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EXCLUSIVE: CougCenter Interview With WSU Recruit Denzell Dotson

Oh that's right, CougCenter is movin' on up in the world of blogging. Earlier today, I sat down with Cactus HS (Glendale, AZ) OL Denzell Dotson and talked about the recruiting process, the direction Washington State is headed, and how he's adjusting with a new coaching staff in place.

We also talked about calzones. Delicious, delicious calzones.

Dotson will represent the West during the Offense-Defense All-American Bowl, to be played at Cowboys Stadium on December 30th. That game can be seen on Fox Sports. Past participants in the O-D All-American Bowl include Cam Newton, Earl Thomas, and Golden Tate. So while, no, this isn't the Army All-American game aired on ESPN, the O-D Bowl is still a big deal.

Scheduled to graduate high school the 22nd of this month, Dotson will be in Pullman in time for the start of Spring Semester on January 9th.

Before the coaching change took place, Dotson was 100% committed to the Cougs. He had an offer to stay closer to home and play for Arizona State, but he chose the bright lights and big city feel of Pullman. After former head coach Paul Wulff was let go, Dotson still wanted to come to Pullman. He loved the coaches, but he committed to the school. The one thing he wanted to make sure before reaffirming his commitment was that he was wanted by the new coaching staff.

A call from Mike Leach and OL coach Clay McGuire the other day did just that.

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What did Coach Leach and McGuire say to you during the phone call?

"They had seen my tape. Coach Leach said he liked how I was able to run block as well as pass block. You know, that I was pretty good at both. They said they'd love to have me in Pullman. That's really all it took."


Watching tape of your high school team, it seems as if you ran some variation of a four wide receiver, air it out, spread-type offense.

"Yeah we played in the spread. We didn't just throw the ball; we ran it a bunch, too. But I've basically been playing in an offense similar to what Coach Leach wants to do for my entire football career. That's why he thinks I'm a good fit for his offense."


What position do you think you'll play in college?

"You know, I've played guard basically my whole life, but I also played some center, too. As a guard, I knew everyone's assignments, and I made sure everyone did their jobs. After talking to Coach McGuire, I think center is probably the best position for me. I'm really quick off the ball."


You took your official visit to Pullman for the UNLV game. That was also the official visit for Dalen Jones, Sam Flor, and Eduardo Middleton. All four of you committed to WSU. What happened on that visit?

"Well, we had some good laughs, and some good moments. Dalen was already committed. I talked to Sam and Eduardo, and we all just liked the place. When I got off the plane, it was nothing like Arizona. No mountains, just wheat fields for days. I was worried at first, it seemed like a super small town with like, 100 people. But then I met everyone, and I've never been around so many genuinely nice people. We all talked after the game, and we realized we just loved Wazzu. We loved everything about it. They asked me what I thought we should do, and I just said 'This is the place for me'. One thing I'm gonna have to get used to, though, is the snow."


With your new found love of Pullman, have you used your powers of persuasion to lure any potential recruits to Wazzu?

"Hah actually, yeah, I've tried. There are some great players in this state, and I'm trying to talk them up, trying to get them on board. At the end of the day, they're gonna choose who they're gonna choose, but I'm trying to push Wazzu because I know how good it looks going forward."


When did Wazzu officially offer you?

"During Spring ball this year. Coach Raz talked to my high school coaches, and they mentioned that Wazzu wanted to offer me. Then we got in contact with him and he said, 'Yeah, we really want you.' Wazzu was my first offer, and they were great."


You have offers from other schools. Did they all slow down once you committed to WSU, or did they heat up, asking you to decommit?

"Arizona and Arizona State started slowing up in terms of contact. I think they knew I was 100% committed."


With WSU having such a poor record in the past few years, what made you consider them, and ultimately want to visit?

"They had a bad record, but it sounded like a great place. Plus, they were the first to offer me, and I liked them because of that. I wanted to check it out myself, and see what all the talk was about. I went on a lot of other visits, and they were nice, but didn't quite feel right. With Washington State, it just felt right."


What are your numbers in the weight room looking like these days?

"Great. I bench 380, clean 315, and squat 605. Really, I have to thank the people at Athletic Republic. Specifically Dr. Kristopher Birkeland, and Mike Birkeland. They helped me a lot with footwork, agility training, and just getting better in general. I've been training with them since my freshman year, and wouldn't be where I am now without them."


You were only rated 2 stars from Scout.com. Does seeing that make you angry or upset?

"Not angry, but it makes me want to prove them wrong. A lot of coaches go off of rankings on websites, but I don't think that's fair. I went to a few camps, like one at ASU, and they were all like, "This kid is awesome". I don't think they say that about a lot of 2 stars. So it kinda makes me want to show that I should have been rated much higher."


I've heard you were a pretty quiet, reserved guy off the field. One of the tapes I watched of you was in one-on-one drills where it got a little chippy with the guy you were up against. Does this happen a lot?

"I'm pretty good friends with everyone off the field and everything's great. But when we get on the field, it's time to go to work. The guy in that video was talking a bunch of crap about how much I sucked. Then I planted him in the ground. It happens a lot. Guys talk crap, guys do things to try to get to me like, you know, kneeing me in the back, elbowing me in the throat, that type of stuff. They think I won't do anything. The next play, they're on the ground, hurt. I'm not gonna mess around."


Since the O-D Bowl is on TV, are you gonna do the three hat thing and choose WSU on live TV?

"Hah no, I think everyone knows I'm going to Wazzu at this point. But I'll make sure everyone, my whole family, my mom, my uncle, my grandparents, everyone has some Wazzu hats and shirts on. Get Washington State some more exposure."


Speaking of grandparents, I hear yours are moving to Washington?

"Yep. They're moving up there to be close to me, and watch some games in person. It'll be really nice to have family around. They'll come up in the summer when it's like, 115, 120 in Arizona. Then they'll go back when it starts getting cold."


What super secret talent do you have that people should know about?

"Hah, well ... I'm a great poker player. People never know if I'm bluffing. I love playing cards."


Finally, do you have any questions for Cougar Nation?

"Well I loved my time in Pullman, but wasn't there for very long. What are some good restaurants?"

Sellas is the first place that comes to mind. They have calzones bigger than my head.

"Really? Oh man, I love calzones."

Cougar Country is a must, as well. They have delicious milkshakes, and big, messy burgers.

"Hah sounds like my kinda place."

Old European is really good for breakfast. On Game Day, the line is out the door, though, so you have to get there early.

"I'll make sure to let my family know to get there early."

There are way too many for me to name. Just come check out CougCenter when the article goes up, and read the comment section. I'm pretty sure it'll turn into a post 100% devoted to giving you good places to eat.

"Haha ok thanks."




So there you have it. Denzell Dotson is a quiet, reserved, mountain of a young man who refuses to take crap from anyone on the field. He's had experience in this type of offense already, and he talked about the possibility of starting from Day 1. I am extremely excited for the Spring Game, and even more so for September. Dotson is the kind of recruit we should all be getting really excited about. He's the type of recruit WSU has always counted on to build their program into a winner.

Welcome, Denzell. Also, try the Breakfast Club in Moscow. Their biscuits and gravy are delicious.

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Seems like a great kid

If you’re down here in AZ, I live in North Scottsdale, shoot me a message and we’ll get some drinks or something

by AirRaidCoug on Dec 15, 2011 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

Me? or Denzell?

I did the interview over the phone. It just sounded cooler if I said “sat down with”. I mean, I was sitting, so it’s not entirely untrue.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 15, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

You

I’m not getting some drinks with a 17 or 18 year old kid

by AirRaidCoug on Dec 15, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking

but I was like, hey, maybe they do things differently in Arizona.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 15, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite line of that quote is

" But when we get on the field, it’s time to go to work."

Love it.

by wazzu93 on Dec 15, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I thought he was going to be a great guard

but he’s like, welp, they think it’s best for me, and I think I’m a leader type, so yeah, I’m all for it.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 15, 2011 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Not necessarily true.

But I get what you’re saying. I think she was more pointing to how it wasn’t a big deal or even an issue in the slightest. A lot of the time when a guy moves, he does so begrudgingly. Dotson was in with both feet.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 15, 2011 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I think a move from guard to center is a little easier to swallow

than a move from, say, OL to DL might be. Or WR to DB.

I'm a glass half full kind of guy. My glass just happens to be half full of bourbon. And sitting next to several empty glasses.

by J.J. FeKl on Dec 15, 2011 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

True.

But hiking the ball in a shotgun formation is something I’d be scared of. He’s not worried.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 15, 2011 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He looks Great!

A great video, I love that he always goes for the extra push at the end. A smart, athletic, center is just what we need to anchor the line.
Go Cougs

by hbelvoir on Dec 15, 2011 6:13 PM PST reply actions  

We just offered Eldrenkamp!

Per Jake Worthen on Twitter, we have offered Jake Eldrencamp, O-linemen from Bellevue!

by hbelvoir on Dec 15, 2011 6:15 PM PST reply actions  

Boy, that's interesting.

I wonder if one of the linemen we were recruiting is moving on, or if we cut one loose.

The word I’ve heard on Eldrenkamp was that he played soft. Maybe he found some piss and vinegar this year.

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by TiltingRight on Dec 15, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I've thought this since we got him, actually.

But I don’t really like speculating on kid’s grades. It feels weird. I hope he makes it in, because he’s a huge get.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 15, 2011 6:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Jake would be a good player for this team

I know he had an ankle injury over half of this season and played hobbled quite a bit but he is a great player. 4.0 gpa, very smart player and he seems to be leaning towards wsu after talking to him.

by CougGuy86 on Dec 15, 2011 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Not entirely true

His parents both went to uw but they really wanted him to go there even before he got this offer. They felt the atmosphere would be a great for him.

by CougGuy86 on Dec 15, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

definitely a factor

and when i played with him he was always pretty soft

by WinOrLoseWeStillBooze on Dec 15, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

ehh thats tough to say

The #52 jersey holds a big meaning to bellevue players and is handed down from one linemen to the next. The next two people who had a shot at wearing the jersey were Jake eldrenkamp and Marcus Henry (year older, full ride at bosie state) so basically to see who got to wear it they both lined up and went head to head in a blocking drill. Jake ended up winning and got to wear the #52 jersey. Some might think he is soft but if you watch him during games he smashed kids consistently.

by CougGuy86 on Dec 15, 2011 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

if you talk to any of the lineman my year... 2009

everyone say’s he has size but was not tough. Theres a reason he was not kingco 1st team.

by WinOrLoseWeStillBooze on Dec 15, 2011 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

well I mean he was a sophomore when you guys were seniors haha

And he wasn’t first team because he hurt his ankle against mercer island early in the year and was out for a couple weeks. When he came back he kept injuring it and was never 100% for the rest of the season.

by CougGuy86 on Dec 15, 2011 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

you can make that excuse

but i honestly don’t think he will be able to handle pac-12 football. I’d love for him to prove me wrong though

by WinOrLoseWeStillBooze on Dec 15, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldnt call that an excuse rather than a valid point.

If the new coaching staff felt Jake would be a good get for the team then I fully support their offer to him.

by CougGuy86 on Dec 15, 2011 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

My dad's a Husky

and encouraged me more than anyone, by far, to go to WSU over UW. Hmm.

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by Fractal on Dec 15, 2011 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Ewing Offers-Emerick

Ewing had offers from Arizona, Arkansas and Houston. Currently 2 stars on Scout! Emerick probably led to this commit!

by hbelvoir on Dec 15, 2011 6:31 PM PST reply actions  

I can't help but to bring this up

when Wulff got hired he only had three committed recruits to check back with. Leach has close to twenty. There is sometihing to be said for that.

The blood of "The Five" cries for justice.

by PullManiac on Dec 15, 2011 6:38 PM PST reply actions  

Wulff

Wulff and staff did a good job in recruiting. Especially considering the results on the field, He left us in a good position.
Go Cougs!

by hbelvoir on Dec 15, 2011 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely

It’s definitely best to fire a staff before they know for sure that it’s coming, so they don’t mail it in.

JUST KIDDING. Wulff and the prior staff deserves a ton of credit for their hard work on the recruiting trail, including some efforts right up to (and, from what I heard, after) they knew they probably we’re going to be retained.

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by Fractal on Dec 15, 2011 6:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That is, "weren't" going to be retained.

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by Fractal on Dec 15, 2011 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

So I've had this recruiting question in mind ever since Leach was hired, and I'm not clear on how the whole thing works.

Is 85 the magic number of scholarships per school per year, or does it just have to work out for a four year cycle? From Kyle’s posts here, I think we have 20 commits. If Leach’s coaching staff goes out now and maybe finds some better/different guys, can he offer scholarships to all of them if it puts us over the 85? I started reading an article on oversigning the other day and got confused.

by wazzu93 on Dec 15, 2011 6:48 PM PST reply actions  

can you post that article?

because I am like you in that I am don’t understand exactly how the scholarship limits and that other stuff works

The blood of "The Five" cries for justice.

by PullManiac on Dec 15, 2011 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm trying to find it. It was on the NCAAF scrolly thing on the right side of front page.

I didn’t bookmark it because I figured it’d still be there (I just saw it yesterday).

by wazzu93 on Dec 15, 2011 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

Jeff Nusser gives a pretty clear explanation below of how it works.

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by PullManiac on Dec 15, 2011 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I think some kids already on scholarship might transfer

and some of the kids in this class might decommit. Theron West went from being a solid verbal to a “soft verbal” on Scout, and there are some kids with academic issues. I was a little surprised that we started offering more kids with pretty much a full class already, but Leach isn’t Houston Nutt. He wouldn’t be offering these kids if he didn’t have some insight in terms of kids leaving or decommitting.

As it pertains to the magic number of 85, I think it’s really confusing and there’s not one simple answer. Guys can also greyshirt and delay enrollment, and the scholarship won’t count towards the current year. Basically, there’s a lot of loopholes the staff can fiddle with, but unless we see some kids leaving, I don’t really see where these extra spots are coming from. It’ll certainly be interesting.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 15, 2011 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. To add to this,

There are a couple kids from last year’s class coming (assumed) in January (Dockery, Mitchell) that will be counted towards last year’s 25 allowable. Dotson graduating early and enrolling in January would ALSO allow him to be counted towards last year’s 25 (along with anyone else who graduates and enrolls early).

Leach may employ the Kiffen model at USC and try to find a handful of guys who could enroll in January (to count on last year’s docket) and “oversign” that way. Those guys are at a premium though, so who knows.

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by TiltingRight on Dec 15, 2011 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Kiffin model?

Wulff did that last year with a bunch of the Florida guys

by AirRaidCoug on Dec 15, 2011 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The difference being

he didn’t get all his guys in.

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by TiltingRight on Dec 15, 2011 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, Kiffin did it to cram as many guys as he could into the program before he lost scholarships.

Wulff still took a normal sized class of 25 even though he could have taken more with early enrollments.

by Mark Sandritter on Dec 15, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Sort of.

there were 29 commits including Moritz Christ.

4 didn’t make it in due to grades, IIRC.

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by TiltingRight on Dec 15, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow I forgot they took that many.

Maybe because a few didn’t make it in it seemed smaller.

by Mark Sandritter on Dec 15, 2011 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

So then here's the question I have:

(25 scholly’s per year)*(4 years) = 100 scholarship players, and that’s not counting people that redshirt either. So are you just counting on attrition in every class to bring the number down to about 21?

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by Coug999 on Dec 15, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be about right.

You can force attrition as well. Scholarships are year to year (there are changes underway now, but that aside) meaning you can tell a kid buried in the depth chart that you’re not going to renew his scholly. You can also simply say that you don’t see him improving, or don’t see him earning any time and that if he wants to see the field he may want to look elsewhere… while offering to help find him a place to land.

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by TiltingRight on Dec 15, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It makes perfect sense

the NCAA will take away schollies from you if you don’t have enough graduating. But you have to lose players each year to stay under the NCAA limit of 85 schollies.

I heart the NCAA

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by woolybugger on Dec 16, 2011 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

THAI GINGER

Thai Gingers has some awesome thai food, they have some great curry there! Phad thai is good too!

by peija on Dec 15, 2011 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

Phad thai?

The Dane Cook of thai food?

I'm a glass half full kind of guy. My glass just happens to be half full of bourbon. And sitting next to several empty glasses.

by J.J. FeKl on Dec 15, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

haha, pad thai :p

by peija on Dec 15, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

TGB (Thai Ginger Bar) is where we used to go for food

in between Sports Page, My Office, Rico’s and/or Rancho.

by Something Snazzy on Dec 15, 2011 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I preferred Suchada's Thai....

it was right next to the liquor store and had amazing Spicy basil fried rice and panang curry :)

by james_WSU on Dec 15, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You hit all the big ones.

I do love the Emerald for fake Chinese food. It’s like chicken nuggets with sweet and sour sauce on it.

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by Craig Powers on Dec 15, 2011 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The fakiest, goodest chinese food.

I'm a glass half full kind of guy. My glass just happens to be half full of bourbon. And sitting next to several empty glasses.

by J.J. FeKl on Dec 15, 2011 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I vote Golden Teriyaki

New ownership took over after my freshman year (2004) and I love the new place. My buddy and I would get combo’s first thing in the morning then go wait in line at Beasley. Nothing like knocking out some almond chicken with chow mein, fried rice and sweat and sour shrimp while standing on the overpass in 15 degree weather.

by Mark Sandritter on Dec 15, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Football + Chinese Food ??!!

Thumbs up! Would be a great solution for TT fans, and me. :-)

by CougaRrr on Dec 16, 2011 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

They have a new Chinese/Vietnamese place on Main in the old Mexican drive thru place

I at their about two weeks ago and it was good. I ordered a huge bowl of Pho and some pot stickers. I spent about $14 just on myself but it was good. I recommend it next time anyone is in town.

The blood of "The Five" cries for justice.

by PullManiac on Dec 15, 2011 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn...

I was going to open a Vietnamese/asian restaurant in Pullman… Bahn mi sandwiches are amazing :)

by james_WSU on Dec 15, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

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by TiltingRight on Dec 15, 2011 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like this is probably a video on rewind.

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by Coug999 on Dec 15, 2011 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess you're right.

"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks

by Coug999 on Dec 15, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt it

there was some cheesy like substance down there causing her to itch and she is trying to figure out what it is by sniffing it.

The blood of "The Five" cries for justice.

by PullManiac on Dec 15, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Fail. Mariah got you!!!!

The blood of "The Five" cries for justice.

by PullManiac on Dec 15, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

x

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by TiltingRight on Dec 15, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah I concede.

I cannot one up the master of the random internet memes. All Hail King Tilting.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 15, 2011 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

x

"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks

by Coug999 on Dec 15, 2011 10:37 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

.....

If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?

by well you win some and lose others on Dec 15, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Enjoy your rec, sir.

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by TiltingRight on Dec 15, 2011 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

...


How long did it take for you to figure out those were arms not boobs?
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by SoCalCoug on Dec 16, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

There's a new place called Oasis

where Taco Time used to be on Main. Ignore the disconnect you might feel ordering Pan Asian food in a place with cacti and southwest decor and order a bowl of Pho as big as your head. Reminds me of this other place in Seattle and I can say it’s Pho King delicious. They get everything else right, but seem to substitute cilantro with what should be basil. But with basil being like $20 oz right now on the Palouse I guess that is understandable. Yakisoba here also recommended.

I’m also a big fan of Southfork Public House in the mall off Bishop. Excellent service and comfort food and an underappreciated happy hour. Lamb sliders and shoestring style fries with Cougar seasoning, mac & cheese, and an assortment of our regional microbrews. I’m getting hungry.

Just saw PullManiac’s post of 2 minutes ago but adding this anyway.

by wazzu4fun on Dec 15, 2011 9:29 PM PST reply actions  

I really want to try

those two restaurants and make even that place on the golf course on my next visit. Also I liked Loco Grinz occasionally and they opened one in Pullman before I left.

Has anyone tried The Black Cypress? I just looked up some restaurants in Pullman and this place looked like it just opened recently and it has really good ratings.

by james_WSU on Dec 15, 2011 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Also...

as far as asian food goes, Tokyo Seoul was one of my favorites in Pullman. It definitely got more expensive as they got more popular but the food was good! The Korean food is authentic (since the owners are Korean) but they did pretty good at the Japanese food too.

by james_WSU on Dec 15, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Black Cypress is really good

But also really expensive. Probably $35+ per plate.

by HighSchoolQuarterback on Dec 15, 2011 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep!

Black Cypress is good. They are expensive, but being “thrifty” going there for dates… they do have decent dishes under $20.

Also, South Fork is amazing. Get the Bangers & Mash… soooo good. They also have the Cougar everything seasoning on every table = win.

by jackswift on Dec 16, 2011 2:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I ate at this steak place in Moscow called Sangria

It’s pretty fancy (Read: Expensive) but it’s great to impress a date or when your parents are paying… I had a ribeye and my dad had the peppercorn encrusted New York. They were both VERY good. Everything else on the menu looked excellent as well.

Also, Wingers. Sometimes the food is a little stale/cold when it gets out to you, but it’s worth it no matter what.

Back in Pullman I’ll suggest Paradise Creek. Cougar Gold mac and cheese. Enough said.

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by GoCougs on Dec 15, 2011 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

Wingers is pretty good.

I didn’t go there until this year though on Dad’s Weekend. It’s like a less cool Buffalo Wild Wings.

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by Coug999 on Dec 15, 2011 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just surprised...

at how small Kyle’s head is.

by cfred on Dec 15, 2011 9:56 PM PST reply actions  

But in all seriousness...

Why does everybody think Sella’s calzones are super big? They really aren’t even that big!

by cfred on Dec 16, 2011 12:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I initially didn't respond because I thought this was in response to my ego.

Whoops.

But really, I think ‘bigger than my head’ was more in terms of fullness. My head is quite empty, save some random NBA draft information, geography from Sporcle, and Sub Zero’s move set on Mortal Kombat.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 16, 2011 12:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Zips is where you get your milkshakes.

So many topping and so many combos. They are at Colfax and Moscow.

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by well you win some and lose others on Dec 15, 2011 9:58 PM PST reply actions  

uh...

I get my milkshakes at Ferdinands! If not there, I like the chocolate peanut butter shakes at Sharis :)

by james_WSU on Dec 15, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

If you like icecream, Ferdinand's is the place to get some.

Look up the ice cream of the month and grab cougcheese (it is the cheapest at Ferdinand’s).

If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?

by well you win some and lose others on Dec 15, 2011 10:09 PM PST reply actions  

Denzell Dotson is scratching his head

wondering how a blog interview/blog about him turns into a review of Pullman restaraunts and a discussion about Mariah Carey scratching her cleavage. Welcome to WSU Denzell.

The blood of "The Five" cries for justice.

by PullManiac on Dec 15, 2011 10:31 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah on behalf of CougCenter

I’d like to apologize to Denzell and member’s of the Dotson extended family. We’re really nice people, and for the most part, completely not crazy, I promise!

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 15, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He just thinks this is the nerdiest school in the world now.

I'm a glass half full kind of guy. My glass just happens to be half full of bourbon. And sitting next to several empty glasses.

by J.J. FeKl on Dec 15, 2011 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Very bad service, and midiocre food

Such a shame, the building had great potential.

However, I would like to talk up Rancho Viejo for some good Mexican food.

by spencer peaty on Dec 15, 2011 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

My roommate worked there.

He basically said he would never eat there. Of course, this was on 06, so maybe things have changed.

Screw you, Chip Kelly! 'Win the Day' was ours first!

by displacedcoug on Dec 16, 2011 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Valid point.

I never went there, so I got my impression of the place from him. I was also working at Cougar Country at the time.

Screw you, Chip Kelly! 'Win the Day' was ours first!

by displacedcoug on Dec 16, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

The service is alright

But the food is still mediocre. It isn’t as bad as it was when it first opened, but still not worth the money. Go to South Fork instead.

by jackswift on Dec 16, 2011 2:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Fireside is the new Pete's

Literally.

Except they don’t have Wileys.

I miss *REAL* Four Loko

by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 16, 2011 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Which was the only reason to go to Pete's

Nos audietis in somniis
Nos audietis in altum

by Seattle Coug on Dec 16, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously.

I have no idea if they were open on nights other than Wiley Night.

CougCenter In Reid We Trust, Twitter!

by Craig Powers on Dec 16, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a steak there that was pretty good.

Screw you, Chip Kelly! 'Win the Day' was ours first!

by displacedcoug on Dec 16, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't get it?

Screw you, Chip Kelly! 'Win the Day' was ours first!

by displacedcoug on Dec 16, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

He had a steak

Hence he was half correct as to his original statement.

by eosrebel on Dec 16, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah.

Well, I stand by my original statement.

Screw you, Chip Kelly! 'Win the Day' was ours first!

by displacedcoug on Dec 16, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Patties and Local Grindz

Mexican and Hawaiian food in Moscow.

by FijiCoug on Dec 16, 2011 1:03 AM PST reply actions  

Wow! Wow! Wow!

Wanna see this kid plant some DL-men from SC & UCLA like he does those kids in the video?!?!?! Holy Crap!!! The first official full-fledged Pirate Recruit with a bada _ _ attitude is on deck! Get’em his bandana,… and anything else he wants fight with!!!!

by spokanecougfan on Dec 16, 2011 10:40 AM PST reply actions  

Just a question....

is it permissible under ncaa rules for a blogger to contact a possible recruit and ask these types of questions? I understand that it is not permissible for a “fan” to do such. Just wondering.

i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.

by blackbeard on Dec 16, 2011 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

Since I am in no way affiliated with the University

it’s fine. If I worked for WSU in some capacity, it would constitute contact. There’s an open period right now (it ends today or tomorrow), but basically, it’s fine because I’m just some average joe and not a university employee.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 16, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

it IS permissible for fans to talk to recruits. This is essentially what I’m doing. The problem with fans attempting to woo recruits is they don’t understand rules. Do not pay for anything ever. Like, not even McDonalds. If you just talk to the kid, you’re in the clear.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 16, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

That said

Don’t do it. The last thing WSU needs is a bunch of random fans harassing possible recruits.

I miss *REAL* Four Loko

by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 16, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I agree.

But how the thing that kills me is, how is a kid having a twitter account and talking to alums any different than what I’m doing?

Shouldn’t the NCAA ban all prospects twitter accounts if that’s the case?

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 16, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey all! Congrats on your new head coach!

I wanted to chime in here and let you know that I’ve never dipped my toe into talking with prospective student athletes because I might be considered a booster. See definition here, thanks to Notre Dame for the good explanation. Because I never wanted to get school in trouble, I always erred on the side that I am a booster by the mere fact that I promote the athletic programs or I could also fall into the definition of a booster because I have made a financial contribution to my school.

And from the linked site, I didn’t want to violate this:

2. You MAY NOT make recruiting contacts with prospects, their relatives or legal guardians. A prospective student-athlete is a student who has started classes for the ninth grade (7th grade for Men’s Basketball) or above. This prohibition includes written and telephone communications.

And:

Boosters are prohibited from any contact with a recruit, unless a recruit contacts the booster, and even then, the booster is not allowed to discuss recruiting. NCAA rules do not allow comments about possible recruits on an institution’s social media page or a page belonging to someone affiliated with the institution. In addition, these pages cannot feature photos of prospects and messages cannot be sent to recruits using these social media technologies other than through their e-mail function.

I think what Blackbeard is getting at is that it may be a good idea to vet this out a bit with your SID to make sure that you all are in the clear. I’m pretty sure that the SID at Texas Tech wouldn’t have a conversation with me due to some of the things I may have written about how Leach was terminated, so hopefully you all would have better luck.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Dec 16, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

As a CAF member I'm assuming that I am considered a booster. Right?
The NCAA broadly defines a “booster” as an individual, agency, entity or organization who is known by an institution to:

•Have participated in or been a member of an agency that promotes the institution’s intercollegiate athletics program
•Have made financial contributions to the athletics department or a booster organization for the department
•Assisted in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes
•Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution’s athletics program

by -Tag on Dec 16, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I assume that’s the WSU athletics association? If so, then yes, by this definition, which I’m assuming is correct, you are a booster.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Dec 16, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

one would think so.

lets all just be careful please.

i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.

by blackbeard on Dec 16, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the scary part. I go to a dinner for Texas Tech in February where the coaches talk about the recruits after NSD and the tickets are $75, but a portion of that is considered to be a donation (something like $20). So even that makes me a booster.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Dec 16, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Another criterium

From NCAA.org

• Provided a donation in order to obtain season tickets for any sport at the university.

by -Tag on Dec 16, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Here:

“Rules for Boosters Regarding PROSPECTIVE Student-Athletes (High school and junior college students)

A. Permissible Things to do:
- Attend junior or senior high school or junior college athletic events.
- Talk with a prospect on the telephone IF the call is initiated by the prospect.
- Continue contact with a prospect IF you have had an established
relationship (friend, neighbor, godparent) prior to the individual becoming a prospect.
- Contact WSU about outstanding prospects from your local area.
- Contact a prospect about summer job arrangements after the prospect has signed a National Letter of Intent."

Linky. Dotson called me. Also, for the sake of clarification, I haven’t donated to the athletic fund. I’m not sure CougCenter falls in the “promoting the university” category.

I guess since this is all being brought up, I can say this: if you’re a fan of WSU athletics, just do not contact any recruits. Ever.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 16, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

But it still may be a violation because you discussed recruiting. And yes, you’re right, I’ve always thought that you shouldn’t contact recruits in any form or fashion if you might think you fall into the definition of a booster. The NCAA is pretty awesome about punishing schools for minor violations.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Dec 16, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

And I’d also add that the sole purpose of Coug Center, as is Double-T Nation, is to promote the athletic programs. I think that SBN has a recruiting guru, Bud Elliott at Tomahawk Nation, and he might be able to give you a clearer answer.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Dec 16, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I've talked with Bud on numerous occasions.

he’s asked me to send him stuff, along with every other site’s lead recruiting guy. I sent him this piece, and he said this is exactly the type of stuff he’s looking for. I feel like if there were a problem, he would have addressed it already.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 16, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay. Blackbeard had emailed me and asked me my opinion and asked me to add my two cents. Blackbeard (if I may speak for him) is a big fan of Leach (this is an understatement) and doesn’t want to see him or your program get into any sort of trouble. Not trying to cause any trouble or anything like that.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Dec 16, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

No I get it.

I also think that being a member of the media (yay!) allows me to interview him from a journalistic standpoint. Talking to the kid about why he chose School A is different that attempting to persuade a kid deciding between School A and School B. Otherwise, how the hell do Scout and Rivals even exist? Surely every recruiting analyst for every recruiting site has an alma mater, and they talk to way more kids than I do.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 16, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been asking how Scout and Rivals can get around that rule and I’ve never figured it out. I know that the guy that runs the TTU Rivals site and the guys that runs the Scout site are both employed by Texas Tech on the radio broadcast of their games. I have no idea how that’s not a violation.

Go Raiders . . .
Double-T Nation

by Seth C on Dec 16, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Mikey's Gyro's still around? (Over in Moscow)

That was one of my standard Sunday/Recovery trips.

by DemonDes on Dec 16, 2011 11:28 AM PST reply actions  

I went to Jack in the Box on Sunday mornings.

The lines there got a bit nuts, though…

Screw you, Chip Kelly! 'Win the Day' was ours first!

by displacedcoug on Dec 16, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Mikey's!

Had to stop by and get 4 gyros before the ride home today. Amazing, and cheap too.

Also, as said above, Loco Grindz is a great place to eat as well

by Robby The Kid on Dec 16, 2011 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

WHY!!!!!!

why is this conversation even taking place. Do you know the potential negative outcomes that may stem from any of us crossing the lines we may be approaching. If its an ego trip then get real and think about it. NCAA rules may be anything but logical but a bunch of bloggers typically will have no clue as to what is allowable. Why does every university have a fleet of lawyers just to assure compliance. If you feel you are entitled to contact a recruit PLEASE CONTACT WSU COMPLIANCE FIRST. don’t screw it up for WSU potential student athletes fans or others

by coug0105 on Dec 17, 2011 8:58 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

The conversation is taking place because it can.

Not sure why you’re so up in arms. You wouldn’t have even thought about this being a violation had it not been brought up — and then squashed — earlier. As an author for CougCenter, I am considered a media member, therefore have access that normal fans do not. I made a point to triple check this. It isn’t an issue.

by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 17, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

You missed the point

My issue is not with those who have legitimate access. The point is – much of what I am reading between the lines has me concerned. Those that make statements such as I can’t believe $50 makes you a booster are incorrect and they innocently can do as much damage as some of us who have been involved with WSU Athletics for many many years. Yes, I am aware of many of the rules (and deffinately not all) and have been extremely cautious not to cross the line.

by coug0105 on Dec 17, 2011 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

The reply button is your friend.

My comment above was in response to this posted definition of a booster,

•Have made financial contributions to the athletics department or a booster organization for the department

And for the record, I could care less about ever contacting some high school kid about coming to WSU, so not sure how I’m “doing damage”.

by wazzu93 on Dec 17, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What are you reading between the lines?

Because it seems pretty straight forward to me. Nothing was done here that Scout, Rivals, 24-7 or the local paper doesn’t do.

#CougHarmonyOnTwitter #teamnopants

by TiltingRight on Dec 17, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

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