Looking Back At The Wide Receivers Apple Cup Performance
by Mark Sandritter on Dec 4, 2011 3:27 PM PST
in 2011 WSU Football News
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PrintWait, what is this? A football post not about Mike Leach? While it is true this post doesn't have anything to do with Leach, it does have a lot to do with Marquess Wilson and that is a pretty good consolation prize. This will also be the first of many wide receiver posts in the next couple of weeks. I'm currently compiling data to break down Leach's wide receivers at Texas Tech, what to expect from the WSU receivers next year and Wilson's potential in Leach's offense.
Before we get to all of that, we first have to wrap up the 2011 season. The wide receiver group finished the season on a high note posting their third highest yards per target average of the season. Once again, Wilson led the way catching seven of nine targets. Before the season, I thought Wilson's numbers might actually decline as teams started to gameplan for him more. Clearly I forgot he has super powers.
Player
Targets
Catches
Yards
Drops
1st Downs
YPT
Catch%
Drop%
1st Down%
Isiah Barton
0
0
0
0
0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Bennett Bontemps
0
0
0
0
0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Henry Eaddy
0
0
0
0
0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Jared Karstetter
13
9
82
0
4
6.31
69.23
0.00
30.77
Isiah Myers
0
0
0
0
0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Bobby Ratliff
3
3
38
0
1
12.67
100.00
0.00
33.33
Gino Simone
1
1
32
0
1
32.00
100.00
0.00
100.00
Kristoff Williams
3
2
21
0
1
7.00
66.67
0.00
33.33
Marquess Wilson
9
7
108
0
5
12.00
77.78
0.00
55.56
WR Totals
29
22
281
0
12
9.69
75.86
0.00
41.38
Five receivers were targeted although Simone's catch and run came in garbage time. Karstetter led the way with 13 targets and posted his highest catch rate since the fourth game of the season.
Ratliff continued his season trend of catching practically every pass thrown his way. Three targets, three catches. It was the fifth time this season Ratliff posted a double digit YPT. Wilson was the only receiver with more double digit YPT games, doing it seven times.
Wilson's 77.78 catch rate was the seventh time he topped 70 percent this season. His 55.56 first down percentage was the fifth time this season he's topped 50 percent. Think about those numbers for a second. He catches 70 percent of passes thrown at him and converts them into a first down 50 percent of the time.
Williams and Simone were essentially one catch wonders with 47 of their 53 combined yards coming on two catches. Simone's 32-yard catch came on the final WSU drive and did a very nice job of inflating his season numbers as you will see after the jump.
Player
Targets
Catches
Yards
Drops
1st Downs
YPT
Catch%
Drop%
1st Down%
Isiah Barton
83
49
638
10
27
7.69
59.04
12.05
32.53
Bennett Bontemps
8
3
24
2
2
3.00
37.50
25.00
25.00
Henry Eaddy
10
4
35
1
1
3.50
40.00
10.00
10.00
Jared Karstetter
105
60
700
9
39
6.67
57.14
8.57
37.14
Isiah Myers
13
7
76
0
3
5.85
53.85
0.00
23.08
Bobby Ratliff
41
28
348
1
18
8.49
68.29
2.44
43.90
Gino Simone
9
4
69
1
3
7.67
44.44
11.11
33.33
Kristoff Williams
16
9
134
1
5
8.38
56.25
6.25
31.25
Marquess Wilson
123
82
1388
9
51
11.28
66.67
7.32
41.46
WR Totals
408
246
3412
34
149
8.36
60.29
8.33
36.52
As I mentioned in this post last week, Barton capped his WSU career with a terrific season. His YPT and catch rate numbers are just slightly below NCAA averages, which is one heck of a feat for a junior college transfer who really struggled in his first season.
Karstetter's season is tough to explain, especially his catch rate. Last season, Karstetter caught nearly 66 percent of his targets. Why the almost nine percent decline? I really have no idea. One thing I do know, those of you who are fans of stats and symmetry will love this.
Karstetter from Tuel: 7 targets, 4 catches, 57.14 catch rate
Karstetter from Lobbestael: 77 targets, 44 catches, 57.14 catch rate
Karstetter from Halliday: 21 targets, 12 catches, 57.14 catch rate
Ratliff had an up and down season, but finished as the second most effective receiver behind Wilson. He was targeted at least once in 10 of the 12 games, posting five double digit YPT games. On the downside, he also had a YPT under 4.0 three times. Maybe he should have been given more consistent opportunities, but regardless it was a nice redshirt freshman campaign. I have a feeling we won't be questioning his lack of targets next season, I expect him to be involved early and often playing the role of Robin to Wilson's batman.
Speaking of Wilson, what a fantastic season. I'm working on a couple of posts just about Wilson and what he accomplished this season, but here is an example of how good he was this season. In 2010, only three players posted at least 11.0 YPT and a 66.0 catch rate while being targeted at least 100 times. He played himself into an elite group.
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We always knew Jared Karstetter was consistent.
Here’s the proof
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 4, 2011 3:40 PM PST reply actions
That Karstetter stat with the different QBs is weird.
- I’m actually going to miss Karstetter. He was super frustrating at times this year, but overall, he was one hell of a receiver for the Cougs.
- I’m still a little disappointed that Gino Simone has been an absolute bust. I’d settle for suitable punt returner or something, anything really, at this point. Who knows, maybe he’ll be a good #4 in Leach’s system. I’m not holding my breath, though.
- The depth chart will obviously look much different for next year with all the 4 wide sets, but if you had to project today, what would it be? Something like, Wilson, Ratliff, K. Williams, Myers, Eaddy, D. Williams? I know it’ll be more complex than that, inside/outside guys, but this is the possible pecking order.
- Marquess Wilson is going to be the best WR we’ve ever had, regardless of if he stays for his senior year or not.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 4, 2011 3:45 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
I saw Simone play in HS
And I am not shocked he has turned out to be what he is. I don’t see him as a bust really, just a guy that was always limited by certain things (size, speed, basically anything that would make him truly elite). While Kasen Williams was young during Simone’s senior year, he was still such a force that it helped opened him up. Skyline at the time was just so superior than their opponents in so many ways that I think Simone may have been overvalued. I also see it more as a testament to the rest of the receivers that have passed him up then a complete knock on him.
Kind of surprised he hasn’t gone back and returned punts though, he was pretty good at that in HS and I thought that would translate.
Also wouldn’t rule out Simone emerging in his senior year as the Wes Welker of Leach’s offense, but we’ll see. Doubt he would go for more than a few hundred yards but could have a good year in the new system.
I avoided the "Wes Welker" comparison because it seems like every white WR is just like Welker
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 4, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah its a shame because..
Arkelon Hall was no Mike Vick lol
@korbm13
Whhhat?
You mean Blair Bomber is not the next Wes Welker? Both have catchy names and their first and last names start with the same letter.
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by SoCalCoug on Dec 5, 2011 8:16 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
If he's not the next Wes Welker
can he be the next Eric Morris?
Is Dockery going to fit into the line up to
Or do you think he gets red shirted?
If he still comes that is
@korbm13
Dalen Jones was apparently on an official to Nevada this weekend so they may look for another WR anyway.
by Mark Sandritter on Dec 4, 2011 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
There's another kid I'd rather have decommit
but as long as we get Sewell, all is well with me.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 4, 2011 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
Has there been any word on
who leach will keep from this current recruiting class?
I saw something on cougfan but im not “in” so i couldnt read it
@korbm13
I'm as plugged in as Barry Bolton and the luxury members on Cougfan
and I can’t say for certain yet. So I’d generally take what you hear with a grain of salt. Until he becomes official and names a staff, we won’t know anything. He can’t talk to any kids right now, so a lot are sitting around waiting.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 4, 2011 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Could you explain Sewell to me please?
I don’t follow recruiting super in depth but Wulff took away his offer and according to Scout his only other offers are Idaho and Wyoming…am I missing something with him?
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Believe it was an offer contingent on numbers
If it wasn’t accepted before they got a commit from another at his position, he’d lose it.
He was high on UCLA's list before the uncertainty about Neuheisel.
He’s the only recruit I’ve seen in person, and I really liked him. In a down year in WA, I think he’s the best WR in the state. He’s no Kasen Williams, but he’s a really solid player.
Wulff pulled the offer because it was a “take it now, or it comes off the table” type deal, and Sewell still wanted to take visits. UW was in on him a little bit, and still might be, but he didn’t have a monster Senior year from a statistical standpoint like many thought he would.
He’s the opposite of a lot of the guys we have now. He’s not a burner (although he’s not slow), but he’s not small. Scout has him listed at 6’2, 205, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he were closer to 215 or 220. He’s thick.
I have a friend who is very in tune with college recruiting — a big reason I got into it as well — and he told me last year he thought Sewell would be First Team All Conference by his Junior year regardless of where he goes. Loved the kid. I trust his judgement wholeheartedly. He told me about Kellen Moore. I said he was an idiot. “If he finds the right system, he’ll flourish.” I said he was too small.
So obviously we need to fire me and hire him. But basically, if we got Sewell, he’d become the best WR in this class.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 4, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
Oddly enough
I never understood the hype behind Simone to begin with. He has always been small. He had “hope to be Scott Lunde” written all over him from day one.
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by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 5, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
WOW! "fans of stats and symmetry"
Yes, that is me. Karstetter’s consistency is amazing. You know what you are going to get with him for sure.
Marquess is the big dog and he will continue to be.
I too was looking for more from Gino. I just don’t know what happened.
The Ratliff kid is a redshirt frosh. We have him for 3 more years. The chart has 4 categories and he led 3 out of four with at least 30 targets. If this is any indication of what’s to come, look out for this one, two punch. His drop percentage is double wow.
K. Williams will do better as he is targeted more. He just need others to be more confident in him. I notice at the Apple Cup we started him in Barton’s spot over the other WRs. I’m not sure if we got what we were looking for there.
I think Ratliff will do very well in the air raid.
I liked how he looked after the catch this year. He always seemed to catch the ball and immediately start getting up field. He should be able to produce some YAC in the new offense.
I will always remember the way Karstetter played as a Coug.
He was a bright, consistent spot on a team with a lack of talent. He had my favorite play of the year, nothing flashy or dramatic (MQW-like if you prefer), but on his last TD catch in the Apple Cup, he bumped the defender like he was setting a basketball screen and turned what I originally thought was a pick into a td. Wierd how plays like that stick out in your mind.
MQW on the other hand is a highlight reel by himself.
favorite play: Karstetter, fade in the end zone. Touchdown.
by DemonDes on Dec 4, 2011 8:25 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
about Kars
I’m also a huge admirer of Kars. An amazing match of athletic ability and smarts. I love the guys who can do both, I wish we had more of them.
And about Simone, had high hopes for him but realized that they were mostly unrealistic expectations.
I have to believe that CML didn’t agree to pullman unaware of the talents we have residing in the roster…..
Now I'm assuming
since there’s an agreement in principle, that Leach can contact our recruits, right?
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After the Sr WRs are removed, what then?
The experience is pretty thin. The receiving corps needs to remember how excited they are now. It’s going to be exhausting training sessions.
The Air Raid will spread the ball to seven to nine recievers / backs with frequent substitutions. Each one may get up to sixty passes a day in practice as The Captain sorts through QBs and Targets.
It’s going to be fun.
Has anyone heard anything on Blair Bomber?
I realized he got hurt and was out for the season but I would expect him to get some playing time next year. He may be white. He may be short. But he is the fastest, short, white receiver that I have ever seen in my life. Maybe as a returner he will get some time.
He's running in straight lines and occassionally doing more difficult workouts
And has been for a couple months now. He looks fine, but it a tiny little guy. Who knows how he’ll fit, but his knee should be good to go by spring.
I think when you factor in the guys Kyle mentioned
along with Simone, Bontemps, Galvin, Mason, the possibility of the TEs, Blair Bomber (if healthy), and hopefully Rahmel Dockery. We have guys that should be ready for tons of targets ( Wilson, Ratliff, Williams, Simone, even Galvin). And then plenty of guys who I could see making a contribution with 20-30 catches.
Never visited practice before
but this spring I will have at least 3 or 4 visits. Spokane to Pullman not too bad. Can’t wait to see our future.
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