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WSU Regents OK Design Of Expansion Of Martin Stadium

This is an artist's rendering of what the original "Phase III" project at Martin Stadium might look like. This premium seating will now be located on the south side of the stadium, where the current press box is located.

This won't come as an enormous shock to anyone who knows how politics work, but the WSU Board of Regents today officially approved an expansion of Martin Stadium the design phase of the expansion of Martin Stadium, expected to cost around $5 million of the overall $70 million project.

EDIT NUSS, 1:10 p.m.: I just didn't read the fine print close enough. The board has not given its final approval on the overall project, as detailed here by Grippi. He's also got some quotes from Moos you won't find elsewhere. My guess is that this minor detail doesn't mean much in the overall scheme of things. The board probably just wants to make sure it knows exactly what it's approving, which seems wise.

Athletics Director Bill Moos said he expects to fund the proposal -- which includes premium seating, a football operations center and a new press box -- through donations and premium seating revenue, while also leaving open the possibility of using some of the increased revenue brought in by Pac-12 media rights and expansion. The firm cost has not yet been nailed down.

The timeline, I think, is the most impressive part of this. Moos hopes to begin demolition immediately following the final 2011 home game against Utah and have the premium seating and press box -- to be located on the south side of the stadium to provide easy premium parking access to the art building garage -- completed prior to the 2012 season. The football operations building (off the west side of the stadium) would likely be completed early in 2013. 

This is fantastic, if not surprising news. Former AD Jim Sterk once estimated that the premium seating alone would double WSU's gameday revenue, something that's important in order to get better nonconference opponents into Martin Stadium. With the remote nature of Pullman being its own unchangeable deterrent, being able to offer an attractive payday to someone becomes critical. We simply haven't had that. 

But in a lot of ways, I think this project is more about the football operations facility to Moos. He tabled the premium seating talk initially, saying that he thought it was probably better to invest in facilities that the athletes are going to use on a daily basis. If you want to know how importantly he views this facility, check out this quote from about four months ago:

"You see things across the country any more, and it’s a big attraction for recruits.

"I’ll give you a little illustration. I believe it was 28 years of losing football at Oregon State (the Beavers had 28 consecutive losing seasons from 1971-98), and they made the decision to put some resources and energy into building an end-zone facility there.

"Upon completion, four years later -- one recruiting cycle -- they were co-champions of the Pac-10 and beat Notre Dame ... in the Fiesta Bowl and finished fourth in the nation (in the final Associated Press Top 25 poll for 2000)."

This project allows Moos to both honor the donations previously pledged for premium seating and build the facility that he thinks will have a tangible impact on the quality of player WSU is able to attract to Pullman. It's a win-win for everyone involved.

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Wooooooo!

Im excited. He said in his chat yesterday they were also looking at beasley.

"And here commmmmmmme the Buckeyyyyyyyyyes" ~Brent Musberger

by Coug999 on Jan 28, 2011 1:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

After this is done, Beasley needs a total face-lift.

Unless you’re in the lower bowl, it’s a crappy place to watch a game. They need to do what UW did — make it smaller and more intimate.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 28, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

My bro noticed this on tv and I had never noticed before.

For some reason the upper seats are orange.

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by Coug999 on Jan 28, 2011 2:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

And at the very top the back of one scoreboard blocks the other.

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by Coug999 on Jan 28, 2011 2:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I really don't think

the upper bowl is a bad place to watch a game. I have been at the top row and thought it was just fine and I have below average eye sight. I like that we have a big arena because when it is full like it will be on Sunday it is an incredible atmosphere.

We do need to paint the upper bowl seats crimson, get a mega-tron that hangs from the roof at center court for a scoreboard/video screen, and a general makeover of the concourse and locker room areas would be necessary.

My cousin came from Utah and watched the Kansas State game and said he liked it a lot more than hec ed.

by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Jan 28, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Off topic but also in the chat.

New uni’s april 11. Just an all around good news day today.

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by Coug999 on Jan 28, 2011 3:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Nice!

Hope they’re not introducing them at TRAC in the Tri-Cities again. I’ve been to that place twice, once for a wedding reception and once for a cattle auction.

by dslagg on Jan 28, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Perfect!

I happen to live in Spokane, and plan to be there!

by dslagg on Jan 28, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Great!

I live close to Joe Albi Stadium, it just gets better and better!

by dslagg on Jan 28, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't totally agree

They just need to adjust the areas where the views of the scoreboard are obstructed, and do the locker rooms/offices. I think the view of the floor is fantastic everywhere in the arena, sans behind the camera lifts.

Don’t forget though that it is also a performing arts center, so that must be taken into account when talking renovations to Beasley.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jan 28, 2011 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

I have been to my fair share of arenas

Honestly, I think Beasley blows Hec Ed out of the water. Better seats and its not 10,000 degrees. The view of the floor from most of the arena is great. The concourses are wide and the concession stands are bountiful. The worst area I would say are the number of bathrooms, but even those lines (For men anyways) move quickly.

Just curious what you think is so bad about Beasley.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jan 28, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Hec Ed

It’s so intimate — the crowd is right on top of the action. No, the upper rafters aren’t real pleasant, but in terms of atmosphere, it just can’t be beat.

Honestly, the main issue for me is those interior concourses. Once you get above those, you’re so far from the action and feel quite removed from the rest of the crowd. I feel like I’m watching the crowd that’s watching the game. For as many people as that place can seat, I don’t think it’s as intimidating as it could be.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 28, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

No doubt that an update would help

Hell the place is what, 30+ years old?

I thought the painting of the concourse walls this season was a nice touch.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jan 28, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Being built in the era of multipurpose buildings didn't help

It’s not bad in that respect. But I would love it if they could figure out a way to make it more intimate.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 28, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It really just needs a simple face lift.

Clear some rafter space, newer seats and get a better scoreboard system. They can’t really do much else without just starting over.

by newportcoug on Jan 28, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

And the building is not old enough or in bad enough shape to start over.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jan 28, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

the locker rooms need help

I haven’t seen them, but word on the street is it’s a dungeon down there

I agree with everything else you said.

by woolybugger on Jan 28, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

i hate any arena that has 30-40 people on one bench

not to mention the rows are so close to each other and there are no seatbacks so you’re dealing with knees in your back the whole game.

i won’t go to a game at Hec Ed unless I get very good seats, which are hard to come by for the WSU game.

by BigWood! on Jan 28, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The last handful of rows in the arena are awful, no doubt

However, I had a bleep ton of fun up there partying during the wins in our streak under the Bennetts. WSU fans had gobbled up all those tickets. We just stood the whole time.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 28, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Under the Bennett'S?

Sorry im only familiar with one Bennett. Dick Bennett

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by Coug999 on Jan 28, 2011 2:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm with B-Lot

I think a bigger yet still somewhat intimate arena is great. Our student section is massive and that brings a real presence. The zzu crew is way bigger than the dog pound. As I said above the view from the upper lever isn’t bad at all I have had top row in the corners and they are fine. I just would hate to have a tiny arena like GU or UW and have to pay a fortune to go to a big game. Check this out cost of ticket to go to WSU/GU game in Spokane $100 on craigslist (only place available). cost of WSU/GU ticket in Pullman $25 bought from the wsu website. I’ll take my slighty higher seat and keep my $75.

That being said there are definitely plenty of upgrades that I mentioned above that need to be done.

by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Jan 28, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It's Zzu Cru.

I think the student section might be the best in the Pac (in terms of # of seats). UCLA seems like the only other school that does what we do.

by newportcoug on Jan 28, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Kind of off topic, but since we are talking about the stadium..

I wish they would bring the rail direct to Pullman. I would love to be able to hop the Amtrak with a bunch of fellow Cougar faithful and ride out there for the game.

It would also be nice if Moos worked out a charter deal with Alaska Airlines to run extra planes from Portland/Seattle out there on game days. If I could get a $150 roundtrip out there it would make it more economical to head out for a game and then come back home.

Air options would also help out greatly with filling those box seats.

by Coug03 on Jan 28, 2011 1:36 PM PST reply actions  

Ya I was think if they made a direct flight to Pullman reasonable

people might take a morning flight, catch a shuttle from PUW to the stadium or downtown for lunch then they can use the free bus system around town and to the game. Hit Sella’s after the game, catch a shuttle back to PUW for a short flight back home. You can day park at your local airport.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Jan 28, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

It might be a little pricey with tickets.

How about $200 for the flight and tickets?

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Jan 28, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Flights to pullman are insane.

I have a car but I was going home for a weekend and wanted to fly but a roundtrip to portland is like $350

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by Coug999 on Jan 28, 2011 2:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ya, way to expensive.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Jan 28, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Have to go through seattle or boise

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by Coug999 on Jan 28, 2011 2:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

It is supply and demand out there

1 flight from each city on a Saturday morning just does not cut it. They should fly those prop planes on the half hour for game days.

If WSU offered a package that was season tickets for $200-$250 per game per seat with airfare from Portland I would go to every home game. It is less about the money and more about making it less complicated. No logistics or hotels just a quick trip over to see the Cougs.

by Coug03 on Jan 28, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Bingo!

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Jan 28, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The press box?

So I’m assuming the press box will be in the construction. Just a little confused.

by dslagg on Jan 28, 2011 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

It is good to have a nice press box,

so the press gives us better press. This in turn may give us better coverage. Then the press (besides Petros Papadakis who talks nice about us) may talk nice about Pullman (in the press). How many times can you fit press in a comment? I think it is a pressing issue to get these press boxes done asap, we are pressed for time, because we want the stadium looking good for recruits and alumni asap.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Jan 28, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Right now the press box is relying on AMAZING cookies

I think it’s enough. Seriously.
Every game in the 4th quarter they bring around the best cookies I have ever had. Fresh baked chocolate chip cookies. Amazing.

Cougar Basketball 2010-2011: *But Wait... There's Moore!*
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by GoCougs on Jan 28, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I would really need to see a picture to understand what's going on

I understand the whole press box thing, but I don’t totally understand the football facility on the west end. Where’s it going to go exactly? Is it just going to be built over Rogers field? Admittedly, I haven’t read all the stories, but none of the ones I have have explained that to me.

Cougar Basketball 2010-2011: *But Wait... There's Moore!*
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by GoCougs on Jan 28, 2011 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

I don't think anybody knows

And that’s why regents only approved the ability to plan the improvements

by tclaus on Jan 28, 2011 3:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I would imagine it will be a lot lime Reser Stadium

But ya I’ve been wondering the same thing about the practice field.

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by Coug999 on Jan 28, 2011 3:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

In between Rogers and Martin

I’m thinking the scoreboard would be on the face of the building and some of those seats would go away. That actually gives you a lot of room for a weight room and locker room.

But really I have no idea.

by newportcoug on Jan 28, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

In one of his radio programs

Moos said he envisioned the football building around 3 stories tall and connected in some way around the edge to the press box/suites. I really don’t get how this works. It would have to be behind the stands if it is that tall.

by spencer peaty on Jan 28, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought I heard 4 or 5 stories.

But it’s all rumors I suppose.

"And here commmmmmmme the Buckeyyyyyyyyyes" ~Brent Musberger

by Coug999 on Jan 28, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I work in commercial construction

and was part of building the Galen Center. You can easily keep the seating and make a three story building underneath it or more. I was also apart of CSUFullerton’s athletic complex and they made a basement that had a in-ground jogging pool for rehabbing injuries. Each story may be a little smaller to accommodate the seating that runs at a slant. The picture below can give you an idea, but Martin will be a much smaller version and probably will not have a second deck. This is just for a visual, you can actually get real creative with this. It would be cool to have top floor for weight lifting with windows that look over the field. They can build out further in the back and even make it radius. This can be altered various ways, but I hope you get the gist of what I am getting at.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Jan 28, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Quick little sketch to help visualize.

Sorry the quality is bad, but I whipped it out pretty quick. Gotta love Paint.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Jan 28, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

He eventually will just usurp power from Floyd right?

"And here commmmmmmme the Buckeyyyyyyyyyes" ~Brent Musberger

by Coug999 on Jan 28, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

There will be riots in the streets as Floyd refuseds to give up power

Then eventually the administration would shut down the internet

Cougar Basketball 2010-2011: *But Wait... There's Moore!*
SBNation Seattle Contributer -- WSU Daily Evergreen Newspaper columnist -- Twitter: @JeffdCollier

by GoCougs on Jan 28, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe that will be on November 5th next year,

to coincide with the hacker’s call to rise up against the squirrels of Pullman.

"And here commmmmmmme the Buckeyyyyyyyyyes" ~Brent Musberger

by Coug999 on Jan 28, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Or December 21st 2012

who knew the end of the world would start in Pullman, WA.

by newportcoug on Jan 28, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm thinking he goes Vladamir Putin

Gives up the AD (prime minister) position and just creates a new and meaningless position; something like CEO of Athletics (president of Russia) just to control the entire department.

And I’d be alright with that. As long as he doesn’t turn out as creepy as Putin.

Don't give up, don't ever give up. -Jim Valvano

by Michael The Coug on Jan 28, 2011 6:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Holy crap!!!

I’m in the artists rendition of thenew Martin stadium!!!

by tclaus on Jan 28, 2011 5:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Haha

Is that you walking down the stairs?

by cfred on Jan 29, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

No

Not really, I just thought I’d be funny

by tclaus on Jan 29, 2011 7:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

This is pretty cool!

“…the remote nature of Pullman being its own unchangeable deterrent…”

Someone explain to me why WSU is in Pullman? I’m sure it made sense a long time ago, but I have always been curious as to this issue. It seems like they could get away with a 50,000+ seat stadium and be successful in Spokane…

Welcome to the Sound Pound...

by SoundPound on Jan 29, 2011 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

My understanding

is that it is

a) a land grant college and

b) started as an agricultural college. So it was less wanting to be in Pullman and more this being the spot that was available.

"And here commmmmmmme the Buckeyyyyyyyyyes" ~Brent Musberger

by Coug999 on Jan 29, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

It's hard to move anything once the tradition is there.

As Coug999 said, it’s a land grant college and started with (and still has) a large agriculture department. WSU still has, from my understanding, a significant amount of unused land around the Pullman.

I’ve heard rumors of relocating the “main campus” tag to the Vancouver campus, but I find it hard to believe that will ever actually happen.

People often reference Pullman’s location as a deterrent, especially with regards to recruiting and media coverage. The media issue is hard to argue – TV coverage doesn’t happen in Pullman unless the game means something or the team is very good. And while I agree that the location is an interesting challenge, I just can’t think of it as an absolute deterrent. There is something to be said for a college town atmosphere in the middle of nowhere. Sure, it will deter some kids, but it may also draw others in.

I always told my friends that went to UW (or other urban universities) that it’s impossible to explain how Pullman changes when you live there. Visiting is interesting, but it doesn’t do the town justice. The challenge in recruiting – and defeating the “deterrent” stigma – is making kids believe that idea.

I’m not sure that you were suggesting WSU relocate, but I just wanted to give my two cents on the whole “deterrent” thought.

by Coug11 on Jan 29, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

In the context of my piece

The word deterrent was simply used in reference to scheduling. Opponents don’t want to come to Pullman.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 29, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course

The word just sent me on a tangent, that’s all.

by Coug11 on Jan 30, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

More accurately

We can’t pay them enough to come to Pullman.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jan 30, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not suggesting they relocate

but it would be much better for them and I would love to see the PAC-whatever in Spokane. Tradition is tradition, though.

Welcome to the Sound Pound...

by SoundPound on Jan 30, 2011 2:43 AM PST up reply actions  

It's more that tradition

Pullman is where the school has been for over 100 years. When can you tell me in American history that a school has packed up and moved its location. Can you even begin to imagine the facility construction costs? Not just for athletics, but for academics, residential and support.

I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh

by HitKing69 on Jan 30, 2011 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Back in the day....

I believe back in the day the state government decided they were going to build a state university and a state prison. I don’t remember how they decided, but one was going in Pullman and other was going in Walla Walla. I do agree the biggest obstacle to recruiting at WSU is location, but the school ain’t moving!

by dslagg on Jan 29, 2011 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

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