VIDEO: Paul Wulff, Ken Bone Meet The Press
by Jeff Nusser on Nov 8, 2011 9:00 PM PST
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It's press conference Tuesday at WSU, which means both football coach Paul Wulff and men's basketball coach Ken Bone met with the assembled local media today.
Wulff talked about the ideal weather report for Saturday and facing AD Bill Moos' son, Bo Moos, a defensive tackle for ASU. He also tried to make some sense out of Saturday's face-plant against California, talking (again) about the enormity of the rebuild here and just how young the team is, sticking to his talking points about the number of four- and five-year players in the program. He also said he welcomes Steve Gleason talking to the team this weekend. There was a lot more, but you can watch the video if you want to know more.
Bone started off by addressing the team's injury issues, which include Reggie Moore, Faisal Aden and Abe Lodwick all being questionable for the season opener on Monday at Gonzaga. And if you read between the lines, it doesn't sound real likely that any of them will play. He also talked a bit about replacing DeAngelo Casto (his diplomatic response about D.J. Shelton made me smile), how the newcomers are adjusting, and what kind of effort he's going to need from the entire roster if all three of those guys sit out.
Video after the jump.
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LC STATE WARRIORS
I like how frank Bone was about LC State not helping the team much in preparation. This year it seems especially bad opening up against Gonzaga and not having a few light games to work out the kinks. I realize that LC State makes sense from a geographical perspective but it would by nice if we could attract a more competitive exhibition opponent. I know that there are several travelling teams of ex college players.
Whitworth always has a solid basketball program
Maybe it’s time to bring the Pirates down to Pullman
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Although, for what it's worth, I don't mind LCSC.
They treat it as a rivalry game, so the competition is at least a bit more intense than say the EA Sports All-Stars
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I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
I feel like Bone gives one of the most honest interviews
that I see from head coaches. I don’t know if that is a good thing or bad thing, especially if you are DJ Shelton. I didn’t want to hear that report on DJ, I thought he would be farther along than that. Or Bone under plays things in order to motivated…I don’t know.
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it's night and day from Wulff
Wulff got called out in his interview for saying one thing after the game and another at the press conference. After the game, he said that the team played inexcusably, but after reviewing the tape thought that they didn’t do that bad of a job. In his case, he has come to conclusion that he cannot crtiticize the team if he wants to save face. His interviews have become “save face” speeches.
As for Bone’s interview, it is my opinion that honesty is only bad when it is hurtful. He said that Shelton was working hard, but was still “raw” and had a long way to go. He mentioned his youth. To me that is a motivating message and one that Shelton is hopefully hearing in practice on a daily basis since it is Bone’s job to oversee his development as a player.
I'd love to see Abe hit the 3
I still remember watching him do pregame warm ups while he red shirted. Always thought to myself, “Damn, this kid is going to be great to watch.”
Getting a head start on the physical for his next job?
… I’ll show myself out….
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by TiltingRight on Nov 8, 2011 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Talking points or grim facts?
I mean really- it does have an effect on the nature of play. Vets matter and they matter more at the smaller schools like WSU than they do at the bigger schools with the 5 star deep rosters. In point of fact, there are 5 guys w/ 5 years in the program and 11 w/ 4 years. That number of 16 is lower than any other Pac 12 school this year. Lower than any WSU team I remember and I go back to the 70’s.
I know the decree was ‘bowl or bust’ so it has become this kind of given talking point that anything less is a huge failure. But all that aside— there has never been a Coug football team in the modern era that had less than 40 seniors and juniors and made a bowl game. The 1997 team had 56 srs. and jrs. and the 2003 team (the Pac 10 title teams) had 48.
I want wins as bad as the next guy— but this team is still extremely young and plays like it- most especially on defense. Reads and recognition for these young bucks in the secondary and the LB’s (CJ, Kaufusi and ALL frosh) have been awful. Yeah, Wulff has to win to save his job— but the discussion needs to be realistic- he has very young guys and he should get to say so.
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I'd be willing to fudge the 6 win season
if there were significant improvement across the board. But Tuel going down doesn’t have anything to do with how poorly the D has played at times. And in “winnable” games, we’ve won 2 handily, split 2 tight, and been left sucking our thumbs in the corner for two. The trend hasn’t been good, either (getting better over the course of the season).
I will say this, I’m not saying Wulff FOR SURE needs to go. I’m willing to look at the next three games without my mind made up, but holy crap is something going to have to change.
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by TiltingRight on Nov 8, 2011 11:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
isn't that kinda what to expect without quality & quantity upperclassmen?
“And in "winnable" games, we’ve won 2 handily, split 2 tight, and been left sucking our thumbs in the corner for two.”
by Blackie1829 on Nov 9, 2011 8:48 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
UNLV and ISU shouldn't count in the "winnable games" category
you win those games just for showing up.
throw out UNLV, ISU, Oregon and Stanford. We’re 1-4 in our “winnable games.”
fair enough
Doesn’t change that these things happen to young teams, particularly with a starting QB out and a DL playing OL. Not to mention a suspect-at-best defense.
The issue to me is whether or not Wulff and staff can coach these guys and the incoming class up over the next few years to become a legit competitive Pac12 team.
by Blackie1829 on Nov 9, 2011 10:57 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
i don't really buy the youth argument anymore
this team returned something like 18 starters from last year. it’s not like a bunch of kids fresh out of high school are being trotted out there every week.
if we’re still arguing in year four about whether or not Wulff will be able have this team legitimate in 2014, I think we already know the answer.
my youth stance is relative to our "quality" players
How many of those returning starters would be starting on any other pac12 teams? 4?
by Blackie1829 on Nov 9, 2011 12:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Who does that fall on?
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by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 9, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
i blame obama...and spokane
Do you really think our current juniors and seniors should be legit players given the circumstances under which they entered the program? A no-name coaching staff was trying to recruit them to the remnants of a total shitshow.
by Blackie1829 on Nov 9, 2011 1:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wrong question to ask
Are the players we have getting better?
Are the coaches putting them in the best possible positions?
Are we still seeing mental and fundamental mistakes on a routine basis?
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by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 9, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
For what it's worth...
There’s not a ‘younger’ team in the Pac 12 than Oregon this year.
Wulff should take a look at the Ducks’ roster and see all the freshman and sophomores who start or play significant minutes.
We've talked and both really want Wulff to be the guy
the issue to me isn’t just can Wulff and staff be successful in the future. But can we get someone who will be more successful.
Meet me at the cowder bowl on sat and we can fight it out.
I didn't mean to make it a condescending remark if it came off that way
He’s just repeated it so many times – even the broadcast crew said it on Saturday, and I’m assuming it’s because he talked about it in the pre-production meeting – I’m drawing the conclusion that it’s calculated.
How long until the youth excuse expires?
This team should at the very least be showing signs of life. They aren’t. They are a complete mess in every phase of the game. Our receivers still cannot block down field, they drop passes all the time, our defenders cannot tackle, our d-line cannot get off blocks, and our defensive overall is just a mess.
This is the reason many of us want him gone.
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by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 9, 2011 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
I almost forgot
We go for the field goal down 30-0 in the 3rd quarter.
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by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 9, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
It really bothered me that Wulff seemed so annoyed in his press conference.
He rolled his eyes at more than one question, and a lot of the stuff seemed to insinuate that we’re all stupid because we’re not coaches. I mean, coaches are definitely smarter than fans, and I get that it all has to be a lot of pressure and stress at this point, but we’re not the ones who said “get ready to go someplace warm” last year.
I was one of the people that said “bowl or bust” was absolutely nuts because we just don’t have that much talent, but I just don’t want to be embarrassed by the OSU and Cal’s of the world. I definitely don’t want to hear how Cal is the most talented team, and that “well, we played good football, they just played better football” bullshit.
There’s only so much you can take before excuses start falling on deaf ears.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 9, 2011 1:48 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Bowl or bust
I’m with you on that comment Kyle. I thought maybe 6 if Tuel played at a very high level because the supporting cast still isn’t there yet.
It seemed in general most posters guessed around 6 wins before the season started. It would have been interesting to see what people would have predicted for wins one week before the season started if they knew Tuel would be out for year. I probably would have guessed 2 or 3. Any thoughts?
On only having 5 seniors. Don’t know how you would quantify this. But one thing seniors bring is a sense of urgency to a game and season. This is there last chance and they want to go out on as winners. It will be nice when we have 20+ seniors with that feeling and unfortunately we are still 2 years away.
Is that really your retort though?
I understand it’s tongue-in-cheek, but our defense blows. Like, a lot. Not sure we’d be that much better with him behind center. Maybe UCLA? So, what … 4 wins instead of 3?
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 9, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
It would probably only help in terms of points.
I would hope our offense would be able to stay on the field a little longer with Tuel which would make it a little easier on the D. But the problems we are having now would still remain, yes.
as someone who predicted in the pre-season we'd go 4-8, i have been firmly in the "bowl or bust" camp
you need to be a .500 team by your fourth year to show you’re progressing the program. by this point, if “we just don’t have that much talent,” whose fault is that?
But they are so young!
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by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 9, 2011 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not saying it's not Wulff's fault
I was just saying I don’t like the unrealistic expectations of people who are now doing the “shoulda woulda coulda” thing
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 9, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
that's the thing, they're not unrealistic expectations
i’m not even looking at it from a game-by-game basis, as much as I’m trying to figure out how far behind our construction job is. Are we a year behind? Two years behind? If we finish this year 4-8 and Moos shocks the world and brings Wulff back, does anyone realistically think we’re going to a bowl game next year?
That’s why I was and remain in the “bowl or bust” camp (although I probably would’ve been swayed at 5-7 with the right wins) specifically because this era of Cougar football STILL hasn’t shown it can do anything more than play two quarters of competitive football against a mediocre team and year four has to be a “put up or shut up” year, regardless of the preseason outlook.
in other words
Yes Coach, I see your roster and recognize the odds are against you. This is your fourth year. Figure it out or we’ll find someone who will.
I don’t find that to be unrealistic.
Will it really "shock the world"
if Wulff is back next year?
I’ll be more shocked if we can him.
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by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 9, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
of course it will end up that way
i’ve maintained i’m only renewing my seats for next year if December has either a Cougar Bowl Game or Cougar Press Conference announcing the new coach. It would be incredibly fitting for WSU to call my bluff.
They would be calling my bluff as well
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by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 9, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
I'm waiting a few weeks to talk to them
Not that they really want to hear my opinion anymore than they already do.
I won’t bluff them, I’ve doubled down already and they know it. I’m doing it for the future of cougar sports and I if we aren’t preparing for a bowl I will let them know keeping the staff isn’t supporting my efforts.
I’ve been very level headed and patient for years. Even for most of this season, but I’ve lost it.
(not that I’m trying to make this about me and my efforts, but I wan’t them to know where I’m coming from. This is OUR program, not Wulff’s or Moos’)
Ok, well that's fair.
I mainly heard people say “well they’re gonna be tired of getting beat up and so that’s why they’ll win now” rhetoric, and it made me insane. I can actually get behind your line of reasoning.
by Kyle Rancourt on Nov 9, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
I think you and other Coug fans would feel different
if the losses were of the 30-28 and 21-20 variety, where at least the team was in the game and had an opportunity to win. But getting blown out of the water by the likes of OSU and Cal has to be very painful.
I was in the same camp
start 4-1 and lose out is what I was thinking over the summer. And I was in the bowl or bust camp.
I’m more in the bowl or bust camp now due to how we’ve been getting curb stomped.
Man, on a personal note I feel for the guy...
You can tell how badly he wants this to work. You can also see his frustration and reluctance with having to answer the tough questions. There is no question he’s thinking about it a lot and just wants to get past it – one way or the other. I do like seeing that he’s still fighting for his job. He could of glossed over a lot of those questions – but he didn’t.
I’m rooting for the guy, but I unfortunately just don’t see a scenario where he stays. The only way would be to keep the ASU game relatively close, (hopefully beat Utah), and then finish on a high note with a Apple Cup win. This coupled with Moos doing his heat check on prospects and nothing seeming to fit. That’s a lot to ask though.
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin.
It is interesting...
Bone said that he would be missing 2 starters. I thought Reg, Abe and Aden would all be starters. Ladd must be starting and Aden must still be coming off the bench. Or is Bone going 4 guards and Motum?
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Aden really needs to be this team's Ricky Pierce/Chuck Person
a microwave off the bench that can hit shots in bursts.
If Aden’s starting, that should say a lot about what CKB thinks of our other guards.
Many people forget he was drafted by the Sonics
and played for them from 1979-81 before going to the Pistons. 13 yrs in the League, not bad.
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Maybe he'll start early but come off the bench later after Ladd gets his feet wet.
It’s sort of Aden’s spot to lose. He was here last year and is probably the best option out of the returning guards.
This is how I see it.
Starting lineup if everyone is healthy. (numbers are not indicative of position)
1. Reg
2. Capers (Lacy could eventually take this spot later in the year)
3. Ladd
4. Lodwick
5. Motum
If those three guys are hurt for GU
1. Lacy
2. Capers
3. Ladd
4. Enquist / Simon / Dilorio (Sorry I couldn’t make up my mind here)
5. Motum
Clear eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose
Hey any news on BB LOIs today?
I saw on twitter that Brett Boese and Richard Longrus said they sent them in. Yesterday on twitter Demarquise Johnson said he was doing it and I haven’t heard anything on Richard Peters. When does the athletic department confirm they are signed?
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I can't believe there isn't any film on Brett Boese.
I am curious to see him play. Has anyone in the Spokane area seen him play?
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Grippi's morning post said Bone would be holding a 1:30 press conference.
Haven’t heard any news from it yet.
by Mark Sandritter on Nov 9, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Bone is holding his press conference at 4:30.
It was originally scheduled for 1:30, so that tells me they probably learned of a delay with one or two of the letters. Nothing to worry about yet.
Damn those old fax machines! They will give you heartburn.
WSU need AD fund raising for eFax. Adobe Acrobat with the electronic signature is expensive. What a monopoly.
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No Peters. I wonder what happened.
I am very happy with the 3 that signed, but again a missing big man. I wonder if it is a grades thing. Bone said he will add another player. I wonder when that will happen.
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Sounds like he needs his mom's signature on his LOI
Should be sent in the next day or two. (per Grippi and Percy Allen)
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Bone usually doesn't show much emotion, but this interview was different.
His reaction to Caple’s 19 year old opinion on Cougar Gold Cheese.
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by SoCalCoug on Nov 9, 2011 7:56 AM PST reply actions 8 recs
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