WSU BASKETBALL RECRUITING: DJ Shelton Scouting Report
Cougfan.com reported Thursday that WSU has picked up a verbal commitment from junior college big man DJ Shelton out of Citrus College in Azusa, Calif. What kind of player are the Cougs getting?
Shelton, at 6-foot-9, joins 6-8 high school recruit Greg Sequele to fill an immediate need. The frontcourt has developed into a mess over the past three years, thanks to a transfer (James Watson), injuries (Steven Bjornstad and Fabian Boeke), as yet unfulfilled potential (Brock Motum) and a general lack of ability to recruit quality big men. When your starting 4 is 6-7 and 200 pounds ... well, that should tell you all you need to know about the state of the program's forwards and centers.
(Of course, this is to say nothing of the very real possibility that the program's only quality, two-way big man is leaving the program at the end of the year.)
Shelton isn't particularly thick -- listed at 220 pounds -- but he's long, rangy and athletic, if pretty unpolished offensively. His story is an interesting one, and it's tough to tell whether we should interpret it as full of red flags or simply read it as a kid who knew he was in a bad situation and needed to get out.
He is the nephew of former Seattle SuperSonic Lonnie Shelton and cousin of former Washington Husky Marlon Shelton, and he originally enrolled at Cal State-Fullerton. After spending a year on the bench, he transferred to Citrus. Because of the redshirt at Fullerton, he'll have three years to play three seasons.
It's unclear why he left Fullerton, but if you're to believe these guys, he was either just not good enough or squeezed out by an impatient coach. It's a message board, so take it for what it's worth. It's also not clear why Shelton was still uncommitted and unsigned at this stage of the recruiting game. This is not the sort of thing that inspires confidence that WSU is picking up an impact player
His measurables are certainly there, though, and you can see the athleticism. Here's a video from his senior year of high school. Don't fall too in love with the jump shots and such - it's pretty easy to splice together some good looking clips and leave out the ugly stuff. Look at how he moves:
Impressive, right? Well, if you want to see the rare video where a guy isn't lighting it up, check this one out -- you can get a first-hand view of Shelton whiffing on a couple of blocks and bricking a dunk. He does look good running the court, though!
I kid. But I appreciate that video because it should help temper your expectations a little bit. He's got tools, but he's also got a fair amount of developing to do, too.
Shelton was productive at Citrus -- his counting stats read 12 points, 6.7 rebounds and 1.6 blocks in 23.7 minutes per game. But, of course, we want to take a look at his tempo-free stats. I've included his team's stats for context:
| Poss/game | 80.7 | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CITRUS | OPPONENTS | SHELTON | ||||||
| Efficiency | 109.4 | Efficiency | 92.4 | Minute% | 57.3% | |||
| eFG% | 54.9% | eFG% | 45.9% | Shot% | 19.9% | |||
| OR% | 38.9% | OR% | 28.4% | eFG% | 65.9% | |||
| TO Rate | 20.2% | TO Rate | 24.7% | OR% | 12.0% | |||
| FT Rate | 48.5% | FT Rate | 39.9% | DR% | 22.4% | |||
| 3FG% | 37.3% | 3FG% | 30.2% | FT Rate | 53.9 | |||
| 2FG% | 54.3% | 2FG% | 46.0% | Assist% | 7.0% | |||
| 3FGA/FGA | 38.1% | 3FGA/FGA | 21.6% | Steal% | 2.5% | |||
| Block% | 7.4% |
A couple of things stick out to me. First, Shelton was an excellent rebounder at this level. If he were to put up those percentages at WSU, he'd be far and away our best rebounder -- DeAngelo Casto leads both categories at 8.9 OR% and 17.9 DR%. Of course, it's unlikely Shelton can sustain that kind of production against the bigger players he'll see next year. I'd also caution against reading too much into that offensive rebounding percentage. Look at his team's pace (80.7, blisteringly fast) and team OR% (38.9 - elite Division I teams are above 35) and understand that at least some of his production in that area is due to team philosophy.
However, there's evidence to suggest that rebounding is one skill that almost always translates between levels. So while it's not reasonable to expect him to maintain rebounding percentages of greater than 10 and 20 percent, it's reasonable to believe he's probably better in that department right now than anything else currently on the roster not named Casto.
I also love that effective field goal percentage, which was built almost entirely on 2s (he only took three 3s all season). Given that his team took 3s on nearly 40 percent of their possessions, that tells you exactly what his role was. I would imagine a fair amount of that percentage is dunks, but that can't explain all of it. Again, he'll find the going rougher against larger defenders, but it's encouraging to be adding a big man to the fold who apparently has at least a bit of touch around the basket.
The bottom line is this. Shelton's probably not going to come in and set the world on fire next year, but he'll make the team better immediately just by being big and being able to go get some rebounds. And that's not a bad thing.
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After reading that message board
and knowing what (little) I know of CSF, it’d be tough for any freshman to establish himself. They get transfers from bigger programs all the time. So, while you can wonder why he didn’t get any “big” offers coming out of H.S., but transfer doesn’t bother me.
The lack of interest after his CC play does.
by TiltingRight on Mar 27, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Good stuff Jeff
You wonder why Bone chose to not offer Behrens from South King County (Tahoma High). Maybe feels Shelton and Sequele fit the need of an immediate rebounder/shot blocker.
Re: Behrens
He’s really thin. Could be, as you speculate, that he just wasn’t a good match for need right now.
Would you value Shelton over Behrens?
I just find it odd that Montgommery goes after a 3/4 in Bone’s and Romar’s recruiting grounds, and doesn’t go after the two bigs that Bone chose to offer over Behrens.
I guess I see Behrens as a great fit in Bone’s or Romar’s system. A face-up athletic 6’8" forward who can play multiple positions
by dertingfactor on Mar 27, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree he's an intriguing talent
But Bone was really hamstrung with this roster. He needs rebounders. Badly.
I also don’t know anything about Behrens’ recruitment. Always possible he never wanted to stay in-state, I suppose. Maybe you know more about it.
Maybe, I went tto Tahoma ten years ago and still live in the area.
But I believe they’re in the same conference as Rogers and Curis. I’m guessing you never saw him in person?
He’s a ‘much’ more developed scorer than either Sequele or Shelton. Like you said, it’s too bad so many of our bigs failed, so Bone can’t even go after a high scoring 3/4 who needs to work on strength. Behrens also had a major injury his Junior year that scared a lot of teams off, but had a great senior year averaging about 22 points per game. Hence the Cal offer.
by dertingfactor on Mar 27, 2011 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
We already have a big man that bricks dunks.
Looks like hes playing lazy. Not to say I’ve seen him play better at some point or that I can tell he’s jogging. Maybe he’s always played like that. I guess that’s not a good sign. But he also just seems like a bench player. Hopefully when he gets in he can connect on some of those big swings he’s taking.
Seems like a taller James Watson.
Provided Casto stays Shelton could be useful to spell him and maintain our frontcourt defense/rebounding when Casto gets in foul trouble or needs a break. Maybe his presence and experience will allow Bone to redshirt Sequele and let him fill out and polish his offensive game.
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
We don't know that he's taller.
As I recall, Watson was listed by Scout as 6’8.5" so who knows how tall Shelton is.
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Watson was about 6-7.
And ideally, we want one of these two guys to start next to Casto, again, assuming he’s sticking around.
You don't want Motum to start at the 4 next season?
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
Not unless he improves his defensive rebounding production by about 75 percent.
Until he does, he should remain a reserve player. His defensive rebounding percentages are absurdly low for someone who is 6-foot-10. Inexcusably low.
And if we had another big to stick in against UW we'd probably have made the tournament.
Countless games this season where Casto was the only big who wasn’t a total liability.
by dertingfactor on Mar 27, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think people realize how bad of a rebounder Motum is.
Here’s some help. When you take away the charges he draws, he’s pretty much an extreme liability on the defensive end.
I realize Motum is a liability defensively.
My point is with an offseason of improvement in that part of the game, combined with his offensive abilities I don’t see any reason he shouldn’t play 20-25 minutes a game next season. When paired with Casto or Shelton/Sequele those deficiencies on defense could be masked to an extent.
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
Rebounding is a skill that doesn't tend to show dramatic improvement
If that defiincy wasn’t able to be masked this year, why would it in the future?
Because Motum and Lodwick would rarely be on the floor together.
"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."
Right. Just because Scout says he's 6'9" doesn't make it so.
Same thing for his JC. Wasn’t Michael Beasley quote-unquote 6’9" at K-state?
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I always find the height argument funny.
Some teams/scouts measure a player barefoot, while others measure in shoes. Some people discount a player measured in shoes.
Not sure why. They don’t play barefoot.
by Kyle Rancourt on Mar 27, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
I don’t get it when people are “undersized” at their position. I remember being really into the NBA and the NBA Draft specifically for about 5 years. Someone who was a PF and was 6’10 was ideal. Someone who was a PF but 6’8 was “undersized”.
What? How? We’re a country obsessed with stupid, pedantic things like this.
by Kyle Rancourt on Mar 27, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
So if the 6'8 guy performed well, it was a bonus because he was undersized
if he sucks, you can blame it on the fact that he was undersized.
by sdcoug09 on Mar 28, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Derrick Williams is 6'8". Do you think the NBA is worried about
2" with him. I wonder if they consider him a undersized forward? I don’t think they care with him. Rumor has it that Williams has a 7’+ wingspan. I remember I used to see Charles Barkley listed any where from 6’5" to 6’9" and he was really around 6’4 to 6’5". Barkley was a great rebounder and forward. Sometimes the height thing is overrated. Ivory Clark was a good shot blocker at 6’6". 6’6" and above it good size for the college ranks. Sometimes what really matters in college is can they play?
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That's basically my point.
I remember Reggie Evans with the Sonics a few years back. He’s listed at 6’8, but when they went up to WWU to do an open practice, he was almost the same height as my friend who is 6’4. But his arms were really, really long. I’d say reach and tenacity are more important, but since you can really only measure the former, height is used.
by Kyle Rancourt on Mar 28, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he meant to sucker punch Chris Kaman in the stomach
but since he was four inches shorter than advertised he hit him in the balls instead?
Ya, I was agreeing with you and expanding on your point.
They should start measuring standing reach height instead of just height. I bet Derrick William standing reach is as tall as some 7 footers.
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If you're an exemplary talent size matters less.
that’s what she said
But in the case of us taking a player out of a JC via CS Fullerton, I’d really prefer if he was 6’9" instead of 6’6".
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I agree.
I was just talking size and athleticism. I just want a player, that can play. I can flip around and say who would you rather have 6’10" Chris McNamara or 6’6" Ivory Clark. Of course we usually want the bigger guy, but I want him to be able to play. There is always going to be an example of this to argue the other side.
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there is some validity to it
Corliss Williamson.
by Jo-Jo on Mar 28, 2011 5:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Marcus Fizer?
There are far more examples of guys who are just a little too short not making than there are of guys who become all-stars.
the new commit Dj shelton
I cant wait to see what this kid brings to the table! his videos are nice and his family background is very inpressive before his uncle lonnie played a forward was just a forward he made themcall it power forward do to his massive build and pressence the sonics loved him he also has a uncle that played in the NFL and coached for the san fransisco forty niners name Milton Jackson a uncle Daimon Shelton who played 10 years in the NFL full (back) and uncle Chris Shelton who played overseas the guy could jump out of the building. when i heard Lonnie Shelton was the uncle all doubts wen out the window…Lets go cougs

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