OPEN GAME THREAD: UCLA @ WSU
UCLA Bruins at Washington St. Cougars, Feb 18, 2010 5:30 PM PST
And now, a CougCenter public service announcement from Nuss.
So, in the wake of our little refocusing of community standards at the beginning of the week, there were a number of questions about what is and is not acceptable on a game thread. Let's bring some clarity to that before the game breakdown.
First off, we recognize game threads are a different animal. Emotions play a large role in the watching of games, as they should -- it's why we watch in the first place, obviously. So to expect those emotions to not come out as the game unfolds in the game thread isn't reasonable. People get excited, people get pissed, and it's all good ... if done correctly.
Contrary to what some people seem to believe, it is possible, in fact, to vent and move the conversation forward at that same time. And that's our expectation.
Encouraged
- "DANGIT (insert guy's name)! That was a really stupid shot with that much time on the shot clock!"
- "Why is Bone bringing (insert guy's name) off the bench now? I don't like him in this personnel grouping."
Unacceptable
- "DANGIT (insert guy's name)! You always shoot the most horrible shots. Why do you suck?"
- "Why is Bone bringing (insert guy's name) off the bench now? He's terrible. Always has been."
Got it?
I guess the best way I can put it is like this: Participating in the CougCenter game thread should be like sitting in a big living room with the smartest fans you've ever met and watching the game with them. While it's OK to have emotional outbursts from time to time, nobody wants to hang out with the guy who constantly talks trash about the players, coaches, refs and repeats his criticisms ad nauseam. First of all, it's obnoxious, and nobody likes obnoxious people. Second of all, a smart fan doesn't do that.
So, don't be that obnoxious guy on the game thread, OK? If you came to my house and acted that way, you wouldn't be invited back. If you do it on our game thread, a similar penalty awaits.
Now, back to Craig's regularly scheduled game preview.
The Time: 5:30 p.m. PST
The Place: Friel Court at Beasley Coliseum, which shall henceforth be known as "The House That Sterk Painted"
The Coverage: FSN, FCS Pacific. Find your local radio station here. Audio for a fee at wsucougars.com. Post stream links in the comments.
KenPom says: No. 99 WSU 73, No. 118 UCLA 68 (66 possessions, 72% confidence)

via wsucougars.com
Keys to a Cougar Victory
UCLA's biggest defensive weakness is opponent three point percentage. The Cougs need Klay to duplicate his performance from the Cal game from the outside. UCLA is not great at forcing turnovers, so the opportunities should be there if the Cougs avoid careless passes and dribbling into crowds.
On the defensive end, the intensity has to improve over the last effort against UCLA, especially on switches. Reeves Nelson had his own personal dunk contest last time out, largely because the Cougs were rotating very poorly. They need to put forth a better effort tonight.
Also, I wouldn't mind if Nikola Dragovic sat out for some reason. He's having a bad season, but we know that doesn't matter when he's playing the Cougs.
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Win one for the Sterk!
Or the Moos, perhaps
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 5:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Not lookin good as far as crowd goes
Just got out of a 4:00 test. I’m sitting in the tenth row of the student section. Hopefully those that are here will bring it!
by StraightOuttaPullman on Feb 18, 2010 5:17 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Alright! Game time and on TV this time!
Hopefully being at home provides some extra shock for the Cougars to make them look good and add some momentum to take down UW in the coming week. Maybe all the events happening at WSU will help too, with homecoming mentioned on CougFan. :)
Though, today I hope the Cougs don’t allow another one of those cringing losses again. The Cal game offered that (and not to mention the uhh…), but I was at the ocean. I just took a long walk on the beach after I saw the Cougs threw it away again. Dang youth.
I have faith that WSU will come out with smiles on their faces and leave the court with smiles. Except for Klay. :P
Oh yeah i forgot
A certain point guard is in the house and has been at practice all week. Hope he wears his hs warmups tonight
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 5:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm at the game tonight
Taylor Rochestie and Robbie Cowgill are here together tonight. They are sitting in the next section over from me.
by GoCougs on Feb 18, 2010 5:20 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Today is the day the streak ends!
UCLA’s 13 game winning streak in Pullman will hopefully be snapped tonight. Go cougs!
Capers not starting
missd three practices due to death in family
He was on campus today.
pretty sure I saw him…
one of my favorite parts of the game thread
is ripping on the announcers. hope that’s cool :)
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We have physioc again dont we?
If so, bombs away
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 5:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
i haven't said "dang it" since i was 9
but i was raised a jerk
The House that Sterk Painted
haha that made me laugh. I would rec that if I could.
UCLA has won 96 of the 111 all-time meetings
i hear the overall W/L every year, and every year i shudder a little
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Here comes the Howland adjustments
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 5:43 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Not a very good crowd tonight at the Beas
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by Grady Clapp on Feb 18, 2010 5:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, I am a little suprised.
The Upper deck looks empty
by KirklandCoug on Feb 18, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
really?
5pm game on a thursday is never going to sell well.
...it was a step through
The point is to not draw contact
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 5:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Reggie almost blew that, ha.
But good anticipation, good steal.
Good time out by Bone
Need to regroup. And the officials are not helping either.
A timeout after a made basket right before a media timeout
Shall, for the rest of time, be known as a “Ben Howland.”
Great getting dragoviched by honeycutt
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Agreed, we are not very good at it.
Back to Man now, though.
by KirklandCoug on Feb 18, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
This is a fun lineup
The old watson motum combo
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Getting to the line a lot
I like that!
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 6:02 PM PST reply actions
Thats why im ok with him taking those
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:05 PM PST via mobile reply actions
How do you beat a zone?
By shooting over it. Ada boy Klay.
Capers- The Garbage Man
A dunk of what would have been a turnover.
too bad he can't hit a jumper from the elbow
he’s just standing there all alone, like they’re daring him to shoot
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Well you see Thames is wearing a white an crimson jersey
And the other team is wearing powder blue. So clearly the powder blue team does not commit fouls. They were once coached by John Wooden after all.
of course
you’re a coug. you are by nature, a bad person.
nah
he shouldn’t have held onto the rim
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I cut my head just above my eye playing hoops as a youngster
those things bleed like a SOB
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Translation- We are not playing good defense.
Our shots will fall, eventually. But not a good defensive effort. UCLA won’t hit everything they shoot, either.
by KirklandCoug on Feb 18, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
Klay out
And turnovers all over still
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions
No not at all
The header and body were unrelated. Just didn’t want to post twice
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
If you're sick of us using the dribble to try and beat every kind of defense, raise your hand.
by Jeff Nusser on Feb 18, 2010 6:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Like Harmeling said in his article today
you can at least control your awareness on defense. That dunk early in the game where the guy drove unchallenged to the hole and dunked before casto even turned around shows the lack of focus and awareness on our defense.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 6:18 PM PST reply actions
why do they think harthun is a good shooter
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:19 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Put the damn circle under the rim
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions
We should not be losing by 13 at home to this UCLA team.
Terrible 1st half. But, maybe that means our good half of the game will be the 2nd half?
damnit all what the hell
You gotta be kidding me. No offensive rhythm, no defense. Let’s go boys.
At least Bone is punishing kids but what in the holy hell was that end to the half
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Nevermind, allen was out ther out of necessity
Crap
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Valid point
Is it bad I trust the walk on for ball security. I love reggie but he has a tendancy to dribble into trouble or get caught in the air. I still wouldn’t trade him for anything, just hope he learns
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
that wasn't Allen
that was Rochestie.
Fail.
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by Grady Clapp on Feb 18, 2010 6:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I honestly do not care what defensive scheme you run
but players must play with great effort and awareness. Defense is desire anyone can be competent at it and that is what is frustrating about this team.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 6:25 PM PST reply actions
You are correct.
They don’t always play without energy and intensity on defense, but it’s often enough that it’s inexcusable.
Exactly.
Teams that pick and chose when to play hard are usually below average.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
So by my count, UCLA had 31 possessions
Scored 26 points off 21 possessions when we played Man
5 points off 5 possessions against our 2/3
9 points off 5 possessions in transition
So, if we average that with WSU ~33
There were 32 possessions. That’s .81 points per possession for the offense. Yucky.
Wow. This is bitter.
Just hopefully that this game is the reverse of the halves aside from what we’ve seen in the past two games. Just hopefully there is some torching in the 2nd against UCLA. Just hopefully, there is some defense. :(
halftime plus/minus
Watson 26
Thames 24
Motum 18
Allen 12
Harthun 6
Capers 0
Moore 0
Thompson -14
Koprivica -18
Casto -26
Is it just me being racist
that I assume Roll can’t be faster than all the guys he’s losing on D?
The team just really looks confused on both ends. UCLA just seems like they have our number everywhere.
I think they should try putting Klay in the middle spot in the zone. I’d think he could create a bit more there than Capers, and he’s not doing much on the wing beyond catching the ball in bad spots and then making bad decisions.
I don’t know that I saw obviously biased reffing this half, but I do know I have no idea what a foul looks like in this game.
The middle man is just a show me
Id rather see klay outside. Maybe thames as the high post. Or watson
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
true
Ill take anything to move us out of this funk
by Brian Floyd on Feb 18, 2010 6:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
how many is "many"?
i only saw 2 or 3 dunks.
i guess just the fact that they were in an offensive set and we looked completely stupid made it seem worse.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
Dunks
I can only think of one really bad dunk that game from a lapse in the half court. Then the Nelson faceplant.
The amount of shots UCLA’s taken without a hand in their face, that’s likely pretty bad.
Also there was one at the end of the half
in their half court set where they cut baseline and we didn’t adjust at all and it was an easy slam.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
Just looked at ESPN's gamecast play by play
It says 4 dunks, by Drago, Honeycutt, Lee, and Nelson.
by KirklandCoug on Feb 18, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
headin to the bar boys
need some spirits to finish this one.
go cougs!!
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It's amazing how I write a post about us not getting discouraged
And they put together their most discouraging performance of the season.
Young is a valid excuse for a while..
But it’s time these boys start growing up. These stretches of bad basketball just cannot happen, at least they shouldn’t be happening as much as they did earlier in the year. This team, is playing its worst ball right now towards the middle-end of the year, instead of its best.
by KirklandCoug on Feb 18, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
Bobby Knight had a quote
about how nobody’s young anymore after 20 games
Tonight's performance is unique
They haven’t had it pretty much the entire game. We haven’t seen very many of these this year. These guys are truly lost right now.
Really? Really?
The Taylor schollie story? Really Fox, that’s what we’re going to talk about.
But it went to Capers
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
He is such a giver
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
Oh, and Klay's dad played in the NBA
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
2 Nicola's in this game
did you know there are 4 Nicola’s and they are all from the same country?
jeez
i STILL can’t get away from the scholarship story
Won't win
but may send a message if you play them the rest of the game.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
They can't improve when they aren't competing.
It says to team if you want to get minutes you will commit on the defensive end. Kind of like the old Roy Williams pulling all five starters after a poor start. Yes I know his bench is much better.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
I will help you out
maybe they will bring some effort and energy since they never get to play.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 6:52 PM PST reply actions
This is clearly Nuss' fault
Optimism kills.
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by Grady Clapp on Feb 18, 2010 6:52 PM PST via mobile reply actions
He never was a good passer. He's not a ball handling guard and rarely makes a good transition pass for an assist.
He’s a shooter. That’s it.
he's not a guard period
he’s a 3.
He's too physically weak to be a 4
and he’s too lazy as the third guard.
I’m coming from the perspective that WSU has no 5. DeAngelo is a true 4.
This isn't so bad, in the long run
This team deserved to get smacked in the face, and that’s what happened. To a mediocre UCLA team at home. This should be a wake up call for what’s left of the year.
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by Grady Clapp on Feb 18, 2010 7:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I've been withholding comment since...
I’m not very popular with some others on this board, but this game reminds me somewhat of the D effort by Paul Graham’s teams. I know, that’s not fair…but you get the point!
In other words, dunk and layup practice for our opponent.
Our guys are still hustling at least.
Anyway, I’ll stop. I appreciate all the Coug fans out there. We need all we can get. You guys are true fans.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:05 PM PST reply actions
I'd argue they're not hustling very much ...
by Jeff Nusser on Feb 18, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I've seen some really nice hustle...
but far too much clueless-ness too.
(I violated my “I’ll stop” comment.)
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
Way too infrequent
25 games into the year, there should not be stretches were a team doesn’t seem to play hard.
I'm bummed
That we didn’t put together anything that looked like a run at the lead. Seems like the heart wasn’t in it tonight
Reeves Nelson
Wish we had him. He looks fine having that eye and probably still is ready to play
Harthun shoots long for 2 and they mention Singler goes to Duke
Gee. Now we know how it is that Harthun was highly rated—he played under the aide of Singler on his squad.
um... no
Harthun was a good prep player on his own
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by Grady Clapp on Feb 18, 2010 7:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
All things considered, this will go down as the worst defensive performance since before the Bennett's arrived.
worse than against north carolina?
i guess getting blown out at home is worse.
I might have to take back that statement
Does anyone remember Gonzaga beating us 96-58 on 64 possessions back in December 2003? HOLY CRAP I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.
This is beyond pathetic
I’m just sick. We look like Cougar football right now. Not good.
I think that's tragically incorrect
I’m not sure there’s a basketball equivalent of the degree to which WSU was outclassed talent wise this season.
RIP Cougar basketball defense
2003-2009
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by Grady Clapp on Feb 18, 2010 7:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This is one where I'll gladly pin it on Bone.
The lack of commitment to defense was a major mistake on his part.
Careful now...
I’d like to see the shot chart.
Layup and dunk practice for UCLA. Yikes.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
That was the highlight of the game...
but really, they’ve had very little problems with their dunks and layups.
I’m saddened by what I’ve seen tonight.
Well…at least there is football season. :-O
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
Submitted without comment
4:48 UCLA – Layup by Jerime Anderson
5:27 Washington St. – Michael Harthun makes a jumper
5:49 UCLA – Nikola Dragovic dunks the ball
6:06 Washington St. – James Watson misses a layup
6:37 TV timeout
6:37 UCLA – J’mison Morgan misses a dunk
7:03 UCLA – Malcolm Lee misses a layup
Remember the Arizona game.
The defense was outstanding that game which has me convinced that effort is the main reason for this.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 7:18 PM PST reply actions
So who is responsible for "effort"?
Just asking the question.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody escapes this one unscathed
The problem comes in trying to figure out who gets what, which is impossible. I will always tend to lean toward the players taking the lions share. They’re big boys. They ought to be able to bring it.
As you likely know, I have the opposite view.
At the end of the day though…it will always reflect on coach. He’s the one pulling down $600K+/year.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
OK then...
coach is making $650K/year. Better?
;-)
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
Coach doesn't take the shots
Coach doesn’t lazily run around screens. The coach emptied his bench, and it made no difference.
At some point, players have to take responsibility.
It is a mix of both coaches and players.
Players will do what you emphasize, if you emphasize effort on defense day in and day out then most likely the players will emphasize it too. I do think we have a few players who are offensive minded and think that defense is rest time.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
That's probably an accurate statement
There’s no way these athletes should be the 188th-ranked defense in the nation. That one, I lay at the feet of Bone — which I already have.
I am not smart enough to know
and maybe somebody is…
but it’s hard for me to tell what’s a lack of effort and what’s simply the result of being brutally outschemed.
I’m also not smart enough to know if that outscheming is a result of Bone being bad, or Howland being really, really good.
I will say this
Our offensive strategy was to pound the ball and beat them with the dribble drive. It was brutally ineffective.
Lack of effort is when
you see people walking around as the other team is going for a wide open lay in or dunk. Being outschemed is when you see the players hustling and scrapping in effort to make up for the poor scheme yet they still get scored on. I have never seen such slow and lax rotations and attempts at help defense.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
BTW...UCLA is "young" too.
Just to remind everyone.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:24 PM PST reply actions
They aren't as old as you might think...
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/teams/uaa/roster
Especially at critical positions like the 1 and 5 positions.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yes...
So doesn’t that suggest that they aren’t that experienced? Also, you have to understand that at the most critical position (pg)…they are certainly not experienced.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
It means they're slightly below average
I think experience is a little overrated, to be honest. Talent will almost always trump experience. It’s only when all things are equal that I think experience can make a difference.
That was straight up quiting right there.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 7:26 PM PST reply actions
Looks like coach has quit too.
Maybe not..but I saw him with his head down on the bench.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Nuss....we likely disagree on this again...
but you fight to the end and show your players that.
Otherwise, they’ll mirror your behavior.
Tough game. I hate to lose.
You guys are all good fans.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
meh, i don't agree with that either
if you’re disgusted with your effort, you let them know.
you’re going to let your players know you’re going to fight for them when they give up?
I always tell my students I won't work harder than they do
You can’t want it more than they do. These players need to decide how bad they want it.
I just meant there comes a point where all you can do is shake your head
He pulled every string there was to pull, and none of it made a difference.
I agree with westside.
Bone quit. Team was already going through the motions.
Go Cougs!
So, I'm curious
How exactly do you decide when a coach quits? How do you measure this?
WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.
I'm with you
there was nothing he could do at that point I’m sure he tried every motivational trick in the book. Sometimes you just have to shake your head.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
The sky will go back up
if we hire Moos.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
I think some of us are in the....
“let’s make excuses for coach” phase.
Seriously, I’m not trying to be provocative…but I used to do this with our coaches (like Paul Graham). Then I learned that it is their job to keep pushing his guys…keep coaching them up…never give up until the clock shows 0:00. Never.
I saw him hanging his head down. The team did not look prepared today.
At least we got beat by a team with an excellent coach. Howland is one of the best.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
OK...I'll stop...
I posted over on Cougfan as response to someone calling for Bone’s head right now.
You might be surprised at my response.
Thanks for your web site.
You do a great job Nuss and Co.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks.
It’s just a matter of the conversation not going anywhere. We’re going to have to agree to disagree, as neither one of us can be proven right. It’s the beauty of sports.
Unfortunately, unwinnable arguments also get old — for everyone.
FYI...I am not here to "win" an argument...
just to provide an alternative viewpoint…that also happens to be difficult to accept at this point.
You all are great fans! I’m on the same team as you and feel passionate about WSU basketball (and WSU sports, in general)…just like you.
Paul Graham was the only coach in the history to make me totally lose interest in WSU basketball. I don’t want to feel that way ever again.
I apologize if I’ve offended anyone.
PS Go USC (tonight).
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
ha!
nobody’s making excuses for the coach.
but it takes a special kind of person to think they know a coach gave up….from seeing him shake his head.
It doesn't take looking at the coach...
to see that he gave up. Just look at the shot chart.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
I guess I was mistaken....
…about who gets paid the big bucks to prepare his team to play/compete. Sorry.
I would have respected him for going deep into his bench when things started going south. That was in the first half, as you might recall.
Seriously, I think many on this board could have coached the same game…and done it for a lot less.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
Bone is the 10th highest paid coach in the pac-10
by your rationale, we should have zero wins.
Let me put it this way...
it doesn’t take anything close to $650k/year to lose a game in that manner.
I’d do it for 1/3 that. K;-)
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
I've seen some ugly losses from much higher paid coaches
It was a bad loss, nothing more, nothing less
fair enough.
i volunteered to coach football last year in exchange for having my picture taken with the dance team.
Did that include with one sitting in your lap??
Sorry…shouldn’t go there.
by westsidecougar1 on Feb 18, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
oh thank you
seriously, i’m cheered up now.
i wasn’t aware Bone was out there taking shots.
I bet he wore Stockton shorts
there aren't many times you can type LOL and actually be laughing out loud
but my wife wants to know what’s so damn funny and i just can’t tell her about Bone in Stockton Shorts
The lay in was the most embarrassing play of the game in my opinion.
by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Feb 18, 2010 7:26 PM PST reply actions
Just a random thought, the cougs have lost EVERY game on nationaL TV
ASU, UCLA, CAL, UW, and UCLA again.
by KirklandCoug on Feb 18, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
ah....
we’ve been on national tv so few times….
I nominate that for most embarassing performance since Paul Graham left
Sad. Where was the effort?
Go Cougs!
Westside was correct
That felt like a Paul Graham game. `
final plus minus
Watson 26
Motum 24
Lodwick 20
Harthun 12
Capers 2
Thames -2
Moore -8
Thompson -20
Koprivica -26
Casto -26
I hope Rochestie
goes to practice again and lets these guys have it. Maybe tell them how important defense is. They aparently aren’t getting that at practice now.

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