WSU Vs. Sacramento State: Open Basketball Game Thread
Sacramento St. Hornets at Washington St. Cougars, Nov 17, 2011 7:05 PM PST
There's really very little chance this game is close, but that doesn't mean there's no chance it's interesting. I'm curious to see a few things.
First, does Brock Motum continue to assert himself against a frontline that he should dominate? Motum was really, really good against a good Gonzaga frontcourt on Monday, an encouraging sign for a team that desperately needs an interior presence.
Second, how does Ken Bone use his guards? Faisal Aden got the start on Monday, but found himself on the bench for most of the second half after one too many ill-advised shots, lazy turnovers and poor defensive possessions. Does he start again tonight? Or does Bone go with what clearly looks like the best three-guard lineup of Reggie Moore, Mike Ladd and DaVonte Lacy?
Third, does the defense look more sound? The trapping stuff is a nice wrinkle, but it can't be a staple. Teams will figure it out. It ought to be a lot easier to look good tonight.
If you're not going to be in attendance, you can watch the game at wsucougars.com All-Access. It's $9.95 for a month, and there are three basketball games broadcast only on there in the next month, so it's a reasonable value. I've already ponied up.
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WINGS!
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
WINGS!
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks Craig.
Seems like a slightly smaller crowd here tonight.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Nov 17, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Mmmmm ... damn it wings ... my favorite
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
Starters
Lacy
Ladd
Capers
DiIorio
Motum
Assuming they are resting Moore?
Yup, be good to see him get to 100%.
Also, yay no FAIDS. And it’s going to be a long season if D-Oreo starts at the 4 that often.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Nov 17, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
Ladd out quickly
and Aden in after the Ladd foul.
Can we do fingagunz for basketball? This is amazing.

I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Go to the 770 AM webstte
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
So far this game is horrible.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Not sure the word "horrible" even does it justice
I’ve got us down for three forced shots to go along with the two or three turnovers.
A bad case of FAIDS as well.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
This is worse than watching PLU or UPS play basketball
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Have no idea but what the score is, but I assume we are losing.
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video link
Does the link have audio?
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
How did the refs not see that ball bounce of that dude's shoulder?
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
It also has Klay Thompson and DeAngelo Casto as our Stat leaders.
Sultan Toles-Bey for Sac State as well.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
Was that you doing the Dougie?
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
No, I'm all graduated.
That was the other guy in my thumbnail pic.
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so he is carrying on the tradition
no more turtle boy?
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Yup, big shoes for him to fill.
Turtle boy got a job filming so he is up by with cameras now, so no turtle boy either.
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Is there going to be new Big Heads? No more KT.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Not sure what he is doing with them.
Can’t use the Casto one anymore either, so Capers is the only player left that has one. I assume more will be made, but I’m not entirely sure.
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without Shelton we would be getting killed.
this game must be like playing JC ball
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
I feel like I am watching video feed of a game at the YMCA
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:34 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure if it is better when the black pants are facing us or facing the other way.
Either way, I love them.
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Facing the other way.
For sure.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Nov 17, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
Ok,
after a very frustrating 20min trying to get my laptop to work… I can now start watching us beatdown…. wait, what?! We’re losing?
Not getting back after a made basket I suppose.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
DKD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Haha, love the airball on the free throw.
I remember Baynes doing that down at Pauley once, didn’t find it so funny then.
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What is with all the random cheering in Beasley tonite?
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Drive it to the hole, it was already successful once.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
0-3 on the gamecast.
Felt like more.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
I think it was from about 17.
He actually hit one from there earlier in the game.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
FGs 35%
thats awesome
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
small crowd
is it snowing there?
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
I know, but it is the first game. I know it is Sac St
but I was wondering if it was snowing
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
It started right before tip-off
and continued throughout the game
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 17, 2011 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
Who's the guy on the mic in timeouts?
He’s got a really bad look going.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Nov 17, 2011 7:46 PM PST reply actions
Yeah. That hair is bright.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
I think it's the same guy that is the rally cheer guy at Spokane Indians baseball games between innings.
No way two people have that doo.
you don't give the ball to a big guy rumbling down the middle of the floor
everyone know’s that. That had charge written all over it.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Yep.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
i will take that bad 3 pointer from Aden
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
because we are desperate
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Yep.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Our defense needs a lot of work...
well, everything does actually… the Pac12 is REALLY bad this year, so we need to get good at least on one thing before conference play starts…
sheesh that was ugly
we were playing like we expect to win against these guys, instead of battling
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
hoops halftime shows are much better than
CMB halftime shows. (maybe that’s why I head out to the B-Lot?)
New Pac12 money got us this guy for BB games

I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:58 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Suit those guys up for the second half
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Is the goal for this halftime
to just fit in as many games as possible?
Apparently.
I can’t tell what’s worse, the game or this half-time set up
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
The guys hair is distracting
it blends in with the court on wide views
If only
We had as much hustle as those girls…
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
I think so.
Too bad we can’t just have Judo Kids for every halftime.
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They have to Do that game every time!!!
As long as they are all girls haha
by tclaus on Nov 17, 2011 8:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I've got a feeling
This team this year is going to give me gray hair.
by tclaus on Nov 17, 2011 8:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I bet Bone is giving the team the buziness in the locker room.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Abe warmed up/suited up against the Zags
Didn’t he? Wonder why not tonight
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
Have Charlie and Brock
Been on the floor at the same time all game? Seems like DiIorio and Dexter are getting a lotta time at the four..
How does dexter look?
I dont remember him playing against the zags?
it just looks like that because the ball is rotating in the opposite direction
by BigWood! on Nov 17, 2011 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Stroke is kinda funny looking, but he seems confident.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Nov 17, 2011 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
I think you missed his joke.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
He didn't play against them.
Reminds me of a taller Lacy, but there hasn’t been much yet. Anyone else?
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
I would like to see Motum and Shelton together
Sac St can’t be that tall. Two 6’10" in there at the same time might be nice.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
I like Motum around the rim
well, he’s good from pretty much everywhere, but his post moves are nice!
That is the first thing our coach taught us
NEVER GIVE UP BASELINE OR YOU WILL SIT
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
He's been getting beat all night
It’s frustrating
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Depends who's coaching
Dick Bennett taught to force baseline when he was at Wisconsin-Stevens Point. It was only when he went to Green Bay and had less athletic teams that he went to forcing middle.
by Coug Friendly Canuck on Nov 17, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
Motum should be doing that all day.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Good thing Motum added size this off season
because he is carrying this team.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
I know it's only the second game of the season
But I’m so excited for him next year. And to see how he handles Pac play this year
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
If something doesn't start to change in the next 5 minutes
I am going to start to get really nervous.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Ladd is aggressive around the rim
It’s good to see
So, DiIorio getting minutes at the 4 because Shelton is Brock's only backup?
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It seems like
Brock, Shelton, and Charlie should be able to handle most of the time down low. But DiIorio and Dexter have been gettin pretty significant minutes down there so far…
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
It is always good to foul a jump shooter
another thing my coach taught me. Never foul a guy on a jump shot!!! Our fundies are good tonight.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Pac-12 action!
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
ASU lost earlier yesterday, and we all know the story with UCLA..
I was hoping UW was the only down team in the Pac this year…..lets go Utah?
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Our conference is looking horrible
Maybe we can get two teams into March Madness?
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Did they really??
So UW’s the only undefeated team right? Us, Oregon, UCLA, USC, Colorado, ASU have all lost, Arizona’s losing. I guess we still got the Northern Cal’s
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
Thats the Northern Cals..
Stanford, OSU, UW, Cal. And Utah I think
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
Utah got blown out by Boise State.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
Quality loss atleast.
Oh wait it’s not football..
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't even know BSU had a team. jk That is bad UU lost to them.
Didn’t George Karl’s son play there?
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
They were very good last year.
Very young this year. But talented – Oregon transfer Drew Wiley plays for them. I picked them fourth I think for CBP in my MWC preview.
Faisal's D
Is embarassing. This isn’t JC ball anymore Aden
What? We have the lead!
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
look at the gametracker
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Tied.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
I want to see some more DKD
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Why isn't Aden
on the bench? I don’t care if those shots go in, they’re so selfish and stupid.
he is making 80% tonight...
yea, it can be unselfish at times but if they’re going in, take them… if not, pass…
Bone is pissed. He took off the jacket.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
The celebration was ugly
But the play was beautiful.
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
What a dumb foul, Reggie.
Just smack the guy on the arm when you have him trapped and close to a five count…
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I guess the decided to leave their fundamentals home tonight
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Why do we keep getting beat to the hole??
If this happens against a legit opponent, it’s gonna kill us.
If DiIorio falls over one more time
I’m gonna scream. He hasn’t got a charge called all half.
Thats exactly what it looks like
But Casto knew how to pull it off, and did it at the right times.
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
Offensively, he's solid down low for his size.
But I cringe everytime his man has him one on one at the block..
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
Largely because our bigs have taken the majority of them.
That’s really the last thing to be worried about with this game.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
we have 3x the FT attempts and twice as many fouls...
we’re going to the basket more? or just some homecookin? haha
That is the first time I have seen Faisal to ______
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Aden with two assists in 20 seconds
Jaw.Floor.
by BigWood! on Nov 17, 2011 8:42 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Seriously.
Especially the one on the break. I was sure he was going to force his way in.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
That was a beautiful no look pass.
And Lacy polished it off
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
For real.
I hope Bon etches this into his mind during praactice.
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Same. I think that makes Aden's good plays more spectacular.
His alley-oop to Reggie against UW was so incredible because I was certain he was going to either get a charge, force a shot, or throw it into the third row.
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Don't worry Aden TO over to make up for it.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
This Lacy kid is doing it
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
look out triple double for Aden
unfathomable.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
who knew he could give assists
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Aden is on his tail with 4
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
9 out of 11 TOs are by Aden and Motum
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
I've seen DII schools with bigger student sections.
I’m still slightly disappointed by this showing..
I can't see the whole student section from this view
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Compared to what we have normally, anyways
And to what GU showed up with on Monday.
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
casual fans don't go to weekday games...
the ones that do don’t even pay attention and just talk to each other loudly during the game..
I've heard that a ton of students have already left for Thanksgiving
But I can’t really see the whole section, the lower bowl seems full, but that’s about all we can see on webcast.
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Good, I was hoping there was an explanation.
And they showed it all a couple times at half.
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Utah game will probably be sparce
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Senior night and a shot at bowl eligibility?
Seems like a perfect scenario for a packed crowd, even with a major holiday a week later.
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
if the 07 Oregon State game is any precedent
there will be around 9 people in the student section
Easily the most miserable football game I've ever attended.
Between the pouring rain and Brink’s 13 interceptions in the first half I think everyone who stayed wished they hadn’t.
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Was it only 13?
Because from where I was sitting in the student section it felt like 50
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 17, 2011 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
I was student teaching that semester.
Made it over for every home game except that one. Was in a wedding that weekend. Bless those friends for saving me from a miserable night.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
What really ticked me off about that game
was that Doba wrote a letter in the Evergreen urging the students to stay, granted I was staying regardless, then they crapped the bed.
yes, the students want to get home to Mom and HS friends
by next Friday they will be ready to return to Pullman. I never get why they bail early
they don't bail early when the AC is this weekend
by Blackie1829 on Nov 17, 2011 9:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Most of the student I have talked to won't be in Pullman for the game
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 17, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
I'm hoping the wintry weather fires up our fans.
Because it’s certainly not going to adversely affect Utah. They’ll feel right at home in the snow. Their fans are even talking smack about it.
By the way anyone going to be at the Apple Cup?
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
I'm sure I'll break down and go
I just HATE CLink for college games. even away games. Being in HS helps my hate
I was about to say.
There is a lot of underage drinking going on in the B-lot.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
That is what I thought
“It just Orange Crush officer.”
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
ME
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 17, 2011 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
final plus/minus
Motum 11
Moore 11
Lacy 1
Aden 1
Ladd -1
Kernich-Drew -1
Shelton -5
Capers -7
DiIorio -11
Enquist -15
Hmm. Interesting that Enquist was such a liability on paper.
I thought it was closer to par with him in there, but then the numbers could be skewed by his few minutes.
UA was the biggest, the Pac needs the dominant teams to stay dominant.
But thats two tough losses in a row for SC. And Oregon, just ugly.
by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'll go out on a limb here...
and venture a guess that Sac. State won’t be in the bottom three of their conference this year.
They've definitely improved through adding transfers.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. They rolled over and took a beating last year.
This year they were more aggressive and were efficient from downtown…at least relative to the Cougs.
wondered the same thing
I was at the game and saw he had his warmups off on the bench, but he never got put in..
green'd
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by TiltingRight on Nov 18, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
So I don't know if it's been covered yet,
but the pictures of the scoreboard don’t do it justice. It’s massive.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
It's a pro arena scoreboard
but put in a relatively small coliseum like Beasley, it appears to be massive. Don’t get me wrong. I think it is great, but I only find myself glancing at it to to see the scores and seldomly watch things on the teleprompter. I wish they would use the bottom part of it to show statistics rather than advertisements, but I know that is how the thing pays for itself.
Agreed on the stats part.
They aren’t necessarily evident and are kind of hard to see.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks

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