Cougs Eliminated From Bowl Contention: Lose to Utah in OT, 30-27
by Craig Powers on Nov 19, 2011 6:04 PM PST
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PrintThe incredible comeback win that almost was. After a huge catch from Jared Karstetter got the Cougs down inside the ten with 23 seconds left, Connor Halliday found Marquess Wilson at the goal line. Wilson was literally an inch away from punching it in for the winning TD.
Instead, WSU was left to scramble and spike the ball with three seconds left. Paul Wulff was left with a decision to kick the ball or go for the winning score with the final play. He opted for the former and the game was sent into overtime,
The game ended quickly after an "illegal forward pass" penalty on Halliday put the Cougs back in an impossible position. He threw an interception on the next play, and all Utah had to do was make the field goal to win. They did.
This team showed a lot of fight. Down ten points with just over five minutes left in the game, they staged two huge drives to send it into overtime. Halliday showed why he can be great with a few clutch throws, and reminded us that he is a redshirt freshman with four interceptions on the day.
There will be a number of "what-if" moments from this game. Utah scored their first touchdown on a fake punt pass. Their second touchdown was set up by a fumbled punt return. Down three points after scoring on a brilliant wide recever pass from Kristoff Williams to Bobby Ratliff, Chester Sua missed the tackle on John White IV and he spun off to go the distance. The Cougs looked like they may be done at that point.
They weren't, and drove down the field in a hurry to pull back within three after Halliday hooked up with Karstetter in the back of the endzone. The defense was able to stop Utah to set up the wild final drive of regulation.
Sadness in Cougar nation right now. They were so close to getting that fifth win to set up the most meaningful Apple Cup in a long time. Instead, they are left again to try and play the role of spoiler against the Huskies
I still can't believe how close MQW was to scoring that TD. This one will take a long, long time to get over.
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Wilson was literally a foot in the endzone when he caught the ball.
Add in two lost points (thanks to another blown call on a safety) and the five turnovers, and you have a recipe for a loss
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 6:09 PM PST reply actions
it was not a safety
we knocked him back into the endzone.
Wilson? Don’t know he was coming back for the ball. If the team just lines up we have another shot at the end zone before attempting the FG.
The refs might suck (I use the term might loosely) but we need to play the game.
At this point any time you post, and it’s NOT a picture of black pants, I get confused. - Kyle Rancourt
Maybe FCS Atlantic was able to give you a better replay angle
from the replays in the stadium I thought it should have been a saftey
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
It wasn't a safety from my eyes or the replay on the jumbotron...
It’s on forward motion, he was on the one yard line and was knocked back into the end zone.
However…. the end of the game… I just don’t….
by Something Snazzy on Nov 19, 2011 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, I guess I just don't understand forward motion all that well
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
if the ball is fully out of the endzone
and the D knocked you back into the endzone you are down where the ball was at the time of the contact.
Going into the endzone you only need to cross the line. Getting out of the endzone the entire ball has to be out (football acts like soccer in this case)
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Makes alot more since now
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
sence*
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
Still to jittery from this game aahaha
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
too
hahaha … piling on
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
....
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
There in lies the problem with replay.
They wont review it cuz they’d stop the clock.
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by Coug999 on Nov 19, 2011 8:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
This is why the refs should be taught
if it’s close call it a TD, if it isn’t a TD the replay will prove it.
That walks a pretty slippery slope
Since you have to have conclusive evidence to the contrary to overturn.
And if we're on the other end
Where it’s called and overturned but the clock stopped and the O sets up a play without having/using a TO we would be livid.
Bottom line, if he was in the ref needs to get it right.
I don't think the ball ever crossed the goal line, though.
He was in the endzone, came back to the ball, and caught it with one foot in the endzone, but the ball at the 1 yard line. I’m not sure, but I think the rule is the ball has to cross the plane
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 20, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
I was at the game, had a perfect view in person I'm sure it was a TD.
But after watching the game later on TV I can see why so many people aren’t sure about it. Even if it would have been reviewed I don’t know how they could have overturned it with those angles.
I should add that it was a really weird play.
His momentum was taking him out of the endzone and the Utah defender was between MQW and the Ref. The only reason I could see the ball was because I was just high enough up in the stands to see over the top of the defender. Right when he caught the ball and his foot hit, the whole ball was across the goal line.
The best part about this picture is how you can't see the ball.
way to be conclusive!
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 21, 2011 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
Did anyone notice
that our grounds people cleared the snow to the wrong side?
I guess I would just rather have them lean that way.
Same with all the catch/no catch stuff. To me, it’s always a catch unless it obviously isn’t, and it’s always a TD unless it obviously isn’t.
true
but they are taught to do it on ‘fumbles’. Let the play go unless you are positive the guy is down. The replay booth will take care of it. (according to them anyway)
not saying they should call a TD when in doubt. But clearly they need to get this crap right or get rid of it. The replay booth has castrated the refs, not that they had any balls to begin with.
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Good argument for not requiring that level of proof for those kinds of replays!
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Which I incredibly frustrating since it to biggest play of the game.
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by Coug999 on Nov 19, 2011 8:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He dove to catch the ball
and after the catch was knocked out of the endzone.
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
I couldn't tell because he was coming back for the ball
If we called a TO I’ll bet the refs would have reviewed it.
I just don’t see the refs stopping the clock when we aren’t anywhere near lined up for a play which would give us a chance at a play into the end zone. The refs get in the way of the game all the time, but not to stop the clock that might have run out.
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that's part of my point
we couldn’t stop the clock, the refs weren’t going to do it for us
At this point any time you post, and it’s NOT a picture of black pants, I get confused. - Kyle Rancourt
The Wilson catch happened right infront of me.
That’s TD anyway ya slice it. Maybe if we had taken a little bit longer after the spike, they might have reviewed it. But who knows.
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
the TV angle sucked.
from what I saw no way they could have reversed the call. that doesn’t mean he wasn’t in.
That and the pac 12 replay booth canned response.
“Our refs are so good they got it right the first time”
At this point any time you post, and it’s NOT a picture of black pants, I get confused. - Kyle Rancourt
That was a blown call.
Oh well, that was one heck of a game and I’m damned proud of how this team responded to adversity tonight.\
GO COUGS
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
I would have loved to have seen a replay...
It was so close…and it wouldn’t have surprised me if MQW was just barely in when he caught the pass.
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 19, 2011 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know if he was in, but that has got to be reviewed.
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
Too bad MWQ didn't stick his arm forward right after the catch...
maybe he just got hit right away and didn’t have a chance. I’d have to look at it again.
There is no closer way to lose a game.
Wulff going for it and us converting for the win would have been one of those incredible “ice in his veins” moments which would have been never forgotten by Coug fans.
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 19, 2011 6:42 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Unless he doesn't get in.
Then we all want him fired.
by Jeff Nusser on Nov 19, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
not winning and it was almost fun. Haven’t said that in a loooooong looooong time.
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This program is definitely on the right track
whether or not we retain Wulff, this program is going to be ridiculously next year
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
all due respect, completely done with being proud of handling adversity
Win the effing game
by BigWood! on Nov 19, 2011 7:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
And that is a totally understandable view point as well
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
While that is true
I’m not convinced we didn’t. I really wish we had a better angle to look at the MQW catch at the end. I just think he was in.
I also wish we hadn't needed to get to that point
And had instead not had special teams breakdowns or had not given up the big run, and instead had just flat out beaten them by 10+. Which we could have done.
by 02Coug on Nov 19, 2011 7:15 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I can't rec this enough
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
Well said.
It would have really been nice to score in the first quarter when we started every drive with great field position.
That is really the story of the game to me
Utah was shooting themselves in the foot with mistakes and no offense to start the game, we had control of the field position, but we kept also shooting ourselves in the foot.
As I said below, I just have no idea how to process this game, program, team, or anything at the moment. More beer.
Neither do I.
I just have this image of MQW’s catch where I clearly see the ball across the goal line burned into the back of my brain, I still don’t believe we lost this game.
by cdalto on Nov 19, 2011 7:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
More beer.
This is pretty much how I function being a Coug fan these days.
by cougfan45 on Nov 20, 2011 12:09 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You and 200 students who had the pracitically the same view
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
I was happy to see the team comeback
multiple times. They way we drove the field and got the game to OT. I’m pissed we lost. I was more pissed while watching.
You won’t want to be around me if we beat the dawgs because I will be really pissed. I wanted to get on a plane and go to a non rose bowl bowl game really really bad. Winning the AC isn’t all that matters, 1982 was a long time ago. Going bowling is what matters now.
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Happened right in front of me as well.
When his foot hit the ground the entire ball was still in the endzone. It was easy to see as I had a perfect view. Oddly enough it was essentially the same view as the referee and he managed to blow the call.
I still disagree that it was unquestionably a TD
I don’t think it was a TD. Could it have been a TD? sure. But to say anything is unquestionable at this point is silly. It was snowy, the field conditions sucked, and no one can know for sure. Even if they review it, there’s probably not enough evidence to overturn.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 20, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's weird..
usually these loses really hurt and especially one that cost us a bowl. Right now, I’d be pinning away about the what if’s, but I’m not. I thought the game was entertaining like the last game and right now, I just want these guys to release all of their frustrations on UW and blow them out. This team is so close to being good.
Kind of wonder if Karstetter could have scored
but no matter. This team has a lot of fight, and after the losses have piled up, it would have been easy for this team to quit when down 10 late. But there was no quit in this team, and honestly I can’t think of many games during Wulff’s tenure where the team quit in a game (there have been some, but not that many).
I still feel the future is bright, whether its led by Wulff or someone else.
by 51dimes on Nov 19, 2011 6:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I get what you're saying
and I’m not trying to be a dick, but should we really credit them for “not quitting”? Isn’t that something they’re supposed to not do? And at the end of year four with a coach, we’re pointing out that they didn’t quit as why we think this team has a bright future?
I just don’t agree with this line of reasoning.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 20, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
FUCK YOU KYLE RANCOURT!
YOU POLLYANNA NOG!
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by TiltingRight on Nov 20, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Well- the 'storyline' and 'bloglines' for the games
against the Beavs and Cal were pretty much that the team had quit. Or failed to show up or whatever, the whole how can they not get up when it is a winnable gme theme was prevalent right? I don’t think it is unreasonable to point out the dramatic comebacks and the lack of quit in two games wherein a team accused of being quitters, actually did not and showed a resilience that struck us fans and the commentators as uncommon.
The reasoning is more that at the end of the fourth year, a team had bowl aspirations until the last game that played the season w/o it’s star offensive player and leader at the crucial slot of QB- and with devastating injuries to the OL to boot. Third string center, third string RT and what 1 sack vs. a pretty sack oriented D? Not excusing losing… but stepping out and looking at how close they are w/o thier QB warrants consideration.
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 20, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Eh
I failing to show up and quitting on your coach aren’t the same thing or mutually exclusive. Coming out unprepared or lacking energy is one thing; quitting on your coach is another. I don’t think they’ve ever quit on Wulff. But there’s really no way for any of us to know their mindset.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 20, 2011 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
Ultimately, it doesn't matter anyways.
At some point, that fight has to translate to wins. Dropping “gimmes” and “noways” we’re 2-5 in “winnable” games (SDSU, CU, UCLA, OSu, Cal, ASU, Utah). After next week we’ll be 2-6 or 3-5. Is that good enough to “earn” an extension, or even another year? I honestly don’t know.
This I do know: At some point the coach has to show he can get the team to win. For me, that was supposed to be this year.
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by TiltingRight on Nov 20, 2011 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
No I agree
I just don’t think losing winnable games means they’ve given up on the coach. I also don’t think just because they came back in this game that that means they “didn’t give up” on the coach. I think all the talk of giving up or not is silly, because it’s almost impossible for us to say for sure one way or the other.
Mainly though, I don’t think saying things like “Well shucks, at least they didn’t give up” in year four of a rebuild is good enough.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 21, 2011 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I wasn't disagreeing with you.
More like adding to your point.
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by TiltingRight on Nov 21, 2011 2:43 AM PST up reply actions
Someone much smarter than me needs to explain opting for overtime
4th and 1 conversion rates check in at >70% success. College football overtime is a coin flip at best; not to mention that this attempt would have been on the heals of marching 75 yards straight down the field.
' the book' says
go for it on the road. OT at home.
not saying I agree with the book. It would have take huge balls to go for it with so much on the line.
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It got UW to a bowl game last year against Cal....
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by kelly20210 on Nov 19, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
Polk different
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
I'm completely confident in Mitz or Winston's ability to get a foot.
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
Winston had 7 carries for 2 yards.
By my math, that’s less than 1 foot per carry.
........ fine Mitz had one carry for three yards. Go away.
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I had to say it.
I actually wish we would have gone for it too. But I would prefer a hurry to the line QB sneak ’a la Matt Leinart and the “Bush Push”.
the circumstance of rushing up
setting up and having to hurry the call isn’t conducive to a power play. Which haven’t been the Coug forte in the past few years. It’s a tough call either way.
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
The clock was stopped. We had time to change to power personell.
Although agreed I don’t know what we would have called.
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
sure felt after the review
festival last week whenever we scored- they could have given a look at Wislon’s feet on the ‘inch line’ stop…
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
But then they also have time to change personel as well
to counter our power package. Not sure I have a ton of confidence in our power package anyway, but just throwin’ it out there
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 20, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
I was for the FG
but felt after SO many reviews last weekend vs. ASU that a look was warranted… thats all. I personally felt he wasn’t in… but really couldnt seeit all that well.
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 20, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
I would argue that neither
is stopping the clock lining up against the best defense in the Pac-12 and saying “here we come”. If we’re gonna go for it I would rather have a possibly out of position and off balance defense.
I should clarify that I mean sneak it instead of spiking it
don’t stop the clock and let the D know what’s coming. But that can’t really come from the coaches. The QB would just have to take that decision into his own hands and I don’t think Connor has that freedom yet.
Free Conner!
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
who?
did you mean “Free Highlander!?”
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by woolybugger on Nov 19, 2011 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Like I said... the book says...
going for it when you have to win the final 2 to save your job is different than throwing the dice when you woof on twitter.
And again, I think he made the right call. We should have lined up quicker on the spike and we could have taken a shot in the end zone. I don’t blame Wulff at all for going to OT. I wouldn’t have an issue if he put his nuts on the line either.
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by woolybugger on Nov 19, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't have an issue with it either. It's just an eerily similar situation for both teams.
If we win in OT, it doesn’t matter. I would’ve gone for the win. I don’t blame Wulff for not going for it. Now giving up 5 ypc when it’s snowing, you’re at home and know their QB sucks is a different situation. The end of the game though, just heartbreaking.
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
I think the only real criticisms in OT...
…was making sure you don’t go backwards. No sacks, penalties, etc. Just try to run directly to the goal line.
I know it is 20/20 hindsight, but you have to do everything possible to keep within reasonable field goal range.
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 19, 2011 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
First play was a blown block. Had Galvin wide open on a wheel.
Second play was doomed pre-snap. Freshman quarterback made a mistake.
Does the book really say that?
I know that’s the rule in baseball, but I don’t see how it applies to football.
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
I don't know, I don't read real well
heard it said many times in regards to football.
that doesn’t mean I agree with it. Too many other factores to have a stock response to a situation. Mo, is the D on their heals. yardage. Do you have ‘the play’ that will work in that situation based on how the game has been unfolding. etc etc etc.
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I feel your pain, sirs.
That was so freaking close. I’m not 100% sure you didn’t get a TD taken away from you at the end.
Regardless, an incredible effort. Your boys could have hung their heads at several points and mailed it in, but no quit in Pullman that I could see and we ended up darn lucky. Thats for nearly stopping my heart several times. Bright future with that QB and your very good receivers.
Good luck in the AC. Huck the Fuskies as someone else says.
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by U of Uman on Nov 19, 2011 6:47 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I have no idea how to take this loss
If the call on the MQW catch at the end goes our way that is the kind of break that literally turns a program around. It doesn’t, and we are here. If Sua wraps up, or if the punt isn’t fumbled, or many other things then maybe we don’t get to that point.
And in OT I would have loved to start out simple and just let Galvin run it first play. Little risk, maybe not a lot of reward but let Connor get his bearings. His adrenaline had to be over the top, and our first two plays were low risk and still blew up in our face.
A game that wasn’t just a game we could have won, but was a game that was daring us to win it. Instead we are left with another Apple Cup that is just for pride, and I don’t know what to think anymore. I thought the team was dead after the Cal game, and the only thing I know is that I was wrong about that.
I can't be mad at the OT play-calling
The first play was a simple wheel to Galvin that was so incredibly open. Galvin didn’t have anyone near him, but the right side of the line just whiffed on its blocks. The second play was kind of conservative — a screen. Problem was someone got them lined up wrong.
I'm not really mad about OT
Because I agree, Galvin was open and really both calls were meant to be conservative. There is just a part of me thinking “we had run the ball OK, what if we had started with a draw or other run.”
I think at the end it was the risk of having a RS freshman QB in OT, and an offensive line that still isn’t entirely there.
Mad at one thing
our grounds people cleared the snow to the wrong side of the goal line chalk. You don’t have to go into the endzone, just touch the chalk but the ref couldn’t see where the line was. It was all white on one side and he could see the seperation only in the endzone. Look at the picture again.
I was surprised
that Kars didn’t bee line for the goal line and let the big safety who was closing hit him out of bounds— it looked like a foot race to me. Felt like he should have tried. Even with the knocked out clock ticks you have a spike coming. Weird play— frustrating loss for sure…
Gotta love that fighting comeback however…
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It was the smart play
Sure, he could have tried to blast down field, but the fact of the matter was that they had no timeouts and less than 20 seconds. It shows his maturity.
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
not dis'n him
but it can be argued that for those very same reasons he should have blasted down the sideline to try a dive for the ‘cone’.
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
I was of the opinion he looked at
the clock after he went out and was pissed. I think he felt he could’ve gotten in maybe — just speculating, not complaining… if you want complaining… ask me about a freshman returner NOT fair catching….
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
I think if he went OB after the earlier catch
he might have tried for more on this one. He clearly made a mistake on the other catch.
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via Brand X
Regarding the run OB—
“WSU put itself in position to win when it stopped John White IV short on third down. The Cougars then used their final timeout and regained possession with 52 seconds remaining and trailing 27-24. A 24-yard completion from redshirt freshman quarterback Connor Halliday to senior wide receiver Jared Karstetter gave WSU possession at its own 49. But on the ensuing play, Karstetter beat Mo Lee down the right sideline and it appeared he might run into the end zone for the game-winning score.
Instead, he stepped out of bounds at the 7-yard line.
"That one is going to haunt me," Karstetter said. "I feel like I could’ve scored."
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
He didn't say that to us.
His quote was “I don’t know. In my head, you think that you reach up for the ball and stay inbounds. But I’ll have to see it on film.”
Read it on the other site
I have no idea to whom he was speaking, but they quote him.
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe pulled it from the radio.
He was emotional after the game, but he didn’t give the impression that he was sure he could’ve scored. And most of us didn’t think he could have
yeah I am not sure of it by any means...
but he ran out of bounds untouched and had the sideline… even just going until he was knocked out puts him several yards closer…
ifs and buts… but I was surprised he ran right out when he did it…
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
There are many things in this game that we can wonder "what if"
But I am with you on the JK catch down the sideline. I thought after the catch he would just run to the endzone or dive for the pylon. Maybe JK felt it was to slippery to try and adjust and run straight and he just want to make sure the catch was secured. Then I thought to myself he probably wasn’t sure where he was in regards to the sideline, how much time was left and maybe he wanted to assure us of a game tying FG. I hit my 20 second rewind button about 5 times to see how much room he had. I think sometimes in a 2 minute drill it is instinctive to catch the ball and get out of bounds. I figure when a WR makes a catch for a 1st down they know the clock is going to stop, so why not fight for extra yards. I guess I just pictured him catching it and tip-toeing the sideline for the touchdown (or diving for the pylon). Strange play.
Kind of off topic
did you see Butch walk up and hand Karstetter a cardboard sign?
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 19, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
chris chancellor wrote it
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
Not saying Karstetter didn't say it.
He just had a different tone talking to reporters. Probably said it on the radio with Bud or something.
Not a biggie; just one of a zillion
little things that could have gone another way— great game. I was just wishing for the Apple Cup to be for 6-6 for us and the purple…
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
Bennett Bontempts runs the right route earlier in the game and Wilson's still running
I could go on.
Does Bontempts get credit for a catch
on the punt coverage?
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yeah I was yelling at my TV
on that one
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
^ Brian Re; Bontempts /Wils
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
It's a play they run all the time, too.
That’s one where you notice the loss of Barton. Bontempts was just a decoy meant to hold the safety. Instead, he brought the safety right to Wilson.
Bingo.
Should have ran a post (or possibly seam or dig) to pull the safety, instead he ran a corner and brought the safety right to the ball.
Yep.
It was a go on the outside (Wilson) and a post on the inside. Wilson had his man toasted.
by Brian Floyd on Nov 19, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
Losing Barton
really hurt. It took a few drives for our offense to figure out what to do without him. Bontempts, Simone drops, etc. I thought Ratliff would take Barton’s role or even K. Williams.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
Alot of fans in the stands were ticked about that.
He just baited the safty right at Wilson.
Ya that was frustrating
I felt the ball was a little under thrown. If he throws it a yard or two farther (even three yards) Wilson runs into the endzone. Wilson was ahead of Bontemps by a few strides.
I still can't believe we lost this game like we did.
I also thought that for the most part the team played well and put everything on the line.
Holy Crap!
Baylor just pulled off a miracle— and looks to beat OK for the 1st time EVER.
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
Great game, guys
That QB has some growing to do, but he’s the real deal. No reason he shouldn’t start every game next year.
by Joseph Silverzweig on Nov 19, 2011 9:03 PM PST reply actions
yes there is
Jeff Tuel is the reason. But I am glad to have a very solid back up. If we have learned anything in the Wulff regime, it is that the Cougs need 2 if not 3 solid signal callers ready.
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
4 - 8 to 14 - 0 Next year!
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Sometimes I act irrationally.
My Vodka Disagrees
It says Rose Bowl, but no NC. It also says I have a chance with Minka Kelly. I’d say the Cougs have a MUCH more realistic chance than I do.
Ute fan here
Great game guys but I should sue ya for taking a few years off my life lol my heart just couldn’t handle it much longer. Wish you guys luck from now on. Halliday will be one terrifying QB in the future
He terrified me all day today with his INT's and completion percentage
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
He's saying:
It’s called a FAIR CATCH you make it in the face of 5 defenders Leon!
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by hollyweirdcoug on Nov 19, 2011 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
I think he called a fair catch.
He just dropped it. No bottom to his basket.
by newportcoug on Nov 19, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
I never saw the hand wave.
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by TiltingRight on Nov 19, 2011 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
Fair catch doesn't really matter when you drop the ball anyway
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 20, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
I think the point is that he was looking up at where he was going to run
I assume if he fair catches, he’s probably more likely to look it in.
Fair enough.
I heard it on the radio while driving home, didn’t catch it on the feed.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 20, 2011 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it was right in front of me
For a guy who fair caught pretty much every punt this year, I couldn’t believe he was trying to return it. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
This brings up a larger problem:
why the hell was Leon Brooks returning punts at all? He has been terrible all year. We can’t throw anyone else out there? Like, literally anyone else.
(Also, this is me saying he’s awful without looking at his numbers. I invite people to throw his not-that-bad numbers in my face and say, YOUS WRONG DUDE)
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 21, 2011 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
It may be about simply being able to consistently FIELD the ball....
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by TiltingRight on Nov 21, 2011 2:39 AM PST up reply actions
That's why he's out there. To catch it.
If they were trying to get big returns, they’d do better with Galvin. But mostly they just want it caught.
I will say K. Williams throws a nice ball.
HS QB.
I love it when CougCenter goes green, because it usually means we are winning.
First thing I said when he threw it.
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by TiltingRight on Nov 19, 2011 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
I got so wrapped up
in the last drive I thought we would be going for the TD and when Furney came out, I was like “what the heck?! We are going for a FG? Huh?” Then when my emotions calmed down and looked at the situation and the clock and I was like “right call coach, good move.” “Of course that is what you do.” But my heart was telling me, “go for it, go for it.” I felt like their defense was rattled and we had them on their heels. I thought we would score easily. I wanted that knock out punch thrown.
Those 5 turnovers really hurt. I don’t think a lot of teams win with 5 turnovers.
by SoCalCoug on Nov 19, 2011 11:54 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Been hanging with a friend who knows nothing of WSU football, trying to not think about this.
Didn’t work. Still sad.
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By the way Coerper has been playing really good.
He is a better DE than I thought. I wish he had been more healthy this year. How many games has he missed?
I couldn't imagine being Wulff tonight.
He has to be lying in bed replaying all the “what if” scenarios. No sleep for him tonight. Or he is downing some Orange Crush, so he can go to sleep. Orange Crush (with grandpa’s cough syrup) = Melatonin
Well at least UW lost.
I got lots of beer in the fridge and Skyrim in the Xbox. So it’s not a bad Saturday after all…
Dear CougCenter
I’ve tried to rec a few posts tonight and it always comes up as a flag. I’m not even buzzed, and I’m using Google Chrome – is there an issue with this browser?
Anyway, disregard any flags that may be attributed to me. Sorry.
by Heavy_G on Nov 20, 2011 12:56 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
It just looks like "Flag"
When you hit “Rec”, the “Rec” button disappears, so you’re just left with the “Flag” button followed by the number of rec’s. It’s confusing. but you’re probably fine.
When you flag a comment
unless you fill out the comment box and hit submit, it doesn’t actually flag the comment. I thought I flagged multiple comments on accident before I figured that out
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 20, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
you have a long way to go to take that title away from bpcoug
by sdcoug09 on Nov 20, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
holy crap
how is this not green? needs at least four million recs, people
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 20, 2011 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
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