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The Case For C.J. Mizell

It was apparent watching the Oklahoma State game that the Cougar linebacking corps was a problem. Losing middle linebacker Louis Bland -- probably the surest tackler on the team -- hurts this team more than any other injury has this year. Our middle linebackers were pushed around and it created a gaping hole in the middle of the defense. In a defense that relies on the play of its linebackers, that simply cannot happen.

All hope isn't lost, however. C.J. Mizell was a bright spot and showed exactly why the coaching staff was high on him in the short amount of time he was on the field Saturday. He's not assignment-sound --nor did we expect him to be -- but he has the raw talent to make plays.

At one point duing the game, Mizell threw an Oklahoma State running back down -- literally grabbed him with one arm and tossed him to the ground -- and stood over him as if to say "that's all you got?" Later, Mizell missed a tackle, got up, recovered and made the tackle five yards down the field. These are the kind of things we need to see out of the Cougar linebackers.

Start Mizell. In fact, start him this week and just let him go. Let him get his feet wet and work out the kinks at game-speed against Montana State and see what happens. Getting reps in practice will only go so far for him right now and letting him run around in a game may be exactly what he needs.

The coaching staff has always said they want to get the most talented players on the field. Mizell is one of those talented players. If understanding of the scheme is the only thing holding him back, he can overcome that with his size and speed until his brain catches up.

During the game, Jeff remarked that Mizell looked like a guy that hadn't played football in a year and just wanted to hit people. The Cougars need someone like that right now and adding him to the mix can only help a defense that got lit up by the Cowboys. It's time for Mizell to start.

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Agree 110 percent.

I don’t care if it’s not mathematically correct. This is the perfect spot for him to figure some things out. Watching Ledgerwood get not just blocked, but COMPLETELY WASHED OUT on that horrible defensive play Yaaaardsma giffed showed me all I need to know.

I’m not generally reactionary (news flash, right?), but this is one change that needs to be made immediately.

by Jeff Nusser on Sep 7, 2010 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Now that he cant redshirt I completely agree.

It’s one thing if you take a guy who could help you and redshirt him for long term reasons. Once that redshirt is burned, however, they need to play. Same with Fullington, these guys need 40+ snaps during meaningful parts of the game.

by Mark Sandritter on Sep 7, 2010 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Mizell

Is incredibly talented as well as a pretty smart kid (seemed like it to me,) so his game knowledge and scheme knowledge should catch up relatively fast. Also, watching practice I know that the players like him. Encouraging him and getting pumped when he made big plays, which was quite often. Get CJ in on Saturday, it’s necessary.

-Brett G.
-Daily Evergreen Staff Sports Writer

by Brett the 49er on Sep 7, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

And until his knowledge catches up

He has great instincts. Im not comparing his actual skill to Patrick Willis, but the thing he does have in common with Willis when he was in his first year with the 49ers was his ability to always be near the tackle at the end of a play, if not making the tackle himself. Always puts himself in the right position to make a play.

-Brett G.
-Daily Evergreen Staff Sports Writer

by Brett the 49er on Sep 7, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please play Mizell!

While we are at it I would move Rankin out to end and use Kooyman as a backup. At tackle, move in Clayton, Hoffart, Laurenzie, and Pole once he is healthy. Throw Mizell outside or at MLB and turn him lose on the QB. Maybe Bucannon can work his way into one of the safety spots.

On offense, Wilson is clearly a starter with Barton pushing for the slot spot, and I would expect Kristoff Williams to get a lot of reps once he is healthy. Continue to get Monty reps but Staden was the only back that looked good on most of his carries whether there was room or no room.

Grippi says Roxas has worked himself back in at LG. Why not move Jacobson out to LT and Gonzales to RT until Fullington becomes the starter at RT? Hannam just has not show he has the talent for tackle, IMHO.

by BornCoug on Sep 7, 2010 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

MSU is on

one of the sport package channels at 4pm according to comcast.

by BornCoug on Sep 7, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

DISH-TV

On my DISH network guide the game is showing up on channel 447 (FSN Alt) for Saturday.

"A bad day at the track is better than a good day at the office."

by Matt Gardner on Sep 7, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like that shift a lot

but it the interior of the DL would really worry me at that point. I think Rankin is a better fit for DE personally, but I remain unconvinced that is the best move for the team. Maybe put him out there on passing downs? He is kind of a liability at DT against the run, but then again it could probably be a strength for him out on the edge. The loss of Turpin, Spitz and Lapuaho really hurt right now. Rankin on the edge with legit guys inside could be excellent, but I don’t see our starters being Wolfgramm and Laurenzi and us having much success against the run.

With the O-Line, if Roxas is going to be the guy at LG I would put Jacobson out at RT because Gonzales won the spot straight out, and I am just taking a stab here but I imagine it is because he is the better pass blocker. Let Jacobson and Hannam fight it out at RT until Fullington forces the issue and plays his way onto the field. However, I would be happy leaving the O Line intact as it is, namely because I thought they were vastly improved to the Line I saw in practice, and I think finally having some continuity for them allowed them to begin playing well. They weren’t world beaters by any means but I think we can all agree that they were not the worst unit on the field saturday, and had you asked me on Friday what our worst unit was, I would’ve said our O Line 12 times outta 10.

by Fightfightfight on Sep 7, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Markle looked good to me also….he was what 3-ish on the team in tackles and didn’t play every snap. AHE and Ledgerwood may be on their to backing up those two.

by ESinNorCal on Sep 7, 2010 12:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Does anyone know where to find clips of Mizell's plays on Saturday?

I was in Missoula watching the game until the idea of driving home to Spokane seemed more pleasurable than watching the second half.

by Couginthepink on Sep 7, 2010 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

anyone worried that mizzel is not physically ready for an every down thrashing?

Given all the consternation around injuries, I’d expect a more cautious tone.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 7, 2010 1:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Not at all

At 6-2, 225 I feel like he’s physically ready for whatever. With a year off — we’ll just call it a redshirt year even though it wasn’t — he’s more mature than your typical freshman.

by Brian Floyd on Sep 7, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's more tha tafu

It takes one showng to know Mizel is the real deal.

by BornCoug on Sep 7, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

by all means, start the man

He’s really 225? He didn’t look it from the few clips I saw…but my TV sucks

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 7, 2010 1:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Listed at 225 so you never really know.

I’d guess he’s around that, but I’m curious to get a look at him in person.

by Brian Floyd on Sep 7, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

This might sound weird

But I just love the fact that he actually passes the eye test. He simply looks physical.

by Jeff Nusser on Sep 7, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is at least 225.

The first practice I went too I saw him on the sidelines and my jaw dropped. When I checked the program and saw it was Mizell I was SHOCKED, he looks bigger than 3/4 of the guys on the team already.

by Fightfightfight on Sep 7, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree on starting Mizell

We have no big hitters in the starting lineup, it seemed the starters did everything they could to avoid contact. The first play for OSU after the fumble, not only did AHE start seven yards deep, but he had no outside contain making it an easy decision for Hunter to bounce it outside for a big gain. This crap happened the whold time, bad angles, bad tackling, just epically bad LB play bottom line. Markle also seems to not have any hitting ability. Two seperate plays he was there in position and got drove back at least seven yards by the running back. Maybe bulk up Locker and Atofau, because I think those two and Mizell might be our three hardest hitters.

by dertingfactor on Sep 7, 2010 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

CJ Mizell is physically legit and very talented.

Having watched a lot of practices this summer, I can tell you that he is ready to play serious snaps, but I wouldn’t start him. He is a force against the run in every sense of the word. He reads the offense well and explodes through gaps and blockers to make very sure tackles. However, he looks fairly lost in coverage, which happens to be Ledgerwoods best attribute. He didn’t show much rushing the passer (from what I saw), which again is a relative strength for Ledge.

AHE and Beck both had fairly good games (AHE looked sloppy tackling though) and I don’t think Mizell should start over those two. Ledge is still the more complete player as well, but like AHE struggled getting players(Kendall Hunter) to the turf when they made contact.

I’m beginning to think that the tackling woes of our LBs may have to do with the added lbs they put on during the offseason. Growth like that (Both Ledge and AHE put on 20 or 25) can make the act of wrapping up change, which takes getting used to. Both Ledge and AHE have been solid tacklers in their careers, but both had an awful game tackling wise. For comparison, Lofa Tatupus tackling has gotten markedly worse over the years while he has put on a significant amount of weight.

Anyways, I too want to see Mizell on the field for plenty of snaps, especially on running downs and with running personnel from the offense, which I felt was one of the cougs biggest problems against OK state. They were running out of a 3 back set and we had 5 defensive backs on the field. He is certainly too talented to not see the field, but he needs to be put in a position to be successful.

by Fightfightfight on Sep 7, 2010 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

You're right

Mizell’s strength does appear to be the run game. At the very least I’d like to see him on the field in obvious run situations. I do also want to see him in coverage at times, just to see how he handles it. Ledgerwood may be good in coverage, but he looked downright atrocious against the run on Saturday (again, only one game).

I wouldn’t play Mizell outside, either. Beck was great and although AHE had a tough game, he’s still a very good player. I didn’t really like what I saw from Hoffman-Ellis Saturday, but I don’t think it’s any cause for concern. He was doing small things wrong that can be fixed.

I’ve got no doubt Mizell will catch up to the scheme and assignments, but at the very least I really want to see him on the field with more regularity.

by Brian Floyd on Sep 7, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is probably the most talented guy on the team.

And will see time this year, that is for sure. I just like Ledge, I thought he was assignment correct (mostly) and suffered from a serious inability to tackle Kendall Hunter, a condition that affected the entire team. Mizell never had a chance to tackle Hunter, so we don’t actually know how well that would have gone.

by Fightfightfight on Sep 7, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

And I should’ve made it more of a point in the article. Mizell did face the second-team so take it for what it’s worth.

I thought he was assignment correct (mostly) and suffered from a serious inability to tackle Kendall Hunter, a condition that affected the entire team

I agree. At the same time, he just couldn’t match up physically with OSU. The MLB has to be stronger than he was Saturday. It’s only one game and I know he’s better than that.

by Brian Floyd on Sep 7, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know about their comparative strength numbers

but Ledge looks like one of the strongest dudes on the team, certainly one of the guys who looks like a Pac-10 player, at least off the the field.

Football is about timing more than pure strength. It looked like our defense was a half second behind their offense, and it made all the difference. Ledge gets washed out in that .gif from yaaaardsma, but what I see there is a guy put in a bad position by his DE (Long), and he doesn’t see the LT coming til a half step before he gets hit, which was a full on sideways blast that sent him reeling. Ledge is big enough to handle that kind of block, but only when he sees it coming and reacts appropriately, either by avoiding it over the top or powering through it.

by Fightfightfight on Sep 7, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn't just that block

There were a few times where he was squared up on Hunter and bounced off. There was one time where he did bounce off but grabbed an ankle and hung on for dear life.

Again, though, Hunter is a big, physical back. He’s damn good, so I can understand why they had a hard time bringing him down.

by Brian Floyd on Sep 7, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to see Mizell in the game, if he earns it.

Regardless of what happened last Saturday in Stillwater I still believe the program is heading in the right direction. And the program can only move in the right direction at a certain and slow pace….unfortunately. The report that I read Sunday stated that the coaching staff likes what Mizell brings to the game and that there is no doubt he’ll be a starter sooner rather than later. The thing that stands out in that report was that the coaches needed Mizell to earn his place in games, at practice. Paul Wulff said that he needs to see more consistant effort from Mizell at practice. I believe when the consistant effort at practice comes from Mizell, he’ll be given the opportunity to lead our defense. Has anyone been to a Cougar football practice lately that can shed some light on the statement that coach Wulff made about more consistant effort at practice?

by Hare on Sep 7, 2010 5:20 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree w/ this point on earning it

I am not certain he is ready to start- I watched a few practices and he looked sort of lost out there. But his recovery speed and the licks he put on folks were impressive. He also ran really well on special teams. Sorenson wrote a good piece on the D and stated he felt CJ wasn’t ready yet. I need to read Grippi still… But I also feel that it is far too early to dump Ledgerwood. He had some very tough downs vs. Ok St. ; but let’s not forget 13 tackles vs. the dawgs to end last year had us feeling good about him. I think waiting is good. One game isn’t a good enough view. I think the Cougs prepped for a heavy passing attack and the LB’s were pretty far off the line. Reaction was slow- for all of them- and Ledge ate a center or guard many of the counter plays. Mizell will be a great LB— tossing him into the fray based on one game sends a bad message I think. He’ll get there if he is “all that”, as many say.
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by hollyweirdcoug on Sep 8, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

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