NCAA sanctions USC: Postseason ban and more
After years of investigations, the NCAA has finally sanctioned USC, hitting the Trojans with a two-year postseason ban, loss of scholarships, and vacated wins from prior seasons.
The common perception was that USC has been above the law, allowed to do whatever it wanted because of the large amount of revenue the program generated. There was talk that USC would escape the allegations with merely a slap on the wrist. Instead, the NCAA levied the strongest penalty they could have outside of a death penalty, which is virtually non-existent presently. By hammering the Trojans, the NCAA is sending a message to all program that serious infractions will not be tolerated.
There was little question in anyone's mind that O.J. Mayo and Reggie Bush were responsible for some kind of misconduct. Bush was sued by a marketing firm looking to recoup costs from his days at USC. The story was that Bush's family had been living in a house paid for by that firm during Bush's time playing for the Trojans. Mayo was allegedly paid by Rodney Guillory before and during his stint at USC, with Tim Floyd allegedly handing Guillory $1,000 at one point.
The question was always whether the NCAA would be able to tie these misdeeds to USC.
The Trojans at least somewhat acknowledged guilt when they stripped their basketball team of postseason eligibility and scholarships during the 2009-2010 season in a move that was widely seen as an attempt to keep the NCAA away from the football program.
USC fought tooth and nail for the football program, ultimately losing, it appears. The goal was to show that there was no connection between the Bush allegations and the program itself, essentially pleading ignorance. By hammering USC, the NCAA has severely damaged the program and limited its ability to recruit. Without being able to play postseason games, the luster in L.A. is gone for at least the two-year period. The blow dealt by the NCAA is near crippling for USC both in the short and long term. If schools hadn't already started capitalizing on USC's decline, they sure will now, both on the field and during recruitment.
For the Pac-10, this means that their main revenue program is out of commission for the next two years. Make no mistake about it, this hurts us all. While the expansion talk has excited us all for the future, this is going to hurt us in the present. USC is, for better or worse, the most recognizable Pac-10 team in the country. They've been splashed across national headlines and on television shows for the better part of the last decade. The amount of money they've brought in to the conference has dwarfed everyone else. Losing the bowl money they may have earned in the next two years, and possibly some of the television revenues, creates a hole the conference will be looking to fill. While some teams stepped up last year, USC was still in a league of its own.
USC and the NCAA will both be holding press conferences on Thursday to address the findings. For now, just be glad that after four years the investigation is over and we can all move on. The Pac-10 will recover, especially if/when they expand, but it may take the Trojans a while to dig out of the hole they've been placed in.
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Unreal
They’re getting the UW treatment, circa 1993. This smacks of an NCAA penalty born both out of infractions and uncooperation. (I don’t even know if that’s a word, but it is now.)
Apt comparison to UW
They bounced back nicely with Neuheisel in only 5-7 years. The same guy who looks to benefit greatest from this judgment, by the way. If he can keep his nose clean, we might be looking at a decade of UCLA dominance … at least out west.
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
I suppose
They did make it to the Rose Bowl in 2001.
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
But they've not been the consistent powerhouse they were before
Some blame Willingham, some blame the rise of USC. Both plausible, but once you get slammed, it’s really tough to build that momentum again.
Understood
I think had Neuheisel not been run out of town, UW would have been consistently battling USC during the last decade.
I can’t believe I am engaging in this discussion, though. I hate everything about UW and Neuheisel. When UW and USC play I want everyone to sprain an ankle and lose.
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
First off, Brian, dude.
You’re on a roll with great post after great post. Kudos, brotha.
Secondly, I saw they lost scholarships, but I never thought it’d be 20+. That’s a ton. I figured they’d lose like 5 or 10 at the most, but 20+? That cuts their recruiting classes in half. UCLA should benefit the most from this, but perhaps we can snag a new Michael Bumpus or two?
Yeah, read it wrong.
I saw the two year ban and just figured it was 20 over the 2 seasons. I’m dumb.

by Kyle Rancourt on Jun 10, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
UDump got the same "sentence" back in '92. 2 year bowl ban and 20 schollies over 2 years. NCAA's standard for "Lack of Institutional Control".
UW's sanctions actually came from the Pac-10, not the NCAA
Which is just almost unfathomable in retrospect that a conference would eat its own like that.
Thanks for keeping it real and not jumping on the hate train
For the Pac-10, this means that their main revenue program is out of commission for the next two years. Make no mistake about it, this hurts us all. While the expansion talk has excited us all for the future, this is going to hurt us in the present. USC is, for better or worse, the most recognizable Pac-10 team in the country. They’ve been splashed across national headlines and on television shows for the better part of the last decade. The amount of money they’ve brought in to the conference has dwarfed everyone else. Losing the bowl money they may have earned in the next two years, and possibly some of the television revenues, creates a hole the conference will be looking to fill.
A lot of good points all in all. However, this thing ain’t over just yet. A four year investigation won’t be over in just one night.
--Conquest Chronicles , SBNation's USC Trojans blog
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When you're appealing to the organization that handed down the penalties
You don’t stand a very good chance of succeeding. Just ask every player who’s ever appealed to Roger Goodell.
Except you aren't appealing to the same committee
The appeals committee is different from the COI. Different people on it. So a little different than Goodell handing down punishment and then receiving the appeal as well.
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by Joey Kaufman on Jun 10, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
But it's still under the same umbrella
Different people, but its still the NCAA. With an investigation this long, it feels like any give in an appeals process would be a deathblow for the NCAA in the eyes of the public.
I’m not saying its right, but an appeals committee formed with members of the NCAA administration is going to be biased I think.
by Brian Floyd on Jun 10, 2010 6:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes.
The apparent thoroughness of the investigation wouldn’t seem to leave a lot of wiggle room.
Also, I’ll say it again: I don’t know how cooperative USC was through this whole process, but with how long it all took, I’m going to assume they weren’t as cooperative as they could have been. The angry tone of this whole thing smacks of a pissed off NCAA. They love to send messages (a la Dez Bryant) when someone doesn’t kowtow and do things their way.
I'd rather be impartial and not cast stones
It hurts us to have the big boy in the conference get slapped. I have no doubt they’ll fight this thing hard in appeals, but as Nuss said it’s always a tough road to go down when you’re appealing to the judge, jury, and executioner.
I’m really curious to see what the report says. If it is 400 pages, I’m gonna need the cliff notes version from you guys.
Do we know what years the wins wll be vacated yet?
I want to know if and when I can start printing our “Back-2-Back Pac-10 Champs” shirts.
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by Craig Powers on Jun 10, 2010 6:58 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Nothing like living in the glorious glorious past!
I would like to pre-order said shirt in both short and long sleeve styles. Perhaps the graphic includes a three-faced cougar chewing on Reggie Bush, Pete Carroll and Tommy Trojan – the 8th circle …
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
I didn't even think about this!
Oh, the possibilities! I’d feel about five minutes of shame for the way we’d “won” the Pac-10, then go crazy!
by johnnycougar on Jun 10, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
CGB is already celebrating their newfound conference title
Here. Maybe we should do the same. Party!
I hate to admit it, but I am a little bummed.
USC football over the past 10 years has help to keep the Pac10 a major player in the national scene. ESPN was even on their train. I hate to admit is but cougfan has a great point, they are great for the Pac10 and revenues. I think USC will bounce back quickly, because of what it has to offer. They will bounce back much quicker that UW. In three to four years they should be back. They have one of the best recruiters in Ed Odgeron and even Monte Kiffin. Although, I have to say the UofMiami hasn’t been the same in a long time, but on the flip side Alabama is back. So, I think storied programs can bounce back quickly. I guess you can say that UofMiami was never a storied program, they just had a great run during the Ray Lewis, Michael Irvin, Jimmy Johnson days. (By the way did anyone watch that ESPN documentary on The U? Great show.)
If a lot of players in this USC incoming class can redshirt, which means only one year that they are kept out of a bowl. If a lot of players in the next class can redshirt they will not miss a bowl. I am sure they can get some talented players to walk on; but forget that idea because I just checked USC’s tuition costs and it looks like it is 40k+ a year to go to school there. Four years would be 160K+ without housing. Ouch! How does anyone besides an athlete afford that? Forget about getting talented walk-ons.
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USC got what it deserved...maybe.
I understand the theory that USC’s glory has increased the PAC 10’s visibility, but I don’t feel any remorse for them as they clearly achieved ill gotten gains. Schools like WSU can only compete if the playing field is somewhat level… SC had more more, more power, more fans, more coverage and still cheated like crazy.
In my day the parking lot at practice at WSU was a hilarious collection of beaters. The occasional nice car meant someone’s pop had dough. Across the state in Seattle the difference was comical. The purple lot was 75% new rigs. This was the 80’s, but still it spoke volumes about booster power. Not long after this, the NCAA swooped in and uw paid the piper. Recently, when the SC kid got caught in a fancy new rig and it made the news… a good friend who works in that industry told me that 30 leased vehicles were returned within days, in and around the SC campus. This stuff is rampant in college sports. Perhaps this set of sanction will quell some of the cheaters for a time and allow the less fortunate to make some hay within NCAA rules. As Nike powers the zero’s, and T-bone grows OK St- others will follow… it warrants a close watch. Legendary Coach Wooden had Sam Gilbert… google him… listen to the quotes of former players and note their specific silences.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/08/sports/la-sp-0609-wooden-gilbert-20100609
WSU will forever be the little engine that could when it succeeds in sport. This will only be magnified with the massive injection of money and power teams in the new 16 team league. Oversight is crucial to keep it competitive.
I mean seriously- 20 scholies for what SC did? The Cougs lost 24 over 3 years for class work and drop outs. My feeling is that SC is getting off easy.
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
by hollyweirdcoug on Jun 10, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions
Who needs Land Rovers and fancy cars when you have Pullman Transit?
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30 scholarships over 3 years for USC
The vacated wins are from Dec 04 through the end of 05. Stop the presses on the shirts, Craig.
These are bad sanctions. The NCAA cited the culture at USC, saying what was happening there struck at the heart of amateurism.
by Brian Floyd on Jun 10, 2010 12:04 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Sad face. :-(
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by Craig Powers on Jun 10, 2010 12:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
On the plus side, some third world countries will have an influx of wsu back 2 back champs shirts
by Brian Floyd on Jun 10, 2010 1:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe we Cougs can lay claim to a mythical title
like the ludicrous 1960 Husky claim. We did beat Texas that year…
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
by hollyweirdcoug on Jun 10, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Good
Cheating at this level should be considerably worse than some flunk outs. Not saying the academics should be important, just saying that the harsh 8 a year on WSU was a heavy load to inherit for Wulff… the out of control stuff at SC stinks of somethng far worse than lazy student athletes.
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
by hollyweirdcoug on Jun 10, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
OOOPS- meant shouldn't be important...
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
by hollyweirdcoug on Jun 10, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions

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