APPLE CUP 2011: Washington Leads 21-14 At Half, Second Half Game Thread
by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:07 PM PST
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PrintThe game started out very poorly for the Washington State Cougars. The University of Washington blocked a punt on WSU's opening drive a returned it four a touchdown. A few drives later, Keith Price hooked up with Kasen Williams to put UW up 14-0. Things got worse as WSU running back fumbled the ball away to the Huskies on the next possession and UW began driving into Cougar territory. The Huskies missed a field goal, and the face of the game changed.
Marshall Lobbestael led the Cougs down the field, connecting with Jared Karstetter on a 3rd and 14 to cut the Husky lead in half. After a stop by the defense and partially blocked punt gave WSU good field position, they drove down the field again. Todd Sturdy worked his magic, drawing up two passing plays to little-used tight end Andrei Lintz to get deep into UW territory. Lobbestael would connect with Marquess Wilson on a TD to tie the game at 14.
However, the Huskies were able to drive down the field quickly and Price connected with Williams again for their second touchdown of the day to put UW up 21-14 at the half.
WSU will receive the ball to start the second half. This is your second half gamethread.
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I figured out what was wrong with us in the first half.
We’ll win now.
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living in boise
Even this is too much BSU to take in
by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
This should also provide luck.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
That is the synchronized swimming
Of fist pumps
There was brief 2nd half threadception
I was unsure which one to click on.
I made a slight mod to your post, Craig
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by Grady Clapp on Nov 26, 2011 6:13 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Excellent addition.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
I feel it didn't get the respect it deserved in the first half
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You all broke my photobucket account.
Well actually it was some gamer site that loves that ban GIF. Damn gamers.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
I'll delete the comment.
You can repost it.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Question of the day:
What the HELL is Stanford wearing? They look like a cross between the Utes and canned tomato paste.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 26, 2011 6:14 PM PST reply actions
Text from my friend:
“Hahaha we’re killing you!”
“1, the Huskies are winning by a single TD. 2, you went to the University of Phoenix.”
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 6:17 PM PST reply actions 9 recs
Wilson's season numbers: 79 rec 1321 yards 11 TDs
Yep.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 6:18 PM PST reply actions
They have earned their helmets
Was that too far?
by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Not at all
i was trying to think of a way to say that. You beat me to it
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
With as bad as the Special Teams have been
I’m surprised we haven’t had more “Fire Dave Ungerer!” stuff
I was being facetious
I didn’t know who he was until I looked him up to mention him
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
4-1 at the opposing 45.
What do you have to lose?
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 6:26 PM PST reply actions
Interesting you should ask that...
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
Saw that coming
Wish we could actually get pressure
Wasn't in front of the PC until now for 2nd half
1- Did Wulff really tell their sideline dude we were having trouble playing in the “big stadium” when we’ve played in here before THIS FUCKING YEAR?
2- That was a terrible decision to punt.
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Not at all.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Price is probably worse
he’s just not seeing any pressure at all.
100% disagree.
Price is pretty much better at everything than Lobbastael
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
Probably correct
but pressure Price and he throws picks.
Ok
pressure Lobbastael and he … does what exactly? That’s a pretty weak argument.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
Have you watched much of UW
Yeah, when he spends a day on his butt he starts feeling panicky. But it takes a lot of hits, not just some pressure.
Have you watched them the last few weeks
against good teams?
Yeah
And he got truly beaten up and hit. Different then pressure. And something our D-line/LB’s haven’t done all year.
Price is good. Legitimately and truly good. When he is hit and injured he makes mistakes, but that doesn’t mean he is a poor QB that can’t hit open receivers downfield against pressure.
Pressure any QB and they will not look good
Let them sit back and scan the field and they will make all kinds of throws.
I was all for the Locker is overrated conversations
Price is actually a good QB that sometimes struggles due to youth and having an O line that gets him beat up.
Almost looked open on the left side of the field to fake.
But, they were way too deep to try that.
Looked open on the 4th and 1 too.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
Need some more Galvin and Mason to the outside for the next series
by Samsinite on Nov 26, 2011 6:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
mitz
being in has me worried one or both are dinged a bit
by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
Wouldn't be surprised.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
Sturdy has the visor on backward.
Shit just got real
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 6:38 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That looked about as easy as one would expect it to against our secondary
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good times, good times
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by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
STOP CALLING SCREENS!!!
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by Shellin on Nov 26, 2011 6:44 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Keep making a game of it
If nothing else let’s get Nick Holt fired.
Great patience by Wilson to wait for the block
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 6:44 PM PST reply actions
PLEASE.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
As that play was developing I was yelling shoot the gap! shoot the gap!
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 6:45 PM PST reply actions
HE SHOT THE GAP
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
It's okay. Just make us win now.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
Can we start a #Playall4MQW hashtag yet
Or is it too early?
The Nick Montana playbook doesn't appear to have many pages...
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by GoCougs on Nov 26, 2011 6:48 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Great comment.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
Who needs to play defense
When you can just let both the QB and the WR trip and stumble at the same time.
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I swore loudly.
Thought that was a pick six.
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we are setting them up
for a double move, I hope it comes soon
Is he the only punter in the world
to kick while sprinting to the right?
Another TE throw.
Are we seeing a new record in the Wulff era with TE yards, receptions, ect?
Now would be a good time to put pressure on the QB
For some reason, we have decided not to put pressure on him all game
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decided? not so much
unable? much more likely
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by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
jokes on you
they suddenly just decided to sack Price on back to back plays.
….wait, what am I saying? EVERYbody wins in that situation!
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by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
Which one?
They all are when thrown in the direction of Toomer.
All of them.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
you're missing an H there
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
I'll spell a fake word however I like, thank you.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
insinuating "Whelp"
as in “fusky”
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
Just lulling them into a false sense of security
Part of the master plan.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, every drive we don't score I feel like it's a two score deficit.
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Haha, Paul Wulff.
I hope he isn’t let go. He is a good guy.
Everything you know is wrong.
by Valiance on Nov 26, 2011 6:58 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I don’t think he should be let go unless the team regresses next season. Sadly, idk if the Cougar AD thinks the same.
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by Brass-billed on Nov 26, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
That hit scared me to death
In the pac-12, anything like that could be a flag
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Especially if it was Luck holding the ball
Or C.Locker making the tackle.
Okay, another 4th quarter comeback now please.
Except win this one.
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HOLY FUCK
Lobster with the play of the year
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 7:04 PM PST reply actions
Washington dumbasses.
FALL ON THE BALL. FALL. ON. THE BALL.
Tried to pick it up and run, fucked it up.
Unbelievable hit by Lobbestael to prevent the first UW guy from getting it....
Streamin' and Threadin' and Shellin
Wazzu get the fumble back
WHAT A LUCKY BREAK. Lobstertail with the hit!
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Lobster cleaned the defender off then recovered
Wow
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 7:04 PM PST reply actions
And that may sound sarcastic but it's not
That’s the stuff sportswriters love but overlook when it’s a Cougar
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Lobster leads the nation in almostceptions
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by Grady Clapp on Nov 26, 2011 7:05 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
On the last two. So painful.
The opportunity to come back has been there.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Settling for FGs would have been ok with me.
but no points whatsoever kills
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Dammit UW. Turn the ball over please,
We’ve made some mistakes. It is your turn now!
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Yes.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
3 and out in the 4th?
When was the last time this happened?
Nah I would predict 8 or 9.
He has this team playing and they will just be better next year.
he has to
The alums “including this one” have had enough
by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Only if enough big money guys tell him...
otherwise, you are small potatoes.
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
We will field a football team.
It will be nicknamed the “Cougars.”
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
That doesn't happen until after the football season.
Silly.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Decemeber 21st I believe.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
We are going to make the Rose Bowl then the world will end a week before the game.
Thus is the life a WSU fan.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm not sure how I feel about this season now, if this holds up.
It’s been better than I expected, but it’s going to sting ending this way.
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If you'd given me two, I would have pushed, probably.
And then watched this season and been surprised by how close they were to more.
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This coaching staff has been criticized for being too conservative. If this is their last game, the deciding moment came on a trick play.
Ironic.
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And it wasn't the coaching staff's fault the QB threw into double coverage
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Yep...I didn't even like the call at that time...
…but easy for me the say now.
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
So i am watching the apple cup at the Rio in Las Vegas next to four guys going crazy for WSU for no other reason than they have money on the Cougs.
Its kinda surreal.
Might as well HC there
Small penalty yardage wise and you can’t keep him out the end zone any other way
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@b_dids on twitter.
I guess the 4 yard line is the place to get a personal foul
I would have preferred that they junk punch him, but that’s just me.
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IDK if you can be sure of that.
He hates the Huskies just like us and loosing this game has to hurt almost as bad.
It's the ambulance
A 80 year old Husky fan dies every time they score
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I going to figure out a way to sabotage it as an AC before I die.
That would be fun.
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
:(
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by philkid3 on Nov 26, 2011 7:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's perfect.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
Competitive game
That is what we expected. And probably going to lose by double digits, also not a shock.
Apparently they play at 10:30 a.m. tomorrow.
That should be a fun gamethread
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
I love Lobster...
but I don’t like watching our offense with him…
by james_WSU on Nov 26, 2011 7:27 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Why even play the game at all
Just wave the white flag pregame
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
Because you are trying to win a football game.
And punting there takes away any sort of change you have.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
Going for it on 4th and 13
on the 20ish yard line would be pointless. If it would have been 4th and 3 or 5…I can see that.
But punting with ~3 minutes left?
That’s ok with you?
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
No
But I don’t see how going for it and failing helps either. I know the situation sucks but…I don’t know.
You punt, you lose.
You go for it, you might convert and have a chance to score.
You don’t convert, you lose. The only reason a coach punts there is to control the score and make themselves look better. It is what NFL coaches do all the time.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
A-freaking-men.
Same exact choice he made when kicking a field goal down 30 to Cal a few weeks ago. Par for the course.
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Whats the difference?
If we score one more time what happens then?
Chance to recover onside kick
Yes, going for it and converting increases our chance of winning by .01 percent. But it means we are playing to win to the final buzzer.
You can't score without possession.
There were 4 minutes left. We had to score three times. Do the freaking math. It isn’t hard.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Excuse me for having an opinion...
You guys don’t have to be assholes. I’m upset about the loss just as much as you. Do you feel better getting to belittle someone for having a different thought than you?
You are making a tired old argument that has been proven wrong by statistics long ago.
But continues to be championed by broadcast booths and head caches. It frustrates me. Sorry about my last couple sentences. They were out of line.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
It's cool. I wasn't really trying to argue a point
I was just trying to salvage some optimism I guess. That was a pretty frustrating game.
Right
We would have to play some defense and recover an onsides kick. There is more than just math to this.
The point is you make it literally impossible to win if you give the ball to the other team.
Possession is valuable. It is very difficult to score without it.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
The only reason to punt there is to not lose by more.
Is that really a good reason to punt?
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
At this point they are just points.
You punt because it’s 4th down.
And that's the problem!
It is not a rule in football that you have to punt on fourth down. It just seems like it is.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I get that it isn't a rule.
But you accomplish nothing by going for it. Sure. We could possibly score a touchdown. Give the ball back to the Huskies with a minute left. Game over. Same outcome.
It's about playing to win when there is still a chance
Punting is conceding. Wulff is 9-39. He should play to win at all costs.
That crappy trick play is going all out. Why change strategy a few minutes later because the chance is less.
Holt’s defense is bad. There is always a chance of a score/onside kick/score and then who knows.
by 02Coug on Nov 26, 2011 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The crappy trick play can get you momentum
Going for it on 4th gets you 20 something yards and 3 minutes left to score 17 points. There was no longer any momentum to gain.
So punting just says it's over and we know it
I guess I don’t see the difference. You are right, there is no momentum left and the game is over. Our coach is fighting for his life and should be pulling out all the stops.
If we are an 8-3 team going into this, with a coach secure in his job, protect the score and punt. But this is not our situation.
I just don't see a problem with punting.
This is more of me just suprised that people are so bent out of shape about it. Would we be any happier? Would the game be any different? There was an entire game before that 4th down.
It's just 4 years of frustration coming out
To sound like bpcoug for a second, you play to win the game.
After 4 years the reality is that we needed to compete for all 60 minutes today. Punting was conceding the loss, admitting defeat, against our biggest rivals. What do you gain? Going for it keeps the ball in our hands and as long as that is true something crazy can happen.
I think this is a fanbase that is really really tired of moral victories.
I was a little frustrated.
But I guess I’m tired of people using everything as an excuse for firing/retaining Wulff.
For me that play isn't the reason
To keep or fire. It is a sign of a mentality of a coach. At the end of the day I truly trust Moos, but as a fan was frustrated by a punt by a coach with nothing to lose in that situation.
I guess this would be my point, at that point in the game his future was pretty much decided one way or the other (probably before the game started). So why not hang it all out there and see if a miracle can happen?
So why not try?
Why just give up? What kind of message does that send? When the going gets tough, say screw it and punt.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
How is it giving up?
Did he drop his head set and leave?
It is not attempting to win the game. Thus it is giving up.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
Herm Edwards.
Yes. But at that point there is nothing we could have done to win that game. Except get the 4th and whatever and then score a TD, recover the kick, score, recover, score.
So even if it is a 0.01 percent chance why not take it?
Why not at least go for it. What do you gain by punting?
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 26, 2011 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
But a different message
Punting, as a 9-39 coach against your rival, says you are used to losing and have accepted it.
Going for it says “fuck it, I’m going deep. Screw the pansies that want to save face”
At 9-39, you need to be in that mindset.
They're punting!
Of course they are. I wouldn’t expect anything less from Paul Wulff,
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WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PUNTING?
WAVE THE FUCKING WHITE FLAG!
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
yes he did
He is done and I think he probably knows that
by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
Oh jeez I just said this exact same thing to someone on gchat.
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by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
I actually like him
but this team was too inconsistent all season. Even with the youth. Kind of like an erikson team always being penalized, a CPW team will never work like it should for 4 quarters.
by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
I really wanted him to win this year
But yeah, time to move on from Wulff at this point.
I did too...
…and maybe I’m delusional, but I actually think Moos let’s him have another season.
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
nope
The money has mostly said he should go and after this…. 90% will say he has to go.
by Yrrals Larry on Nov 26, 2011 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
You know this for a fact....or just trying to connect the dots?
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
Hard to keep your 9-40 coach....
….when you need to raise money to renovate your stadium
The JustinTv thread
Just changed the channel. I guess they got bored.
Punting
is just so Wulfftastic. Why try and win when they’re so much better and more talented than we are. We play so good and still can’t win.
UGH.
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@b_dids on twitter.
Sarkie is an idiot.
I am developing a healthy hate for him.
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 7:31 PM PST reply actions
Damn those mean coaches that try until the game is over.
Don’t they know there are juice boxes in the locker room?
by Vegasexpat on Nov 26, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha.
The point is that the game is OVER.
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
FIRE HOLT FOR GIVING UP 21 TO A FCS SCHOOL
Just recapping what will happen on UWDAWGPOUNG tomorrow.
I feel sad.
Damn
And I wanted to go to New Mexico in the middle of December. Lucky Dawgs.
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I miss living in New Mexico.
Just not in December.
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goodnight everyone
I hope you have a great sunday! Here is to next season!
Who will be the next WSU coach?
Given the choice, would you like anyone from this staff to stay?
just cruisin down stadium way
I hate coachsterbating
but fuck it. I want Kirby Smart (Alabama DC) and Mark wants Justin Wilcox (Tennessee DC, former Boise State DC). No no no to Belotti, and I think Leach goes elsewhere.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
Agree no on Belotti (even if he were interested)...don't know those other guys you mention (besides Leach)
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
100% agree on Belotti
Have no desire for him to coach WSU. I think we should try and take a run at Kevin Sumlin at Houston. Look what he did with their offense and look how good ours COULD be next season.
Belotti is OK with me
If there is a clear plan for what we do when he retires.
But I would prefer elsewhere, a younger DC or OC with ties to the west coast.
Only way I'm ok with Belotti
is if we bring in a young OC or DC with plans to make him HC in a few years a la Dick/Tony Bennett. Otherwise no thanks. Mid 60s? Pass.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
That is what I'm ok with
Moos knows Belotti and I trust Moos. If he has a candid conversation and Belotti says, behind closed doors, this guy is going to be the guy in 3 years than I am OK with it.
But just a straight hire, heck no.
I dont see the SEC guys as options.
They make as much money as DC’s in the SEC as they would in Pullman. I wonder about Leach; he is brought up for every opening but no one has hired him.
Absolutely false.
We have Pac 12 TV money coming in. Smart just got a raise to $750k this year. Prior to that, he was making just over $300k. You think we honestly can’t afford to give him 1.5 million? Not that we will, but the “they make as much as a coordinator as they would in Pullman” rhetoric doesn’t fly when we’re not poor any longer. Salary isn’t a huge hill like it always has been.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Why not Belotti?
At least we know with Belotti we wouldn’t be hiring someone who is looking to jump ship when the going is good. He has a good 8-10 years left of coaching so he could be around for quite some time. He has proven success with Moos before and he built a solid team at Oregon. If he could build a team anywhere near the team he had at Oregon at WSU I’d be stoked.
Saint Mike has an eye for coaching talent.
He’ll find a guy to be his successor. Chris Peterson, Jeff Tedford, Gary Crowton, Chip Kelly. There’s a pretty good list of guys he’s plucked from obscurity.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 26, 2011 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Coaching talent and recruiting and finally some money
Unlike every coaching hire an athletic coordinator ever had to deal with, Bill Moos is going to have the opportunity to pay his new head coach a decent salary and more in line with that of a good BCS school with the ability to pay for quality assistants and not just young cheap bucks. Wulff and Moos have done well with Howard, Morton, and some other hires, but a good head coach with good assistants is going to recruit better and play better than what we’ve seen from WSU recently.
Here's a left-field thought:
Norm Chow?
just cruisin down stadium way
by DarrowStreet on Nov 26, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
He's been a goat plenty of times...
Does he want the HC responsibility and see what he really can do?
just cruisin down stadium way
by DarrowStreet on Nov 26, 2011 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
I don't want to give him HC responsibility to see how badly he can do.
Have you watched UCLA at all?
He is no longer OC of UCLA
He’s with Utah now.
Not that this is a ringing endorsement, but still.
If we can have a time machine and hire Norm Chow from 7
years ago I’m all for it. But unfortunately his time has passed.
First time head coach at 65, 66 by the start of the season, no thanks.
Besides what others have said
He’s pretty much a prick … at least according to my USC and UCLA friends
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
Last suggestion from the usual suspects: Gus Malzahn, OC at Auburn
Seems like an SEC guy through and through, but screw these DC suggestions. I want an OC or headcoach.
just cruisin down stadium way
by DarrowStreet on Nov 26, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Older than I thought.
Mark and I had this discussion via e-mail a while ago. Malzahn isn’t in his mid 30s like I thought (though at 46, it’s not like he’s super old), and he makes 1.3 million already. Hard to see him as a legit option.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 26, 2011 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
Did I say how much I hated the dogs?
The good news is that we sure made Holtie look like a defensive genius…so maybe they’ll extend him.
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 7:41 PM PST reply actions
O Linemen
maybe we should begin to recurit o line men.?
another year of …would of… could of and should of. Glad the season is over…
Didn't we recruit some this year?
Like 6 or 7?
Go check out some of our commits for this year
Although lets see how many stay if we go through a coaching change.
It better make me feel better.
Or else I’ll….
by westsidecougar1 on Nov 26, 2011 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
WE WON!
I swear. Don’t listen to what anyone tells you.
CougCenter In Reid We Trust, Twitter!
by Craig Powers on Nov 26, 2011 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
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