Jim Walden Wants To Know: 'Why Do I Have To Keep Explaining To The Stupid?'

This reminded me exactly of that. Which means I adored it. Good work sir.

I don’t agree with what Jim said, but I think his rant just inflamed an already irritated fan base. Cougar football has been abysmal and a running joke for the last 4 plus years, and I think Saturday night’s performance along with his rant was the final straw. I was angry and embarrassed like most of us and ready to fire CPW after Saturday’s game, and just felt hopeless. I think Cougar Nation just needs to take a deep breath and calm down, and just see how this season finishes. We have five games left four out of the five are winnable. With that being said, I think Wulff will not be back next season. I think a change is required. I like Jim and I always have, and have been criticized for supporting him. In this case he is dead wrong, and just because you don’t agree with doesn’t mean you have to crucify him. Yes he’s off his rocker, and eccentric but that’s what makes him entertaining. Coach Walden has done good things for this school (like being and advocate for having the Cougars stop playing in Spokane and play home games in Pullman) and he has said some questionable things. Don’t turn on him because he went off halfcocked, even though he is wrong you have to admire his passion. He’s an avid Cougar supporter; hell! He supports this university more than the one he graduated from. My gripe is that does it matter that he went to Wyoming? That’s not relevant to the argument, I didn’t graduate from WSU; does that make me less of a fan? It doesn’t your background or were you’re from, all it matters is you’re a Coug. My family is a bunch of Cougars, and I was born and raised as Cougar fan. Being a Washington State University fan always meant being a part of an extended family, you have some people in your family you dislike or don’t agree with; It’s just comes with the territory.

I cannot believe he was that bold in predicting what Moos and Floyd might do. I have a lot of confidence in Moos to make the right decision at the end of the year. For somebody that just left the Paul Wulff camp as of last Saturday, I cannot be all that vehement about him leaving. If Moos thinks he should stay, then I will turst that to be the right decision whether or not it is what I wanted.

You all are crazy.

For the first time I can empathize with the dawgfather….trying to make sense of the goofy things that inevitably fly from the Mouth of Walden.

Whenever he props up Wulff and the staff, I think a lot of casual fans look at that and think “he’s a former coach, he knows what he’s talking about.” The fact is, he has a vested interest in Wulff staying. Wulff and the staff include him in some things, let him give opinions. I don’t know that they use any of that stuff, but by letting him feel involved, he goes out on Saturday’s or whenever there is a mic, and does his Amhad Rashad/Michael Jordan routine.

Doba’s staff didn’t welcome him in the way Wulff does, which is why you never irrational defense of Doba the way you do of Wulff.

You’ve gotta remember that the guy is a former coach, so he probably sees everything that is going on from a different perspective than most (the perspective of a former head coach). Doesn’t give him to right to call out an entire fanbase though.

I don’t have links or direct quotes, but I remember Walden being very vocal when the search was just starting for Doba’s replacement and he basically said – they don’t need to waste the time searching when the guy for the job is right down the street in Spokane.

Similar to how most of us are when we are strongly supportive of an idea – Walden is just hanging on, hoping he doesn’t have to admit that he was wrong in his assessment of Wulff. If/when Wulff is let go at the end of the season, he’ll throw out the “we weren’t patient enough with Wulff.” When the new coach does well, that will be Wulff’s framework, if the new coach struggles – it’s an “I told you so” coming our way. It’s a good position Walden is putting himself in, only mistake was taking shots at the fanbase.

I’ll tell you exactly what Jim was trying to say. first off he said if you don’t donate or go to any games then you don’t have a right to have an opinion about the coaching. 2nd he believes that the recruiting and coaching are progressing at the pace it should be. 3rd, if you want a new coach who do you think you are going to get? NO top name guy is coming here so throw the idea that RichRod, Belloti Leach would even think of stepping in Pullman. big names get big jobs making $3-$4 million a year. Floyd flat out said a football coach can’t make more then him and got a $50k raise after Wulff was hired, plus remember, Floyd is an idiot that has admitted he knows nothing about football. So what are you going to do? Get a small college guy that has HC experience, an assistant that has no experience? the moral of the story is if you change the guy now you’ll have 3-4 more years of shit, so wait one more year and decide. Look at the team, mostly Freshman and Sophomores starting…. if they get 5-7 this year that is a good jump, next year 8-4 or better….. Patience! stay the plan…… and stop flapping your lips when you don’t support the team and in most cases no very little about building a program…..

I think you have called out Cougs enough and your points are not valid anymore. This fanbase has been more patient with the program, more than any other legitimate BCS fanbase. Including this season our record for the past 4 years is 8-36 and 3 of those wins are this year against horrible teams.

I know we had APR problems and coaching issues that got us to this point, but who’s fault is that really? Not the fanbase. We are not the one’s who chose these coaches or monitored the players. If this was a business (and not a public school) it would be out of business because of bad management decisions. If this was my company the boss would have seen the writing on the wall that things were going in the wrong direction and corrected them before it got out of hand. There is no excuse for the APR scores and problems.

This also does not fall completely on the coach, it is also on the athletic department and upper management. Why should a fanbase increase it’s giving to a product that hasn’t proven it can win again? We need a new football facility and new stadium, we need money, blah blah blah, yada, yada, yada. That is all I keep hearing. I get the suites will be bring in money and such, but quit making excuses.

I know this is how Moos built it at Oregon and he got their fanbase excited, but they also had a decent program and a good coach when he came in. Belotti was the HC there from 1995 to 2008. Since 1995 Oregon football has only had one losing season and in that 2004 season they went 5-6. Freakin’ 5-6, we dream about that. During Moos’s tenure at Oregon they only had one losing season. In 1995 when Moos came in at Oregon they went 9-3 and went to the Cotton Bowl. Sounds like an easier job to step into.

I don’t know if Moos can build it the same at WSU as he did at UO especially if football team goes 2-11 in his first year. I am sure Boise St. and TCU’s budgets are not much larger than ours (if not smaller) and they put winning products on the field.

We are also in a recession and people are just trying to house and feed their family. It is easy to say these things when you (Walden) have a lot of money, probably don’t have many expenses since you are basically retired and live in a cheap area. He needs to pull his head out and realize unemployment is at the highest it has been in years.

I keep hearing we need facilities and all this mumbo-jumbo. I feel like we are being told the reason we are not winning is because of the fanbase, donors, that we don’t have money and we don’t have the facilities and all these constant excuses. How about put your money (with the Pac12 media deal) into a huge big name coach that will bring in players, which will bring in money, which will bring in national exposure, which will bring winning? Granted nice facilities will help get players, but a coach that is good and wins is going to get the players here. Especially if he can get players to the NFL. Winning trumps everything. USC has had crappy facilities for years. I rather go to a crappy stadium and watch a good team than go to a nice stadium and watch crappy team. You can shine up a turd all you want, but it will still be a turd.

A good example is the Mariners. The only reason the Mariners are still in Seattle is because they put a good product on the field in 1995. They won the hearts of Seattle when they made that playoff run in a crappy dome with crappy facilities. People didn’t come to the Kingdome because it was nice they came because the Mariners were winning. Guess what winning did? It energized a fanbase to want to donate (even tax paying dollars which is hard in Seattle, just ask the Sonics) to build a new stadium.

Walden’s rants are not going to do a thing for WSU. The only thing that will energize the fan base is winning. Moos had that with Oregon when he started, which help improve the stadium and facilities. We can build all facilities and suites we want, but without winning you won’t reach your goal.

Put money into making winning programs (i.e.-coaches), then everything else will come. Does a company that wants to grow hire crappy salesman? No. Put your money into good salesman and have a mediocre office, then upgrade the office later. Don’t hire crappy salesman that can’t get business and put all your money into the office, plus things get outdated quickly. People can be enamored with nice things all they want, but people like people, not structures. Structures get old, good coaches can make a program last.