after night.

Great coverage, as usual, CougCenter.

"A bad day at the race track is better than a good day at the office."

by MattGSeattle on Jan 22, 2010 7:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Nik having the play of the game

When down by a large deficit and making a run, the hardest bucket is usually the one to take the lead. It is hard getting over the hump. I have seen many times a team make a comeback, but could never get that basket to go ahead.

Big shot by an experienced player.

by Coug1990 on Jan 22, 2010 8:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

This is big

This is so great for a now 4-3 team (or 5-2). Just 1/2 game back in the Pac. Here is hoping Cal, ASU and WSU separate themselves from the rest of the field and hopefully garner some at large bids.

by bucherbp on Jan 22, 2010 9:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

if i could make a suggestion

It’s almost the end of january. Can we as a group call for an end of discussion of last-year-nik?

by BigWood on Jan 22, 2010 9:55 AM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

indeed

I think post-game yesterday, it shocked me that people were still bringing up the “last year he was the worst pac-10 player ever” and the like…

The reason I brought it up was taking a page from LL and USSM, if you whine about the adam jones trade now, the commenters will ridicule you unmercifully as there’s no point in bringing it up anymore. I was making a suggestion to apply a similar rule here :)

by BigWood on Jan 22, 2010 10:12 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Better than Lincecum...mention him and you're boxed

I agree, though, old Nik is dead to me, unless you mean freshman Nik….in which case he’s back.

by cougfan on Jan 22, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh right

The morrow lincecum thing. I knew there was a big one I was forgetting.

by BigWood on Jan 22, 2010 10:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Same kind of deal as Nik

We don’t mention the moves of the old FO and we’re happy with the new FO.

Oh, and Nik’s the man.

by cougfan on Jan 22, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Personally, I was never down on Nik last year

He was not a great player, but he still had a high basketball IQ. Some players take longer to recover from serious injuries. He is one of those players.

by Coug1990 on Jan 22, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I said that once

in yesterday’s thread because I truly am amazed at how good Nik has been this year. To me, it’s no different than if Morrow suddenly became a top-10 SP after having had a 5 BB/9 and having thrown 90% fastballs for the earlier portion of his career, and a commenter said “hey, remember when we all ragged on management for having drafted him over Lincecum … he’s really come around.” It’s not like someone just saying over and over again that Morrow sucks and that they should have drafted Lincecum. What they get ticked off at at USSM and LL is pointing out things that are only negative, can’t be changed, and are irrelevant to the player the team has now. Saying one time that Nik has been great this year, while alluding to how awful he was last year (I recall 3/4 of his possessions being a charging call or other TO) doesn’t seem too crazy to me. It’s been a big turnaround for him this year and I’m honestly amazed by it.

by Fractal on Jan 22, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't say that about Nik

What happened with him is unique. He showed brilliance his freshman year, had a really bad knee injury that took two years to heal, and is now showing what he truly is. The change in system also helps him, allowing him to be a little more free on offense. It’s not like he was nothing and now he’s something. The injury really hurt his game and it’s taken til now for him to get it back to where it was when he came in.

by cougfan on Jan 22, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

your opinion is valid

i don’t agree that he was as bad as a lot of people want to think he was, but to each their own.

we’ve just discussed it ad nasuem all last year, all off-season and all november and december. there’s nothing new to say about it. anything said about it now is just piling on and kind of unfair to nik.

by BigWood on Jan 22, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds good

No more 2008-Nik bashing here. I’m glad the 2009 – 2010 version is doing so well.
The team really needs it.

by Fractal on Jan 22, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

One thing I noticed

And I did quite the double-take: We shot a HIGHER FT percentage than USC, 58% to 57%.

by jj_fekl on Jan 22, 2010 10:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is it unrealistic to think

That we might only lose 2 more games? I’m thinking at Cal and then either at UW or against ASU at home (possibly both, but I think we will get one of them)

Klay Thompson is my man crush

by crimson and gray on Jan 22, 2010 10:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, it's unrealistic

But that’s why you’re a fan. ;-)

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 22, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair Enough

Dang my homerism! Where would you put the over/under for loses the rest of the regular season?

Klay Thompson is my man crush

by crimson and gray on Jan 22, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't even begin to guess

I know that’s kind of a cop out, but after what you saw last night, would you want to try and figure out which games this team is going to show up for, and which ones it isn’t?

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 22, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard enough to figure out what half they are going to show up for

let alone games. I guess I’ll give you a break on this one! I’m more optimistic today then usual because of the defense we played yesterday. That might have been more of statement to how average USC"s offense is however.

Klay Thompson is my man crush

by crimson and gray on Jan 22, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the dribble drive for us, and not them

was the entire difference in the second half. Moore collapsed the SC defense and had Gerrity in a tizzy, chasing and reaching. At the other end, the denial of the lane flummoxed the SC guys rotations to an almost humorous degree. They were finger pointing and blaming and yakkin’ at each other w/ each awkward possession. SC’s signature win over Tenn. was entirely built on Gerrity’s surprise addition and Pearl’s lack of adjustment to stop his penetration. In a twist our 2nd half was a carbon copy of that… Reggie was too quick for Gerrity on top and the dish or shot off the drive was beautiful. Reaching help and a lack of defensive foot movement were telling for SC as well. Also- while Casto had a bad night offensively (3 shots); his superior up close defense on the big Russian dude (forgot his name right now) caused many misses. I think that guy was 0-fer from the field. Also he got awy with several walks created by body up D by DeAngelo. Nik is really floating to the open creases wherever they develop and it helps a lot as our young guys still stand around a lot watching Reggie and Klay. Great win! Every time I go to Galen the Cougs win! Fun for this ol’ Coug.

If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.

by hollyweirdcoug on Jan 22, 2010 11:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Grippi, please call up TB and ask if he saw Moore play at all

How was this guy missed. I know he lacks on defense, but it is amazing what a PG can do for a team. UW has been benefiting from solid PG for years (Robinson, Thomas).

by ptowncoug3012 on Jan 22, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He wouldn't have come here with Bennett's system

Moore has no leash, which is what makes him dangerous. In Bennett’s system, he’d have a short leash. The blocker mover isn’t made for a PG like Moore.

by cougfan on Jan 22, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not his offensive play that would've been a problem.

Admittedly it’s not the greatest system for a dribble-penetrating point guard, but the real issue would have been on the defensive end. There’s no way that TB would’ve recruited a guy who’s that awful defensively.

by Coug Friendly Canuck on Jan 22, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Defense can be taught

Remember, Bennett would run practices where it was entirely defensive sets. Beginning of the season practices were typically almost all defensive and the split during the season would be something like 70-30. Defense is all effort and given the system, Moore would be forced to put all that effort he has now on the offensive end into defense. There’s little chance that he would have considered WSU given the system we had.

by cougfan on Jan 22, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not about learning the D with Moore

TB would go NUTS at the lack of effort. Technique can be refined if you show any desire to play D. Reggie goes long stretches if you wonder if he’s even really trying….

by TiltingRight on Jan 22, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You are exactly right

Moore even said it earlier in the year, athough I’m too lazy at the moment to look it up. But he would not have even considered WSU under Bennett’s system. So it is not a matter of TB missing Moore, or missing any Seattle players. The players on this side of the state would not consider WSU under that system according to Moore, which changes with Bone as coach. We’ll see if he can continue to get players like Moore from the Seattle/Tacoma area, but he is one heck of a start.

by 02Coug on Jan 22, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If that was the case we would have never got KT. Maybe TB just thought

Moore was a lazy defender and therefore didn’t want to waste his time. From Moore’s comments it appears that he has a ton of character and is willing to work on his game and maybe TB never bothered to talk to the kid after watching his defensive effort.
TB envisioned opening his offense moore and moore (pardon the pun), and I think Moore would work just fine in TB’s system. Distributes the ball well, can penetrate, and has a nice outside shot. TB’s system wasn’t anti-penetration, it was really because we didn’t have the guys who could break a guy down one on one with the dribble. Although Weaver really developed that late Jr. and Sr. year.

by ptowncoug3012 on Jan 22, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not exactly

Keep in mind that when we hooked Klay, he wasn’t the Klay we know. He absolutely blew up his senior season, after we had been on him and got a verbal.

Moore wouldn’t work in Tony’s system. It’s not a freelance system. The sets are very structured, moreso than the motion offense. The dynamic part of the system is based on cuts off of the blockers screens. It’s also not a dribble drive offense, which is where Reggie’s game is. If Reggie was running the offense, he wouldn’t be scoring like he is, he’d be managing. Try to convince him to come play when that’s the case.

I don’t think this is a case of Bennett not knowing who Moore is, but do think it’s a case where Moore didn’t consider us until Bone stepped in.

by cougfan on Jan 22, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To back up what cougfan says

Moore wouldn’t consider us. It has nothing to do with Tony looking or not looking at a player like Moore, it has to do with convincing a player who has never been forced to slow down, manage a game, and spend all their energy on defense to come and try that.

Klay is a seperate story. First, my point was that Seattle kids didn’t really consider WSU if they had other options. Klay isn’t a Seattle kid. While he would have gotten to know Tony and our system, he wouldn’t hear about choosing WSU from his friends as they don’t know WSU from WSU (Weber State, Wichata State, etc.). Second, we went after Klay early before others wanted him. I’m not sure we get him if a score that played faster then Tony’s system and was a major conference was after him at the same time.

by 02Coug on Jan 22, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the first time

that I’ve seen a lead safeness line for both teams.

by jj_fekl on Jan 22, 2010 1:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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