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What's A Great Community Member Look Like?

Starting with this feedback thread, we've had a lot of conversations about how to make CougCenter a better community. We continued the discussion with this piece, trying to give you some insight into the authors' point of view.

Of particular debate has been our use of exclusionary tactics (i.e. "ban hammer") to hold commenters to our Community Guidelines, something I've been thinking a lot about over the past couple of weeks.

One of the best things I learned in grad school was that the most effective teachers have only a handful of rules, and they enforce those rules vigorously. And most of the time, the "rules" aren't really rules at all -- more often, they're sort of guiding principles such as "respect others." Teachers who have a million rules unintentionally create an adversarial environment in which they often expend more energy enforcing their rules than actually educating.

Beyond that, rules beget loopholes, which beget more rules, which beget more loopholes ... and if you doubt this, just take a gander at any bureaucratic institution's policies and regulations. (Hello, NCAA.)

So, the irony was not lost on me when I realized last week that we at CougCenter were heading down that very path. Community Guidelines? That's not so bad. Commenting Guidelines? OK. Tired Memes? Now we're starting to push it. Where does it end? 

Beyond that, we can't expect every person who comes to CougCenter and wants to participate in the community to read all of that stuff before participating. You're not buying a house. It makes us authors feel better to have it documented, like a warm security blanket we can grab when things get rough, but the reality is that it's obviously not making this a better community.

In fact, it could easily be argued that the layers of rules we're creating have made things worse. Instead of solving a problem, we've created an adversarial relationship between readers and authors. Some of you have taken to calling us authors mods, which, quite frankly, is a term I hate. We want to be community members with you; we don't want to be the cop you're worried about running afoul of -- a sentiment we've seen expressed multiple times now which, quite frankly, disappoints me. Moderators enforce rules. I don't want to be a moderator, and neither do any of the other authors. 

So, I want to turn this discussion on its head. And I want your help to do it. In comments section, please answer this question:

What does a great community member look like?

Since commenting has been the main source of consternation for us, a couple of guiding questions for you to think about could be these:

  • What are the characteristics of great comments?
  • How does a great community member respond to other community members?

But the question really is as open ended as it sounds. If you have a different direction you want to go, please feel free to do that. And if you like a particular response, please use the "rec" button liberally to bring it to our attention. I'll then go through this thread and the feedback thread and put together something concise that everyone can abide by here at the site. My hope is to create something to inspire people to be "great."

Thanks in advance for your help.

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I said it in the "I hate CougCenter" thread

People need to do more listening than talking. Try reading everything before making ignorant comments. I know that people want to be heard, but I am tired of all the mental masterbation and bullshit comments that have started littering this place. It hurts me to say this but I don’t like this place much anymore. I read the content of the authors, and a select few of the members, but as a whole the average IQ around here has dropped. I know it sounds negative but in my opinion a good commenter these days is someone who is willing to just shut the hell up.

I read the same crap over and over and over again. It’s crap that doesn’t need to be reviewed. The fact that we are still having this convo pisses me off. We had a very constructive piece on this and yet commenters are still banging on the same stupid issues. This community seems to be more like couples counseling than Cougar sports these days. Can we just get over it? Please!

Also in the shut the hell up catagory is ignorant comments. Don’t talk just to hear yourself talk. If you don’t have an informed, well thought out point to make, then don’t make a comment. Because someone smarter than you is/has made your point in a more compelling way. Think before you speak, please, because drudging through a bunch of crap to try and find nuggets of info that are worth reading becomes tiresome.

All in all I would just ask that people take the time to read. Inform youselves before you open your mouth. If you feel the need to vommit verbally, do it in a diary or find a “message board.” This place used to have a standard, now it’s become one of the most disappointing parts of my day.

To the authors I have nothing but repsect. To the OG’s around here, much love. To the rest of you I’ll say this; If you don’t like what I’ve said I really don’t give a damn. I’m basically one foot out the door because this place has been over run by a bunch of hacks that dribble poop out of their mouths when they should be listening to some of the smarter people that comment here. There are many that bring a lot of great things to this site, and they know who they are. If you are not sure if you are on of those people then you’re probably a prime candidate to shut the hell up and listen.

by Jo-Jo on Feb 21, 2011 7:39 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

I kind of agree with that

Except you broke two things I look for.

1. No swearing. Especially outside of gamethreads.
2. Be respectful of other members, even if you don’t like them. If somebody is out of line and needs to be put in their place one of the mods will do it.

Writer: CougCenter Twitterer: @GradyClapp

by Grady Clapp on Feb 22, 2011 11:11 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

AAHHH, you said the Secret Word!

"I mean I was like, okay, there you go, you wanna hit me? There you go, one pitch for you. You don't get it? You have no chance." ~ Felix Hernandez

by johnnycougar on Feb 22, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Clarification:

Are (hell) and (crap) considered swearwords here?

Cougcenter OG

by J.J. FeKl on Feb 22, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think so.

But since we’re on the topic of what makes a great comment, my personal stance is that finding words to express yourself other than the four-letter variety makes you sound smarter, and therefore would make for a better comment.

by Jeff Nusser on Feb 22, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Post with some empathy perhaps?

Coming on here and ranting about rants is a paradox. Sorry you feel as though the posters aren’t as good as ‘the old days’, but claiming to praise the authors while complaining that they are ‘banging on the same stupid issues’ is a paradox. You came on here to complain about people vomiting all over while you vomited all over them… that is a paradox.

Not everyone will be knowledgable- not everyone will know the difference between a poorly executed hedge on the hardcourt and a poorly trimmed hedge in the court yard… but lecturing them and bitching at them for that lack of knowledge serves nothing and no one.they just want to Go Cougs with fellow Cougs… I say we let them.

This is a great site for information about a shared passion- some just come here because they root. Some come because they feel they can lend expertise, some come just to vent. It is a social forum for discourse… the point of Nusser’s attempts is to try to make it as pleasant and non confrontational as possible. If you are not sure where you are in this aspect of the conversation… perhaps you are a prime candidate to read and learn – not shut up mind you- or leave- just maybe read and learn. Nuss and the fine authors of this site attempt to steer this Coug ship to smoother waters for we readers, so as to be better able to moderate the ‘dribble poop’ that you describe. If you don’t feel you have anything to lend to the current discussion… don’t lend it. Empathy is a great tool— I enjoy your posts most of the time Jo-Jo- losing you would be a loss to the site… but calm down a notch man… this is a good faith effort by Nuss to avoid making folks feel unwanted and uncomfortable— just not sure how that is at all a bad thing.

If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.

by hollyweirdcoug on Feb 21, 2011 9:23 PM PST reply actions  

Let's not jump on Jo-Jo tooooo much

Yes, the way he said it maybe wasn’t as delicate as it could have been, but the question remains: Should a great community member perhaps observe before commenting? Should a great community member be self-aware enough to know when a topic is a little over their heads and simply try to get smarter before jumping in?

by Jeff Nusser on Feb 21, 2011 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, they should.

Lord knows I do it all the time; there’ll be a topic I don’t feel well versed enough in to bring anything good to the table, or there’ll be one where I know anything I have to say has already been said, often times better to boot.

Cougcenter OG

by J.J. FeKl on Feb 22, 2011 12:51 AM PST up reply actions  

What he said was arrogant and self absorbed

A good community member does not lash out at others simply because he/she deems themselves smarter than another member.

by B-Lot tailgater on Feb 22, 2011 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Further

It is unrealistic to expect new posters not to arrive, and as such, it is unrealistic to expect them to read the hundreds of comment threads prior to their arrival to make sure something they want to discuss has not been talked about already.

Nature of the beast.

by B-Lot tailgater on Feb 22, 2011 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe that is the reason there should be a probationary stage.

After signing up you have to wait a couple weeks or month and read to get a feeling of the site. I know there is other SB Nation blogs that do this.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Feb 22, 2011 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the idea SCC

But a month is a looonng time on the internet. Most prospective members would either balk at waiting a month or forget/lose interest in the interim. I’d say 3 days to a week. As a bonus it would probably eliminate a lot of the spam bots as well.

Cougcenter OG

by J.J. FeKl on Feb 22, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

You are right

My comment was “what not to do” rather than “what should you do” (my opinion. of course)

by B-Lot tailgater on Feb 22, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

A good community member

Should help educate in a polite/professional/friendly manner what the guidelines and posting expectations are around here.

Good:

Be respectful of others:

Be honest
Post information that is appropriate and in context with the Cougs
Use good judgment

by B-Lot tailgater on Feb 22, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

A coug is...

trustworthy
loyal
helpful
friendly
courteous
kind
obedient
thrifty
brave
clean
and
reverent

by well you win some and lose others on Feb 22, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it not just as arrogant and self absorbed

to waltz right into another community and run your mouth of with no respect for the culture or guidelines therein? I think it is. And you are just as guilty as I am – I didn’t single anyone out with disrespect the way you just did. As for what you think a good community member doesn’t do; well, I’m not entered into any good community member contests (as it was obviously a comment directed right at me) so it really doesn’t matter to me what you think.

by Jo-Jo on Feb 22, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

My empathy account ran out a couple weeks ago.

I have been empathetic with people. This is not something I’ve continually done. But the fact that we are still having this discussion proves my point. I have read comments by people that were a part of the “I Hate CougCenter” discussion, still doing the same things that started this mess. That is where I feel the need to draw the line. I’m sorry, but his is absolutely rediculous.

Don’t get it twisted, either, I never attacked the authors in that comment. Read it again. It’s all about the members. Yeah, I wasn’t nice – but being nice hasn’t changed anything. Maybe you’re just a better person than me. I don’t care. But isn’t it also a paradox to criticize how I criticize? Or maybe it’s just plain hypocritical. You preach at me for not accepting others opinions and in the same breath condemn me for voicing mine. Truth is that I know for a fact that I’m not the only one that feels this way, but I might be the only one who isn’t either bound to diplomacy or just plain willing to come out and say it. I don’t have a problem with Jeff posting this. I have a problem with the fact that the community has put him into a position to have to ask this. So I’m being a bit disrespectful to people who comment here. Is it not more disrespectful come onto THE AUTHORS site and the them how to run it, and straight up disrespect THEIR guidelines? It pisses me off. If someone disrespected me like that I would bitch slap them back into their mamma’s arms.

Yeah, it’s a character flaw of mine, but when people disrespect something/someone I love I go fight so that they don’t have to. I would much rather take the hit than any of these authors lose their credibility (so hopefully they are doing their job and banning me right now). So hate me for it. Hate me for fighting for the same thing they are fighting for, but using different tactics. But don’t put words in my mouth because you mis-read my comment.

by Jo-Jo on Feb 22, 2011 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry for your impatience.

 I guess it is a problem, and just writing this post may not stick the whole year. It is one attempt to make this site better. If it convinces a reader so be it.

Thank you for speaking out for what you feel.

by well you win some and lose others on Feb 22, 2011 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody said Jeff had to do this.

But from what I’ve learned reading his stuff for a year and a half, he has a genuine interest in making this site better. Would you rather he ignored reader feedback and just ran the site however the hell he felt like? Because he could very easily, and yet chose not to.

Attractive, Intelligent Reader

by Coug999 on Feb 22, 2011 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a tough answer.

I have been here quite a while and I have recently fell victim to an occasional ludicrous debate. It wasn’t even about an issue, it was a misunderstanding. I am not happy that I have let myself get sucked in that, that is not CougCenter. I am pissed off at myself and I apologize to those who have been around hear a while, because you know that is not my style. I have thought about walking away from CougCenter many times, but I love this site.

What happened to tact? I am tired of people thinking they are being attacked when someone replies to their post. I am also tired of people attacking the authors. Instead of asking you why you pointed something out about their post, they attack you, like you are the problem. When most likely it could just be a context issue, tone/text, wording or just framing their point of view wrong or even the reader misunderstanding the person’s point of view wrong. I have noticed this a lot in the last 6 months. I can’t remember this happening in the 2-1/2 years prior to that.

People don’t always express themselves correctly because most of us are not professional writers, which is okay, it is still fun to see other people’s perspectives even though we aren’t professionals. I for one don’t always express myself perfectly and I know it, so I try not to jump down someone’s throat when they respond to my post. If people could be more humble and less sensitive it would make it a lot easier. Instead of using sincerity and thinking why someone responded, people just get defensive.

I have come to understand if someone in life can’t agree to disagree it is usually because they are insecure in their own beliefs (but there are a few exceptions that are just haughty). Not everyone is going to agree and you can learn to see others points of view, without have to change your view. Ask someone why they responded a certain way, maybe you will both learn something.

Maybe new members have to wait a month after they sign up, so they can read and get a understanding of the site. Maybe catch onto memes and how people operate. It took me months before I decided to sign up.

I think a CougCenter member should understand they are dealing with fellow Cougars and we are all on the same side. Also, remember that we are talking about college kids and people jobs (Coaches) who this is their livelihood. It is okay to analyze, not attack. Try to write like that person might read it. Could you imagine if someone was dissecting your every move at work and bad mouthing you? I know they make good money, but that still doesn’t warrant it. What are they suppose to do? Quit the job they love because they make good money. They haven’t asked for it, they are just doing their job.

This is special and close community and I hope we can grow and keep it that way.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Feb 21, 2011 10:00 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I understand exactly what you're talking about.

I’ve disagreed many times with other members, and for the most part, they’ve understood why or better explained themselves. A lot of the time, it’s just some minor misunderstanding that can be easily fixed. However, there’s the occasional commenter who takes my disagreement as a personal attack and begins to get super defensive. What I don’t want to see happen is a sort of “pile on” begin. Usually it’s with people who never comment, but decide to give their 2 cents on the issue or be super passive aggressive about it. Disagreements and misunderstandings happen when there’s a ton of text to wade through. I think we can all do a better job of communicating and having patience.

by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 21, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe with someone you have never seen post before.
great pains

I wouldn’t necessarily call it that, but I understand what you are saying. This is the same as the authors not breaking out the “Ban Hammer” to quickly (that every else has been talking about). You have said that you guys are going to try and redirect more, instead of drop the hammer. I look at your “redirecting” the same as asking someone to clarify or not get defensive. I think you have tried to make this place about good dialog and understanding. I have seen the most stupid debates over context and misunderstanding. I know that I can post toward you, Kyle, Graddy, Coug999, Yaaaardsma, J.J. FeKl, etc. a lot different than someone else, and you won’t get offended because we all have a history on here. From now on if I am commenting to someone I haven’t really seen on here I should be a little more tactful and they should as well, because they are new to “your house.” It is like the new guy coming over to you house to watch the Cougar game. I am not going not say, “What’s up Jackass?” I will probably shake his hand and say nice to meet you. After meeting him a few times at multiple Cougar games at “your house” I will understand his personality more. Maybe he is sensitive, maybe he can’t take a joke, maybe he is haughty and I want to stay away. Or the guy might be a real jerk; I hope no one invites “that guy” to your house. I would steer clear of that guy.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Feb 22, 2011 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

You had to go all CAPS and yell at me.

My greeting to you would be more like Todd Packer in The Office. “What’s up my Nerd!” Classy.
You will enjoy these clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57lgHcv2cAU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57lgHcv2cAU

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Feb 22, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, link fail

Copy and paste failed me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdt0MqalPZk

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Feb 22, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

It's more of an issue on LookoutLanding

But everyone thinks he’s a comedian. It’s pretty clear that Jeff Sullivan truly understands comedy on LL, and everyone else tries to piggyback on him with stupid [shit] (am I allowed to use a swear word).

There are fewer comments here in general, but really heavy-handed attempts to be funny by people who are not that funny annoy me.

by evanr on Feb 21, 2011 10:06 PM PST reply actions  

Flagged

For what I assume was a personal attack on me.
I’m not self-conscious, I just really don’t think much of myself.

Cougar Basketball 2010-2011: *But Wait... There's Moore!*
SBNation Seattle Contributer -- WSU Daily Evergreen Newspaper columnist -- Twitter: @JeffdCollier

by GoCougs on Feb 21, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha, no

Like I said, I notice it more on Lookout Landing, and I just automatically equate all SB Nation blogs in my head.

The authors here are less funny than Jeff Sullivan of LL, mainly because he’s so good that it’s impossible to match him. On LL, the commenters try to keep up with his level of comedy and can’t do it. That’s what annoys me.

by evanr on Feb 21, 2011 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeff Sullivan is seriously one of my writing heroes

Which is a little uncomfortable since he’s a lot younger than me. But the dude is talented in ways I could only dream of — great voice.

For the purposes of our conversation, are we suggesting that great community members should know their strengths and stick to them? Because I, for one, would embarrass myself greatly if I tried to write like Sullivan.

by Jeff Nusser on Feb 21, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

LL is one of the top SBN blogs, and most of that has to do with Jeff Sullivan, but it also has to do with how they handle their community.

For the most part, bad commenters are snussed out early on and made to improve their commenting or face banishment. It’s a harsh environment to step into. I had to go there and then leave several times before I finally felt I was safe to comment there and that I was adding something to the conversation.

They have strict community guidelines but they aren’t hard to follow. I think what concerns me about the question “What are the characteristics of great comments?” is that it sounds a little anti-first amendment. Don’t get me wrong, first-amendment rights don’t apply to a blog or a community where the authors/mods (if authors don’t like the term moderator, then they would have to stop moderating the site and hire people who simply moderate. Otherwise, you are a mod, are you not? I don’t know that William Shakespeare banned people from his plays if they pissed him off. Or he hired someone else to do the kicking out.) anyways, where authors have the right to keep a community as they see fit. However, different styles and opinions are going to be what makes a community great.

To say that a comment like “I can’t believe he missed that shot” is a bad comment (and from my earlier understanding, this is a “bad” comment) seems too strict. As if people can’t express their emotions during an emotional game. Or maybe the bad comment was something more along the lines of “The Cougs didn’t show up today” but the point still remains that it seems a commentor can’t display anger or frustration or even pure joy (Is a comment like “WEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! I’M ELATED!!” a bad comment because it doesn’t provide pure, analytical, thoughtful analysis?

I rarely have commented in a game thread, because I have a hard time concentrating on the actual game, but frankly I have decided to stay away anyway because of these rules. And maybe that’s the way Jeff Nusser and team would like it to be if I feel this way. I don’t know. But I know that Lookout Landing is a much tougher place to feel welcome in general, yet I feel much more welcome there now.

I think a good blog is one that’s open to everyone and all their quirkiness and differences, while not allowing it to become degraded by unnecessary crassness, maliciousness, and word pollution.

And frankly, we are Cougs. We should be the tightest knit group of any sports team, that’s the way I’ve always seen.

by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 22, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm sorry you feel that way about the game threads

Honestly, “I can’t believe he missed that shot” is perfectly acceptable on a game thread, and it’s why we’re actively working to combat that perception.

I like this:

I think a good blog is one that’s open to everyone and all their quirkiness and differences, while not allowing it to become degraded by unnecessary crassness, maliciousness, and word pollution.

I might just use that, if you don’t mind.

by Jeff Nusser on Feb 22, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Well I usually just pop over to the gamethreads to celebrate or comiserate, so most of my comment comes from the recent articles and threads on commenting and the community.

I think the post-game and pre-game analytical articles are great, and I’m happy to have this blog as a way to read about the football and basketball teams from a perspective that is better educated on the subject than I am.

I guess my biggest question on the game threads is “How similar should game thread comments be to real life comments?” Like if I am watching a game with friends and making comments to each other, should that be acceptable in a game thread? For instance, during the Arizona game is was a lot of “How can they not make a free throw?” and “DeAngelo really half-assed that dunk”

by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 22, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Great questions

The best way I can describe it, and I’ve done this before, is that our regular posts are like chilling around a pitcher of microbrew with the grad students at Rico’s, while game threads are like watching the game with 100 other people at Sports Page. To that end, exclamations are expected and encouraged during game threads.

Where we tend to frown is when comments become attacking, as demonstrated by your last example. But even then, there’s pretty wide latitude because of the emotional nature of games.

by Jeff Nusser on Feb 22, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

And then, to answer my own question

I think what makes a great comment on a game thread is one in which the reader is having fun — enjoying the experience of hanging out with a bunch of other fans.

by Jeff Nusser on Feb 22, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I see, thanks for the clarification.

I wish the Cougs were giving me more reasons to head over to the game threads, but I’m burying my head in the sand for now.

by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 22, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't blame you

And I honestly believe this is some of the issue.

by Jeff Nusser on Feb 22, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Gamethreads are fun, less serious, and a great way of interacting with other members.

That being said, I’m afraid I jinx the team when I participate.

Cougcenter OG

by J.J. FeKl on Feb 22, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Then maybe you should start participating.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Feb 22, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

No kidding right?

Why do you think I haven’t been around the past few days. Suicide watch.

Cougcenter OG

by J.J. FeKl on Feb 22, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually really like this

I never really thought about it that way, but you’re right — some of the comments that have created the biggest problems are those that try to get too big picture. That stuff gets tackled elsewhere.

by Jeff Nusser on Feb 22, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

For sure, it is easier/better to participate in a game thread if you get in early on.

But even if I don’t, I’ll read through the entire thread beforehand.

by Kenneth Arthur on Feb 22, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with this

If I haven’t been there from the start, I like to read, or at least skim, the rest of the thread to get caught up. There’s a dynamic involved, and it’s good to see what it is before just jumping in. You can learn a lot from doing so.

by Brian Floyd on Feb 22, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

fair enough

and that’s more or less what i meant. just make sure you understand what you’re getting into before you post “No heart. We suck again. Coach really blew it”

Back to my football example. There are some things I said in a couple football threads from my Blackberry that I’m not proud of. And it’s pretty much because I didn’t want to watch the game and try and scroll through 300 posts on a tiny screen before I wrote what I was disgusted with. Even if I was spot on, chances are the people in the gamethread have already been over it.

by BigWood! on Feb 22, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I tried to stay off the gamethread from my seat for those same reasons.

Particularly during the Montana State game, which I wasn’t proud of. I did drop a profanity-laced tirade to Jeff over instant message sometime during the game, though.

by Brian Floyd on Feb 22, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe there might have been some profanity tirades

Coming the other direction from my seat at The Ram during that one, as well. That was not a happy day.

by Jeff Nusser on Feb 22, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I was driving through the Blue Mountains in Oregon

Trying to listen to the game on AM radio from the Tri-Cities. Between having the game cut out for minutes at a time and what I was hearing when it was coming in I was about to have an aneurysm. I’m glad I didn’t have the capacity to post at that time.

Cougcenter OG

by J.J. FeKl on Feb 22, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I first saw the score when the cougs were down by a couple of scores..

And I was not a happy camper

What goes up must come down.
Sorry Duck fans

by Neil Vincent Roberts on Feb 22, 2011 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

also, i hate amateur psychology (and I don't think I'm alone)

don’t say Klay is pouting; don’t say Ken Bone doesn’t show enough emotion. don’t say Abe got beat baseline (again) because he’s not mentally tough enough. don’t say Reggie loves the Huskies too much, etc. We don’t know the players outside of four hours of television per week. To pretend that we know what goes on in practice or even worse, inside someone’s head at any given time.

There’s another forum for that garbage.

by BigWood! on Feb 22, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Now that I think about it...

There are times when I have something I wanna post that I know isn’t up to par enough to post here. So I go there and post it. Its cathartic.

Cougcenter OG

by J.J. FeKl on Feb 22, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Although

If nothing I have is working I sometimes read the game thread just to find audio or web feed.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Feb 22, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

you missed the most important thing

The cougs need to win more games.
we win = “me happy” and we all know what that means. It’s the only thing I bring to the table, work with me team. work with me.

by woolybugger on Feb 22, 2011 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Kind of

Re-reading my comment, I realize what I said came off as a total slight, which I didn’t intend. I’m trying to praise Jeff Sullivan because he is incredible.

The rest of what I’m saying is more of a rant. Just that not everything everyone says has to be a great pun or killer reference. Again, it’s more of a problem with LL, but then, I don’t know how many people read LL and CC concurrently.

The authors here are incredible in their own way. Namely, they know stuff about basketball and football that would baffle even Jeff Sullivan.

by evanr on Feb 21, 2011 10:40 PM PST reply actions  

A few thoughts...

some restating, others new(ish).

1) A good commenter/community member tries to bring something new to the discussion. Whether its building on something someone else has said (pointing out other examples), or offering evidence to refute it. Obviously game threads move very fast, so the “rules” are a little more loose there.

2) Be respectful. Kinda speaks for itself. Those of us that have been posting for a while understand each other’s humor, but noobs may not. Which leads me to:

3) Don’t take it personally. If someone disagrees with your comment or point (even if they’re disagreeable about it), don’t take it as if they’ve impregnated your girlfriend while you were out of town. Rather than responding in kind, try to diffuse the situation, rather than escalate it.

4) Use the “Rec” button. If someone makes a point that explains your thoughts better than you can, you don’t need to rehash it. If you HAVE to post something, a simple “well said” or “rec’d” goes a long way.

5) If you’re not sure of the argument the poster/author is making, ask. Don’t just start disagreeing or calling them out.

6) ENJOY THE SITE! In other words, if it gets heated, or there seems to be a lot of dunderheads posting and you’re not having fun/being educated, stop reading the thread. Come back tomorrow. I found myself having similar feelings to JoJo, because I had to go through and read every thread, every comment, and chime in on them all. In the early days, that was easy to do. Now, with the bigger community, theres a lot to wade through to get to the good stuff. You can see where a thread is going. If you don’t like it, don’t keep going. Come back in a couple days and the comments worth reading are already rec’d for you.

by TiltingRight on Feb 22, 2011 12:00 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

I AGREE! (Caps intended)
  1. and #3 are very wise. ESPECIALLY #3.
    Oh, and #6 as well.
    I try to think of this site as a place where I talk to fellow Cougs. Be it a dorm room a million years ago, or at a bar, or at a game, or wherever. It’s very much a matter of respect. When you type, maybe think – “would I say this to someone to his/her face?” If yes, would I really use those words? And then step back a moment and think about it again. It only takes a matter of seconds.
    And to agree with SoCalCoug, you don’t have to be a professional writer. Just have some guidelines. TiltingRight’s #2 (I laughed as I typed that – I have the mind of a 12 year old) sounds like the “good commenter” Golden Rule. Respect.
    Go Cougs!

by Heavy_G on Feb 22, 2011 1:28 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

A good commenter:

1. Brings something new to the table
2. doesn’t unnecessarily attack other commenters
3.doesn’t beat a dead horse
4. follows the community guidelines (obviously)
5. (here’s the biggie, and I’m trying to demonstrate it in this comment) IS CONCISE. Don’t post an entire paragraph for a thought that can fit into one sentence! I get bored when reading paragraph comments.

Attractive, Intelligent Reader

by Coug999 on Feb 22, 2011 11:49 PM PST reply actions  

Broke my own rule

(I had to urban dictionary that)

Attractive, Intelligent, Short Attention Span Reader

by Coug999 on Feb 23, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

tmc;cb

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Feb 23, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Ut oh.

Time for a new slogan. Attractive, Intelligent, Short-Attention-Span Reader.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Feb 23, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Done

Attractive, Intelligent, Short Attention Span Reader

by Coug999 on Feb 23, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL. That is classic.

"Yaka Fest from outside for Klay Thompson" – Marques Johnson

by SoCalCoug on Feb 23, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

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