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WSU Vs. Sacramento State: Open Basketball Game Thread

Sacramento St. Hornets at Washington St. Cougars, Nov 17, 2011 7:05 PM PST




 

There's really very little chance this game is close, but that doesn't mean there's no chance it's interesting. I'm curious to see a few things.

First, does Brock Motum continue to assert himself against a frontline that he should dominate? Motum was really, really good against a good Gonzaga frontcourt on Monday, an encouraging sign for a team that desperately needs an interior presence.

Second, how does Ken Bone use his guards? Faisal Aden got the start on Monday, but found himself on the bench for most of the second half after one too many ill-advised shots, lazy turnovers and poor defensive possessions. Does he start again tonight? Or does Bone go with what clearly looks like the best three-guard lineup of Reggie Moore, Mike Ladd and DaVonte Lacy?

Third, does the defense look more sound? The trapping stuff is a nice wrinkle, but it can't be a staple. Teams will figure it out. It ought to be a lot easier to look good tonight.

If you're not going to be in attendance, you can watch the game at wsucougars.com All-Access. It's $9.95 for a month, and there are three basketball games broadcast only on there in the next month, so it's a reasonable value. I've already ponied up.

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Ladd
Capers
DiIorio
Motum

Assuming they are resting Moore?

by BornCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:00 PM PST reply actions  

Yup, be good to see him get to 100%.

Also, yay no FAIDS. And it’s going to be a long season if D-Oreo starts at the 4 that often.

by Coug Friendly Canuck on Nov 17, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ladd out quickly

and Aden in after the Ladd foul.

by BornCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Can we do fingagunz for basketball? This is amazing.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:02 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

So far this game is horrible.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:10 PM PST reply actions  

Not sure the word "horrible" even does it justice

I’ve got us down for three forced shots to go along with the two or three turnovers.

by Jeff Nusser on Nov 17, 2011 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

This is worse than watching PLU or UPS play basketball

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

How did the refs not see that ball bounce of that dude's shoulder?

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:23 PM PST reply actions  

Capers Jumper!

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 17, 2011 7:27 PM PST reply actions  

Was that you doing the Dougie?

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I'm all graduated.

That was the other guy in my thumbnail pic.

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by Shellin on Nov 17, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

so he is carrying on the tradition

no more turtle boy?

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, big shoes for him to fill.

Turtle boy got a job filming so he is up by with cameras now, so no turtle boy either.

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 17, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there going to be new Big Heads? No more KT.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure what he is doing with them.

Can’t use the Casto one anymore either, so Capers is the only player left that has one. I assume more will be made, but I’m not entirely sure.

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 17, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

without Shelton we would be getting killed.

this game must be like playing JC ball

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:31 PM PST reply actions  

I feel like I am watching video feed of a game at the YMCA

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:34 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Ok,

after a very frustrating 20min trying to get my laptop to work… I can now start watching us beatdown…. wait, what?! We’re losing?

by james_WSU on Nov 17, 2011 7:36 PM PST reply actions  

DKD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:37 PM PST reply actions  

Haha, love the airball on the free throw.

I remember Baynes doing that down at Pauley once, didn’t find it so funny then.

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 17, 2011 7:37 PM PST reply actions  

What is with all the random cheering in Beasley tonite?

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:38 PM PST reply actions  

Nice charge mate

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:38 PM PST reply actions  

FGs 35%

thats awesome

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:43 PM PST reply actions  

Motum...

at the same place from last time lol

by james_WSU on Nov 17, 2011 7:43 PM PST reply actions  

small crowd

is it snowing there?

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

I know, but it is the first game. I know it is Sac St

but I was wondering if it was snowing

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It started right before tip-off

and continued throughout the game

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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 17, 2011 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

you don't give the ball to a big guy rumbling down the middle of the floor

everyone know’s that. That had charge written all over it.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:49 PM PST reply actions  

i will take that bad 3 pointer from Aden

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:51 PM PST reply actions  

because we are desperate

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Our defense needs a lot of work...

well, everything does actually… the Pac12 is REALLY bad this year, so we need to get good at least on one thing before conference play starts…

by james_WSU on Nov 17, 2011 7:52 PM PST reply actions  

sheesh that was ugly

we were playing like we expect to win against these guys, instead of battling

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:54 PM PST reply actions  

New Pac12 money got us this guy for BB games

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 7:58 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

YES!

Exactly what i was thinking haha

by korb M coug on Nov 17, 2011 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Suit those guys up for the second half

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:00 PM PST reply actions  

Is the goal for this halftime

to just fit in as many games as possible?

by korb M coug on Nov 17, 2011 8:01 PM PST reply actions  

Apparently.

I can’t tell what’s worse, the game or this half-time set up

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think so.

Too bad we can’t just have Judo Kids for every halftime.

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 17, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Cat fight!

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:03 PM PST reply actions  

I love cat fights

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

They have to Do that game every time!!!

As long as they are all girls haha

by tclaus on Nov 17, 2011 8:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I bet Bone is giving the team the buziness in the locker room.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:04 PM PST reply actions  

I would like to see Motum and Shelton together

Sac St can’t be that tall. Two 6’10" in there at the same time might be nice.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:07 PM PST reply actions  

I like Motum around the rim

well, he’s good from pretty much everywhere, but his post moves are nice!

by james_WSU on Nov 17, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That is the first thing our coach taught us

NEVER GIVE UP BASELINE OR YOU WILL SIT

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends who's coaching

Dick Bennett taught to force baseline when he was at Wisconsin-Stevens Point. It was only when he went to Green Bay and had less athletic teams that he went to forcing middle.

by Coug Friendly Canuck on Nov 17, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Motum should be doing that all day.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:10 PM PST reply actions  

Good thing Motum added size this off season

because he is carrying this team.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:13 PM PST reply actions  

I know it's only the second game of the season

But I’m so excited for him next year. And to see how he handles Pac play this year

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

If something doesn't start to change in the next 5 minutes

I am going to start to get really nervous.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:15 PM PST reply actions  

FT coach!

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:15 PM PST reply actions  

It is always good to foul a jump shooter

another thing my coach taught me. Never foul a guy on a jump shot!!! Our fundies are good tonight.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:18 PM PST reply actions  

He is 1-2

the rest of the team from 3pt land. 3-12. My goodness.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Well...

Oregon is down by 7 to Eastern WA… USC and Arizona are both losing too…

by james_WSU on Nov 17, 2011 8:21 PM PST reply actions  

ASU lost earlier yesterday, and we all know the story with UCLA..

I was hoping UW was the only down team in the Pac this year…..lets go Utah?

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

and Colorado lost today too..

so we’re on pace to have every Pac12 team lose today…

by james_WSU on Nov 17, 2011 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Our conference is looking horrible

Maybe we can get two teams into March Madness?

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Did they really??

So UW’s the only undefeated team right? Us, Oregon, UCLA, USC, Colorado, ASU have all lost, Arizona’s losing. I guess we still got the Northern Cal’s

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Thats the Northern Cals..

Stanford, OSU, UW, Cal. And Utah I think

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't even know BSU had a team. jk That is bad UU lost to them.

Didn’t George Karl’s son play there?

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

They were very good last year.

Very young this year. But talented – Oregon transfer Drew Wiley plays for them. I picked them fourth I think for CBP in my MWC preview.

by Jeff Nusser on Nov 17, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Faisal's D

Is embarassing. This isn’t JC ball anymore Aden

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:24 PM PST reply actions  

What? We have the lead!

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:24 PM PST reply actions  

look at the gametracker

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

yep. now.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Aden TM

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:25 PM PST reply actions  

I want to see some more DKD

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:27 PM PST reply actions  

Why isn't Aden

on the bench? I don’t care if those shots go in, they’re so selfish and stupid.

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:27 PM PST reply actions  

he is making 80% tonight...

yea, it can be unselfish at times but if they’re going in, take them… if not, pass…

by james_WSU on Nov 17, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

wasn't he under the rim?

and motum didn’t even take a step forward…

by james_WSU on Nov 17, 2011 8:27 PM PST reply actions  

Bone is pissed. He took off the jacket.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:30 PM PST reply actions  

What a dumb foul, Reggie.

Just smack the guy on the arm when you have him trapped and close to a five count…

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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 8:32 PM PST reply actions  

I guess the decided to leave their fundamentals home tonight

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

*they

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do we keep getting beat to the hole??

If this happens against a legit opponent, it’s gonna kill us.

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:34 PM PST reply actions  

If DiIorio falls over one more time

I’m gonna scream. He hasn’t got a charge called all half.

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:37 PM PST reply actions  

Thats exactly what it looks like

But Casto knew how to pull it off, and did it at the right times.

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Offensively, he's solid down low for his size.

But I cringe everytime his man has him one on one at the block..

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

we have 3x the FT attempts and twice as many fouls...

we’re going to the basket more? or just some homecookin? haha

by james_WSU on Nov 17, 2011 8:38 PM PST reply actions  

That is the first time I have seen Faisal to ______

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously.

Especially the one on the break. I was sure he was going to force his way in.

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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Same. I think that makes Aden's good plays more spectacular.

His alley-oop to Reggie against UW was so incredible because I was certain he was going to either get a charge, force a shot, or throw it into the third row.

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by Shellin on Nov 17, 2011 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Best Eminem song

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:43 PM PST reply actions  

Don't worry Aden TO over to make up for it.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:44 PM PST reply actions  

This Lacy kid is doing it

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:45 PM PST reply actions  

look out triple double for Aden

unfathomable.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:47 PM PST reply actions  

who knew he could give assists

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

yeppers

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Aden is on his tail with 4

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

9 out of 11 TOs are by Aden and Motum

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

or Fais'd it

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't see the whole student section from this view

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

casual fans don't go to weekday games...

the ones that do don’t even pay attention and just talk to each other loudly during the game..

by james_WSU on Nov 17, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I've heard that a ton of students have already left for Thanksgiving

But I can’t really see the whole section, the lower bowl seems full, but that’s about all we can see on webcast.

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by Shellin on Nov 17, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Utah game will probably be sparce

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope not!

After last week, I’d be there if I didn’t have to work.

by WinTheDay on Nov 17, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Senior night and a shot at bowl eligibility?

Seems like a perfect scenario for a packed crowd, even with a major holiday a week later.

by BleedCrimson on Nov 17, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Easily the most miserable football game I've ever attended.

Between the pouring rain and Brink’s 13 interceptions in the first half I think everyone who stayed wished they hadn’t.

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by Shellin on Nov 17, 2011 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Was it only 13?

Because from where I was sitting in the student section it felt like 50

by Mark Sandritter on Nov 17, 2011 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

At least.

There was no one there at the start of that game, but after halftime there couldn’t have even been 100 people left in the student section.

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 17, 2011 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I was student teaching that semester.

Made it over for every home game except that one. Was in a wedding that weekend. Bless those friends for saving me from a miserable night.

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by Craig Powers on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

What really ticked me off about that game

was that Doba wrote a letter in the Evergreen urging the students to stay, granted I was staying regardless, then they crapped the bed.

by sdcoug09 on Nov 17, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, the students want to get home to Mom and HS friends

by next Friday they will be ready to return to Pullman. I never get why they bail early

by woolybugger on Nov 17, 2011 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm hoping the wintry weather fires up our fans.

Because it’s certainly not going to adversely affect Utah. They’ll feel right at home in the snow. Their fans are even talking smack about it.

by 2000 Alum on Nov 17, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

By the way anyone going to be at the Apple Cup?

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:53 PM PST reply actions  

I'm sure I'll break down and go

I just HATE CLink for college games. even away games. Being in HS helps my hate

by woolybugger on Nov 17, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

HS? High School

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I make up for my age

with immaturity, so I understand your post

by woolybugger on Nov 17, 2011 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I was about to say.

There is a lot of underage drinking going on in the B-lot.

by Mark Sandritter on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

That is what I thought

“It just Orange Crush officer.”

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

funny stuff

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

ME

Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**

by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 17, 2011 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

ugly win.

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by SoCalCoug on Nov 17, 2011 8:55 PM PST reply actions  

final plus/minus

Motum 11
Moore 11
Lacy 1
Aden 1
Ladd -1
Kernich-Drew -1
Shelton -5
Capers -7
DiIorio -11
Enquist -15

by BigWood! on Nov 17, 2011 8:57 PM PST reply actions  

wondered the same thing

I was at the game and saw he had his warmups off on the bench, but he never got put in..

by PullManiac on Nov 17, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

green'd

#CougHarmonyonTwitter with your pants off, M*tha F*cker!

by TiltingRight on Nov 18, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

So I don't know if it's been covered yet,

but the pictures of the scoreboard don’t do it justice. It’s massive.

"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks

by Coug999 on Nov 17, 2011 10:04 PM PST reply actions  

It's a pro arena scoreboard

but put in a relatively small coliseum like Beasley, it appears to be massive. Don’t get me wrong. I think it is great, but I only find myself glancing at it to to see the scores and seldomly watch things on the teleprompter. I wish they would use the bottom part of it to show statistics rather than advertisements, but I know that is how the thing pays for itself.

by PullManiac on Nov 17, 2011 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed on the stats part.

They aren’t necessarily evident and are kind of hard to see.

"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks

by Coug999 on Nov 17, 2011 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

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