A look at Klay Thompson's potential
To break away from all the transfer stuff, here's something a little different. I've been wondering for a while how good Klay Thompson can be, who he compares to in the game now, and what he needs to improve upon to reach his full potential. To start, here is a blind comparison of some important numbers. (Click "wide" view to the right for best viewing.)
| Yr | %Mins | PPG | RPG | APG | Ortg | %Poss | %Shots | eFG | TS% | OR% | DR% | Arate | TORate |
| Fresh | 82.1 | 12.5 | 4.2 | 1.9 | 97 | 24 | 27.9 | 51.1 | 52.7 | 3.3 | 12.7 | 14.5 | 18 |
| Soph | 87 | 19.6 | 5.1 | 2.3 | 102.3 | 29.5 | 33.2 | 49.1 | 54.4 | 4.1 | 13.5 | 15.4 | 19.1 |
Unnamed Player:
| Yr | %Mins | PPG | RPG | APG | Ortg | %Poss | %Shots | eFG | TS% | OR% | DR% | Arate | TORate |
| Fresh | 67.6 | 8.5 | 4.4 | 2.6 | 95.6 | 21 | 16.7 | 51.9 | 55.7 | 4.1 | 13.7 | 18.4 | 28.8 |
| Soph | 90 | 17.3 | 7.1 | 4 | 107.5 | 29.8 | 26.4 | 51.7 | 58.4 | 6.6 | 17.3 | 25.8 | 20.9 |
The numbers are from their respective kenpom team pages. You can also find an explanation of what each of these stats these mean here.
After the jump, find out who the other player is and what Klay needs to do to live up to him.
The unnamed player in this case is Evan Turner. For those of you that don't know who Evan Turner is, and I hope that's only a few of you, he's one of the top players in college basketball this year as a junior. I left out his stats from this year because I only wanted to compare him to Klay up until this point in each player's career. To see Turner's stats for this year, go here. If Turner were to declare for the draft, which he probably will, he's a lock to go in the top two picks. The kid can flat play. As a guard at 6'7 210, he's a lot like Klay just by appearance, but that's not why I'm comparing the two.
Both Thompson and Turner can score, and score a lot. They're both guards that can get in and rebound as well. They create matchup problems for other teams and are usually the focus of the defensive gameplan. Ability wise, they're each the best players on their respective teams.
What Klay lacks that Turner has developed is something that we all want Klay to have in his arsenal: the ability to handle the ball and create his own shots or shots for his teammates. Turner's assist rate jumped up quite a bit from his freshman to sophomore year. He became "the guy" on that team and was the one handling more point guard duties. His ball handling ability clearly improved between his first and second years, something that we would probably all love to see happen with Klay between his second and third years. This also takes on more significance now that Thames is gone. We're going to need someone else that may be a capable ball handler. I'll be the first to admit that Thompson hasn't been that guy and I know most of us get nervous when he brings the ball up.
Finally, let's look at the shooting numbers for Turner:
| Yr | 2PM-2PA | 2Pt% | 3PM-3PA | 3Pt% | FD/40 | FTA |
| Fresh | 86-163 | 52.8 | 23-69 | 33.3 | 3.7 | 163 |
| Soph | 182-359 | 50.7 | 11-25 | 44 | 5.8 | 222 |
And for Klay:
| Yr | 2PM-2PA | 2Pt% | 3PM-3PA | 3Pt% | FD/40 | FTA |
| Fresh | 91-213 | 42.7 | 68-165 | 41.2 | 2.3 | 31 |
| Soph | 124-276 | 44.9 | 76-209 | 36.4 | 4.9 | 166 |
You'll notice right away that Turner shoots better, and more often, from inside the arc which, from what I've seen, is a product of his ability to create open looks and easy shots. He also has always been better at drawing fouls and getting to the line. This is the part of Klay's game that has been rapidly improving, as evidenced by the up tick of his FD/40 and FTA numbers between his freshman and sophomore years. Klay is also the better shooter from deep, but he shoots it way more often from beyond the arc than Turner does, as well. Again, this boils down to being able to create off the dribble as well as moving off the ball to find open looks.
For me, Evan Turner is Klay Thompson's ceiling. A quick look at their recruiting profiles show that the two were rated about the same coming out of high school. Turner has progressed each year, making an even bigger leap to become what he is this year. Thompson has also shown improvement between seasons, getting to the line, drawing fouls, and being more of an offensive presence. We all know his shortcomings and the issues his game had down the stretch this year, but we've also seen what he can be at times.
I'm not saying Klay is Turner right now, nor am I saying he absolutely will be in a year or two, but I am saying that he can be. If he even approaches that ceiling, I guarantee we will all be happy and the team will benefit from it.
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This got me pretty excited
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 29, 2010 9:34 PM PDT reply actions
as the surrounding
cast of Coug players develop, the ability to outright and lightly double Klay will also diminish. I think this will have a nice impact on his proficiency as well… assists and better looks should be more abundant if Aden is the shooter they say he can be. Also- as Casto’s offensive capabilities improve and Motum’s do the same, that too, can ease pressure. Let’s hope Klay learns and then continues to go AT the rim when the going gets tough. Ohio St has a bevy of options… hoping the Cougs continue to do the same. Great post!
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
by hollyweirdcoug on Mar 29, 2010 10:44 PM PDT reply actions
I like Klay
… but I do not understand your analysis. These numbers are not really comparable when taken as a whole or on a trended basis. How do you conclude that Klay’s “ceiling” is comparable to Turner’s? These are really different kinds of players. Comparing them to players with ceilings to which they could aspire, Turner’s game is more Grant Hill while Klay’s game is more Steve Smith.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
It wasn't phrased right
The comparison is more the type of player he can be at the collegiate level. It wasn’t meant to compare Klay’s ceiling to Turner’s ceiling, but was more to draw a comparison between how they started and see if Klay could end up where Turner is now before the end of his college career. Both came in as long wings that became the focal point of their offenses soon thereafter (and both are comparable defensively although the systems are different). Turner, however, has taken on more of a point-wing role while Klay was a spot up shooter that worked on his driving game this year.
The question I’m asking, and can’t fully answer myself, is if he can develop the dimension missing in his game that Turner has (ballhandling/assists).
by Brian Floyd on Mar 30, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I just hope he makes shots in conference play next year.
That’s a high enough ceiling for me.
I don’t really see a comparison to a guy with the creativity of Turner. Klay can get to the rim on occasion, but that’s more a result of finishing in transition or going by guys playing his shot really tight than truly breaking a guy down.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Mar 30, 2010 8:46 AM PDT reply actions
I'll admit it's a stretch
Part of it is derived from where he’s improved this year in getting to the line and attacking more. The other part of it is from where I’d like to see his game go (attacking off the dribble and not settling simply for an outside shot.
Turner is much more creative with the ball in his hands than Thompson is now and may ever will be. What I’d like to see, and also think is possible, is for Klay to become a better ball handler and use that to set up his own shot, but more importantly the rest of his team.
That makes sense.
As much as he had a disappointing season, the jump in the FT rate was impressive. Hopefully offensive improvement by those around him and better offensive execution will help him to be more efficient. If the D isn’t able to load up on him as much next year and Bone can get him some easy shots he’ll look like a much better player even if he doesn’t improve as such.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Mar 30, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can see where you're coming from on this.
I don’t know that I buy that Klay will ever be as good as Turner was this year, because I just don’t think he has the athleticism to match Turner. But in terms of whether Klay can become an all-around player in the same mold? I buy that.
This is what I was going for
Turner is probably a one of a kind type player. However his type of game, being a well rounded player, is possible for Klay. I don’t know, or think it’s likely, Klay can get to where Turner is from a numbers standpoint but do think he can develop that type of game for himself and that it’s something he needs to do to better himself and the team.
by Brian Floyd on Mar 30, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions

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