Mike Leach's Press Conference Shows How Fun This Ride Will Be
For about half an hour, Mike Leach held court in front of an excited audience in the CUB Ballroom. Leach was personable, funny and had the crowd in his hand, but we didn't expect anything less. Washington State went all out, bringing in the band, cheerleaders and even the mascot to generate excitement, and it was clear Leach was enjoying simply holding court in front of a captive audience.
After Dr. Warwick Bayly, filling in for President Elson Floyd, who was under the weather on Tuesday, warmed up the audience with a reminder to celebrate International Talk Like A Pirate Day next year, Bill Moos took the podium to introduce his new coach. Moos hand-picked Leach, saying "I only talked to one man. I only wanted one man." And then there was the money quote.
"I came back to Washington State to go to the Rose Bowl," Moos said near the end of his statement. "That's where we're gonna go."
With the small-talk out of the way, the man of the hour took the podium, opening with a joke. "I know what you're all thinking," Leach said, gesturing to his suit. "Yes, this is exactly how I dress in Key West every day." And with that, he captured an already adoring crowd.
Paying homage to coaches of the past, Leach went out of his way to thank Paul Wulff, Bill Doba, Mike Price, Dennis Erickson and Jim Walden. He wrapped his opening statement with two comments that quickly drew laughs.
"People ask me Why Washington State?," Leach said before hitting his punch-line. "Once I get past thinking in the back of my mind, 'Well that's a stupid question...'" Showing off the wisdom he's learned in his years of coaching, Leach closed with, "I've never been a big opening statement guy. I always find the media asks what they want anyway." Truer words have never been spoken.
Leach got down to business when fielding questions from the media. In fact, he shined, diverging into an array of anecdotes that were both hilarious and apt. At one point, after being asked about the pirate thing, Leach had his arm over his eyes while making mock sword-fighting gesture. At a podium. At an introductory press conference. In a full suit.
He followed the quick venture into sword-fighting with stories of the pirate gear he's received. Pat Knight gave Leach a six-foot tall skeleton, complete with a motion sensor that triggers lights and pirate sounds. He said the cleaning lady would come in at night and frequently set it off. One minute he's in his office in peace and quiet, the next he hears a loud "Ahoy, Matey!" from the next room, followed by the screams of the cleaning lady.
When asked about a five-year plan, Leach said he deals in one-day plans. His plan? To win one game a week. Seems like a pretty solid game-plan to attack. Leach also wants his team to be excited about what it does, and do it well.
"It doesn't matter what you do, be it the butcher, the baker or the candlestick maker," Leach said. "Be excited about what you do."
Leach has already made a hire, bringing on David Emerick as his "chief of staff," he said. Emerick will be involved in organizing the staff, as well as working heavily on the recruiting side.
Speaking of recruiting, Leach will be in Seattle on Tuesday night before heading back to Key West for a few days. He'll return to Pullman this weekend, hopefully with pieces of his staff, and will then begin to tackle recruiting. Your money quote is as follows:
"Going to hit the road hard," Leach said. "Hopefully get some new Cougars."
When asked about whether he'd bolt for another job, Leach said, "I'm excited to be here and excited to stay here." He said he won 29 games over his final three years at Texas Tech and didn't want to leave.
The lesson from Tuesday's press conference? Mike Leach is going to be fun to watch and follow during his time in Pullman. He has stories, a massive personality and is engaging. One minute he's acting like he's sword-fighting, the next he's talking about his theories on coaching and educating young men.
Enjoy the ride.
A few leftover quotes I found funny. Maybe you will too!
"Don't worry Katie, they're not booing me. That's Mooooos" -- Bill Moos is still awesome
Leach to a reporter, way off to the left side of the stage: "Oh, that's where you are. You're out of bounds"
"I'm from Cody, Wyoming, which is practically local by the standards of this part of the country"
His kids were excited about Pullman, specifically the snow. While gesturing out the window, Leach said, "If you can't see the snow, go get your eyes checked"
"When Bill came to town, we agreed to meet and he was gonna go to a hotel. But I find out the day before it's at the top of the island; I live at the bottom of the island. So bright and early in the morning I saddled up on my bike and I peddled four miles. And despite that I guess not too much perspiration and he went ahead and hired me anyway.
Update: Now with 25 minutes of video from the official WSU Cougar Athletics Youtube channel.
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I was there
As well as a couple hundred other students. There were some alumni that were sitting in the middle wearing pirate hats and I found that to be awesome. Place was packed!
by msgp501st on Dec 6, 2011 1:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Down stairs was packed too.
When Leach walked past the students to get to the stairs it sounded like we had just beat Arizona State again.
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 6, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Floyd was lame for not coming
I was hacking all night last. In fact you probably heard me hacking in the background at the press conference, but dammit I made it to the press conference and my other responsibilities today.
I don't know what he's got.
But if it’s what I got? ’Twas all I could do to unload the dishwasher and get up to go to the bathroom yesterday.
I’m not too much better today, but I’m on my desktop, rather than the laptop in bed.
#CougHarmonyOnTwitter #teamnopants
Hope you get feeling better
Of course, I was being sarcastic. I am sure he would have loved to have been their to receive his share of the credit.
Did any other Tech alums or fans cry during this press conference?
I’m really happy for the Cougs. This is going to be great for you guys.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
I'm also happy for you guys
and envious of the excitement. Hang on for the great ride.
Cry no...held them back
What I did have was a great sense of excitement and very proud feeling. The good guys won in this fight. Leach has his career back and to make it even better it’s at a school that already loves him. This couldn’t have worked out better for him or for WSU. Just a great situation all around and nobody coaching college football in America deserves it more than Mike Leach after the last two years. Just so happy for him it’s not even funny.
by TTU '04 on Dec 6, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
We would never have guessed since you hardly visit Cougcenter...
…since ML was hired.
by westsidecougar1 on Dec 6, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I like having y'all here.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
by philkid3 on Dec 6, 2011 4:15 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Thank you!
I’ve enjoyed getting to know a few over here. Look forward to learning more about WSU and following them next year.
Huh???
Sorry for being late on this but I’m not sure if I’m misreading this post…is TTU ‘04 being called out for posting a lot because he’s excited for WSU as a result of the Leach hire?
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
No...I'm just using a little sarcasm...
I enjoy having the TT fans over here.
Sorry it it came off wrong.
by westsidecougar1 on Dec 19, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Had to fight it off
Happy for Mike, happy for Cougs, accepting slowly that he’s not coming back.
Lot of emotions today
"Nothing can bring you peace but the triumph of principles." ~ RW Emerson
by raider realist on Dec 6, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Lots of emotions too
although I haven’t seen the press conference. Like a lot of Tech fans, I’m excited for leach and the Wazzu nation since they’re going to experience what we did for 10 years. Also am sad and wistful at our loss, and angry as hell at our sorry-ass Tech administration that’s doing its best imitation of the crooked bosses of Enron.
by djn on Dec 6, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
I probably wouldn’t have mentioned it had you not asked, but yes, I did find myself emotional and tearing up for several reasons: one, Mike was back in the saddle after the unethical treatment and plotting by Tech Admin.; two, I was sad for Tech’s loss and future, and finally I was happy that I have a place that I can follow and look forward to the kind of football that was so great to watch during the Leach era at Tech.
And at my age, which is old, it is a tad embarrassing to be tearing up about a football. I think the Tech fans would understand.
awesoe emotion flow
to hear the crowd when Mike was introduced……….there are a lot of us displaced raiders wishing we were there
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
I'm glad you brought it up and not me.
I’m very happy for the Cougs, and wish nothing but sucess for them…. but somewhere deep in the dark recesses of my mind I could hear an anguished voice wailing “But that’s OUR pirate!”
Had a couple of tears about half way through ...
It’s been a long road for him and I couldn’t be prouder that he was our coach for 10 years. There is just something about that guy that I really enjoy. had the opportunity to meet him a couple of months ago with my third grade son. He couldn’t have been nicer to us. My son thinks the world of him because of the time he spent with him.
I’m thrilled for him and his family and ya’ll. Looking forward to following WSU in the coming years.
by Arizona Raider on Dec 6, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
Yes sir
I had tears in my eyes…mainly tears of joy for Coach Leach.
by Techsaninutah on Dec 6, 2011 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
Missed the press conference because I was teaching a class.
I was this close to cancelling class, but they are doing their final presentations. I am refreshing my Cougar All-Access page every 5 minutes. I hope the press conference will be posted soon. C’mon Internets: be fast like you were made to be!
Has it been confirmed
That he met with the players? I haven’t heard a lot about their thoughts and opinions.
At the end of press conference, they said players would be available to media.
I suspect there will be a few articles on their reaction tomorrow.
by Mark Sandritter on Dec 6, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
he got into Pullman around 8 and the Press Conf was at noon
i would assume he met with the players somewhere in that timeframe.
Would love to be a fly on the wall there
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 6, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I couldn't agree more
The players seem to be very interested on what he has to say to them, at least the ones that I have talked to.
But I guess that is to be expected.
That room was electric
Everyone was excited from the moment he came in to the Fight Song! Great fun!
My roommate was going to ask Leach a question for me
since I couldn’t make it, but instead I got a phone call from The Captain himself! So I got to ask me question directly. I asked, “How do you think Tuel and the receiving corp fit with your Air Raid offense?”
He kind of chuckled and said, “The receiving corp looks great, I’m confident they will do well, there are some things that need to be moved around, but that’s to be expected.”
I’m in shock, I called my roommate back right after that to make sure I wasn’t pranked, she said it was really him. She was going to ask the question and he said “why doesn’t he just ask me, call him for me”
by JVanWSU on Dec 6, 2011 1:32 PM PST reply actions 44 recs
Hahaha!
He’s actually a really, really cool guy. No BS. He’s a little guarded around the media, but definitely a guy you’d love sitting next to at dinner. You guys are gonna love him…and his coaching staff.
He really seemed at home
Both in Pullman and Seattle, he seemed comfortable fielding questions and was so open.
I’m going to love this era of Cougar Football.
by Aaron Whiteman on Dec 6, 2011 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
That sounds about right.
Just because I'm an artist doesn't mean I don't know my sports. I'll take on ANYONE in Fantasy International Ping Pong!
by Damien Franco on Dec 6, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
That's our Captain !
and no, I cant stop crying. I’m stuck in a pitty party …. soooo happy for Coach Leach and you guys … but feeling sorry for myself and Texas Tech. I feel so selfish.
A friend of mine works at the Texas legislature...
and had printed up a famous football quote which Leach had been known to use from time to time:
You’re either coaching it or allowing it to happen.
My buddy knows that I’m a huge Tech (and Coach Leach) nut, and so he thrusts the piece of paper in front of Mike Leach just hoping he can get it signed. Fifteen minutes later, he’s leaving with the signed paper, and a great story. He said Mike Leach could not have been friendlier about it, despite the fact that he was literally on his way out of town, and that he gave my buddy the entire history of that quote, why Mike Leach uses it, etc. (As I understand it, when he first got to Lubbock back in 2000ish, he had the quote blown up and put on all his assistant coach’s doors. Then he printed, and blew up, the quote even bigger, and put that on top of his own door. Mike Leach is an accountability hound.)
You guys really lucked out.
That is awesome.
Everything I hear about Leach makes me more excited.
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Pretty sure this is the most rec'd comment in CougCenter history.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 6, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
I was the one that got it to 30.
Do I win a prize?
by displacedcoug on Dec 6, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Header is already a URL to the post itself - Can't put a URL there - Use the body
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iMagGxqPEk
"Thinking? You may be giving Tuberville too much credit. That head is only there as an ear support system." TechFirst 12/2/2011
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put you link HERE - In this space. Not the header.
Reply does help
If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?
by well you win some and lose others on Dec 6, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
SO OFTEN PRESS CONFERENCES ARE JUST THAT
Poorly done and a lot of inappropriate questions make up most press conferences. During most press conferences planned (staged) question are asked to assure a specific purpose is accomplished. Some dumb and inappropriate ones were included here as well. Since this was his first at WSU, and there was certainly some nervousness on his part, HE DID GREAT!!!!! Settled down and put the group at ease. Wait until they get here and his kids get into the school system and community. His family will wonder why they haven’t been here forever. Don’t worry; I feel we have a keeper that will want to stay.
i saw on twitter that a member of this community gets to go to the Seattle event tonight.
i hate him.
by BigWood! on Dec 6, 2011 1:57 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
What a jerk
I hate that guy too.
Oh, wait…
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 6, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Gonna need to wear pants for this one, I think.
by Brian Floyd on Dec 6, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sad, but true
Good thing I wore my Crimson Friday attire today….
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 6, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
We expect a full report, by the way.
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by TiltingRight on Dec 6, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
you are going for your job
B-Lot gets to go for fun.
At least I'll be able to find him.
Shouldn’t be hard to spot the guy yelling “WOOOOOO” while waving his pants around his head.
I might be the guy getting dragged out of there
screaming “I’M JOSE CONSECO! I’M JOSE CONSECO!”
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 6, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Don't Tase me, bro!
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
My wrap up.
I still can’t believe this has happened. Today was so engaging. There are not to many people who can make you hang on to every word of what they say. The last person that had me captivated like this was Bill Moos and before that I can’t remember. This is like having Bill Moos as our coach. As I watched the whole thing I started to notice I had a smile from ear to ear and was chuckling. I found myself getting more and more pumped. It was surreal. I love that we won’t be hearing a lot of coachspeak, that gets old. I am assuming Leach will probably go off topic a lot of times and I am all for that, because I love some arbitrariness in a coach. Leach also gave people a lot sound bites that they can hang their hat on. It is so strange to now have two men at WSU who are so polarizing in Moos and Leach.
"Well that's a stupid question" | CougCenter member since 9/2/2008
And then you remembered that the next football season doesn't start for 8 months.
/buzzkill
by Jeff Nusser on Dec 6, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
I know, I thought about that after I wrote it. Ugh.
I guess I will just have to try and get excited about our match up with the Vandals Wednesday.
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Maybe Idaho will increase their attendance by introducing Leach at halftime
by Jeff Nusser on Dec 6, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
They already gave WSU students discounted tickets
The ticket I got at the Cougar Card center says its $15, but I got it for $10
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 6, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Plus a free T-Shirt!
Twitter: @JeffdCollier | Go Cougs!
"People ask me 'why Washington State'... 'Well that's a stupid question...'" - Mike Leach
if you cant wait till september...go to itunes > espn college football> texas vs texas tech
its the best $2 bucks you’ll ever spend and its exactly what you can expect from the offense at wazzu in about 2-3 years… and dont worry, year 1 and year 2 wont suck either.
actually crabtree was extra special.. and normally we didnt run the ball quite that much… and our defense was a lot better than usual… but basically that is textbook leach
by SPACECITYTECHSAN on Dec 6, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
It is Leach's eccentricities
that make him such a character and endearing and it was his repeated ‘come from behind’ victories on the field that helped make him The Captain.
Reality moment
After the euphoria dies down, we’ll talk about the occasional low spots on the roller-coaster ride. Like when going for it on 4th down bites you in the rear. LOL Listen to me. I’m still remembering what it’s like to be spoiled rotten by a football team.
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
Honestly
Right now, I’ll take losing an entertaining game.
I liked Paul Wulff, really I did. But 2008 and 2009 were terrible for the fan, and it was only marginally better in 2011. During his four years, I remember exactly three games where I really enjoyed them. The 2008 Apple Cup, and this year’s games against ASU and Utah.
If I’m entertained during a game and we lose it because we went for it on 4th, that’s great!
by Aaron Whiteman on Dec 6, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
You enjoyed the '08 Apple Cup?
I enjoyed the ending, sure, but I remember that game being just awful until Karstetter’s catch. Mitz’s run was the only other non terrible play I remember.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 6, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
I've blacked out everything except Karstetter's catch and the field goal.
I have no idea what happened other than those moments, but I’m not sure real football was played.
5A State Title game
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 7, 2011 8:04 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
Go Figure. I really enjoyed that game. Both teams were evenly matched, the game was never beyond winning, and the finish was a thrill.
Maybe it was the booze and cold that give me better memories than I should have had.
Certainly, I have much fonder memories of that one than the 51-3 blasting we suffered during the Price era.
by Aaron Whiteman on Dec 6, 2011 10:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That was a great moment in Cougar History.
It was such a treat to be there. Go Cougs!
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
These past two weeks could be numbers 6-1
On the Top Ten Moments in Cougcenter History. Bill Moos should also easily win Coug of the Year (if either of those things existed anymore).
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by Shellin on Dec 6, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
I'm awesome at starting things and
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by Craig Powers on Dec 6, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions 10 recs
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 6, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
I'll say it again...
You Wazzu fans are gonna HAVE A BALL following Leach and his teams. There just ain’t gonna be any dull moments with the Captain Pirate as your leader, so just ENJOY THE RIDE! Yeeeeee-haaawwwwww!
BTW...
where’s Austin? I’d love hear some of her fine wit and banter this fine day!
I feel safe in saying
that she will be back here and often, like a lot of us Tech emigrees.
I'm wondering
if they’ll grant us legal status or cougcenter citizenship status at a certain point or if we’ll always be just “Tech refugees”…
I think making me the Lentil Princess for the parade as a show of good faith would go a long way, don’t y’all?
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
Appreciate you giving us the opportunity
But trust me, you don’t have to worry about a bunch of Texans proving their “mettle”…especially when it comes to football!
All you have to do is look at the last two years under the “leadership” (?) of Tommy Tuberville. Surviving that (through humor & LOTS of alcohol for some!) is the definition of “mettle”…unfortunately…
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
Hey djn!
Dangit if they didn’t make me work my butt of at my job yesterday & today. Looks the same for tomorrow & Friday. Don’t they know what a historic week it is???
But, on Friday I will be wearing a Cougars hoodie to a board meeting of an association I’m a member of that is full of Oregon and Oregon State fans who always give me a hard time about Tech football. I have two words for them: Bring it!! Actually, let’s make it three: Bring it bitches!!
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
I have a new favorite Pac-10 team
It was Utah…boy are those guys boring!
Glad to see Leach back in CFB. Ahoy!
Definitely the most fun I've had in a couple weeks.
Got there 40 minutes before it started and was able to get a seat right next to the aisle where Leach walked in.
I really enjoyed his stories and how personable he was.
One point of clarification, regarding his “If you can’t see the snow” quote, I believe he was pointing to Mt. Moscow, which does, in fact, have snow on it.
"It doesn't matter what you do, be it the butcher, the baker, or the candlestick maker, be excited about what you do." - Coach Mike Leach
Is there going to be a live feed from the Seattle press conference?
It would be great if ROOT Sports covered it live but we know otherwise.
You guys got a hell of a coach.
Wazzu’s going to be fun to watch next season.
by Socrates Johnson on Dec 6, 2011 5:55 PM PST reply actions
My goodness, you Cougs are jubilant!
I can’t tell how much of it is authentic excitement about Leach and how much is just he release of bitter football toxicity that has been bottled up inside your Coug hearts for so long.
Glad to see you guys so pumped
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
This is definitely bigger than built up tension
For as long as any of us can remember we have always been considered the bottom of the PAC. Even when we had our 10 win seasons we were never given much credit and our success never lasted long.
For the first time, we now have an administration that won’t put up with being the bottom of the conference and “make due” with what we have. They are actively going out and making things happen, forcing the rest of the nation to pay attention because we’re making the news.
Though Leach is big news, Moos and Floyd are the engineers making it all happen, and it’s the main reason we’re all so excited.
… But don’t get me wrong, I am stoked for Leach to show Pullman what its been missing!
I love how he didn't dodge the "will you jump ship to greener pastures" question
That one is always awkward and I was nervous how he might answer it (sometimes you just don’t want to ask). But he said exactly what we all had been hoping to hear; he gets his thrills in coaching football, not in making a career of it. From the sounds of it, he will be willing to stay here as long as we allow it. I’m excited for next fall, but I also can’t wait to hear more about the assistants he hires and any recruits he’s able to pick up before February!
A little late
But if you want to watch the Seattle Press conference, King 5 has a stream here.
Twitter: @JeffdCollier | Go Cougs!
"People ask me 'why Washington State'... 'Well that's a stupid question...'" - Mike Leach
Watched the last 30 minutes
or so of his Seattle press conference, and he killed it, just like he did in Pullman. Well done Coach Leach!
by Techsaninutah on Dec 6, 2011 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think some of his repeat joke comments went over as well but he didn't have an adoring crowd waiting to cheer at every opportunity.
I love his burn of the one guy asking about who’ll be on his staff.
He’s so comfortable in front of the mic ( yay). Seems like he’s rambling on and on and just when I think he’s lost his train of thought, he steers right back to the original question.
2 things
Congrats on a great coach
your gonna need a bigger stadium when the pirate gets his men on the field…
35,000 just aint gonna cut the mustard…. nor should it have to!
by SPACECITYTECHSAN on Dec 6, 2011 9:11 PM PST reply actions
Just wait...
until some fan asks him a dating advice question on his coach’s show (look this up in Youtube).
Somebody that was trying to sell me something in the cub today tried to use the sales pitch
“What would Mike Leach do?”
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
That's a stupid question
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 6, 2011 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
John R. Wooden
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 7, 2011 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
This is easy...
He would call a “Mesh” play ‘which seeks to stretch the defense horizontally. The play can be run equally well against man-to-man or zone’
http://www.cougcenter.com/2011/12/5/2612526/mike-leach-airraid-mesh-cougar-sports-weekly
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