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APPLE CUP 2011: WSU Vs. Washington Open Football Game Thread

Washington St. Cougars at Washington Huskies, Nov 26, 2011 4:30 PM PST



Next Game



Game time for the 2011 Apple Cup is finally upon us. We've spent the day here at CougCenter covering all the angles, and this is the tenth post since this morning. If you missed any of the coverage, go ahead and click the "complete coverage" link above.

While this is the first and only game this season where the Cougs aren't playing for a bowl game, the Apple Cup always means something, as Grady detailed in his Apple Cup Tailgater's Guide. There is pride on the line, and also the added incentive of handing the Huskies their fourth straight loss and sending them to a lower-tier bowl in a season where they once had much higher hopes.

There is also the head coach question. As Nuss asked earlier, is Paul Wulff playing for his job in the Apple Cup? The players seem to like this staff, and it will be interesting to see if they let the drive of saving their jobs push them to play harder.

This is the last game for a group of seniors who have struggled as much as any group in Cougar history. Even with that, they can go out with an even record against the Huskies (the fifth years actually can have a winning record). Not something many classes have done before them and Apple Cup victories can quickly endear certain teams to Coug fans. The WSU athletic site needs more "Great Moments in Apple Cup History" videos. It would be nice for them to make one today.

As always, we'll be in the game thread with jokes, knee-jerk analysis and most likely plenty of Husky hate. If you are one of the many that have discovered CougCenter for the first time today, we invite you to create a free account and comment along with us.

Go Cougs!

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Did the announcer say

That this is perhaps Lobster’s last game. Perhaps his last game? Really, because the fifth year senior that can’t go to a bowl game might decide to Occupy Martin and keep playing next year.

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 4:10 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

the xfl

is gonna make a comeback and “rock lobster” will be a great entrance song.

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

The back of his jersey

Will alternate between Ocho Rojo and Rock Lobster

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a Cougar shirt that says:

This is our Crimson. It’s not Crimson red. It’s not dark Crimson, and definitely not any other Crimson. This is our Crimson. Crimson and Gray. Win the day with Crimson and Gray. This is much better than any other Crimson.

So, Go Cougs.

Everything you know is wrong.

by Valiance on Nov 26, 2011 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

yes it was

how can people even act that excited about a bottle opener? Kind of funny it was so bad though….

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The dude who isn't Flutie

looks like he’s about to run to the shitter every time they cut to him.

by Dids on Nov 26, 2011 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

So close

No script helmets. Bad sign, you guys. We never lose at UW with the script + gray combo.

Writer: CougCenter Twitterer: @Grady_WSU

by Grady Clapp on Nov 26, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't Moos get rid of the Script helmets?

I feel like it was removed from the options, not that things can’t change.

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Huskies suck!

No need to paint the endzones…

by SDG on Nov 26, 2011 4:32 PM PST reply actions  

Ghost helmets?

I remember when Jerome Harrison destroyed the Huskies. The team should honor his heroics.

Everything you know is wrong.

by Valiance on Nov 26, 2011 4:34 PM PST reply actions  

I agree

The ghost helmets are sweet!

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

3 and Out!

Let’s do something here Lobster.

by GoCougs on Nov 26, 2011 4:39 PM PST reply actions  

That literally didn't happen.

Chris Polk is the best running back on the planet, right?

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 26, 2011 4:39 PM PST reply actions  

Hahaha,

What.

Everything you know is wrong.

by Valiance on Nov 26, 2011 4:40 PM PST reply actions  

FFS

CUT THE CENTER INSTANTLY

by Dids on Nov 26, 2011 4:40 PM PST reply actions  

F*** these refs

The penalty wasn’t Goetz’s fault, and now they’re in his head.

Writer: CougCenter Twitterer: @Grady_WSU

by Grady Clapp on Nov 26, 2011 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

I'm sorry

It looked like he was out of the pocket to me…

by GoCougs on Nov 26, 2011 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

its okay

it gives us more room to work with….. ;(

by SDG on Nov 26, 2011 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

Oops.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 26, 2011 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

F**K

I hate the spread punt

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

special teams

Who would have thought we would screw something up there

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

This cannot be rec’d enough. So annoying, put Forrest in his uniform.

by smrosendahl on Nov 26, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

And there's the first obvious spot

Where the announcers have been fed Wulff’s rebuilding schtick.

by Dids on Nov 26, 2011 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

The contrast between the sound here and at Husky Std

Makes it really striking how much the building makes things louder

by Dids on Nov 26, 2011 4:49 PM PST reply actions  

Didn’t they have an acoustic engineer on the design team?

by SDG on Nov 26, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

remember in camp

and the coaching staff kept talking about tempo and pace and wanted it fast…. We take the entire play clock all the time…. so frustrating.

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 4:49 PM PST reply actions  

"What was he waiting for?"

Being afraid to call something the UW fans aren’t in favor of?

by Fractal on Nov 26, 2011 4:50 PM PST reply actions  

....5 yards, are you serious? Wagner got crushed

While in mid air

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 26, 2011 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, saw the replay...

He was shoved right into him. My crimson colored glasses still wanted 15 yards.

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 26, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

he was diving,

 I can’t say that he was blocked, because our guy was touching him.

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok, I'm liking Hochuli a little more now

But that false start was still a joke.

Writer: CougCenter Twitterer: @Grady_WSU

by Grady Clapp on Nov 26, 2011 4:52 PM PST reply actions  

I understand they didn't want to risk another block

But I think I would have elected to punt that one again.

by GoCougs on Nov 26, 2011 4:53 PM PST reply actions  

2 times

just sayin. I don’t think the defense is playing terrible.

by BornCoug on Nov 26, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Again

because they’ve hardly been on the field. A tripping penalty saved our ass once, and an overthrow by Price saved a TD.

by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't Ted Miller blog about..

The Huskies historically bad defense?

Everything you know is wrong.

by Valiance on Nov 26, 2011 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

Oh. Nice catch!

Everything you know is wrong.

by Valiance on Nov 26, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Great throw!

more of that please

15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd

by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

MWQ

Better body language on the bad throw please. We know Marshall will not always hit the right spot

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

Crisis adverted

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 26, 2011 5:03 PM PST reply actions  

Strength of schedule varies so much between teams that you can't view a 0 differential as "average"

That’s what I mean.

Yes, it is good news when we blow out those teams, though

Writer: CougCenter Twitterer: @Grady_WSU

by Grady Clapp on Nov 26, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

The stat they were using was wrong.

But point differential is definitely a valid stat for evaluating football.

CougCenter In Reid We Trust, Twitter!

by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok, mea culpa

I think in-conference has to be the standard, though. Non-conf varies too much.

Writer: CougCenter Twitterer: @Grady_WSU

by Grady Clapp on Nov 26, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Being competitive against Oregon, Stanford, Utah probably doesn’t matter just because we also played an FCS and two mediocre FBS teams.

by smrosendahl on Nov 26, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

How was that a zone read

Mr VS commentator?

15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd

by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

Wow...great catch.

Not a whole lot you can do about that

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 26, 2011 5:09 PM PST reply actions  

So what we have concluded is that the next three years are going to be rough

Seferin-Jenkins and Kasen Williams will not go lightly on us.

I vote our Locker not go lightly on them

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Locker?

He’s … he’s just not very good though. Don’t let the big hits sway you.

by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I solely meant a big hit, possibly one that cements his reputation

Or to put it more plainly, I am rooting for him to hit them while defenseless and knock them out of the game with a non serious injury.

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh

I don’t ever really wish anyone gets hurt, no matter how much I dislike them or the other team.

by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I know

I just hate losing to the Huskies

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

lazy

We got a whole lot of guys looking like they have already quit

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 5:09 PM PST reply actions  

Trufant interferes on every play.

He just rolls the dice as to whether it’ll get called or not.

by Fractal on Nov 26, 2011 5:13 PM PST reply actions  

Mason! Great run!

Slips some defenders, gone for a big gain.
More outside runs please!

15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd

by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 5:14 PM PST reply actions  

watching Guerra stand there

With the ball between his feet, sums up just about everything right now.

by olypencoug on Nov 26, 2011 5:19 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I hate everything

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 26, 2011 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

you can see

that they are lazy though, quitting on plays before the wistle etc

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

No, they are not doing that

And we can’t read their mindset through the TV

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

you really

think our safeties are that slow? I have seen them try to cover ground before and they are faster than that

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I really think our safeties are bad

They have been bad at coverage all year. Focus is not their problem. Being good at playing safety is.

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

they are bad

but usually they are bad at full speed (their full speed)

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately

that IS their full speed. They’re just really bad.

by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean, I want Paul Wulff fired too

But you can find reasons for that without getting into stuff like this, which is what these arguments feel like- attempts to pin the players performance back on the coaching.

by Dids on Nov 26, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

No

no you can’t. no more of this “they’re lazy, they aren’t focused, they aren’t trying” stuff. It’s amateur psychology, and there’s no way for any of us to know whether it’s true or not. So let’s just stay away from it.

by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Ricky Galvin hit late........

I guess hitting Galvin while he is freshly on the ground and rolling is different from running over our kicker.

They need to start a Pac-12 Graduate School for Refs.

by DRYSIDECOUG on Nov 26, 2011 5:17 PM PST reply actions  

Sometimes,

I wish I didn’t care so much about this team. This is one of those times.

by james_WSU on Nov 26, 2011 5:18 PM PST reply actions  

Best reaction ever

to realizing the ball isn’t in your hands

15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd

by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

To break up the pain a little

Turn it to ABC and laugh at Stanford’s horrible jerseys

by GoCougs on Nov 26, 2011 5:19 PM PST reply actions  

AtQ is having a fun time with 'em

our uniforms may be silly, but it’s so disorientating to see Stanford with no white anywhere. Thought I was watching zona

15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd

by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm reading Tennessee Volunteers forums

They lost to Kentucky for the first time in 27 years. Kentucky played a senior wide receiver as the quarterback. Vols fans had a bad day

Stats are not a euphemism for tits.

by Trenchtown on Nov 26, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Those aren't awful

Although they are ladybugs from far away

Writer: CougCenter Twitterer: @Grady_WSU

by Grady Clapp on Nov 26, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I am getting these stupid ads

Telling me my flash player isn’t working when it obviously is

by Samsinite on Nov 26, 2011 5:20 PM PST reply actions  

Coug fans for

Nolan Washington to ride the bench

by footballin on Nov 26, 2011 5:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Meh.

He’s no worse than any other corner we have.

CougCenter In Reid We Trust, Twitter!

by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

So he's really arguing for

Coug fans for no DB’s, 11 linemen and linebackers

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Our line

appeared to mostly be pointed in the wrong direction as Polk ran through the hole

by Dids on Nov 26, 2011 5:22 PM PST reply actions  

So do I

They got to him on one play. I wouldn’t be sorry to see Montana trot out onto the field.

by BornCoug on Nov 26, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Ouch...

Ta Amu has a headache now..

by james_WSU on Nov 26, 2011 5:32 PM PST reply actions  

That scared me

wow. Hope he is alright…tomorrow.

by BornCoug on Nov 26, 2011 5:32 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Holt must have gone to Husky Stadium and shown up late

Looks like he’s finally made it and things are back to normal.

by Vegasexpat on Nov 26, 2011 5:33 PM PST reply actions  

That was a really nice little play

Keep that one in North Dakota Tech’s playbook next year homey.

by Dids on Nov 26, 2011 5:34 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Saw that too

Yeah, it’s like it never happened, since it happened to us. I don’t usually believe the conspiracy theory stuff, but man, that was pretty blatant

by Fractal on Nov 26, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops, damn mobile.

Lobster*

Everything you know is wrong.

by Valiance on Nov 26, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Lobbestael shows off some wheels

but of course there was a flag

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 26, 2011 5:35 PM PST reply actions  

fuk fuk fuk

just when something good happens.

by SDG on Nov 26, 2011 5:35 PM PST reply actions  

speed to the corners

was working and may help with some passing later

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Offense should have some confidence the last 2 drives

Ta’whatever out. There defense sucks anyway. Time for the defense to make a damn play!

by BornCoug on Nov 26, 2011 5:38 PM PST reply actions  

My experience on that TD

My inlaws are about to leave. They are not huge football fans and kept asking what I’m seeing on the twitters while I try and explain what a blog is.

They walk out the door, Lobbster runs it in. MIL opens the door for a hug, TD called back. Door closes as Lobbster throws a TD.

They are now on the way to the airport and I have a brief window of watching the game alone. I fee good things will happen.

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 5:40 PM PST reply actions  

Opened a beer

it sucked doing it without the “top off” regular openers are so hard.

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 5:40 PM PST reply actions  

Hey Versus

We don’t need replays. It’s fine. Just keep not showing them.

by GoCougs on Nov 26, 2011 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

Yay...]

3 and out…. don’t drop the punt!

by james_WSU on Nov 26, 2011 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

SPECIAL TEAMS GOT A PIECE

I don’t care that it rolled forever. Almost a block.

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 5:43 PM PST reply actions  

nice run

galvin is so quick. too bad he isn’t 240 lbs. also he is a great blocker for his size

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 5:45 PM PST reply actions  

Careful Lobster...

we don’t have any other QBs!

by james_WSU on Nov 26, 2011 5:46 PM PST reply actions  

Me too

But we lose the game, guaranteed, if Gilby plays

by Fractal on Nov 26, 2011 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Cougs are rolling!!

 Come on, TD!

15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd

by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 5:47 PM PST reply actions  

The WSU Tight End

I don’t belive it ex-AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

by Dids on Nov 26, 2011 5:47 PM PST reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOO

Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin

by Shellin on Nov 26, 2011 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

TEs are always fun

Ducks know it, Cardinal knows it, cougs are finding it out.

Meanwhile TD! Slung a bullet right in there!

15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd

by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

TIED!

Didn’t think this was going to happen. Believe!

by Samsinite on Nov 26, 2011 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

These adjustments aren't at halftime

But let’s please recognize that Sturdy/Wulff made adjustments and they worked

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

play action was working

and we ran it constantly…. super great drive

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 5:49 PM PST reply actions  

I need a Locker pick 6.

It’s a thing I’ve wanted the whole time he’s been here, especially AC.

by smrosendahl on Nov 26, 2011 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

Everyone take a deep breath

We get the ball to start the second half. And going into half at 21-14 would be a big win after that first quarter.

Also, Nick Holt is still UW’s defensive coach, and still horrible at his job.

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 5:57 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

^^^This

15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd

by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

So would I

But that first quarter was awful, they should have been up 21-0 or 28-0. To be down 7 getting the ball is a win for us.

I’m not saying we will win, I’m saying we haven’t lost.

by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

any thoughts

on the new recruit? we landed.

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 6:05 PM PST reply actions  

He's a Juco transfer.

in a class that was basically full already. I’ll have a post up tomorrow or monday

by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

gracias

I was just making football related convo…. I will proceed with special relativity next time I am bored

by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

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