OPEN GAME THREAD: WSU @ OSU
by Craig Powers on Mar 4, 2010 6:30 PM PST
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PrintWashington St. Cougars at Oregon St. Beavers, Mar 4, 2010 7:00 PM PST
The Time: 7 p.m. PST
The Place: Gill Coliseum in Corvallis, Ore.
The Coverage: No TV. OSUBeavers.com is webcasting the game for a fee. Local radio stations here. Audio streamed online for a fee here.
KenPom says: No. 125 OSU 63, No 111 WSU 60 (62 possessions, 62% confidence)
via wsucougars.com
Keys to a Cougar Victory
The Beavs are a good defensive team (47th nationally if defensive efficiency). However, they are at their best when they are playing the trapping 1-3-1 and forcing turnovers. Last time out, Reggie Moore was too quick to be trapped and he forced the Oregon State back into a standard 2-3 zone. The Beavers are not nearly as good in their 2-3. Let's hope Reggie, Xavier Thames, and Marcus Capers can push OSU out of the 1-3-1 again. Sorry Klay, we really don't want you handling the ball in this one.
As good as Oregon State is on defense, they are equally bad on offense (220th nationally in offensive efficiency). They have exactly one above average offensive player (in terms of ORtg), Seth Tarver. The Beavs will give the ball away, a lot. They are 321st in turnover percentage. The Cougs need to take advantage of the turnovers to create transition opportunities.
This is a great opportunity for WSU to pick up a road win and beat one of the other teams trying to avoid that 8-9 game at the Pac-10 tourney. Let's hope the Cougs get it done tonight!
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They do our "sucks" thing in the intros
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:03 PM PST reply actions
Really solid start
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:08 PM PST reply actions
Zone is giving us fits
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:13 PM PST reply actions
Now our zone giving them fits
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:18 PM PST reply actions
Anyone want to join me? :)
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:20 PM PST reply actions
He's been playing really bad
Not holding on to the ball
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
Moore having a tough time
Just gave it to OSU on a 3-on-2 break. OSU is starting to cool off a bit though.
Only down 2
Could, and should, be more than that with the way they have played.
Our defense has been pretty good the last few minutes tho
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
Yep too many turnovers
Has been better play since Reggie has left tho.
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
AUSIE AUSIE AUSIE!
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone found an online feed?
I remember reading somewhere that this game is being shown on TV in Oregon and just not Washington and wondered if that is true is there a feed online somewhere…..not having to pay for it.
Oregon State website for a fee
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
Don't believe so
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
Time to bring Casto back
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:35 PM PST reply actions
Right on cue
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
No TV.
Why is FSN showing USC-ASU and now UCLA-Arizona instead of games that we might actually want to watch in the Northwest??? FSN is horrible, horrible crap.
But then.....
the way it looks early might be glad this game isnt shown on TV.
by spokanecougar on Mar 4, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
I think we should go back to the zone
It was working great when Casto was in. Watson was too weak down low but now hes out.
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:38 PM PST reply actions
Doesn't matter what defense we play
If we can’t score.
I was just about to say something along those lines
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
This is unbelivabley bad...
We’re getting absolutley destroyed.
BRUTAL
No energy and nu purpose offensively
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
Hey Jeff!
Still throwing me off
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
Nope
You are just missing some really, really, bad basketball.
Reggie has been pretty bad lately
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:43 PM PST reply actions
Nik passed up a shot and passed
to Moore, who missed
At this rate,
we’ll have 20 turnovers before the half
I thought these droughts were supposed to stop when Benedict Arnold went to Virginia?
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:46 PM PST reply actions
Klay has taken one shot
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:48 PM PST reply actions
Oh was to slow typing that
now we have 15 points and 13 turnovers
by spokanecougar on Mar 4, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
Almost
as much turnovers as shot attempts too
Now we do
15 Points and 15 Turnovers
What a half
by spokanecougar on Mar 4, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Casto forgets to hold on to a rebound
and gives OSU another bucket
I am going to go do something productive
This game is painful.
Don't see anyone out their who really wants it tonight
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:52 PM PST reply actions
*out there
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Lets see
shoot 25%, allow the other team 9 more shots where they make 52% on gets you more than doubled up on.
I have one site saying we are tied at 15-15
by spokanecougar on Mar 4, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
I have 15-15 too
-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Sports Writer
by Brett the 49er on Mar 4, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
They couldn't play any worse
so much for any fundamentals what so ever
You did, but I didn't think it would be THIS bad
I don’t really care it seems, just not in to the game as I have been all year. That UW game took a lot out of me.
I think we need to come to terms with the fact
Our offense just isn’t that good
by Grady Clapp on Mar 4, 2010 7:55 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Possibly horrible?
-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Sports Writer
by Brett the 49er on Mar 4, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
It's not this bad, either
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
It's been good at times
Really, really good. But this strikes me as a team that is, if not mailing it in, getting tired of fighting. So many guys have hit the wall.
Its been good when Klay is good
Sometimes with Reggie, but it’s only good when Klay is good.
by spokanecougar on Mar 4, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
Time to end this thing
We sacked up the bats a few weeks ago.
That's the worst I have ever seen
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
At least UW is losing at Oregon
But only by 1 :/
I seriously cannot wait for this season to be over
I had to talk myself into writing today’s post on Bone teams finishing strong. I just have no desire to talk about these guys anymore.
I miss Baynes, Rochestiw, Cowgil, Low, and Weaver
:’(
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
*Rochestie
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
On the bright side
Our baseball team is good….so far.
Can’t wait to get back to Pullman to watch them play.
KNOCK ON WOOD!
-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Sports Writer
by Brett the 49er on Mar 4, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Perfect!
I want so badly to see them succeed. Hopefully that bats can stay productive once Pac-10 play starts.
-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Sports Writer
by Brett the 49er on Mar 4, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
If them and the M's can score some runs
We could be in for a fun summer.
by Wazzu Willy on Mar 4, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't wait for the M's
Haven’t been this pumped for a MLB season since 2003
I just hope it is not like a few years ago
Traded for Bedard and everyone saying they could challenge for the AL West and then went and lost 101 games.
I HIGHLY doubt that happens again, but just trying not to get to excited again.
by spokanecougar on Mar 4, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
That team had MUCH more flaws then this team
I’m not saying they’ll win the West, but they will be good. Felix-Lee-RRS is much better than Young Felix-Hurt Bedard-Silva
Silva
Man I get shivers up my spine just thinking about.
So glad that fat worthless piece of crap is no longer on this team
by spokanecougar on Mar 4, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Crap may be an overstatement for Silva...
-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Sports Writer
by Brett the 49er on Mar 4, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
I wanted to say worse
But trying to keep it family friendly here
by spokanecougar on Mar 4, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
We need to put the Bavasi era behind us.
It’s okay to be excited with big Jack Z in charge!
-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Sports Writer
by Brett the 49er on Mar 4, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
The best summer in years
-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Sports Writer
by Brett the 49er on Mar 4, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like we're getting soul crushed by a zone again
Just seems like there’s a combination of the offense we’re running and the players we have that flat doesn’t work. (this would be less true if “the players we have” featured non zombie-Klay Thompson)
I guess at this point it’s all about teaching, so it’s hard to fault Bone for not reinventing the wheel trying to solve this. I guess i’d prefer they just learn how to execute with what they’ve got/will have.
Do we have any idea how Bone’s teams have done vs the zone in the past?
Looking at the last box score
Seems like it was all Reggie (and some Capers), and Reggie is having a terrible game it would appear.
Reggie absolutely murdered that zone
He was in the gaps all game long. He’s hit a wall where he just doesn’t have that explosion right now.
I really just want to cry
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 8:07 PM PST reply actions
Put Klay at the High Post
You need a shooter at the high post to break down the zone offense. Make some damn adjustments, show some coaching versatility for cripes sake.
This made me laugh
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
Reggie going to the line to shoot 3
Better intensity in this half, at least.
I hope Bone's pep talk at half was enough to get these guys going.
There’s a lot more basketball to be played.
Wow, Cougar ball down 9.
What a change in halves
So...
After this season is over…
Should Ken Bone take the Pat Summitt Punishment seen from last year after her season officially ended, or just take the normal route?
and that's why you keep the game on
by Grady Clapp on Mar 4, 2010 8:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I said I was going to walk away..
Im glad I didnt.
I give up trying to figure out this team
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 8:15 PM PST reply actions
thats incredible
Shows how bad we were in that 1st half
How does this happen?
I literally have NO clue
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 8:17 PM PST reply actions
Good halftime talk by Moos?
The guy can turn anything around…
I would expect to play that bad the whole time
But to go from that bad to this good?
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
Well, it does help when you're not giving it away on every other possession.
The ball actually has a chance to go in the basket.
The ball went in the basket thingy
and it was not doing that at a pretty remarkable rate in the first half
WOW. Finally a 2nd half transition.
Directing for a second to another match-up to teams we both hate:
UW @ Oregon, who do you want to win?
I will have to honestly say Oregon.
After our game against them
I can never root for Oregon bxb again.
Finally, Klay shooting the ball well.
Another duece.
The good news is that OSU's offense really can be this bad
This could be a lot like that USC comeback.
Why does it occasionally look like
Brock Motum has never played basketball before.
by Grady Clapp on Mar 4, 2010 8:34 PM PST via mobile reply actions
bad Zag zone years
that is…wow, what a 3 by Thompson there!
Atta kid Klay
Still plenty of time… need stops and boards
by Grady Clapp on Mar 4, 2010 8:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Down 5 with 3 to play
gonna need to buckle down
That was the weirdest shot ever
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 8:41 PM PST reply actions
I don't know
if that was a dunk attempt by Motum…but it was ugly!
we seem to make a lot of kids look good
Bryan-Amaning, Burton, Dunnigan, Drag…etc. I really don’t know what kind of year Burton has had though, so maybe this isn’t just us.
Burton has played very well lately
And MBA lit up UCLA the game before us.
Dunigan and Dragovic, however, I have no explanation for.
Need to go for a steal first
Then foul… we have a good chance
by Grady Clapp on Mar 4, 2010 8:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Great.
We go from a great chance to win, to a bad one b/c WE COULDN’T REBOUND A FREAKING FREE THROW
by Grady Clapp on Mar 4, 2010 8:52 PM PST via mobile reply actions
The best case scenario right now is losing on Saturday and losing on Wednesday
I’m ready for this to be over.
Come on now that isnt true
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by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
I truly feel that way
I’m sick of Cougar sports. I’ve been fighting this fight every day since August. I’m completely burned out.
I kind of have the same feeling..
But come August and Springball, I’ll be back. Im done with the Hoops team.
I can agree with that.
It is very hard but a best case scenario is never losing both games. Lets hope we can recover and win a few here
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with that
I don’t want to see a Cougar loss, in any sport, ever.
Let me ask you a question
Would a win against Oregon and a loss on Wednesday change your view of this season? How about a win, win and loss on Thursday?
I feel no different in any of those scenarios.
Not finishing last would make me feel better
Nothing but running the table in the tournament would change my opinion
It's better then losing both.
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
copy your last 10 posts
and put them on cougfan.
They'd fit right in, wouldn't they?
Listen, I have just reached a point where I simply can’t care about this team anymore. Nothing short of reaching the conference tournament championship will significantly change the way I look at this season at this point. They’ve gotten worse — I’ve got the numbers to prove it — and that is just damn discouraging.
OF COURSE THEY'VE GOTTEN WORSE
sorry for the caps, but i think you all deserve it at this point.
is it possible at all that this roster wasn’t ready for the pac-10? and also, is it possible that our coaching staff may have pulled every trick in his book to get us some wins (that we may or may not have played over our heads) in the front-9?
there’s this ongoing theory that freshmen (and some sophomores) all hit a freshman wall after 20 games. when your team is all freshmen (and some sophomores), your whole team is going to hit that wall after 20 games.
i’m sure there are a billion stats that show we’re worse now than we were around christmas. that doesn’t mean we aren’t poised for a giant leap.
just for levity’s sake, in 05-06 we lost our last 8 straight.
All of those things are possible
Look, I’m still incredibly excited for next year. I’m not down at all on the future. I’m just saying that this season — on top of football season — has completely burned me out. It wasn’t what I expected, and maybe that’s my fault for expecting too much. Doesn’t change the fact that I did expect it, and that my emotional response is an outgrowth of that expectation. That is all.
This team is frusterating as hell
I’m almost glad I won’t be able to see/listen to Saturday’s game.
We are teh sux
Thanks, first half!
by Grady Clapp on Mar 4, 2010 8:57 PM PST via mobile reply actions
How much longer can we keep using the "they are just young" excuse?
One game left in the season and they play like they haven’t learned anything all year.
come on man
things started going downhill a little bit and then it just snowballed. none of them are used to this kind of a grind against this kind of competition. now they know.
www.nwfan.com
someone will have to remind me how a senior-laden team did against OSU last year
you girls whine an awful lot about a game you didn’t see….
Is it getting better?
Or do you feel the same?
Will it make it easier on you
Now you got someone to blame?
You say…
Just remember...
they’re young : ) The only other alternative is that we suck.
If anyone wants to!
Watch Brian Regan on Comedy Central if you’re interested to relieve your frustration with laughter. He’s possibly my favorite comedian.
I hope it helps. :)
What is going on?
Klay Thompson is my man crush
by crimson and gray on Mar 4, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
To summarize
“It came off the rim too hard and we couldn’t get it. I don’t think we would’ve got it either way”. I’m paraphrasing here
For those wondering
If WSU beats Oregon and Cal beats Stanford, we may avoid the play-in. It depends on where the other teams finish since the tie-break goes to who has a better record over the higher ranked teams.
So the odds are pretty high we play Oregon Saturday, then Oregon Wednesday
And in that case, to answer your question Nuss, I’ll be pissed if we go lose-lose to end the season.
beat oregon, cal beats stanford, and either asu or ua need to win.
odds of that happening are good
Or if UA loses and OSU wins, we're in the play-in, too
I think I’ve got all the scenarios straight, now.
And it’s all moot if we lose
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