Jared Karstetter Rebounds, Marquess Wilson Gets Targeted A Lot.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 2, 2011 5:46 PM PDT
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In this post last week I wrote:
Teams are obviously focusing on Wilson, but if the other receivers continue to struggle, at some point force feeding Wilson 10-12 targets will still be more productive than targeting players with sub 6.00 YPT.
It appears Todd Sturdy read this and said, "12? Ha! I'll see your 12 and raise you seven more." Against Oregon, Wilson was targeted a whopping 19 times, seven more than his previous season high of 12 targets. Forget spreading the ball around to five or six different receivers, on Saturday, 31 of Marshall Lobbestael's 36 passes to wide receivers went to either Wilson or Jared Karstetter.
Although the numbers aren't overly impressive, it's tough to fault the idea of giving the ball to your best playmakers as many times as possible.
Player
Targets
Catches
Yards
Drops
1st Downs
YPT
Catch%
Drop%
1st Down%
Isiah Barton
5
3
18
2
0
3.60
60.00
40.00
0.00
Bennett Bontemps
0
0
0
0
0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Henry Eaddy
0
0
0
0
0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Jared Karstetter
12
7
114
0
5
9.50
58.33
0.00
41.67
Isiah Myers
0
0
0
0
0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Bobby Ratliff
0
0
0
0
0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Gino Simone
0
0
0
0
0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Kristoff Williams
0
0
0
0
0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Marquess Wilson
19
11
126
2
7
6.63
57.89
10.53
36.84
WR Totals
36
21
258
4
12
7.17
58.33
11.11
33.33
Wilson's boxscore numbers of 11 catches and 126 yards look like a great game, but his 6.63 YPT is the lowest of the season and it's only the second time in 2011 he's posted a catch rate under 60 percent. That said, I still find Wilson's performance to be very encouraging. First, Wilson got the ball a lot which is always a good thing. Second, last season there were games where if he didn't catch a deep ball, he was somewhat ineffective. Against Oregon his longest grab went for 21 yards but he was still effective and generated first downs.
As encouraged as I was with Wilson's performance, double it for Karstetter's. Karstetter is one of my favorite Cougars in recent memory. He works hard, plays hard, is a good student and carries himself well. He's the exact type you like to root for so highlighting his struggles recently hasn't exactly been fun. While he put up slightly better numbers against Colorado (9.55 YPT, 81.82 Catch%) this was an impressive performance.
Barton's five targets were his lowest since week two against UNLV. When he was the target of a Lobbestael pass, he didn't do much with it gaining only 18 yards with two drops. Three weeks ago he was targeted 15 times, that number has dropped to seven and now five. It will be interesting to see what kind of a role he plays in the final four games.
Ratliff not being targeted at all is a bit unusual, but some of that is due to the fact that Andrei Lintz (3) and Rickey Galvin (5) saw season highs in targets.
Player
Targets
Catches
Yards
Drops
1st Downs
YPT
Catch%
Drop%
1st Down%
Isiah Barton
66
41
467
9
21
7.08
62.12
13.64
31.82
Bennett Bontemps
2
1
10
0
1
5.00
50.00
0.00
50.00
Henry Eaddy
9
4
35
0
1
3.89
44.44
0.00
11.11
Jared Karstetter
63
37
418
7
23
6.63
58.73
11.11
36.51
Isiah Myers
13
7
76
0
3
5.85
53.85
0.00
23.08
Bobby Ratliff
30
20
207
1
14
6.90
66.67
3.33
46.67
Gino Simone
7
3
37
0
2
5.29
42.86
0.00
28.57
Kristoff Williams
10
7
113
1
4
11.30
70.00
10.00
40.00
Marquess Wilson
79
52
889
7
34
11.25
65.82
8.86
43.04
WR Totals
279
172
2252
25
103
8.07
61.65
8.96
36.92
Karstetter's strong game gives his season YPT a nice boost of .67. His catch rate is still lower than usual, but hopefully Saturday was the start of a strong close to his WSU career.
I talk about Wilson a lot in these posts, but what the heck lets do it some more. He now has 79 targets in eight games good for 9.88 targets per game. Based on that number and assuming he maintains his current YPT and catch rate over the final four games, he would end the season with 78 catches for 1,333 yards both WSU single season records. Jason Hill is currently the only WSU player with two 1,000 yard receiving seasons. Wilson could join that group as soon as this weekend and he's still just a sophomore.
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Sure he's a RB
But I loved seeing Galvin lined up on the outside on Saturday. I don’t really want him roaming free for the Lobster’s floaters over the middle with awaiting safeties, but at least it keeps other defenses thinking. Plus, we saw the guy’s not afraid to take on an outside blocking assignment like a champ.
In any case, I hope the staff keeps throwing in a few wrinkles like this to keep defenses on their toes and opening up new ways to spread the ball around.
I love watching Galvin block.
Last game I remember seeing him just step right in front of a D lineman or linebacker. Dude is fearless.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
Galvin in the slot
Following the model of both Oregon with Deanthony Thomas and even USC with Bush is something that could work for the Cougs. I am not trying to say that Ricky is as talented as those two, but he does have the speed that can make it tough for linebackers and safeties to match up with.
I totally agree with you about Karstetter and really hope he finishes strong
It was great to see Jared come out of last weeks game with 0 drops after a rough few games. I’m wondering how this years receivers corp drop % compares to previous seasons so if any of you guys have stats going back into the mists of time I think it would be interesting to see how the guys stack up to their predecessors.
And re: Ricky Galvin can someone PLEASE tell Steve Broussard to sit down with him and watch game film of Shaun Alexander when he was with the Seahawks?! I knew Shaun was on the short side but I met him once and it amazed that a guy that small (height/weight) could survive in the NFL, then I thought about his running style and how he would always hit the turf at the feet of linebackers and the other big guys before they could lay a hit on him.
Galvin is quick quick but if he keeps running headlong into the big boys his days are going to be numbered. I can see him having a great career as a Coug, but only if he stays healthy, so if any of you guys ever talks with Bruiser give him a heads up<:]
Sometimes I sits and thinks and sometimes I just sits
I wish I had drop data from previous seasons.
It’s virtually impossible to find as well because most schools don’t include it in the official stats or play by play.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 2, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with your assessment of our 4th WR “a bit unusual” having no targets. We seem to have gone away from some production. 6.90, 66.67, 3.33, and 1st downs 46.67. With a 33.33 first down percent in the last game maybe we could have used some of these numbers. These numbers are season average.
I like the increase in targets to Wilson but if it doesn’t produce a “W” for the Cougars, it is not productive for the TEAM.
Karstetter has bounced back very well. Lets keep it going.
Yes that is true
I just like more options and spreading them out. Its harder to cover.
That was my initial reaction too.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
So what the title is telling me is
if Karstetter joins the basketball team, we’ll be golden on the boards!
by tclaus on Nov 2, 2011 11:33 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Target Chart
I enjoy reading CougCenter. I really like the Target Chart that is being done after every game. If the numbers in these charts are correct, then I agree with Rcook72 and Mark Sandritter when he said not targeting Ratliff in the last game was a bit unusual. A 46.67 first down percentage is a first down every other target. Why would we go away from that? As you all know, first downs move the chains and we keep the ball. Maybe I am missing something that the chart does not show. If I am, would someone PLEASE school me.
A lot of it has to do with the gameplan.
A lot of Ratliff’s catches have come on screen or short passes. We didn’t run very many of those routes against Oregon so Ratliff wasn’t as involved. Against Oregon they had Galvin in the slot for a different look and utilized the TE more than they had in the previous 19 games combined.
Ratliff has shown a lot of potential but he’s not outplaying Barton or Karstetter to the point where he keeps them off the field. Next year is where he will really get an opportunity to prove he can maintain his success with a heavier workload.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 3, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Gameplan
Mark, I remember you told me about the screens that Ratliff was getting. I still say that from the numbers, those screens were working. If he was stopped by the defense from getting 10 yards per catch then I could see going away from it. I would have tried it first before going away. It could have helped us.
Screens are tough to run against a defense with the speed of Oregon.
Also, not listed in the chart. Ratliff did have one target against Oregon but the play was wiped out by a defensive penalty.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 3, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
According to my calculations he'll only need 890 yards next year to be the all-time leading WSU receiver if he reaches that estimate.
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Less than that.
Brandon Gibson is the current leader with 2,756 yards. Wilson currently has 1,895 yards so he needs 861 more. Add in roughly another 400 yards this season and MQW will likely need about 450 yards next year to set the record. He should have that by week three.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 3, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I am curious what will happen next year. (sorry I know we are still in this season, but it is interesting to me to think ahead)
We are losing JK and Barton and we will still be log jammed at WR. I was thinking K. Williams would take JK position and Ratliff at Barton’s. I have heard all kinds of good stuff about Dominique Williams. So may be Ratliff stays where he is at and the two Williams take JK and Barton’s spots. Then there is Eaddy, Myers, Dockery (if he comes back), Bomber and the incoming freshman WRs. I forgot Simone is a Junior, so who knows where he goes.
I am curious if Ratliff is better than Kristoff or is it because Kristoff plays a different WR position. Most of the time I figure the best talent gets on the field, so if Kristoff was better than Ratliff he would be on the field more than Ratliff. I like Ratliff, he seems like a good possession receiver and someone you can count on for 3rd downs. He seems to make plays. Maybe (eventually) a poor man’s Ricky Proehl type.
Here is what I am thinking next year and I had a hard time deciding, so I will probably be way off. I am probably also off on the position names because I forgot what Sturdy names his WR positions, but hopefully you get the idea.
Split end (X or SE): (Formerly JK) K. Williams, D. Williams,
Flanker (Z or FL): Wilson, Myers, Dockery
Slot receiver (Y or SL): (Formerly Barton) Ratliff, Eaddy, Simone, Bomber
4th WR: Eaddy, Dockery, Bomber
RS: D. Jones, Travis Gardner, Rashad Jackson (he could play DB)
We will see how the rest of the year will play into how next year’s WR position shapes up.
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