2011 WSU DEPTH CHART: Can The Offensive Line Substantially Improve?
This continues our series of semi-informed WSU football depth chart speculation in which we take a stab at what each position will look like when the Cougars kick off against Idaho State on Sept. 3.
You'll note, at times, that it will look a little different than the post-spring practice depth chart -- we're going to incorporate incoming players and also try to guess what's going to play out in August during training camp. Previous: QBs, DBs, RBs, LBs, DL, WRs.
Without a doubt, no unit has symbolized the futility of the WSU Cougars since Paul Wulff took over like the offensive line. Their numbers over the past three years haven't just been bad -- they've been staggeringly bad.
Just 2.6 yards per rushing attempt -- 120th out of 120 teams in FBS. The 146 sacks allowed are also dead last, 12 more than 119th Hawaii and 30 more than than 118th. WSU allowed more than 50 sacks two of the last three years; the rest of FBS football has combined for just three such seasons.
The crazy part about it is that it runs counter to everything we expected from Wulff. As a standout lineman at WSU himself, Wulff promised to bring passionate, physical football to Pullman, starting up front. That obviously has not happened.
We all know this is the year Wulff has to show that the program is taking major steps forward, and that's really only going to be possible if WSU can get improved play out of the offensive line. With Jeff Tuel at quarterback and myriad weapons at wide receiver, if this unit can just be average at blocking, the Cougars have the makings of a pretty decent offense.
The two deep is loaded with juniors and seniors, including no starters who are in their first year in the program, so inexperience won't be an excuse with these guys. Line coach Steve Morton has had 12 months to work with these guys. The only question that remains is talent. And it's a big question.
| LT | LG | C | RG | RT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Starter | David Gonzalez, Sr. | John Fullington, So. | Andrew Roxas, Sr.* | B.J. Guerra, Sr.* | Wade Jacobson, Sr. |
| Backup | John Fullington, So. | Tyson Pencer, Jr.* | Taylor Meighen, Jr. | Tyson Pencer, Jr.* | Rico Forbes, Jr. |
| Third | Dan Spitz, Jr.* | Elliott Bosch, So.* | Brent Anderson, Fr.* | Elliott Bosch, So.* | Jake Rodgers, Fr.* |
Level of certainty: Medium-high. Coaches don't generally make many definitive statements coming out of spring practices, but one of the things that was clear in April was that Wulff was really pleased with the starting unit with which he finished. This included Gonzalez returning from injury to reclaim left tackle, Fullington moving from tackle to guard, Jacobson moving outside to right tackle to take over for the steady (if unspectacular) Micah Hannam, Roxas moving up to take over for Zach Williams and Guerra returning to his spot. Barring injury, about the only change you might see is JC transfer Meighen overtaking Roxas, but I wouldn't bank on it -- Wulff and Morton seem to be valuing continuity at this point, and I think they want to pick one unit and go with it.
Risk of volatility: Medium-low. Again, I think the coaches will be striving for continuity, something this unit has had precious little of over the last few years, so I don't see a lot of mixing and matching for the sake of it. However, Roxas is still a question mark -- not necessarily because of ability, but because of health issues that have plagued him for the last two years. But in terms of guys waiting in the wings who might make some noise and force their way into the starting lineup? Outside of Meighen, I just don't see it. Beyond that, if injuries happen here and there, you're likely to just see the healthy starters plus Pencer and Meighen move around (for example, Fullington would likely move back out to left tackle if Gonzalez went down again). Of course, if injuries reach 2009 levels, all bets are off, and you might be saying hello to Dan Spitz, converted defensive tackle/starting left tackle.
Biggest question: Does this unit even have the talent to be successful in the Pac-12? For the job Wulff and his staff have done at finding talent at the skill positions, they seem to have been unable to duplicate that on the lines. Fullington obviously stands out, but the majority of the rest of the guys are holdovers from the Bill Doba era and a hodgepodge of junior college transfers -- none of whom have truly distinguished themselves. Perhaps Gonzalez and Jacobson are ready to impress after a year in the program. But there's a very real -- and very scary -- possibility that all these guys just aren't good enough.
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Another concern (for me anyway)
Health. These guys have to stay healthy because the listed back-ups and third stringers don’t inspire that much confidence.
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by Michael The Coug on Jul 6, 2011 10:10 AM PDT reply actions
Here is a list of incoming freshman OL
and guys I think could turn into lineman. Positions were listed by Scout.
1. Mansel Simmons TE 6’5" 23 (could convert to OL)
2. Wendell Taiese OT 6’6" 340 (probably going to have to lose some lbs)
3. Alex Mitchell OG 6’3" 300 (If there are injuries I wouldn’t be surprised if they burn his redshirt)
4. Matt Goetz (JC) OG 6’4" 280 (Probably redshirt)
5. Brock Lutes DE 6’3" 210 (I am wondering what position they will put him)
6. Max Hersey MLB 6’2" 233 (I have heard TE, but we will see)
Jake Rodgers came in as a TE at 6’7" 245, now he is a OL, so I am curious what they will do with the incoming class. If you don’t think some of these guys above can turn into OL, just look at the size Tyson Pencer and the size he has put on. He came in as a TE at 6’5" 230 lbs. Wulff likes to bring in tweeners that other programs won’t take so he can mold them into a position. Not only Wulff, but a lot of WSU coaches have done this.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
I forgot.
I am assuming that incoming freshman Darryl Paulo who on Scout is listed as a MLB at 6’4" 270. I see him either at DE or DT, probably DT. I don’t think we will see him on the OL.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
I wouldn't be shocked if Hersey does. He seems to have the frame to put on size.
Do you think he going to play TE or DE? I think they may start him there, then change their minds.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Good to know.
They are already shifting players around. I guess at 300 lbs they want some size in the defensive trenches immediately.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Whats the report on Pencer?
At 6’8’’, 330lbs, is he just too slow? Bad footwork?
by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 6, 2011 10:40 AM PDT reply actions
Can also add perpetually injured to that list.
To be honest, I can’t remember what the deal is. Just has been buried on the depth chart/injured.
I remember Grippi writing that they like his power on the interior
But yeah, I think there is some truth to the “bad footwork” thing at left tackle.
by Jeff Nusser on Jul 6, 2011 11:50 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He was flat out abused playing LT at USC in 09
Hopefully he can contribute somewhere eventually. Him and Kaleta standing next to each other would at least look imposing, even if they can’t block anybody.
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He's a Canadian...
..and he’s still learning to move without skates
Seriously though
two years ago he played the season with an injury that would have kept him out if we’d had any depth and last year he had a back problem that he couldn’t shake. If he’s ever at full strength I expect great things from him.
Slightly OT: WSU reportedly just got a new DT commit
@yancyporter reporting that Maurice Bennett has committed to WSU
by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 6, 2011 11:44 AM PDT reply actions
The Ideal situation for this fall
would be that all the starters stay healthy (obviously) and we are able to redshirt Meighen/Forbes. Both guys have 3 to play 2, and with 4/5 OL departing after this season, having these guys with their full two years left would be huge. Rotate Rodgers, Bosch and Pencer during the year to spell the starters. If any of the starters go down though, I do not necessarily have faith in these guys to fill the holes, particularly at Center.
But if it comes together right, both those two shirt, Mitchell and Taiese make it to school and and Matt Goetz comes along, our OL situation after this season looks significantly better than it did a couple of months ago.
Last year the line was fantastic.
(on NCAA ’11.)
by Kyle Rancourt on Jul 6, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
WRONG.
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by Craig Powers on Jul 7, 2011 11:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Obviously I meant on my Xbox
where I made them all 90+ overall.
by Kyle Rancourt on Jul 7, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
OSU?
They looked good only that game, right?
by well you win some and lose others on Jul 7, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really.
Tuel was running for his life much of the time.
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by Craig Powers on Jul 8, 2011 7:48 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably Jerome's big year.
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by Craig Powers on Jul 7, 2011 11:30 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't take a lot away from the spring games....
but if there was one thing I noticed this year is the Oline (on both teams) knew where they were supposed to be on every play.
Does that translate into a great OLine? Who knows, but it sure beats guys watching the Dline go straight at the QB.
Even speedbumps would be an upgrade
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
We haven't even had speedbumps...
…we’ve had matadors. Ole’?
It's not this years OL line that makes me worry.
It’s next year’s OL. Hopefully our Juniors are just as good as our Seniors.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
How I long for an "average" offensive line.
How is that for low expectations?

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