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Apple Cup 2011: The Tailgater's Guide to Cougar Football

The beauty of the Apple Cup is that it always means something, even when the result doesn't change much of the season's outcome for either team.

The Cougars of Washington State come into this game at 4-7; guaranteed at least a share of last place in the Pac-12 North. The Washington Huskies are 6-5 - already guaranteed a Bowl appearance and playing to try and lock up a winning record and potentially a spot in a higher-profile Bowl.

None of this matters as much as the fact that the winner of this game gets bragging rights over its in-state rival. You can say this isn't important, but it is. It always is. A win in this game grants some immunity from smack talk from your rival co-workers, friends, family... even random people on the street. This practice is somewhat ridiculous considering us fans have absolutely no involvement in the outcome on the field, but nevertheless our association with the University pulls us in anyway. We actually genuinely feel bad about losing this game, even though sitting in the stands or on a couch in no way helps or harms our team in terms of the final score.

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What I've come to dislike most about the Husky fans are all the misconceptions about Cougar fans. We're all agriculture majors from Eastern Washington. We're all conservatives and simpletons. We couldn't have gotten into UW if we tried. I've heard Husky fans accuse Cougar fans of being violent, racist, and a prominent figure in the Washington athletic department once "feared for her life" due to empty plastic water bottles raining down on a football field. Husky fans are capable of all of these things... a fact that is conveniently forgotten this time of year.

Look, every fanbase has idiot fans. Every fanbase has fans that are stupid, racist, homophobic, drunk or capable of brawling at a moment's notice. Numerous fans of both schools didn't even attend a single class at their institutions. Husky fans will argue that more Cougar fans are in this category than Husky fans, even though there never has been or never will be any proof of it. I'd argue both teams have an even ratio of intelligent fans and idiotic ones. We're better off respecting those in the first column and ignoring those in the second, regardless of school colors.

It's the disrespect of WSU that ignites a fire in me as a Cougar fan on this day. We're not looked upon as equals. The series record is 66-31-6 in favor of Washington, which would mean if the Cougars won every game from here on out it wouldn't be until 2045 that we would even tie the overall series. Again, none of this historical information matters other than to give the Huskies a nice fallback if they lose the most recent game in the series. There's comfort in this fact for the Dawg fan: As a Sounder fan I can always flaunt historical superiority over the Timbers, but I also do know one thing: I would hate losing to them. In fact, there's something particularly heartwrenching about losing to your rival when they are the underdog. We know this from experience thanks to the absolute nightmare that was the 2001 through 2003 Apple Cups - I'd imagine most of the Husky hate from our community here at CougCenter was born during that three year stretch. It's been healed a little bit in recent years, but let's face it: we prefer being the underdog upsetting our rival, not the other way around.

So, we come into today's 104th Apple Cup with nothing to lose - except, of course, our coaching staff. I'm getting tired of talking about this, as I imagine most of you are too. It was funny, but my wife posed a question that caught me completely off guard last week: what do I want WSU to do with Paul Wulff? I've ducked this for a while because a) I ultimately trust whatever decision Bill Moos makes and b) I know that no decision will be made until the end of the season, and that decision doesn't matter anyway because the program is on the upswing and will be better next year no matter who is at the helm.

Still, I suppose I should be honest about it. That's been hard to do around here because we like Paul Wulff the person... and from all accounts the man he is and the staff he's assembled don't deserve to be unemployed. What I mean by that is that they are all good guys making below average coaching salaries and in the state of the current economy it's almost vile to wish anyone be without a job. In my dreams if - and it's only an if - Paul Wulff gets fired I'd still like to see him return as the offensive line coach on the next staff. When it comes down to the ultimate decision, I've found myself agreeing with ESPN's John Clayton one hundred percent: tell me who the replacement is. If it's one of the Mikes - Mike Leach or Mike Belotti, I'm for a change. If it's almost anyone else, I'm better with Wulff returning to try to finish what he started. I can't personally find justification for hiring a coach without FBS coaching experience when we already have one with four years under his belt.

Still, In Moos We Trust. Whatever decision he makes will be the one I support. It's also one that could very well determine Moos' legacy at WSU. With that in mind, I highly doubt he'll make the wrong choice.

Recommended Local Activity - Sure, it's in Tacoma, but I still have to give some love to the Point Defiance Zoo and Aquarium. Maybe it's just that my wife and I are animal lovers, but the zoo is still one of the best ways to enjoy a random Saturday. It's fresh air, it's educational without being boring, and it's an excuse to buy ice cream. And hey, they have Zoolights going on right now.

Recommended Food - Red Mill, Red Mill, Red Mill. I have eaten probably a million burgers in my lifetime (rough estimate) and this is still my favorite. I am fully aware this is setting an expectation that cannot possibly be met, and you might not feel the same about Red Mill, but I don't care. I love it. The onion rings are a must. I recommend going to the Interbay one so that you're somewhat safely barricaded from the Husky crowd by way of the SPU district. 

Gametime Snack of the Week - Top Pot Doughnuts, of course. Man I love Seattle.

Gametime Cheap Beer of the Week - Dos Equis. I don't always drink beer...

Gametime Premium Beer of the Week - I think I'll just make it an Apple Cup tradition: Snow Cap.

Fun Fact: If you Google image search for "snow cap", you get a bunch of random images of marijuana, a variety of which is named "snow cap". I didn't know that was a thing. So now I feel like some kind of accidental pot researcher.

Prediction: Washington State 35, Washington 34.

Go Cougs.

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UW offensive line stinks.

1) Knock Price on his ass early and often.
2) Corral Polk – make Price beat you (so far he’s proven he can beat no one)
3) Enjoy picking apart the weak Huske defense.

4) WIN THE GAME!!!

Go Cougs

by ConfofChamps on Nov 26, 2011 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

haha, Price has beaten plenty of teams: Colorado, Arizona, Cal, Utah

Stopping Polk should probably be the first priority, but you’re kidding yourself if you think Price can’t beat you.

by UW11Bowdown on Nov 26, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Only because he's had the benefit of a running game.

He’s not won a game himself this year.

Stop the run, Price is helpless and hopeless.

by ConfofChamps on Nov 26, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Polk scares me, but we’ve been decent against the run recently. But Price scares truly frightens me with our secondary.

Daring Price to beat us is not a great game plan, as he’s more then capable if we can’t get some sacks.

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

ASJ will likely have a big game...

…hoping we can keep the other guys in check….or it’s going to be a long day.

by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice write up

I think the thing with the Fan bases is well articulated. I do see a difference in vitriol pointe at UW from WSU fan bases than vice versa. Same with the Oregon fans. I think this is a multi-factoral situation. First, the “most hated rival” question is a mixed bag for UW fans between Ore and WSU. This is not the case for WSU. Thus, half our fan base is less emotional about this rivalry than the Ore one. Less emotion = less emotionally fueled irrational behavior. Second, this sense of “lack of respect for our institution” is a common theme for both Ore and WSU fans. I freely cop to this accusation on behalf of my fan base. However, it is not a feeling that UW fans feel runs in reverse. We DON’T feel that you all lack fair respect for the institution that we hail from and, thus, lack one more emotional trigger that WSU and Ore fans seem to have for us. The last observation – and one that I’m less proud of – is that UW fans, as a mass, are just more apathetic about sports and football than the smaller community Eugene and Pullman crowds.

All of this, I believe, leads to the variance in “hatred” and emotion-fueled boorish behavior that seems to exist between the fan bases in the stands.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Nov 26, 2011 12:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

What bothers me most, is the UW fans who like to brag about...

…their supposed “superior academics” and…

1. The boaster has never attended UW, and/or
2. The high academic standard doesn’t appear to be all that important when it comes to the players they bring in for their revenue sports.

In other words, it’s all about winning baby.

But my position on this is well-documented if you ever read Dawgman or Cougfan.

by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I think alcohol also has a role in fueling boorish behavior

If the athletic departments want to improve fan behavior, they need to move up kickoff. The longer people have to tailgait, sit in bars, hang out in fraternity houses, etc. and drink the more mouthy and pugnacious they are going to be coming to the games.

by PullManiac on Nov 26, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

All true. Night games on rival week is a bad idea

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Nov 26, 2011 3:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I almost always root for the underdog...

It’s just more fun….and the thrill of victory is so much greater.

by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

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