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What's the old saying about where nice guys finish?

I know that by writing this I run the risk of beating a dead horse. A horse that's only dead because so many of us Cougar faithful jumped to conclusions prematurely during the first two years of the Paul Wulff era. It's disappointing that stance may have been right.

However, this isn't just a knee-jerk "Fire Wulff" post. We didn't just come off a heartbreaking loss, I've had a full night of sleep, I'm completely sober (promise!) and my mind is totally clear. Nor is this a request to fire Wulff right this second - although I'll elaborate on that in a moment.

Nope, this is just a Coug fan losing faith in a coaching staff. Not just a coach, but the entire regime around him. One man doesn't create a debacle like this, it takes a team. Just like it takes a team to win a national championship. They're all at fault here, and it's mean-spirited to throw all the blame at Paul Wulff when he certainly doesn't deserve it all.

Star-divide

There's no sure formula for winning. If there were, all 120 FBS teams would do it, and the BCS would sure have a heck of a time trying to come up with a national championship game from among the one hundred and twenty some 12-0 teams (my prediction: Notre Dame versus Texas). A coach can have good process and lose; another coach can have bad process and win. One coach keeps things clean, coaches his kids up to their highest potential and goes 3-9. Another coach recruits convicted felons from Alcatraz Junior College, doesn't bother to coach them at all and goes 9-3 with a trip to the MoneyTree Caterpillar Bowl in Des Moines. Sometimes life just isn't fair.

Which brings me to Paul Wulff - the ultimate guy Coug fans want to root for in college football. He's one of us. He played offensive line - fought in the trenches - on hard-nosed, never-say-die Cougar football teams two decades ago. He's overcome more adversity in 43 years than some entire families have had in their whole lifetimes. He deserved a shot to coach at the highest level in college football and he got that opportunity at his alma mater. It was a rags to riches story and there aren't many people who did more to earn it.

That's why it probably has to hurt him even more than it does us to see the team in crimson and gray so thoroughly abused night after night. Fans like us don't have any control over how the team plays; Wulff does. It's his responsibility, his calling to make the Cougars competitive. And yet they aren't: 66-3, 63-14, 66-13. 69-0, 58-0, 52-6, 48-7, 43-7.

65-17.

What hurts the most is that this year was supposed to be different. If you comb through the results of the last two seasons you'll find that yes, indeed, the Cougars had made a modest improvement last year. Of course that was until the entire team (it seemed) got injured and the Cougs were decimated and running out a patchwork football squad by the time the Apple Cup rolled around. And then fast forward to this fall, where the Cougars were once again relatively healthy (need I remind you that they have played their best football in the Wulff era when they weren't running out hoards of second-stringers), and have the most depth and talent on paper that they've had since the 2007 season where they were marginally competitive and a win away from being Bowl eligible.

So you can imagine my chagrin when the Cougars were down 7-0 in a matter of seconds, yet again. Paul Wulff has still never led a game in regulation against a FBS team [Author Edit: Hans't led a FBS game since 2008. I'm a dummy]. Down 17-0 at the end of the first (hey, we're only down something like 13623-3 in first quarter scoring since 2008). The team showed flashes of potential, but flashes of potential don't show up on the scoreboard. Which is the problem.

That brings me back to the X-Files poster. I want to believe. I wish I could sit here and write that the system will work. That we're about to turn the corner. But the fact remains that the last two years have been historically bad. Worst or close to worst in the country in just about every imaginable statistical category (except, of course, for punting yards). 2010 was supposed to provide relief. 6.6 yards per rushing attempt yesterday (we gave up 5.78/att. in the infamous 2008 season) and 65 points later it would appear there is no corner in sight, much less one to turn.

I hope I'm proven wrong. That Montana State gives us a blowout in the other direction, the SMU game goes to the wire and the Cougs hit their stride and compete in Pac-10 play. However, I think it's borderline delusional to think that at this point. I'm not going to stop rooting for the Cougs, nor should you, but the ship has begun to sail. It looks as if this is the beginning of the end of the Paul Wulff era. And if game midseason rolls around and the Cougs are still getting blasted, I have no problem with making an abrupt change.

Yes, Oklahoma State was just one game.

But, for me, it was one game too many.

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I'll let you guys argue out if he should stay or go...

But there are lessons to learn from the Willingham era:

… It is possible to do many things right while still not getting the job done
… Change comes with a short term price to pay which makes us put it off as long as possible
… Players will keep saying they support the coach, even when the disease of complacency has set in
… Supporters of continuity have a point
… As do supporters of change
… Times of coaching hot seats will bring out the worst in fan to fan interaction – especially on the internet (NegaDawgs are gone but not forgotten)
… Mid-season changes cannot end well, but are almost always the case even if not “officially announced”
… Injuries and youth are correlated with all hot seats – its just an unpleasant reality

Most fans already knew that Ty wasn’t going to work out by year 3. However, the thought of more change in a program that was young, had hope (Locker), and had suffered horrible injuries seemed unbearable. And then, 0-12 happened.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 5, 2010 4:44 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Great points

Nothing fun about losing. Fans get angry at fans, team chemistry suffers, general negativity ensues.

I’m just thankful there’s a game next week and not next year.

Writer: CougCenter Twitterer: @GradyClapp

by Grady Clapp on Sep 5, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, and the truth is that a mid-season official coaching change is a worst-case scenario

Since the decision was already made to keep him, Wulff ought to have the chance to fight for his job all the way to the end. Its the only way to keep the team together and working towards improvement (not to mention recruiting). Whether or not you believe in him is an issue for the off-season.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 5, 2010 5:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think that's fair

And realistically the most likely scenario

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by Grady Clapp on Sep 5, 2010 10:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

RE: Great Points

Agreed with everything you said there. Its hard to post in here without being overbearingly negative. WSU is my school and the Cougs are my team. I am looking forward to next week and just getting a taste of winning and competing. I look at so many games on TV and I become envious of the fans that are able to show up and have something to cheer for and get excited. There is a lot of season left to show improvement, but I wanted to think that the Cougs had reached a new plateau, and that clearly didn’t seem to be the case last night.

by CougarIKE on Sep 5, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stockholm Syndrome

It’s not a perfect analogy, but I think there’s some truth to it in this regard – I think fans of beaten-down programs can develop a sort of “Stockholm Syndrome” where they believe the situation a coach has inherited is so awful that there’s not much more that he can reasonably be doing, and to just have more patience because the situation was so bad, how can any reasonable person expect more than what he’s done, yadda yadda yadda.

As a Husky fan, I’ve seen that quite a bit in recent years, and I think a similar thing is happening with some Cougar fans.

In the case of Husky fans, some will tell you that things were trending so badly under Rick Neuheisel that the 1-10 disaster in Gilby’s 2nd season was almost inevitable, and that Neuheisel was more to blame for that horrible season than Gilby. And some people insisted that the situation Ty inherited was so awful that Ty needed 5 years to turn things around, that his first season 2-9 was inevitable, blah blah blah. I don’t buy it – those results were not inevitable. Yes, both Gilby and Ty inherited less than ideal situations, but each made the situation they inherited worse (and you’ll likely see Gekko disagree with me on both counts).

I won’t pretend to know anywhere near as much as you guys about the situation Wulff inherited. I’m sure it was bad. And I know Wulff is trying to build for the long haul and not load up on J.C. guys, and the Cougs typically have to target under the radar guys that have potential if developed properly over 4-5 years. All that said, I still find it remarkable that some Cougar fans would consider a 1-win season in year 3 of Wulff to be acceptable, so long as the losses were somewhat competitive. It strikes me that a feeling of inevitability has set in – that some feel the program was in such utterly disastrous shape when Wulff took over that the results that have followed were inevitable.

I guess I just don’t buy it. I think a better coach has this team winning more and not getting blown out in embarrassing fashion so often.

I totally agree that continuity in coaching is better than not having continuity, but what’s even more important than having continuity is having a good coach. I just don’t see the evidence on the field that Wulff is a good FBS program coach.

by kirkd on Sep 6, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

For a husky fan...

I greatly appreciated your insight. Thanks for posting.

by IrishCoug on Sep 6, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

well...

…my Dad is a Coug. He deserves a better program to root for. The guys here at CougCenter run a first class operation and you’ve all built a great community – you deserve a better program to root for. And Mike Price proved that the Cougs can rise up and have runs of great success. Is Wulff giving you guys an advantage on the sidelines over his counterparts? I have my doubts…

by kirkd on Sep 6, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sturdy is not good at his job

I’m not a big CPW hater, although that may change over the next few weeks. The guy I put a lot of this on is Todd Sturdy. He is in way over his head. For some reason Wulff thinks Sturdy is a great football mind, but the last time I checked, the best coaches don’t hide out at St. Ambrose University for 10+ years. Sturdy did, then one year at Eastern and the next year he is a Pac-10 coach. How the hell does that work? Good coaches move up the ranks (see Urban Meyer), they don’t coach the Fighting Bees for a decade. The same argument can be made with Wulff and his long tenure at Eastern but I see Sturdy as a real weak link on the staff…maybe that is because we don’t score any points and he is on year 3 getting this high octane offense installed.

by dflynnwsu on Sep 5, 2010 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Not sure what to think about this statement regarding the missed tackles
Assistant head coach and co-defensive coordinator Chris Ball took the blame, saying that in an effort to keep players healthy he cut back on some of the contact in fall camp.

Per cougfan article.

I do like what Rankin had to say at the end of the article.

by spencer peaty on Sep 5, 2010 7:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Tackling

Wasn’t that part of why Oregon State always started slow was because the coaches didn’t want to wear out their players in camp?
I can’t say I blame Ball for making that decision given how many injuries the team has sustained the past couple seasons. We had a bunch of guys coming off injury and the last thing we needed were more LeAndre Daniels’s and Jordan Pu’u Robinsons’s.
Ok State was probably not the best opponent coming out of the gate with the lack of full speed contact during camp. Practicing form tackling is useless when its not full speed. Besides, not many teams are able to practicing against a running back like Hunter. Montana State SHOULD be a game where we can perfect our fundamentals in preparation for the rest of the season.

by sdcoug09 on Sep 5, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

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I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh

by HitKing69 on Sep 6, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

The biggest thing that bugs me about Wulff

is that I’ve never once heard him take the blame for the results on the field. Coach Ball did just that.

by wazzustudent2 on Sep 6, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great article Grady.

Seeing the Cougs win or at least be competitive would be good. Seeing the Cougs win consistently would be better. Seeing the Cougs win consistently with CPW would be best.

Would be….

by DarrowStreet on Sep 5, 2010 8:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Exactly how I feel

Maybe this is like that point in a movie where you lose all faith that the good guy is going to win, and then he ends up winning anyway.

Then we all go out for ice cream!

Seriously, though, I can’t tell you how much I want to be wrong.

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by Grady Clapp on Sep 5, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wulff's status

I feel that it is a bit premature to be calling for Wulff to be fired. It was one game, granted it was embarrassing, disappointing, etc, but it was one game. Montana State and SMU will be more telling about the coaching staff than OSU. It will show how they will adjust and fix the mistakes that occurred yesterday. From what I saw, the players were frequently in the right position but failed to execute. So we have the players that are good enough to get in position to make plays and now it is up to the coaches to coach and improve execution. Wulff deserves his chance to coach and develop the players that he recruited. The team that went out yesterday was young and inexperienced and when faced with an experienced opponent on the road the result was almost inevitable. How the team responds will come down coaching.
Wulff gets his chance and the next two weeks will show whether or not he is cut out to be a DI/BCS/Pac-10 coach, until I have a larger game sample with which to evaluate, the jury is still out for me.

by sdcoug09 on Sep 5, 2010 8:17 PM PDT reply actions  

small sample size????

A 3-23 record with a history of drubbings like last night isn’t exactly a small sample. Its certainly enough to start turning on the heat. I have defended him up until about last night which was my shift from, “give him a chance” to “time to show something.” He needs to win a PAC 10 game this year. Just one to have a chance to keep his job IMO.

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by CougarIKE on Sep 5, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I will always support my team. But no one can use the “young team” excuse 3 years in. Im not asking to go to bowl games every year. but winning just a few games would be nice. And when we do lose, can we not get blown out by 20 (30,40,50) points?

by Matt Olsen on Sep 5, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

what?

Look at the roster- the Cougs are 75% frosh, RS frosh and sophs— any way you shake it out , that is young. This is Wulff’s third season… he had 6 seniors of any quality in ‘08. Seven in ’09. Where are they? Count the seniors on this year roster. How can you say it is an excuse when it is the plain, simple and sad truth. You can’t just make a freshman a junior… that takes three seasons. His first true set of recruits was ‘09. They are RS’s and sophs. ‘08 was gathered in 5 weeks… look over the personnel and see it for what it is… young. They play like it- they lack strength and experience… it isn’t an excuse. it’s true.

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by hollyweirdcoug on Sep 6, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Small sample size this year.

If it is indeed “time to show something” then he needs to be allowed more than one game to do it. That’s what I was getting at. This year, the team is finally mostly kids he recruited. We need to play more than one game to more accurately judge whether or not Wulff can coach at this level.

by sdcoug09 on Sep 6, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

we also led against Baylor in 2008 too

we’ve led for a total of 9:30 in the Paul Wulff era.

by BigWood on Sep 5, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

ask or axe?

Because I think you just asked us to spray Axe deoderant body spray on your wife.

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by Grady Clapp on Sep 5, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow, I was at that game too

I feel very stupid.

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by Grady Clapp on Sep 5, 2010 10:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Embarassed to admit it...

Montana State put up 50+ points Saturday. I’m embarassed to admit that I’m a little worried for the next game if they are capable of putting up those kinds of numbers and the Cougs are not tackling well.

by Lone_Star's_Ghost on Sep 5, 2010 11:56 PM PDT reply actions  

I hear Fort Lewis is pretty good this year

They beat a very tough McChord AFB team and gave them all they could handle.

by DesMoines on Sep 6, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope you are right

It may not be a great indicator, but it shows that Montana State can score. Look at what Jackson St. did to Ole Miss. I am confident that won’t happen to the Cougs, but I am still a little worried. I’m not hopping on the “Fire Wulff” wagon yet, hopefully a convincing win against MSU will quiet some of those folks.

by Lone_Star's_Ghost on Sep 6, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Settle down, Moos will do what's necessary

We have both coaches and players who need to develop and adapt in order to succeed, this year or whatever year. We’ve got some good talent on the field, but it’s young and inexperienced. It needs time; there is no substitute for time, though we all wish there were in times like these. The players have time. The incoming recruits look promising, and they have time, too. I don’t know about the coaches. That’s up to Bill Moos, and, fortunately for us Cougs, he’s mature and experienced. I have total confidence that he will make the right decisions.

In the meantime, I’m going to refrain from “eating my liver”; I’m going to enjoy the season, regardless of the results on the field. Though we never had a winning season during my years there, I still love Pullman and Wazzu for what they are and the people I met there. I don’t know how the team will do against MSU this weekend, but I know I will be there and, once again, it will be a good party. Hope to see you at the Coug, the field house, or in spirit wherever you may be, as Bob would say. Because it’s Pullman and it’s still special. Cheers and Go Cougs!

by HDCoug on Sep 6, 2010 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

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