HOT COUGAR ACTION: Letters To The Editor Or The Comedy Section?
by Mark Sandritter on Dec 9, 2011 6:01 AM PST
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PrintTypically, I avoid linking to letters to the editor for the same reason I avoid Bleacher Report, they are usually terrible. Then I found this beauty and well, it was just too good not to link to it. In fact, I enjoyed this particular letter to the editor so much, I decided to devote an entire post to breaking it down piece by glorious piece.
Congratulations to Washington State University Athletic Director Bill Moos on his early Christmas present. I hope he is happy, and proud. I disagree with his assessment of football coach Paul Wulff, and his team, as doormats of the league.
When I read the first sentence I thought, great ANOTHER I love Bill Moos piece. I mean, I'm fairly certain we have already flooded the market with those. But then, I read that last sentence and realized this was no fluff piece. No this was something special.
If putting your students' and athletes' best interests above your own is unpopular, then I want to be a doormat. If instilling integrity and respect while stressing academic proficiency above wins and losses is unpopular, then I want to be a doormat.
It's really too bad Halloween is more than 10 months away, this guy already has his costume picked out.
Have you checked Mike Leach's resume? He is a law graduate, he left Texas Tech with ill feelings, and sued them.
That is funny, because I did indeed check Mike Leach's resume and all I saw was this:
Slick Rick, a law graduate, claimed ignorance in a basketball-pool scandal, a very predictable, presidential excuse. I fear a win-at-all-costs attitude is a slippery slope from which nothing good can come. Ask Joe Paterno.
Oh my gosh, Rick Neuheisel and Mike Leach both graduated from law school! Clearly, Leach is going to run some kind of ponzi scheme in Pullman. Also let's just throw Paterno in here as well, even though neither Neuheisel or Paterno relate to Leach in any way possible. David Stern graduated from law school too and he moved the Sonics. Clearly Leach is going to move WSU to another city! What have you done Moos?!
The time and effort he invested into these young people is an investment in their futures. That is what I call "invisible wins" and that is more important than any bowl game. How many Ivy League teams go to bowl games? Enough said.
Invisible wins? BigWood's brain just exploded. Also, the Ivy League is an FCS conference so there is a reason they don't go to bowl games. I'm really disappointed I overlooked all of those invisible wins when I was banging my head against the wall during the last four years.
Remember, first and foremost, to thine own self be true. Good luck, and Go Cougs.
Ah, ending it with a Shakespeare quote, of course he did. Now, I'm no Shakespeare expert, but I would take "to thine own self be true" to mean you act on your own beliefs rather than conforming to others. Isn't that exactly what Moos did? Am I being trolled right now? Did WazzuMadBro write this just to mock us all?
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If the Pullman scene was Mike Leach’s official maiden voyage as the new face of Washington State’s football program, Tuesday night’s event at the Fairmont Hotel in Seattle was simply further confirmation that the Cougars ain’t messin’ around on this one.
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PULLMAN, WA - Washington State University put on a heck of a welcoming celebration for new head football coach, Mike Leach at the Pullman campus.
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Meanwhile, assistant coach Jim Mastro is expected to take a job with Washington State, according to a person in the program who was not authorized to speak publicly on the subject. Mastro, the Bruins' run-game coordinator, was hired away from Nevada in February to massage UCLA's "pistol" offense.
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Wow, but I understand, but wow
I can understand a Coug fan’s reluctance to see a “family” member go and I can certainly see where that might be very hurtful.
But to sling craig james like poo on Leach in the process is just not right. He should be checking his mailbox for a check from Spaeth.
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
Leach has a bigger resume than that
I was initially a little uncomfortable. I am still and likely always will be uncomfortable with the way Wulff was strung along.
That said, we didn’t hire slick Rick. We didn’t hire Erickkson. We didn’t hire any number of coaches that care about winning games first and getting that education second. We hired a winning coach that cares about academics. For college ball, Leach is perfect.
by Aaron Whiteman on Dec 9, 2011 6:42 AM PST reply actions 6 recs
Wulff was not strung along
At this point any time you post, and it’s NOT a picture of black pants, I get confused. - Kyle Rancourt
by woolybugger on Dec 9, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes. He was.
I’ve read here (or heard it in a press conference), but can’t find a link that Bill had decided on Sunday evening that Wulff would not be retained.
On Monday, he let Paul do the normal Monday routine (including the Spokane Club post-season wrap-up). He gave Paul a great opportunity to put his foot in his mouth. Only after all that, did he let Paul know he was gone.
That’s strung along in my book. It is what it is, and we’re better off now, but I still feel a little down about that.
by Aaron Whiteman on Dec 9, 2011 9:01 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I couldn't agree more with your posts above
Wulff should have been let go Sunday afternoon following the AC. The three days of meetings and waiting on a final decision was a stage show. They did all of that only to name a replacement the day after. Moos has done a great thing, but he could have handled the firing part better by just having gotten it over with two days sooner.
No he wasn't
First he was given a three-year contract. He was given the 4th year to make a milestone of a bowl game which unforunately he didn’t. He wasn’t strung along at all. He was given the honor of the Standing Ovation at the Spokane Cougar Club.
Frankly if you make 100,000 per you just had a nice 30 year run in collecting $3 million not that he didn’t work hard for it. Wull is a great Cougar but much like Dick Bennett he built it for the closer — Tony Bennett or Mike Leach.
5 year contract
they cut him loose before the final year of it
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 9, 2011 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
It's Moos' fault Paul put his foot in his mouth?
I think Moos’ mistake was trying to be nice and let PW have a swan song coahces lunch.
That doesn’t mean PW was strung along.
At this point any time you post, and it’s NOT a picture of black pants, I get confused. - Kyle Rancourt
A replacement was offered his job
while Wulff was STILL the coach, and was told they’d meet Monday or Tuesday for a final verdict.
If that’s not being strung along, I don’t know what is.
#CougHarmonyOnTwitter #teamnopants
by TiltingRight on Dec 9, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
This.
+1. Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy with the Leach hire. I’m NOT happy with the way we let Wulff go.
Yeah, I agree it could have been handled better... but you need some perspective
First, it is one day. It’d be so much different if CPW was strung along for a week or two. Look at the JJ fiasco and how long he was strung along for. Sure, PW shouldn’t have been strung along but one day is so incredibly short.
Second, stuff like this happens so much in college football. I feel that the only reason people’s feelings are hurt is due to Cougars wanting to protect their own. If this happened at any other university anywhere, it wouldn’t even be a story.
by Something Snazzy on Dec 9, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
And I agree with you.
Your second paragraph really sums it up. Irrational, yes – but the hurt feelings are still the same. A lot of people (who are happy that Leach was hired) really wanted to see Wulff succeed.
I wonder if its just us “old” Cougs who hang onto that sentiment – all those years as an underdog feeds the “us against the world” attitude.
First, it's not really a story here,
because of how quickly the hire was announced, and who the hire was.
Second, regardless of how prevalent it is at other universities (which it’s not, all you have to do is look at UCLA’s, ASU’s, KU’s, and even the UofA’s coaching searches), it doesn’t make it the right move.
Third, the fact that it was only 1 day doesn’t make it any better.
If the decision was known to Moos Sunday, he should have told him. If he wanted to let him have his day with the boosters (which I understand), he could have still let him, and even let Paul announce it if he so desired. He clearly was willing to risk letting him speak after he WAS let go (which BTW, NO other school does), so why not?
I’m happy with the replacement, and have no ill will towards Moos or anyone else in this. Wulff was hired to do a job and was paid well for it. He was asked to fix the “culture” and recruit better student athletes. Mission accomplished. He was ultimately fired because he wasn’t winning enough, couldn’t generate excitement among fans and donors, and the AD was bleeding money. I get it. I saw it coming. I supported the move. I even support the idea of interviewing Leach when he did, getting an idea of terms, etc. All of it, EXCEPT when Leach was offered the job (while Wulff was still coach).
This is the last post I’m going to make on the subject, because if anyone can’t understand my position or thinks I’m off or lack context, there’s nothing I can do to make it any clearer.
#CougHarmonyOnTwitter #teamnopants
by TiltingRight on Dec 9, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with everything here.
My only other thought would be Moos’ list went 1. Leach 2. Wulff. If Leach had so no, maybe Moos sticks with Wulff.
I have no idea if that is true, but it would at least make a little sense. He decides to offer Leach the job Sunday and does so Monday. If Leach says no, Moos tells Wulff he will return. If Leach says yes, Moos let’s Wulff go.
I doubt this was the case, but who knows.
by Mark Sandritter on Dec 9, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
the list was more like this
1) PW takes us to a bowl game. Retains job. Fans are happy.
2) the above doesn’t happen, time to move on
3) Leach
4) Leach
5) Leach
6) someone else
remember when Moos said Leach was his backup plan? I doubt it was his only backup plan. It was a damn good plan so he would have worked hard to make it happen
At this point any time you post, and it’s NOT a picture of black pants, I get confused. - Kyle Rancourt
This is just fantastic.
I didn’t really have a problem with any of it, but you expressed your concerns legitimately, and it’s something to think about. I think both sides can and should agree that Moos was trying to do what was best for the University, and that it’s probably time to move on. I was one of the people who didn’t like how Wulff handled himself, but there’s no point in bringing it up anymore since it’s over. I just want to move on from all of this and talk about what Mike Leach will focus on next. Renaissance Italy? Water on Mars? Kangaroos?
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2011 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
you know what we need?
A tailgate for the night with cougar football.
PS: Val Kilmer killed the Red Planet.
At this point any time you post, and it’s NOT a picture of black pants, I get confused. - Kyle Rancourt
This dude is just uninformed.
Leach graduates 80% of his players. That is tops for public schools in FBS. Many of his fifth year seniors were in graduate school while playing their last year. He believes in academics and has found a way to get that point across to his players like none other.
As far as the respect and integrity thing:
1) We never saw any of his players in trouble with the law or NCAA. Mike would suspend players left and right for not following team rules. He would also cut a player and revoke his scholarship if that player ever tested positive for drugs.
2) Mike is full of integrity and that was his downfall at Tech. He would not sign a false statement even when pressured by the Chancellor and a couple of BoR regarding the Adam James fiasco. So the Chancellor fired him, which he did not have the authority to do (per Tech policy only the President can), for insubordination after Mike filed an injunction to stay an invalid suspension. (The Chancellor did not follow Tech policy when placing and employee on suspension). The Chancellor told the world that “you just can’t sue your employer” and stay employed. Never mind the fact that the injunction was Leach’s best and most viable recourse.
by Arizona Raider on Dec 9, 2011 7:14 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Ditto, Arizona
I can’t imagine any coach putting more emphasis on academics than Leach did at Tech. Ask Easy Ed Britton.
Thanks, Damian!
“Easy Ed” Britton is the name of the guy who Leach had study at a desk on the 50 yard line in the snow (as described in my post below).
by djn on Dec 9, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
AZ Raider
has it going on! well said.
(notice I’m not f-bombing this site?) I’m in a much happier place.
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
Me too
Be looking for Antiswarm's first fiction novel The Last Pilgrims, due out in November of 2011.
Leach made his players go to class!
Three years ago, one player who was missing class found himself forced to study at a desk that Leach had placed on the 50 yard line at Jones Stadium for 3 hours—in the snow! That player later graduated and his father thanked Coach Leach for getting the point across.
by djn on Dec 9, 2011 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
BTW...
I like the title “Hot Cougar Action.” Sounds kinda kinky, or maybe it’s my twisted mind at work again!
by djn on Dec 9, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions
Obligatory
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 9, 2011 9:07 AM PST up reply actions 6 recs
I'm honored!
But if we gotta have a pic, how ‘bout putting some boobs on it? After all, I’m from the land of “haboobs”—which rhymes with “boobs.”
by djn on Dec 9, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
BOOBS DOES NOT RHYME WITH BOOBS
THEY ARE BOTH HOWEVER EQUALLY AWESOME.
by BigWood! on Dec 9, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
That's OK.
Just having some fun. Life over at the Texas Tech blogs isn’t much fun these days!
by djn on Dec 9, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
And wouldn't you know?
I go back to check things on DTN and a new poster has an avatar with a great pic of….guess what? I asked “Pics please!” Just got it where I didn’t expect it.
But I still think CougCenter is a lot more fun these days. Ya’ll are very patient with all us new, bizarre “cousins” who have come to roost this last week. Thanks!
Please tell me Seth is making him delete that avatar
or I will be convinced that site is sexist
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
.....
If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?
by well you win some and lose others on Dec 9, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
i'll rec anything that has boobs
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
by blackbeard on Dec 9, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It deserves to be rec'd twice for obvious reasons
sadly, can only rec once
I am singing the quiet song...THE QUIET SONG... THE QUIET SONG!!!
Here you go djn...here are some boobs for you...see how I take care of you?
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
by Austin, Tx on Dec 9, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
No, not really, I usually use other words for these two
I was just trying to get djn off boobs, well the kind of boobs he was thinking of!
Game-changer!!
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
Not that kind!
I wouldn’t classify those two as boobs—more like hemorrhoids!
by djn on Dec 9, 2011 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, no confusion there djn!
But dangit, on these predominantly male blogs I never get to see any man candy. Saw lots of half dressed young ladies on DTN who were quite lovely but just don’t do it for me.
I want to see some man candy from time to time!! Is that too much for a girl to ask? Is it?? Huh???
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
No problem.
Anything you ask—you the gal! You sure are fun when you get riled up, and definitely never boring. No wonder you have such an adoring fan club on these boards, and I’m a member. Awwwwwww!
Awww...thanks, djn...
…you’re such a sweetie pie!! One of these days we need to have a meet up of some DTNers either at spring practice, a WSU game or just randomly arrange something in Dallas, Lubbock or wherever.
How much fun would that be?! You in?
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
That'd be fun
I’d probably stick to something in Texas. Is there gonna be a spring practice game out here? Not sure.
Vegas, 9/15/12, WSU vs UNLV
"I’ve established a reputation for integrity. I have maintained those high standards" - Craig James
My thoughts exactly
I think we should start planning now – cheaper airfare, hotels plus we could try to get tickets in the same section.
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
Nah
I’m right there with you djn. Or maybe we both have twisted minds…
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
I always allow my mind to go wherever it wants to
I just don’t post a comment on where it’s going…
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
Ahhh, fracas
this is where imagination comes in to play…
I imagine cougars at a zoo sunning themselves on rocks, enjoying their nap in the warm sun. Then engaging in a fun wrestling match afterwards while their cute furry little cubs watch in excitement.
This is where you were going with it too, right???
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
Oh, Austin!
You’re still the same ’ole sassy gal we all love! Hope you never change. BTW, did you ever get your Wazzu shirt you were talking about?
by djn on Dec 9, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Ha, don't think my sassy ways will ever change!
I got sick yesterday so I had to cancel my trip to Oregon. My friend/co-worker who was also going picked up the package for me and is sending it to Texas.
The guy (Keith) at the Crimson & Gray store in Pullman was SO nice – he left me a message saying he didn’t have the hoodie I wanted in my size after all so he sent two others for me to choose from. He said wouldn’t charge me until I decided if I wanted to keep one. He put in a return envelope with postage for the return AND threw in a free t-shirt for the mix-up – can you believe that??? WOW!!
I have never experienced customer service like that and trust me – I’m a shopper. I’ll definitely be doing my shopping at the Crimson & Gray store from here on out!
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
I have always had good customer service at Crimson & Gray
The Bookie’s customer service isn’ t that bad either.
Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 9, 2011 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
Customer service, yea!
The old Double T shoppe (now Double T Zone) had a manager (Larry Crisler) about ten years ago who was really great like the C&G guy. He REALLY went out of his way to make sure you were treated right. Trust me, I was a devoted customer there until he retired.
I've never heard of throwing a t-shirt in for free
Especially when they weren’t inconveniencing me at all!
I’m a Crimson & Gray girl now – thanks to whoever it was here who made the suggestion!!
Die-hard Texas Tech girl & new Cougar (fan)! Bring it!
This letter to the editor is hilarious...
…but it sounds so familiar. It sounds like maybe a Spaeth troll wrote it. It has their logic fingerprints on it.
Bad Man is lawyer. Leach is lawyer. Leach is Bad Man. Even if Leach isn’t lawyer. Leach is coach. Still, law school = bad mans.
Bad people sue their bosses.
Bad people have ill feelings towards their former bosses.
Don’t you see what is happening here? Richard Nixon went to Law school! Richard Nixon fired the justice department and then got fired by the Congress! He had bad feelings in retirement! Kevin Hagen, that guy who played Doc Baker on Little House on the Prairie… went to LAW SCHOOL! Yep. It’s everywhere people. According to Wikipedia (which is edited by the whole world, so we know the info is good) Kevin Hagen, the kindly old Doc Baker, went to the National Enquirer and claimed that Michael Landon cheated his co-stars out of residuals! He had soooo many ill feelings towards his former boss, that it is obvious that pedofilia was going on somewhere during Little House.
I am glad to have been educated on modern logic. Forget Isaac Watts, I’m now going to write the NEW must have book on logic. Because I never went to Law School. So long as no one ever finds out that I’m still a bit peeved with Burger King for asking me to work that night when I wanted to party so I quit, even though I really didn’t want to. But did I sue them? No.
Thank you,
Antiswarm
Be looking for Antiswarm's first fiction novel The Last Pilgrims, due out in November of 2011.
by antiswarm on Dec 9, 2011 7:36 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
The "we don't eat our own" quote
might be has to be the worst thing Wulff ever contributed to WSU.
It is particularly annoying when it came from the same mouth that trashed Doba and his program for 4 years.
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 9, 2011 7:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
i think that was part 2 of his "cougars hunt and kill" quote
It book-ended his career.
by Blackie1829 on Dec 9, 2011 7:45 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Speaking of book ends
His WSU coaching career began and ended with losses at Qwest/Clink
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 9, 2011 7:56 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Irony - real life is stranger than fiction isn't?
I believe he was 0-4 at that venue with losses to Oklahoma State, Hawaii, Oregon State, and UW.
Mind you, he began his career with a loss at Qwest/Clink to Oklahoma State (OSU) and may have sealed his fate as coach with a loss to Oregon State (OSU) at Qwest/Clink. This is just “trippy.” I’ll bet you that Qwest/Clink is a place CPW wishes he had never seen.
by PullManiac on Dec 9, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
he isn't alone in that
" I’ll bet you that Qwest/Clink is a place CPW wishes he had never seen."
Add me to the list of Cougs with that take.
by Blackie1829 on Dec 9, 2011 4:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
It's a fantastic pro-sports venue
but a bad college venue
Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 9, 2011 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
It's not the venue.
It’s the crowd.
#CougHarmonyOnTwitter #teamnopants
by TiltingRight on Dec 9, 2011 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
The UW crowd was into it at the Clink
and I still thought it wasn’t a great college venue. It’s just too sterile
Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 10, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Agree 100%
That quote bugged me, too. WSU gave Paul Wulff four years of solid support, two more than he probably would have received at any other BCS program in the United States. So now that he has been held accountable for an 80% failure rate on the field WSU is suddenly “eating its own?”
He chose his profession. He accepted the job. He cashed the checks. He had full knowledge of the potential benefits of his chosen career if you win (huge money) as well as the sizeable risks if you lose (you’re fired!). THOSE ARE THE RULES.
And when WSU applied those rules to PW, he chastised them for “eating our own.” It’s almost as lame as his never-ending finger-pointing at Doba for four years. OK Paul, we get it. You were dealt a bad hand…but you sat down at the table, dude.
PS—Anyone heard from Jim Walden recently? He’s suddenly gone all quiet on us. I fully expect/hope he will resign his position on Cougar broadcasting out of solidarity as a way to protest the injustice of canning PW to hiring Leach.
by coug79 on Dec 9, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wulff couldn't have sounded more bitter in that press conference.
Heard the clip a few times, its just ridiculous. The only reason he held that conference was to get a few shots in, not because he was such a great guy willing to stand up to the media. Wulff isn’t going to find this much patience at any other school. He didn’t get it done, go away.
I would LOVE to give Bill Doba a couple frostie ones and hear what he really has to say about the honorable, loyal Paul Wulff.
Outside of that quote, which was unfortunate, I thought he handled himself with grace and class the rest of the time
by Jeff Nusser on Dec 9, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
agreed
and under the circumstances I was pleasantly surprised there was only that one quote.
I really wish people would give Paul a break for that.
At this point any time you post, and it’s NOT a picture of black pants, I get confused. - Kyle Rancourt
If we hadn't listened to four years of excuses
as to why the team wasn’t good enough I would’ve just brushed off the quote. If we hadn’t heard about Bill Doba, the training table, lifting, injuries, academics infractions, drugs….etc.
FWIW when Leach took over Tech they were missing 18 scholarships over 3 years. For some reason I doubt they would’ve listened to a few years of excuses. Ready to move forward!
Unfortunately, that quote came up in at least a dozen articles
by Something Snazzy on Dec 9, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Sure.
Which he’ll have to live with. But for our purposes here, I expect our fans would have listened to the whole press conference and assess accordingly.
+1
I think Wulff did a great job to get us where we are today. But in the end, my support is to Moos. I’m surprised that Wulff had absolutely no idea that he was going to be fired – in the other working world we’re all in, managers that fire clueless subordinates aren’t managing very well. I can take at face value that Moos was torn and Floyd was the one who decided.
When Wulff gets over this, I think he’s going to learn that he needs to think better on his feet when talking to the media and in public. The skill of talking to the media is a “either you have it or you don’t” kind of thing in my view – he really didn’t think through what he said, even when sports media has to have the most predictable questions compared to other things media covers. Ok, maybe Weather is more predictable, but Sports is almost as benign.
The other thing here is that a side of me questions having alumni as coaches. Being an alumnus doesn’t give you a hall pass and it isn’t harsh of the University not to grant it.
At the end of all of this, my bet is that Wulff will enjoy his year off at full pay and will have plenty of opportunities. The one coach I’d somehow like to see stay is Levie, but that looks a bit dim right now.
by TheOriginalCougMan on Dec 9, 2011 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
I would say two years of solid support
When the president wants you fired after two years and the bulk of fans stop coming to games shortly thereafter, I wouldn’t call that solid support.
Moos said himself that the main reason for canning Wulff was to reinvigorate the fan base and increase donor support (quite successful so far!).
I hated that “eating your own” comment as much as the next guy, but try sticking a microphone in front of my face after getting fired and I’m sure I wouldn’t have stopped at that. I’m also speculating if you were to ask Wulff again, now that he has seen who we hired and had some time to reflect, his perspective might be a bit different. Consider if Leach wasn’t locked up by Moos and we were in a similar spot to UCLA or ASU. Things would not be rainbows and unicorns and roughly 1/2 our fan base would hung up on why we fired Wulff only to get another retread.
Moos hiring Leach was HUGE in this regard (keeping our fan base together).
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin.
by LeaveItToWeaver on Dec 9, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It shows that you may write well, but still be a fool
Perhaps the Wulffian knave should have left us with these Shakespearian gems …
Cade:
I thank you, good people—there shall be no money; all shall eat
and drink on my score, and I will apparel them all in one livery,
that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord.
Dick:
The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.
Cade:
Nay, that I mean to do.
—Henry VI
OR
Shylock:
So do I answer you.
The pound of flesh which I demand of him
Is dearly bought. ’Tis mine and I will have it.
—The Merchant of Venice
by NoCalCoug on Dec 9, 2011 7:41 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Wasn't there issues with Wulff
…at Eastern? Don’t get me wrong, I liked the guy a lot and he did a great job here at WSU in regards to grades and keeping kids out of trouble. I seem to remember there being some shady business going on at Eastern around the time he was hired here, but I don’t remember details. All I remember is that Wulff came into WSU with some baggage. I’m not sure why Leach’s situation is much different but apparently it’s enough to make him look like a sleaz and Wulff a saint in this writer’s eyes.
by BeastModeCrimson on Dec 9, 2011 8:14 AM PST reply actions
Wulff had too many assistant coaches at one time, ineligible players practicing
I think those were the two big ones. Said it wasn’t his fault at all, things were just overlooked because Eastern has such a small compliance department.
If I remember correctly he had was suspended for 2-3 fall practices at WSU while Eastern missed the postseason for a year.
Wulff said it wasn't his fault at all?
At the time we sure didn’t know how many times we’d hear that during the next four seasons.
So I apparently don't know how to do a link
Just google “Paul Wulff Eastern NCAA Violations,” Withers had an article on it.
You have to write something in the body, highlight it, and then click the chain link thing
This is the article you’re looking for:
Like wazzu93 said, please please please everyone check the “open in a new tab” box. it’s 100 times easier for everyone.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Am I the only one
That always holds down the “open in new window” modifier (on a Mac, it’s command) when clicking on a link?
I’m writing this now so that if it is uncommon knowledge, holding down command when clicking on a link will open it in a new window (or tab, if thats your thing)
by Aaron Whiteman on Dec 9, 2011 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Well I usually Right Click, Open in New Tab anyways
but for the people that don’t, we should always check that box.
by Kyle Rancourt on Dec 9, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
A little trivia...
Eastern was Texas Tech’s first home game in 2008 (the 11-2 season). They gave us a bit of a game, losing 49-24.
by djn on Dec 9, 2011 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
Wulff was not the coach at EWU then
That was his first year at WSU.
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 9, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions
Okay,
can we stop crapping on Wulff now? Seriously, I’m over it.
#CougHarmonyOnTwitter #teamnopants
by TiltingRight on Dec 9, 2011 8:24 AM PST reply actions 5 recs
That's not how it works!
You have to hate one, so which is it gonna be? Leach or Wulff?
Screw you, Chip Kelly! 'Win the Day' was ours first!
by displacedcoug on Dec 9, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions
this
At this point any time you post, and it’s NOT a picture of black pants, I get confused. - Kyle Rancourt
The Ivy league quote is so perfect.
It shows exactly how little research went into his argument. Sure, finding Leach’s graduation rates may have been a LITTLE more difficult. Not knowing that Harvard is ineligible for bowl games because they are not in the BOWL SUBDIVISION (seriously, it is in the name, dude) shows a lack of knowledge about college football in general.
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by Craig Powers on Dec 9, 2011 8:37 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Lets put our cards on the table
Comparing WSU in anyway to an Ivy League school shows a complete lack of common sense.
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 9, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
probably too cold in Pullman
for ivy anyway.
i'm back bitches.....................deal with it.
by blackbeard on Dec 9, 2011 9:01 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It should be noted
IVY schools opt out of the FCS playoffs. But, hey, we don’t need IVY league to go here. Why don’t we look in our own division to Stanford who has been highly successful the past few seasons. Or Northwestern, who is once again bowl eligible. You can have an academic pedigree and a winning football team. These things are not mutually exclusive.
Anyone like the writer who thinks all we got in Leach is a football coach
Should just read his book. Get the facts, be informed. His coaching career is maybe a little more than half the book.
We got a great one, couldn’t be more excited.
most editors* aren't informed, why would a "letter to the..." be?
*cougcenter editors aren’t most
At this point any time you post, and it’s NOT a picture of black pants, I get confused. - Kyle Rancourt
If fan’s didn’t want this to happen
They would have shown up to home games in larger numbers. Apathy caused the firing of Wulf not Moos.
God, that's so sad about Lew Bush.
What’s with all these guys keeling over at such a young age? That 19 year old kid from Oregon State? Awful.
And speaking of WazzuMadBro, is there any way to permaban that guy from SBN?
He was over at Lookout Landing for hours last night being a complete a**hat.
Got banned from LL now too.
Not sure if that was his first from LL or not. But yes, he was again making a fool of himself last night as well. It’s entertaining, actually.
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by Brett the 49er on Dec 9, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
To warn the Texas Tech people
If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?
by well you win some and lose others on Dec 9, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Can you mark the "open link in new window " box when you post links please?
If you don’t, then it takes you away from this page and getting back here, having to scroll through comments is a pain. Thanks.
by wazzu93 on Dec 9, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I just have this to say about that
“If it’s controversial to have the highest graduation rate in the country and to go to 10 straight bowls and to improve every year and win a bunch of bowl games and not have your players get in trouble and not get NCAA violations, then I’m controversial. I’ll just have to live with it.” – Mike Leach
by standingwave on Dec 9, 2011 10:31 AM PST reply actions 6 recs
So Mike Leach wrote this letter to the editor...
we got trolled. hard.
Cool news out of the Moos chat today.
Looks like we will have crimson endzones next year.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
Also Oregon vs WSU at the Clink set for late September
Per the chat
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 9, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
If Cougar fans do our part..
we won’t rely on UO and OSU fans to fill Century Link. I’d love to see a packed out house vs. a marquee opponent (think Big 10 or SEC) full of those formerly “caged Cougars” Moos has been talking about. Perhaps we can get a home and home with Arkansas or something like USC did and have them pack out the Clink in 2014/2015.
But, I get ahead of myself.
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