WSU FOOTBALL RECRUITING: A Look Back At The 2006 Disaster
The 2006 recruiting class wasn't supposed to turn out this way. It wasn't heavy on the stars, but it promised to be a solid class full of depth. At the time, it was the 45th best class in the nation. If the 2006 recruiting class were a movie, it would be Gigli. This begs the question: who in this class was Ben Affleck?
After the jump, we'll examine this class more thoroughly. Also, big h/t to reader Lyle for e-mailing us with the suggestion. You see, guys? We really do read your e-mails. If they're good, we discuss them over a pint of lager and a meal of the finest meats and cheeses. Onward!
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4 stars |
#18 S |
Mead HS |
Spokane, WA |
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4 stars |
JC WR |
Ventura JC |
Oxnard, CA |
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3 stars |
#65 RB |
Mead HS |
Spokane, WA |
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Grady Maxwell |
3 stars |
NR OL |
Curtis HS |
Tacoma, WA |
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J.T. Diederichs |
3 stars |
#7 RB |
Dixie State College |
St. George, UT |
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3 stars |
#41 WR |
Mission Bay HS |
San Diego, CA |
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3 stars |
#89 RB |
Dobson HS |
Mesa, AZ |
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3 stars |
#52 TE |
Trabuco Hills HS |
Mission Viejo, CA |
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3 stars |
#62 DE |
Los Alamitos HS |
Los Alamitos, CA |
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Keith Parr, Jr. |
3 stars |
NR WR |
Bellevue HS |
Bellevue, WA |
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Derrell Hutsona |
3 stars |
JC RB |
Grossmont College |
El Cajon, CA |
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Finas Rabb |
3 stars |
JC WR |
Santa Ana JC |
Santa Ana , CA |
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B.T. Walker |
3 stars |
JC CB |
College of the Canyons |
Santa Clarita, CA |
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2 stars |
#63 TE |
Tahoma HS |
Maple Valley, WA |
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2 stars |
NR DE |
Dorsey HS |
Los Angeles, CA |
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Asly Jean-Jacques |
2 stars |
NR DE |
Venice HS |
Los Angeles, CA |
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Kerry Maddox |
2 stars |
NR CB |
Tyler HS |
Tyler, TX |
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Chris Bush |
2 stars |
NR OL |
Rogers HS |
Puyallup, WA |
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2 stars |
NR RB |
Longview HS |
Longview, TX |
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Joe Eppelle |
2 stars |
NR OL |
Vancouver Prep |
Vancouver, BC |
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2 stars |
NR OL |
Peninsula HS |
Gig Harbor, WA |
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2 stars |
NR S |
Grover Cleveland HS |
Reseda, CA |
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Greg Walker |
2 stars |
NR WR |
University HS |
Los Angeles, CA |
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Jason Price |
2 stars |
JC TE |
Trinity Valley JC |
Athens, TX |
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Brian Williams |
2 stars |
JC CB |
Long Beach JC |
Long Beach, CA |
NR = Not Ranked at their specific position
JC = Junior College (JC players usually aren't ranked positionally)
The following players left the program due to academics, injury, transfer, etc: Skylar Jessen, Grady Maxwell, J.T. Diederichs, Trevor Mooney, Keith Parr, Jr., Derrell Hutsona, Preston Brooks, Asly Jean-Jacques, Kerry Maddox, Chris Bush, Chris Ivory, Joe Eppelle, Cornorris Atkins, Greg Walker, Jason Price.
The following players only contributed on special teams, or were career back ups: Anthony Houston, Finas Rabb, Marcus Richmond, Toby Turpin, B.T. Walker, Brian Williams.
This means that of the original 25 players signed, only 4 had somewhat meaningful contributions to the team. FOUR! Those players were Andy Mattingly, Micah Hannam, Charles Dillon, and Kevin Kooyman.
- Mattingly is probably the best player from this class. That speaks more to the quality (or lack thereof) of the class than to Mattingly. He certainly had a ton of talent, but his position was never quite clear to the coaching staff. He came in as a safety, but the coaching staff moved him to outside linebacker. When they realized he was a step slow for that, they moved him again; this time, to the defensive line. His one standout game against Arizona State (13 tackles, 4 sacks) kind of made him seem better than he actually was. His best season was as a sophomore, where he totaled 91 tackles, 8 sacks, and 11 tackles for loss. Over the next two years, Mattingly only recorded one more sack. He was also arrested for assault with a frying pan. Seriously. He wasn't drafted, but received an invite to camp with the Green Bay Packers. He is currently out of football, and to my knowledge, doesn't own any frying pans or skillets.
- That Kevin Kooyman was the second best player in this class makes me laugh. Not a "haha this is funny" laugh, but a "haha I need a drink immediately" uncomfortable laugh. For his career, the defensive end racked up a total of 81 tackles, 8 sacks, and 1 interception. These numbers are over the course of five years, as Kooyman injured himself during the 2009 campaign. This Kevin Kooyman, Kevin J. Kooyman, is not to be confused with Kevin P. Kooyman, who played minor league baseball and was born in 1951. In case you mixed the two up in your mind. THAT'S NOT OUR DOUG! Classic mix-up.
- Charles Dillon was a highly rated JC transfer, and was expected to contribute immediately. Overall, however, he failed to impress. While he helped in the return game, he was basically non-existent his entire first year on offense. His senior year, he compiled 407 yards receiving on 37 catches, 3 of which went for TDs. While he was certainly much improved in his final season in Pullman, ultimately, he never really made much of an impact. He went undrafted, but eventually signed as a free agent with the Indianapolis Colts. They cut him due to injuries. He played in the now-defunct Arena League and the Arena League 2 (AF2), before getting signed by the Packers last March. He played throughout their pre-season, but was one of the final cuts in September. Currently, he's back in the AF2 with the Spokane Shock.
- My girlfriend went to Gig Harbor HS, and when she heard Micah Hannam was from her hometown, she got super excited. She then realized he went to Peninsula, her rival HS, and was severely disappointed. "Now I can't root for him because I hate Peninsula," said an extremely disappointed Mrs. Kyle. "Well," I told her, "he's an offensive lineman who is in his fifth year and just got replaced by a true freshman." She responded with, "So ... does that mean he sucks?" She's learning, guys. She's learning. (It's worth mentioning that he was a really good student, and a model human being. It's too bad Scout took the worst picture ever taken and made it his profile pic. Yikes.)
- Book-wise, Trevor Mooney was a smart kid; he actually posted a 4.25 GPA (out of 4.0) in high school. Mooney was with Andy Mattingly during FryingPanGate and was apparently so drunk when the cops arrested him, he vomited while being booked. Washington State University: We get so drunk that we vomit while being arrested for being an accomplice to assault with a frying pan. Ten days after this, Pullman Police drew their weapons on a vehicle Mattingly was driving because the officer stated Mattingly's Nissan Pathfinder "swerved and accelerated towards me". When they saw beer being poured out of the passenger side door, they found Mooney, 19, with two empty beers and an unopened one in his pocket. Wulff gave Mooney an undisclosed punishment, but before it could be carried out, Mooney left the program and transferred to Delaware.
- B.T. Walker basically didn't play at all his first year because he arrived on campus so late (due to academics). He played sparingly his final year in Pullman. Also of note, and probably way more interesting: BT Walker is a breed of dog.
"The BT Walker is created by crossing the purebred Boxer with the purebred Treeing Walker Coonhound. It is considered a hybrid dog, meaning it is not purebred, however the lineage is known. Whereas the term mutt is used when a dog has an unknown lineage."
- Joey Eppelle played decently on the offensive line, but left school early to declare for the draft. Eppelle wound up being the second overall pick, so it seems as though his decision was the right one. Also of note: he left for the CFL, not the NFL. He now plays for the Toronto Argonauts, and enjoys using money that just so happens to be the same color as Monopoly money.
We seriously lost a player to the CFL.
In all seriousness, 2006 was one of the worst recruiting classes Washington State University has ever produced. Speaking with Mark Sandritter on twitter (who you should totally follow, by the way), 25 players over a span of five years combined to give us: zero pass yards, 1,053 rushing yards, 747 receiving yards, 9 TDs, 1,818 return yards, 402 tackles, 5 interceptions, and 23.5 sacks. If Marquess Wilson and Deone Buchanon had been in this class, they'd already be the leading receiver and the second leading tackler.
The roster's lack of upperclassmen forced Paul Wulff to play kids early, when he would have rather redshirted them. Looking back, we can point to 2006 being instrumental in both Bill Doba's firing, and Wulff's abysmal beginning. While I'm certainly not making excuses for Wulff, when you hear people say "the cupboard was bare", it really, really was. I'm extremely happy this class is completely gone, because I never want anyone to mention it ever again. Some programs are built to handle one or two bad recruiting classes. Washington State, however, is not one of them. The 2006 class set the Cougars back a long, long way.
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By the way
if anyone has any questions about players not mentioned, feel free to ask. I didn’t want to make this post 10 pages long.
You will do more for this week?
by well you win some and lose others on Feb 13, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
What do you mean?
Like, more updates on this class?
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
This took a while.
We might look into previous classes, but this was more relevant because the players who stuck around for five years (think RS Seniors) would have just graduated. The other classes would be cool to look at, but are less relevant to the current team.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
What about the 2007 class?
That would be Wulff’s first class, right? The one that he put together in a record 8 days!
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
That class isn't finished.
It’s hard to properly evaluate if it’s still in progress. Guys like Mitz, Justin, Pencer, etc.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess that's my point
and perhaps that is something I can do on my own.
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
Well, basically, 2007 was better, but it wasn't great.
A few linemen that are solid depth (Roxas, Guerra, Pencer, Frietag) and guys like Jeshua Anderson, Logwone Mitz, Aire Justin, Chima Nwachukwu, and Marshall Lobbestael.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
2007 was Doba's last class
The 2008 class was Wulff’s first class.
I thought 2007 sounded wrong, thanks
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
No, it was Doba's last class...
…and Doba should also take a large blame for having very few verbals for the 2008 class when he was let go in ‘DECEMBER’ of 2007.
Wulff’s first class was the ’09 class.
by dertingfactor on Feb 14, 2011 6:34 AM PST up reply actions
If by very few you mean ...
no verbals, at all.
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
Actually he had 3
Including Jared Karstetter.
by B-Lot tailgater on Feb 14, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Who was gift wrapped and hand delivered by his coaches at his high school
http://washingtonstate.scout.com/2/921079.html
What goes up must come down.
Sorry Duck fans
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Feb 14, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
Are you sure all...
would have just graduated
Would some not graduate at all?
I am not suggesting to go around and find these guys.
by well you win some and lose others on Feb 13, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
What I meant was
The players are no longer in the program. They’ve exhausted their eligibility. I can’t look at the 2007 class because we still have a few players playing.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Kyle, love your work and think you are funny,
but I would be careful when talking about the kids above. They are Cougs and stuck thru some bad times. And someday they may end up being your Dr. or ……
I don't think I was particularly harsh on anyone.
Also, I think I have a better chance of getting examined by Dr. Dre than anyone from this class.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
His middle name is Danger.
Don’t forget that!
by well you win some and lose others on Feb 13, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
When you talk about what they did for the Cougar program?
Yes. Ivory did almost nothing for us.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
5.2 ypc and 4.9 ypc, sure.
But 313 yards on 60 carries and 136 yards on 28 carries? So, sure, 5 yards a pop is great, but when you never touch the ball, it doesn’t really mean a whole lot.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Ivory was probably the best player statically in the class.
513 rushing yards, 126 receiving yards, 524 return yards, 4 total touchdowns compared to 215 tackles, 3 ints, 9 sacks. Especially when you consider something like 4.5 of those sacks came in one game.
by Mark Sandritter on Feb 13, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
The fact that we're even discussing
a guy who rushed for 500 yards total in his career as the best player in this class is a testament to how bad said class really was.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutely. Here is the class in all of its statistical glory.

by Mark Sandritter on Feb 13, 2011 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
That may be too small to read, here is a link to a more visible chart.
by Mark Sandritter on Feb 13, 2011 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
Excellent work.
Also, for those wondering, there were name changes:
Keith Rosenberg = Keith Parr, Jr.
Ansley Clevil = Asly Jean-Jacques
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
I think I'm gonna be violently ill.
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Also...
*note: video begins with him getting lit up.
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I really liked what I saw of Finas Rabb in practice
Of course this was before I learned that practice all-stars sometimes fail to make huge contributions on the field/court. (See: Matthews, Chris)
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Not to mention the fact
that he transferred.
by B-Lot tailgater on Feb 14, 2011 7:18 AM PST up reply actions
Chris Ivory Also led this class with amount of days in the training room
Don’t forget Chris was ALWAYS hurt as a Coug when he did play he usually played well…but he might have the worst hamstrings of all time.
I always thought he was immensely talented.
Just could never get over off the field stuff. Too bad, really.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 14, 2011 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
How many years did Ivory play at WSU?
… I remember the first time I saw him play for the Saints, I only had a faint recollection of his presence in the Pac 10.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
He was suspended indefinitely the summer going into his Senior year.
He realized he would never play (since he was never playing anyways) so he transferred to DIII Tiffin University in Ohio. He subsequently rushed for 223 yards the entire year.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 14, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
I read this as Dill Tiffin University.
Which seemed like a cool name.
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by Brian Floyd on Feb 14, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah as soon as I posted
I thought, that doesn’t look like Division 3. Oops.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 14, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
this class invokes names like
Terry Mixon 07 and Arkelon Hall 05
"If anyone epitomized Cougar grit and courage, Jason Gesser did that." - Bob Robertson
Isn't Terry Mixon that (supposedly)the #1 stud JC safety that never played.
I believe he quit right after he arrived on campus. One of my favorite quotes from Bill Doba.
“about one Big Mac from being a linebacker,”
"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson
Simply disappeared...
by well you win some and lose others on Feb 13, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Anybody remember
Randy Estes?
Also the big UW safety recruit Keantu Bankhead, who later transferred here and couldn’t cut it?
Throw in Jamal Atofau and we have a nice track record of high touted safeties who havn’t done crap for us.
Bankhead ended up at CWU
after JC but then tried a hip hop “career”.
Sorry, a little of topic
but today on this site I keep seeing the advertisement “Meet Mature Women.” I think they are getting us mixed up with another Cougar site.
"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson
by SoCalCoug on Feb 13, 2011 5:59 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
zing!
: )
"If anyone epitomized Cougar grit and courage, Jason Gesser did that." - Bob Robertson
by Cougz4Life509 on Feb 13, 2011 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
You remember Cougar Life?
Or the failed KY Jelly Valentine’s Day ad experiment that took over the site…
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I forgot about the KY Jelly incident. Haha.
These advertisers must know CougCenter readers.
"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson
Yesterday there was a Norelco add for a new razor to use everywhere.
And I mean everywhere….
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Sorry about that
It should say “Meat mature women”
by B-Lot tailgater on Feb 14, 2011 7:18 AM PST up reply actions
Anthony Houston
I dunno if you guys know this or not(pretty sure you do) but Anthony Houston was one of the most heavily recruited out of Cali. He had offers from Arizona, Colorado, Miami (FL), Nebraska, K state to name a few. I asked Anthony personally why he chose WSU and he said “we had a tradition” when he was being recruited then he went on to say now we don’t amongst other things. I dunno how such a touted recruited was such a big disappointment.
If i remember correctly...
We were the only school to offer him as a WR. I remember reading an article about him saying that Miami wanted him as a corner but he could be a WR at WSU.
Same reason we landed Billy Newman back in the day, we offered him the chance to play offense.
We should keep them in their promised positions.
by well you win some and lose others on Feb 14, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
79coug
Why is that?
You do what you can to get the kid on campus and give them a shot at their desired position. If they can’t cut it you move them. Billy Newman was one of my favorite all time cougs. If he had been kept at RB he never would have played.
We did keep him at WR.
He never made a dent in the depth chart. He moved to CB in an attempt to play more.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 14, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Great post.
That class really struck out with linemen Programs miss on skill guys every year, it happens and it doesn’t kill you if a RB, WR or TE doesn’t pan out. But when a whole class of lineman doesn’t make much of an impact…that hurts bad.
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So, uh, who wants to talk about this year's class?
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Do you think this last one will be a rough for O and D-line?
One other thought: Andy Mattingly was the only “LB” out of that class. Yikes.
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by Matt Gardner on Feb 13, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know if anything can get as bad as this year.
Loading up on JC linemen makes me nervous. Although, Wulff wants to redshirt as many as he can. Still, I hope we can get some depth, if nothing else.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
That's what I would hope for...
at least some depth. As opposed to the last couple of years when we were an injury away from walk-ons and 250 true freshmen.
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by Matt Gardner on Feb 13, 2011 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly.
I’m not saying this class will be 2006, but I don’t think it’s going to be one we’ll look back on fondly, either.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
Disagree
I think we’ll find this class is very solid. Lots of bodies for the D&O lines and most of the JC’s have 3 to play 2. By ‘12 we’ll have a reliable 3 deep rotation across the D line and a significant size and agility upgrade on the O line. Those are the two things we have lacked the most for the last several years.
Of course, no one really knows.
But I think Kyle is simply (and rightly) pointing out that there are some troubling warning signs with this class.
We actually landed about as many HS linemen
as we have in the past under Wulff. This year however, he bolstered the class with way more JC’s than he has in the past.
Also, Wulff tried to go after way more
linemen this year but just missed on a bunch of them. Some even canceled visits and our best OL recruit decommitted, which I believe caused Wulff to go with his backup plan and scoop up as many JUCOs as he could get.
In defense of
Andy Mattingly, I asked him about “frying pan gate”, myself. Great story, and he didn’t hesitate to clear the air on that one. He even ended it with, “and so you know, those 3 guys are either in a jail or prison, as we speak.”
This was about 2 years ago, he told the tale. I totally give him a pass on that one, but then again, he’s a Coug, I would have given him a pass regardless.
I don't think anyone is holding that against him
Because it’s absolutely hilarious and awesome. The first time I read it I wasn’t even mad. I laughed for a good 30 seconds.
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The other guys grabbed knives, so I don't blame him.
Plus they knocked out his friend’s teeth. I just find it hilarious that he gets arrested for frying pan assault.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
the ideal for this staff
as they have stated many times; is to red shirt freshmen and let them get a year into the program before play. Acclimation to school, weight room and simply being away from mommy are all key in the development. That has been extremely difficult due to the attrition circumstances on our fronts due in some parts to this 2006 set, but also the following two. Eppelle had 2 years in and was developing nicely and bolted, Ayers and Dannaher were lost to concussion- maxwell was thought to be a coming great (Trufants cousin I think)- and his early loss necessitated changes such as Guerra ( a decent DT coming in) moving over to the OL. Toss on the vets lost to this staff like Rowlands (injury) and Ball and Andy Roof (idiocy) right off the bat and the line problems got bad in a hurry. Looking over the ‘05-’07 sets you really see the demise up front.
I think they are just trying to get the proper stagger to the graduation rates by grabbing a handful of juco’s. If the staff really can RS Knight and Forbes and a few others, as they have stated is their preference-that bodes well for the scout team practices too. Last summer/fall new juco, Rankin decimated the OL in the practices i saw. I wondered if it was that he was all world, or the OL was in bad shape. We saw the result in the season.
Just the fact that the incoming juco’s aren’t slated to start and some maybe, really can be RS’d is a sign of growth. Truly- this class of HS linemen shouldn’t have any impact for 2 years minimum in an ideal world. Gradually… it looks like the Cougs are getting back to a decent stagger of vets to rookies on the fronts.
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yeah
I feel like 5 wins will do it. I also think they will get that… provided they remain healthy.
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by hollyweirdcoug on Feb 13, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
He planned on greyshirting in 2007.
I heard he’s petitioning the NCAA for a skyblueshirt in 2011.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Good thing you dont really need heart
Things just got meta
I think the only way to get those is to talk to Reggie on Twitter.
Don’t know why he’d go to the NCAA…
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As I read this
I was struck with tightness in my chest, which moved quickly towards pain. My appendages started to tingle and everything started fading to black. The last thing I can remember thinking was “I bet a drink would help.”
Is this the kind of response I should expect from your pieces Kyle?
Micah
I was a fellow student with Micah back in the day at Peninsula and I feel like I need to save some face for him after this article. He is an outstanding student; 4.0 mechanical engineer major and I would be surprised if he didn’t graduate with honors. He is also massive in stature and that scout photo was pretty much par for the course back in HS. If anything, he started most years and his greatest contribution had to be the “intangibles” he brought to the team. If Doba’s class was a sinking ship, he at least was a life raft; and I’m sure one of the few Wulff was glad to inherit. Just an awesome guy and glad to have a part of the Coug crew.
by IrishCoug on Feb 13, 2011 9:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Like I said, he was a great student and a model human being.
He just didn’t have a lot of God given talent. But I’m not ashamed he’s a Coug or anything. It wasn’t meant to be an attack on him.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 13, 2011 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
Yuck
Sorry but this article left a bad taste in my mouth. No one should have to defend a cougar who started games all four years on the offensive line and put everything he had into the program during that time. Ditto for a lot of the other players for various reasons. Maybe they weren’t the most productive group, but calling them out individually is pretty weak, a lot of what they did for us might not have showed up on the stat sheet, but the ones that did stick around don’t deserve to get thrashed on in any way, shape or form. If you really want to quibble about it, or joke off the criticism, fine, but if you’re going to be posting at this fan-site, you have to take the good with the bad from your readers. It is close enough to make me and other people uncomfortable. And that should be all you need to know.
How would Micah feel if he read this article? That’s what you are doing to not just some random person (bad enough), but to a cougar football player that worked his ass off for four years and held onto a starting spot until the very end, despite everyone telling him he couldn’t do it. Kooyman… he “injured himself”? No, he wasn’t a bumbling doofus who fell down and nicked his knee, he was subjected to the rigors of pac 10 play for 4 straight years, enduring all sorts of pain, injuries, and…
you know what, I’ve said my piece. No disrespect meant, love the work you’re doing, but individual players shouldn’t be thrown under the bus.
by zippo44 on Feb 13, 2011 10:26 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
You're reading too much into it.
I’m sure that Kyle didn’t mean to say that he deliberately injured his own knee. You’re focused on the wording too much instead of the point being made.
And as far as Hannam, I don’t see that as a shot at all. He said something that his girlfriend said. As far as what we had, ya Micah was up there with our best lineman. He said nothing but the facts.
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If you think individual players shouldn't be singled out for criticism
Then you must not visit fan sites much. Either that, or you’re pretty unhappy a lot of the time when you do.
by Jeff Nusser on Feb 13, 2011 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
Completely disagree about Micah Hannam
The guy started 4 years for us and was only replaced because he got banged up down the stretch. I understand the point of the article, but I agree with a few of the other posters – just because many of the guys didn’t pan out doesn’t mean that Micah and a few others should be dragged through the mud. Regardless of how bad a program is, playing (starting) against Pac-10 competition week in and week out is quite an achievement which 98% of us here will never have experienced.
by LeaveItToWeaver on Feb 13, 2011 11:09 PM PST reply actions
So, because a guy tried hard for four years, that means he is above criticism?
Of course Hannam represented our university well. But if that’s all any of us wanted or cared about, this site wouldn’t exist.
by Jeff Nusser on Feb 13, 2011 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, and saying he only got replaced because he was singed up isn't quite accurate
He was splitting reps with Fullington as early as summer camp. Let’s not lionize the guy. He didn’t “suck,” but let’s be honest about the kind of player he was.
by Jeff Nusser on Feb 13, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think anybody is above criticism.
But I completely disagree with a person saying Micah Hannam sucks.
Quote: “Well,” I told her, “he’s an offensive lineman who is in his fifth year and just got replaced by a true freshman.” She responded with, “So … does that mean he sucks?” She’s learning, guys. She’s learning.
Because you guys like intelligent discussion, let me add my two cents for why he didn’t suck.
Under his particular Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator and Offensive line coach, the guy earned the starting RT position as a red-shirt freshman. Behind the 2007 offensive line the Cougar RBs rushed for 1418 yards, averaging 4.8 yds per carry. In addition, Alex Brink threw for 3818 yards and 26 TDs (average of 318 yds per game).
During his time at WSU, he saw 2 different head coaches, 2 different offensive coordinators and 3 different OL coaches. Many “old regime” players get filtered out of a program, so to me it says a lot of his ability/talent to adapt and hold the position for so long.
In addition, Fullington has been pegged/predicted by many to become one of the best OL the Cougs have seen. Many have mentioned him as the best candidate to be Wulff’s next “Michael Roos”. If Micah was having his position taken away from a 3rd year walk-on player then great, criticize away, but I feel to base your “suck meter” on him losing PT to a promising player that most Cougs are raving about is quite unfair to the guy.
I’m not trying to say the guy is the best thing since sliced bread or that he’ll have a career in the league. But if you compare what he achieved on the field to where he was pegged coming in (Non-rated 2 star athlete), I would say he 1) Didn’t suck, and 2) was actually pretty darn good and gave the Cougs more than they expected. A 2-star recruit is typically a depth filler. I would care to believe the guy would have been in the 2-deeps for at least 7 out of 10 Pac-10 schools. To me, that’s far from sucking.
I don’t think it takes anything away from the article to say that the guy was a serviceable OL that the old regime actually got right. It’s still a very disappointing class whether one guy panned out or not.
by LeaveItToWeaver on Feb 14, 2011 12:27 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Very well said.
I didn’t think Kyle meant that to be taken quite so literally, but regardless, this was great.
There was an article (I think on CF.C) where he said every year since his RS Freshman year the coaches have told him they were likely going to give his starting job to some other player for some reason or another, and every week of his playing career EXCEPT ONE, the guy started at his position.
That’s pretty f&cking inspiring. He might not have been an all Pac10 player, but I don’t think any Coug is going to have a problem with Micah.
by TiltingRight on Feb 14, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
At what point did we all realize this class was bound to forever suck?
I think it was the let-down after what we thought was Mattingly’s breakout performance.
I feel like I need to defend myself.
I shouldn’t have to, but enough people have completely misunderstood the point of the post, so I feel the need to make myself clear.
1.) Tongue, meet cheek.
2.) I never said Micah Hannam sucked. I was recalling a conversation with my girlfriend who knew nothing about sports before we started dating, and now she’s figuring things out. I thought it was humorous. If you don’t, then we just don’t have the same type of humor. That’s ok. I specifically stated he was a really good student and a good kid. But if you honestly think he should have been starting all four years and only lost his job due to injury, you weren’t watching the past 4 years.
3.) While I understand the “intangibles” argument (we seem to only ever talk about that, anymore), when people defend a player by saying “but he was a great leader” or “he had a lot of intangibles”, it usually means he sucks. Think of it this way: if a girl isn’t very cute, but is funny, you go with, “but she has a great personality”. Micah Hannam has a great personality.
4.) I never inferred that Kevin Kooyman was a big doofus who injured himself. I merely stated a fact. He got hurt in 2009, but still accumulated stats that year. So his stats are actually over a span of five years, not four.
5.) I didn’t “thrash” any players that stuck around. Mainly because NO ONE FROM THIS CLASS STUCK AROUND. Seriously. Re-read the post, guys. Everyone flunked out or transferred.
I’m just not sure how people’s feathers can get so ruffled when I point out evidence as to why we’ve been terrible the past few years.
Don't worry Kyle
There are plenty of us here who read your article and felt smarter for having done so, and understand the point you were trying to make. No part of the article labels any one player as the proverbial nail in the coffin that would result in the downfall of the program, and is a completely fair criticism of the class. But I wish you would have gone deeper into why things went so wrong.
Were these just not quality kids? Were they a bad fit for WSU? Was the culture so bad that none of the players even gave a damn? I guess this would all be no more than speculation, but it is a question that needs answering, especially if we’re to keep history from repeating itself. Even so, sometimes it is best to just keep it to cold hard facts (i’ve never been a fan of “intangibles”). This is a great article and I look forward to reading more from you in the future. And by the way, we have the same sense of humor, so you know at least one person is laughing at your jokes.
I actually wrote the original rough draft
and realized it was 10 pages long. Literally, 10 pages long. I had to cut out a ton. But to answer your question, not all of the kids were “bad kids”, some people aren’t cut out for academia. Diederichs was a good kid, he was never in trouble with the law or anything, he just couldn’t get his grades in order. Some people were probably wrong place, wrong time (like Mooney), but for the most part, grades just ate everyone up. School isn’t easy, but I just think a lot of the guys never realized how hard college is. I don’t want to lump people together as “dumb” or anything, because that’s certainly not the case. Injuries played a big role, too. I think it was just a perfect storm, to be honest.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 14, 2011 1:19 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think you need to defend yourself.
And I personally understand the overall point of your post. But, I also think it’s OK (and possible) to disagree about a particular element of a post, while agreeing upon the whole.
Our stance on Micah’s performance might differ, but I agree completely that the 2006 class was a disappointment in the sense that it never came close to reaching its anticipated potential.
Kyle, your humor is refreshing. it’s Nuss that’s the boring one ;) I kid, I kid!!
by LeaveItToWeaver on Feb 14, 2011 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
And disagreeing is encouraged.
You backed up your statements with fact (although just like I don’t blame Hannam for last year’s woes offensively, I don’t want to solely credit him for 2007’s success, either) and didn’t resort to name calling. To be honest, if we landed 5 kids like Hannam every year, I’d be thrilled. Guys that are great in school and keep their noses clean. I’m fine if their ceilings are as solid depth and nothing more. The problem with this class was he was a Top 5 player as a guy whose ceiling was solid depth. Not a knock on him as much as a knock on the entire class.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 14, 2011 1:22 AM PST up reply actions
I am the boring one!
The truth is OK. I realized a long time ago that becoming the next Bill Simmons probably wasn’t in the cards …
by Jeff Nusser on Feb 14, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
haha!
Just giving you a hard time! Bill Simmons isn’t out of the question, but why not shoot a little higher and aim for Feinstein?!… :)
by LeaveItToWeaver on Feb 14, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not that arrogant.
Seriously, though, Feinstein is actually my favorite sports author. But man, his know-it-all attitude can be major put-off. However, nobody tells a story like he does.
I think this was a great post to read, I enjoyed it and thank you.
And seriously, for people getting fired up…There is nothing more annoying than people combing over words “trying” to be offended. This was a well thought out piece with good intentions. If it left a bad taste in your mouth, go brush your teeth and read it again from a different perspective!
I love these type of articles personally...
…b/c it reinforces what all of us know and choose to forget.
“It’s not Wulff’s fault we’ve been sucking.”
It would be nice if Wulff was working with ‘average’ classes, but since he’s not, it makes it almost impossible to evaluate how good of a Pac-10 coach he can be.
Until the 04-08 classes aren’t required to start games, us fans unfortunately need to be patient.
to be fair ...
… it is the coaching staff’s responsibility to train and coach-up the players they have. Look what Chizek did with the players he inherited. As you all have pointed out, Sark always had more talent than what is implied by an 0-12 record – the key being that he got it out of them. There are countless examples of coaches inheriting another man’s recruits and doing more with them than the previous regime. You just can’t write off any class that Wulff didn’t recruit and say he has immunity from accountability for getting them competitive.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
I don't think you're appreciating how bad these classes were.
These aren’t classes that are slightly below average. The 2006 class had four guys who were average at best. One of them was a JC, two were okay but injury plagued, and the other an ‘Abe Lodwick’ type player. Only starting b/c the 2nd string isn’t ready.
You can’t judge a coach when he’s working with no talent as upperclassmen.
Chizik is not a comparable situation. He had much better personnell to start, and when you’re at a college with prestige, it’s much easier to get recruits who are ready right off the bat.
I’m not claiming to be pro-Wulff, I just want to de-fang those who think this situation is Wulff’s fault.
by dertingfactor on Feb 14, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
of course Chizek inherited a better situation ...
… but the point is that he got more out of them than his predecessor. You implied that Wulff was above criticism for any player recruited before he arrived. This simply can’t be true. I agree that the cupboard was bare, but he still must be accountable for getting something from the players he inherited.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
You can't criticize a coach for the player he inherited which is what you're implying
I agree that a coach has to work to get the most out of his players and he has been held accountable to an extent because there is the understanding of what the state of the program was.
But what was he supposed to get out of the players he inherited? The majority of the players inherited were better suited as roster depth rather than full time starters in the Pac-10. When they weren’t injured or academically ineligible, they were usually over their heads. What if during Wulff’s first year, the players he inherited were playing at their maximum potential? And its really impossible to know for sure
Also, its not always the case where an incoming coach gets more out of the players he inherited than his predecessor. Auburn was a good team that got better, UW was not an 0-12 team. Personally, I’d rather have a guy that does better with his own guys rather than the ones he inherited. Look at Weis or Willingham at Notre Dame, each won with the previous coaches players and were mediocre after. It remains to be seen what Chizik can do once his players fill the roster and the same goes for Sark.
Although alot of Sark'
What goes up must come down.
Sorry Duck fans
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Feb 14, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
*Although alot of Sark's guys got alot of expierence this year.
What goes up must come down.
Sorry Duck fans
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Feb 14, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Not having enough players has been a big problem with WSU though
The attrition from this class alone is crippling, and I am no Wulff apologist.
by B-Lot tailgater on Feb 14, 2011 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
(Trust us, folks. He is no Wulff apologist.)
by Jeff Nusser on Feb 14, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
What's the opposite of an apologist?
That’s what B-Lot is …
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
The term you are looking for is Awesome
by B-Lot tailgater on Feb 14, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
ha!
"I mean I was like, okay, there you go, you wanna hit me? There you go, one pitch for you. You don't get it? You have no chance." ~ Felix Hernandez
by johnnycougar on Feb 14, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
So a Wulff Awesomist?
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
by HitKing69 on Feb 14, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Those are also two somewhat extreme examples
Auburn was 8-5 with a bowl win before Chizik became coach, and throw in Cam Newton, and its not a complete stretch for Auburn to do what they did. As for UW, the players gave up on Ty so when they got a coach they actually wanted to play for, the turn around was reasonable.
Wulff inherited upperclassmen who mostly weren’t fit starting in the Pac-10. Like Hannam, while he was a good player, he’s not the type of player who want starting for 4 years, but there wasn’t really any other choice. There were also lost scholarships from academic deficiency and cleaning house.
So yes, a coach needs to coach the players he’s given, but you have to look at the players he’s given. As we’ve said before, when Wulff came, the cupboard was pretty bare. It’d be nice to see what Chizik or Sark would have been able to with the group of players Wulff inherited.
Fair point.
But the post put this class under a microscope. You can go back further and look at the attrition and production of the the two previous classes as well, and see that recruiting was a systemic problem with the previous staff.
Regarding Wulff and Co. having the responsibility to “coach them up,” I agree, but (there’s always a “butt” isn’t there?) the program’s issues didn’t end with recruiting, as the new regime had to revamp the strength and conditioning program as well. This meant a whole spate of injuries (67 starts lost to injury in 08, 72 starts lost to injury in 09). It’s hard to “coach them up” when they’re on crutches, or going under the knife, instead of in the game.
by TiltingRight on Feb 14, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
In defense of the Hannam
uproar, I remember when he committed and questioning why we got this guy so early, and no other schools were showing interest. I remember Yarno talking about how smart this kid was and how that translated into what he was going after.
Fast forward to last season, Hannam was recruited to a system, and system that had been removed two Oline coaches ago. The fact that he had no other offers from Pac-10 schools, or the like, says he wasn’t a prototype player, but rather someone that fit a particular need. Once Yarno left, that need was gone. It’s not a knock on Hannam that as a senior he was pulled as a starter, but rather a reflection on how the systems have changed.
All that said, I see a lot of the same in these recruiting classes Wulff has put together. Guys that might fit a specific need, but aren’t prototypical size, speed, ability, etc. It concerns me that we as fans may think we’re recruiting better classes than we really are.
I will say, I’m not a Wulff-guy, so I may have a bias, but that doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
I think the 09 and 10 classes were good.
But obviously, we’re in “small sample size” territory. And as always, development and coaching have a huge affect.
This class should have some solid contributors (Mayes, Monroe, Davis come to mind) and could have a couple of bona fide stars (Sua, Dockery, Eaddy). A couple of late steals could be TE Simmons (who played as a WR at 6-5 230, and outruns a lot of the defensive backs he plays against if you watch his highlights) and OL Alex Mitchell (who was being recruited by USC, Oregon and UW before his grades scared them off).
But overall, I’m underwhelmed, for sure. Only time will tell. The bad thing about JCs is that if they’re any good, by the time they really “get it,” you only get about a year out of them. The good thing is if they aren’t any good, you can replace them in 2 or 3 years, instead of 4 or 5.
by TiltingRight on Feb 14, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Lets not forget about Mason...
I know he is a little undersized, but he is fast, and if you watch his senior highlights film, he displays alot of good qualities for a RB. 1) even though he is fast, he is patient and does not just blow by his blockers like little scat backs have a habbit of doing. 2) He displays natural vision and good cut ability to go to the open part of the feild. 3) Even though it was high school, not college, he was not afraid to “fininsh” the run with contact if that was the best way to go, and he did not seem to run with the ball all over the place.
Running backs
are tough to project. Winston and Burns looked good a couple years ago. Burns was so good they tried to switch him to linebacker. And while I don’t know how much of it is due to the line vs. his abilities Winston doesn’t look like a feature back. So given that, I’m not going to project Mason as the next Darren Sproles.
by TiltingRight on Feb 14, 2011 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
agree with Kyle
I think your assessment was very fair. We aren’t playing D III football, this is the Pac12, and players and coaches need to be accountable. I get it that Wulff took over a team with little talent. I agree. Yet it’s the job of a coach to maximize the talent he has. Every team has some Pac12 talent. Look at the job Paul Rhodes has done at Iowa State. They have always been at the bottom in terms of Big12 talent, yet they had a terrific year and knocked off several big shots.
i thought that when Wulff was hired, the nightmare of the Doba years was over. I thought we were ready to win some football games. I couldn’t have been more wrong.
-If you look at College football news (CFN) rankings of the pac12 recruiting classes, we are about 8th, with Arizona, ASU, UCLA, and Utal below us. i am ok with that. Even thouggh we had some last-minute defections, I think the coaches did the best they could, and have been working the recruiting trail as hard as they can. What more can we ask??
I welcme the objective assesment of the WSU team. We are with the big boys. It’s time to win some football games. Go Cougs!!!
Just curious about this statement here:
“Look at the job Paul Rhodes has done at Iowa State. They have always been at the bottom in terms of Big12 talent, yet they had a terrific year and knocked off several big shots.”
How much did they rely on under classmen vs upper? A less talented team w/ more experience can be competitive. A less talented team w/ less experience, well… let’s just say that we’re not talking very even odds here.
by All Cougar all the time on Feb 15, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
What ever happened to Skylar Jessen?
I don't hate many things, but i do hate Boise State.
by spokanistan22yuh on Feb 14, 2011 7:23 PM PST reply actions
He tore his ACL his SR year of HS
then he tore it again during his first spring practice. He didn’t get surgery, instead opting for “natural healing”. It never healed.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 14, 2011 9:54 PM PST up reply actions

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