Watch Tommy Spangler, Rumored To Be WSU's Next Defensive Coordinator, In Poinsettia Bowl
by Jeff Nusser on Dec 21, 2011 4:59 PM PST
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PrintIf you've missed streamin' and threadin' football games, you're in luck tonight: Tommy Spangler, the guy who is rumored to be WSU's defensive coordinator under Mike Leach, leads the Louisiana Tech defense in the Poinsettia Bowl against TCU at 5 p.m. PST on ESPN. (Also known as right now.)
Brian covered Spangler's reputation earlier this week:
Spangler makes a ton of sense and would fit the mold of a defensive coordinator pairing with Leach. His defensive philosophy is aptly nicknamed GATA, or Get After Their Ass(es). It's an attack defense that forces turnovers and creates pressure from all angles, which fits what Leach has spelled out almost to a T.
So, if you want your first sneak peek at what you might be getting, the Poinsettia Bowl is your best shot. I know I'll be getting on the DVR while I watch so that I can further inspect it at a later time.
And even if Spangler isn't the guy, I'll go ahead and venture that the exercise with be worth your time because former Leach assistant Sonny Dykes is the Bulldogs' head coach and as we all know, a Leach/Dykes offense is FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN.
So here you go. Game thread away.
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They WERE in the same conference as Hawaii.
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
It really sucks that we have to put up with
Mark May AND Lou Holtths.
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did you watch the pregame?
they did a thing on FG’s. Then the ESPN dude sitting across from the chic (Wendy Nixx?) said…
“You could argue that missed FG’s cost Alabama the SEC AND national championship games”
Umm, WHAT?
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I caught that, too.
The Worldwide Leader, folks.
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
Not even 10mins into the game
And they are already talking about other teams and players. Can you tell they don’t care about this game…?
by WazzuCrew11 on Dec 21, 2011 5:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
But it's Boise State.
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
Yeth. Yeth it ith.
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
they will talk about other teams all night long
promoting paulon weedwhacker doritos dr pepper bowls found only on the duece
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Ha Ha!
That’s right! Sure was nice not hearing CJ on the telecast (although Holtz and May aren’t much better). Made my listening and dining pleasure (sack of hot dogs) much better.
Two more points: 1. Didn’t the turf at the Beef O’Brady’s Bowl look terrible? Know that’s the Tampa Bay Rays’ turf—Geez I’d hate to play on that stuff, as it looks like a knee injury waiting to happen. 2. Wouldn’t it be cool to have Baltimore Raven fans wearing Ravens heads at games chanting “Nevermore! Nevermore!” Sorry, couldn’t resist!
not in Lou Holtz's time
leather helmet reference
drink
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by woolybugger on Dec 21, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"Hunter Lee thought he could play major conference football."
Uh… aren’t we talking about the WAC?
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I know the talk has been about blitzes and whatnot
But watch the defensive line closely. Watch how they stunt, twist, move around … etc.
Also, THIS IS IMPORTANT
Spangler’s defense will just wait for TCU to make a mistake. He’ll sit in quarters all nite and spin vs 2 back # LaTechSports
It’s exactly what he’s doing right now.
It means he's playing four across in the seconday
It’s a very conservative coverage scheme meant to keep everything in front of the defense. So, right now, he’s dropping seven and playing four across the back.
Thus, watch the line and the different twists, because the coverage is very basic right now.
The one thing for me that was super intimidating when learning football
was the verbiage. Once you learn the proper terminology (ie, quarters, nickle, dime, 3 deep, tampa 2, etc) the rest is fairly easy. I’m sure once we officially hire a DC, Brian and Nusser will break down the defense.
Another way to explain what Brian said is this: I play NCAA Football ‘12 on Xbox a lot. When I’m up by a few TDs, I don’t really care about sacks anymore. So I go to 3 deep (bringing in an extra safety and corner backs to replace the linebackers), only rush three passers (the two DEs and the DT), and basically wait for the other team to throw into double coverage. They get underneath stuff, like 3 and 4 yard gains, but they can’t beat me deep. So I dare them to throw, and they do. Interception.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 21, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I need a football for dummies book.
I kept laughing while wading thru those X’s & O’s articles…calling positions Mike and Sam, etc. I’ve never cared to learn football strategy before (thank you Mike Leach for peaking my interest).
To make things easy, coverage is basically how many players are deep.
So quarters equals splitting the deep portion of the field into quarters — four players back. Cover 3 is thirds — three players back. Cover 2 is halving the field with two deep. Cover 1 is one deep safety in the middle of the field. Cover 0 is nobody back — basically straight man.
one of the cool things is the looks
this D brings. TT often had stuff that literally looked like a 3-6-2—- at or near snap- then a chaotic two man overload blitz from one side with 2 LB/S types “sliding” across the middle to maintain an almost cover 3 w/ LB/S types holding about 3 yards deep. Every once on a while the post torches it, but it is very hard to read with all it’s nuances. It’s sort of messy fun…
If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.
by hollyweirdcoug on Dec 21, 2011 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I hear ya
Middle Linebacker = Mike
Strongside Linebacker = Sam
Weakside Linebacker = Will
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 21, 2011 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
But what is the weakside?
On an unrelated note, god I hate Lou Holtshes
by Couginthepink on Dec 21, 2011 8:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
It's not very hard. I figured it out
Like the smart guys said. There aren’t very many terms. Once you know them it’s pretty easy to follow along. In no time you’ll be able to spot a D and what we should be checking down (or not).
WIth MP’s O I could predict a very high percentage of our plays. I always wondered why D Coord’s couldn’t. Execution on O can make a D look a bit lost.
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If black pants me happy guy can figure it out then I.AM.GOLDEN.
by wazzu93 on Dec 21, 2011 6:46 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
I'm a simple man
I’ll take that as a compliment
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I was dead serious when I rec'd it
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F YOU KYLE RANCOURT
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by woolybugger on Dec 21, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
does playing COD and Battlefield help me at all?
what about killing Zombies?
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It will...
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
Ok, I thought they were sitting back, was wondering what the deal was.
I haven’t looked into his scheme a whole lot but I just assumed that GATA meant he was going to be sending 5 guys on every play from all over the field. Seems to be working pretty decently so far (although TCU is killing themselves with penalties.
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catching the ball at the highest point never happens.
The ball is on the way down when it gets to the WR. So stop saying it.
yeah, I don’t really know why that pisses me off, but it does. Maybe it’s just because Mark May is saying it.
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...
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 6:33 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Unfortunately,
This is an example of Tilting Left
Thizz or die.
by mjkleko on Dec 21, 2011 11:24 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
the refs are anti-catholic
lou holtz
It is not the size of the gift that demonstrate support…it’s the action of joining.
Are we all going to be sad if there's no announcement tomorrow morning?
Meaning maybe he isn’t the guy?
I wish they had a feature where you could mute a certain commentator
Lou is driving me nuts, I dont mind may as much but Lou I just cant stand
@korbm13
PF? running into?
Pac 12 refs?
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was it just me
or did DE look like he’d been escorted before and Peterson look a little uncomfortable?
for those who didn’t catch it Vegas dance girls were walking the coaches down the red carpet.
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Yeah I saw.
I’m just gonna wait to post until tomorrow. Try and separate these posts a little. Good news, the kid is big, was teammates with Alex Jackson in HS. Good get.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 21, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
you sent Kyle away
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Yeah I was looking up recruiting stuff.
I’m just legit shocked at these kids we’re getting. It’s like, wait, you mean they didn’t choose us because we were the only FBS offer? Weird.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 21, 2011 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
what kind of beef
do you call a LB with multiple FBS offers?
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by woolybugger on Dec 21, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I lol'd at both of these.
Side note: It is a wonderful feeling seeing commits with lists of schools next to their name that don’t include, or at least entirely consist of, one or more of the following:
Eastern, Montana, Portland St, Sacramento St, UTEP, Rice, San Jose St, New Mexico St, Northern Arizona.
left footed punter
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He's Australian?
I don’t think spin matters when it goes right through your hands. Unless you’re Mark May
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by woolybugger on Dec 21, 2011 7:23 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Who picked out the lead official's hat?
and did he find it in the “Youth” section?
I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.
Lou Holtz took his own daughter to the prom
drink
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Being "forced" to sleep in a treehouse is punishment?
Must be a girl thing….
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and a qb hit
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
Also, THIS IS IMPORTANT
Spangler’s defense will just wait for TCU to make a mistake. He’ll sit in quarters all nite and spin vs 2 back # LaTechSports
It’s exactly what he’s doing right now.
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by woolybugger on Dec 21, 2011 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
reading your posts makes me smarter
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this is a family site
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"I want WACtion tonight!"
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like we just landed another verbal.
LB out of Cali with offers from pretty decent schools.
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4G'd
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
Nice..
I hope we get this guy as a DC…
We’d have a offense that is fun to watch as well as a fun-to-watch defense!
Joe and Lou need that platform Verne Lundquist uses with Danielson
Since we all know he’s about 59 inches tall
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GQ note
Only Tessitore’s suit fits
by Couginthepink on Dec 21, 2011 8:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I'm considering...
going to the BSU v ASU game tomorrow… I wished the Cougs made the Vegas bowl this year, but hey, at least we got Leach (and possibly Spangler) out of it?
Ask Erickson if he's interested in the Idaho job.
After all, he did say it was going to be the last one he had.
I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.
Was that Tyree Toomer in coverage?
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by SpectreFCO on Dec 21, 2011 8:20 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
FLAGREC'D
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty new here. Bad comment? Honest question.
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No, not at all.
It’s kind of a site joke, where it’s a “bad” comment that should earn a rec.
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
'walk of shame' on live tv
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by woolybugger on Dec 21, 2011 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
You talking about the cami
looking like it’s off kilter through the sweater?
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
This is actually encouraged among most men,
so I’m a little confused.
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
At a party, fine. National tv, not so much?
The cami is worse though because it means she threw the sweater on in haste or has been adjusting things.
What happens in the ESPN dressing room
stays in the ESPN dressing room.
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by TiltingRight on Dec 21, 2011 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
see walk of shame post above
It is not the size of the gift that demonstrate support…it’s the action of joining.
Could be worse
We could be looking at Angie Mentink.
I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.
Wendy is like one of Jerry Seinfeld's girlfriends.
The one who looked hot from certain angles and hideous from others.
I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.
She's a two face.
Have to take her to eat in dimly lit restaurants.
by Mark Sandritter on Dec 21, 2011 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
TCU's offense was #9 in the country at 41.7 pts a game. LaTech give up an average of 22.5.
TCU scored 10 below their average. I don’t think it was LaTech’s defense, but more of TCU failing to make plays and penalties. TCU also didn’t play any good defenses this year.
Baylor
Air Force
La-Monroe
Portland St
SMU
SDSU
New Mexico
BYU (decent defense)
Wyo
Boise St
CSU
UNLV
I am not really sure where I stand with Spangler. Maybe if he has more athletes he can run this in the Pac12, but not with our current D-Line. I think our LBs will do well. I am not sure if our current secondary cover one-on-one when he wants to gamble.
CougCenter OG since 9/2/2008
There was very, very little one-on-one coverage in the secondary last night.
by Jeff Nusser on Dec 22, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
I saw some.
but the camera doesn’t give you a whole view of the field which can make it hard. Especially when you don’t want to count all the guys in the screen view.
CougCenter OG since 9/2/2008
Well, when they used four rushers almost exclusively all night
One can assume they were not putting people on islands. And when they did blitz, it seemed like only 5.
TCU's last TD came on a house blitz, basically
Other than that, it was a lot of quarters and the occasional five-man rush
They sure had a lot of different alignments that I am not used to seeing.
I know it is a 4-3, but if felt like I only saw 2 LBs a lot of times. I didn’t have time to study the game but it seemed at times like there were 5 guys on the line and 2 LBs or 4 on the line with 2 LBs and 5 in coverage. I have to watch it again closer. Not sure if I like it or not. Definitely seems like you need the right kind of personnel to run it, but that is true with each defense. It felt like on a few of the play to the outside they left the CBs on an island, but I guess a lot of defenses do especially when blitzing.
CougCenter OG since 9/2/2008
It should be noted TCU's offensive line is very, very good
Just a guess, but I’m thinking Spangler opted not to bring a ton of pressure and instead tried to confuse with line movement while dropping people into coverage. Overall, La Tech seemed like it did well against the run, filling gaps and all that fun stuff. But against the pass, bringing a blitz-heavy gameplan probably would’ve been suicide.
I noticed that they were not as blitz happy as I thought the GATA was suppose to be.
CougCenter OG since 9/2/2008
For three quarters they did.
Other than the two runs for 80 combined yards that got called back.
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by TiltingRight on Dec 22, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Mavbe Spangler will be good at Wazzu
He did hold down the Frogs tonight, at least until the end. BTW, as Spangler’s rumored to go to Wazzu his boss Sonny Dykes is being mentioned as a possible future replacement for Leach’s successor at Texas Tech, Tommy Tuberville. I know-more coaching rumors (or rumours, as in the British spelling).
Because we all know coaches love honoring contracts.
coughGrahamcough
But I’m just being a wise a**. Your right, Dykes ain’t goin nowhere.
Thizz or die.
"Dykes ain't goin nowhere" is the name of (not mine) but someone else's Indigo Girls cover band.
CougCenter OG since 9/2/2008
by SoCalCoug on Dec 22, 2011 7:18 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Dykes isn't going anywhere...
Until he does. He’ll be at La Tech next year, but if they’re good again and Tubbs nosedives in Lubbock, I’d be shocked if Sonny doesn’t head back to revive Texas Tech.
I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.
Sonny's a Tech guy
Dykes graduated from Tech (tho he played baseball, not football). Was an assistant at Tech under Leach AND his dad was Tech’s coach for 13 years. Spike Dykes held the record for wins until Leach broke it in 2009.
And yes, I know...
that Leach didn’t play college football either. He was a RUGBY player at BYU. Doesn’t seem to have hurt his coaching.
Mike Leach was at Southfork last night
Watching this game with a couple buddies.
by WinOrLoseCougsBooze on Dec 22, 2011 1:42 PM PST reply actions
Did he order the Cougar Gold mac n cheese?
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 22, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
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