Greg Sequele Will Not Enroll At WSU After Falling Short Of Eligibility Requirements
by Brian Floyd on Aug 25, 2011 3:09 PM PDT
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PrintWell, this certainly isn't good news. Washington State freshman-to-be Greg Sequele won't actually arrive on campus in Pullman after falling short of eligibility requirements. While Sequele was seen as a raw prospect, and a bit of a project, head coach Ken Bone desperately needed his presence in the post after losing DeAngelo Casto this past offseason. Sequele had yet to show up on campus, and now we know why.
According to Vince Grippi on Twitter, Sequele's inability to meet the eligibility requirements was confirmed by Washington State on Thursday afternoon.
Washington State confirms 6-foot-8 freshman Greg Sequele will not be enrolling in school. Did not meet NCAA eligibility requirements.
The Cougars are razor-thin in the post with the news that Sequele will not make it in. While we all expected the 2011-12 season to be a rebuilding year, losing Sequele should significantly temper expectations. He wasn't the savor or golden ticket, but his mere presence was needed immediately, project or not.
That leaves the Cougars with but a small handful of post players. D.J. Shelton will have to be "the guy," with Brock Motum filling in. Charlie Enquist should see time in the post, as well. That's it. Those are the three guys who could play at the 5.
As Jeff said earlier, the offensive theory should simply be "run like hell" at this point.
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Are you kidding me??!!! This sucks!
How many more days until it is to late to enroll? Can we get a JC big man in here quick? We need some size to throw around inside.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Bone needs to go here now.
http://jucojunction.rivals.com/forum.asp?fid=1425
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
I hit control F "6-10" and got no results.
Dang.
by Mark Sandritter on Aug 25, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Sequele was a long term project. He was not going to be expected to contribute next year
Bone will probably take a JC big next year to compensate…or maybe Greg will get his grades in order by then and he can re-enroll.
Shelton’s the guy we reallyreallyreally can’t afford to lose. Sequele wasn’t going to average more than last year’s Charlieball minutes (8ish) this season anyway.
Even if he was able to play a similar role to James Watson two years ago
Energy guy, 5-10 minutes off the bench type. That would have been pretty valuable considering our depth.
by Mark Sandritter on Aug 25, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
valuable is relative
the 2011-12 team was a 13 win team with/without Sequele.
Sucks that he’s not here. Not a lot more valuable than a 6’10" athletic freshman. But short-term, I’m not worried.
What is short term?
1-2 years. Because Bone is going to have figure out something with the Bigs in these 2 years. In two year ever player above 6-8 will be gone (besides Simon 6’8").
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
Sorry, my typing sucks right now. Frustrated.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
i think 2011-12 is a mulligan
If I’m Coach Bone, I hold the scholarship for a year and give it to a JC big man for 2012-13, even if that JC big man is JC Greg Sequele.
If I’m finding a bright side here (which I’m not), it does allow our staff to further evaluate Greg against better competition. Unfortunately, it also allows 300 other schools to do the same.
6'8' and above.
Sr – Enquist 6’10"
Sr – Lodwick 6’7" (I am throwing him in because he doesn’t play guard)
Sr. McNamara 6’10"
Jr. Motom 6’10"
So. Shelton 6’9" (I forgot he is a Soph)
So. Simon 6’8.5"
Our next tallest guy is DKD at 6’6". In two year Bone better have something figured out.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
yep, and we have five open spots next year
no need to panic…..yet.
The reason I think this sucks is because
this can hurt more than in football. Football there is more players and more red-shirting that goes on, so it isn’t as big of a deal when a player (student) doesn’t qualify. Also in football you can put size on a guy and play him as a lineman. A big guy in basketball has to have skills. They either have them or they don’t. Baynes seems like the exception here (he was like fine wine). Big guys don’t grow on trees especially in basketball. We have beat that to death on here. So it isn’t time to panic, but this can’t be seen as a o’ well. Hopefully we land some athletic big men next year. I would be shocked to see Bone add more than 1 legit big guy next year.
How about we don't buy Starbucks until the Sonics come back? Huh Schultz? Refuse to Schmooze!
Maybe we can get 5 big guys next with "huge upside."
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I've said I'm not worried about the short term
I’m choosing not to panic about the long-term until I see what Bone does with five open spots to fill.
I am not trying to be a smart a**
with this comment, but do you think having 5 spots open makes it easier to recruit good big men? We had 3 this year and got a NR 6’9" JC player who originally came from the BigWest C, a 6’8" skinny forward who wasn’t recruited by anyone else, and a good combo guard. Do you think after a 2011-12 dominating season Bone is going to bring in some big guy talent? I like Bone but if you look at his past teams he has only had a few big guys, I don’t know if that formula will translate in the Pac12, maybe in the BigWest, BigSky or WCC. I just want to see some balance and maybe a big guy (or two) who will show a glimmer of hope that we can get some big guy talent in here. Beside Casto and Baynes when is the last time we had big guy talent? Ivory Clark? I think he was a 6’6" shot blocker. When has Cougar basketball won?…When we’ve had decent (if not good) big men, like Casto, Baynes and Hendrickson. I would like one good post man, who can also occasionally make the outside jumper and rebound and another big man as a shot blocker who also can grab a few rebounds. That is it (of course with good role playing big men on the bench). (By the way we already have enough guards)
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I understand what you are saying, but Bone knew he would have spots open.
He knew guys would transfer and Bjornstad probably wasn’t coming back. It just wasn’t public knowledge. He had someone commit when we didn’t even have a spot open. Go figure. He has done that two years in a row. Do think having 5 open spots that will be public knowledge this coming year is going to help him get more talent? Do you think this will be his first real recruiting class since he has been at WSU? Bennett did leave him with and ugly recruiting cycle.
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You start building relationships with those guys probably 2 years in advance, though
Basketball isn’t like football. It’s not a one-year recruiting cycle. And so you can’t say, that with no scholarships for sure in hand, that Bone could do everything he needed to do. I know he signed guys without open spots, but it’s just not the same in the recruiting process.
Like BigWood, yes, I think this next recruiting class will be the real test. He’s known for some time that he would have at least four scholarships, and has had time to establish relationships with players as the coach of WSU.
I do find it interesting that we have no commits for that class, even though the early signing day is in mid-November. I don’t know if that’s a good or bad thing.
i think he will
most of the decisions Bone has had to make regarding recruits have been made at the end of the season, when most good recruits make their commitments before it starts. Bone was able to attend a lot of AAU camps, etc being able to pitch 4 (now 5) open spots. That’s a lot different than trying to woo someone because you think someone might transfer. I don’t know if i’d call it his first real recruiting class (actually, I would) but for the past 3 offseasons he’s had to rely solely on JuCo and transfers (save for Lacy), because that’s who you’re going to get if the only available roster spots are due to unplanned turnover. My theory is Coach Bone is going to knock it out of the park with the four (now five) guys he brings in for 2012-13. We’ve got six months or so to see if it happens.
by BigWood! on Aug 26, 2011 9:55 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Lodwick's a 4 right?
Or is he a 3? What about a 5?
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by Coug999 on Aug 25, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
McNamara....
No longer on the team. At least according to the media guide PDF on the basketball athletics page.
Since he didn't qualify out of HS he has to get his AA before he can play NCAA ball.
He will still be in JC in 2012.
Is that true for all sports?
What about gray shirts? Is it because of going to a JC, because Xavier Cooper got his grades cleared up and came to WSU. Or can you go to a semester at a JC, not play a sport, get your grades fix and then come to a NCAA school?
How about we don't buy Starbucks until the Sonics come back? Huh Schultz? Refuse to Schmooze!
I agree.
Losing Sequele doesn’t necessarily make or break the season, because the departures of Klay and Casto likely already did that.
Losing the year of development hurts though.
by Mark Sandritter on Aug 25, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You can't say that for sure.
I do agree he probably would have red-shirted, but who is to say he wouldn’t. He is known to have good shot blocking ability. I had read that he was already ahead of Watson. He could have fit into the rotation. It would be nice to have someone besides a guard on the team would have been nice. We have a plethora of guards. We need some athletic height.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
i think he would've averaged around 8 minutes a game
i don’t believe in redshirts for hoops.
You are right about redshirts
If they redshirt most likely they will never be a major contributor.
"Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back"
I think they're good for guys like Sequele and Dexter
who are completely raw because they came late to the game, but have huge upside. If you’re Harthun or Winston and have been playing the game since birth, you’re going to know if you’re going to make it that first 1-2 years; if not use it for your transfer year.
Whos the Tallest guy on the football team
http://washingtonstate.scout.com/a.z?s=137&p=8&c=1&nid=5480683
Joe Kaleta let him on the team and bang around there….why not haha
by korb M coug on Aug 25, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The TE's are 6-5 and strong.
Not like the football team is using them anyway.
by Mark Sandritter on Aug 25, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Some say
Tana was better at basketball then he was at football, I saw him play a couple times, and its a very close call…dudes a beast
How is this post not green?
I popped the rec cherry….
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Aug 25, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe just park Karstetter under the hoop and throw alley oops to him all night?
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by Coug999 on Aug 25, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
That sucks
Seems Bone has been overlooking recruiting big men since he was hired. I know he loves to run and throw up three pointers, but you still need someone taller than 6’5 on the court.
I don’t know, it just seems he needs to crank up his recruiting effort as WSU now has a little bit more money to work with and I have a feeling Moss will not tolerate mediocrity from the basketball team.
This is a pretty ignorant comment.
Did every other coach at WSU before him also overlook recruiting big men?
by Jeff Nusser on Aug 25, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Kinda harsh
I don’t think thats ignorant, its just my opinion, thanks man for belittling me though.
And yeah, I think Bennett also failed to recruit enough big men to help Casto otherwise we wouldn’t be in the position we are in.
by spokanecougar on Aug 25, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you name a WSU coach who DID do a great job recruiting big men?
I’m just trying to make the point that it’s hardly a matter of “overlooking” this. That’s a ridiculous notion. Bone is a pretty smart coach. I’m fairly sure he knows how important it is to have some competent big men.
Agreed
Big men do not grow on trees. Oh so cliche, but true.
We will call him Zatara.....sounds fearsome....It means driftwood.
Curious.
Bone obviously knew Sequele wasn’t going to qualify, and yet he pulled Bjornstad’s scholarship anyway. This now puts us one below the maximum, right? If so, that means either:
A) He’s got someone on the backburner to come in at what is now the very last second (highly unlikely), or …
B) One of the guys who came in as a walk-on had a wink-wink agreement that he’d be put on scholarship.
Why is it obvious?
This is the time of year when the clearinghouse makes a lot of decisions. Football teams all over the country are losing guys that they thought they could get in.
Because he didn't pull Bjornstad's scholarship until last week
I would assume he had at least a pretty good idea Sequele wasn’t going to qualify at that point.
I think he had to pull Bjornstads out of principle.
He couldn’t leave a guy who hasn’t been able to practice for 1.5 years on scholarship for another year.
I think they spent the summer trying to find something anything that could play in the Pac-12 as a big but struck out. I’m not sold that the scholarship is going to a walk-on. Last year after Watson washed out I thought for sure they would put Ladd on scholarship, but Bone was content to leave that spot open. I can’t see him having saved Sequele’s scholarship all summer for a walk-on guard.
by gbob on Aug 25, 2011 7:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Why would he "have" to pull it out of principal?
The program is paying his scholarship either way. It’s an accounting move, one that appears to only be necessary if you’re giving the scholarship to someone else.
I'm guessing Bone has a set standard of
what a player needs to contribute to the team to earn a scholarship. It probably includes being able to practice and contribute on the game floor and Bjornstad was no longer able to bring that to the program.
I’m not sure I follow you on the “accounting move.” Why is the scholarship being paid either way if it is being taken away from him and awarded to no one else?
by gbob on Aug 25, 2011 10:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He's being moved to a medical scholarship
So he’s still going to school for free on WSU’s dime. It just frees up the athletic scholarship, which wouldn’t seem to be necessary if he planned to just have it sit open.
by Brian Floyd on Aug 25, 2011 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You might be right here
The two walk-ons were pretty solid players, plus Dilorio, or did he put on scholarship?
We will call him Zatara.....sounds fearsome....It means driftwood.
I get what you are saying
I just don’t see him giving a scholly to Ballard or Chuks. The only way I see that happening is if he can’t pull in a big at the last moment. How many more days until final cut off? Isn’t it after the first two weeks of classes? If he doesn’t get anyone at the last minute, do you think he will give up a scholly or hold on to it. Do you believe once you give a scholly they get it the whole time they are here or do you think it is year-to-year performance based? Or do you make a deal with a walk-on that it is year-to-year?
How about we don't buy Starbucks until the Sonics come back? Huh Schultz? Refuse to Schmooze!
All scholarships are year-to-year.
And all coaches use that to their advantage. Why do you think Winston transferred?
I re-read your question
I think you’re asking what I would do. I would consider giving it to a walk-on for a year, as long as they knew the deal.
I just don't think that's how Bone sees scholarships
or last year he would have given Watson’s to Ladd, or even Ben Loewen as a debt of gratitude for his service to the program as a walk-on.
Plus, what if he stumbled onto an international player who could qualify in January? Wouldn’t he prefer to have a spot open for a situation like that?
Those are good thoughts
I think it’s equally plausible that the athletic department saw an opportunity to save $50,000 last year. We just don’t know.
by Jeff Nusser on Aug 26, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know that Ladd could have taken one.
Again, I’m not sure, but I think transfers have to sit for a year without a scholarship as penalty. But I may be getting crossed up.
This would also answer the question above about taking that open scholarship and giving it to Ladd last year.
by Brian Floyd on Aug 26, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Transfers can be on scholarship while they sit out; Woolridge will be on scholarship this year
I think in Ladd’s case, because he was transferring up from a WAC school and from a program he left on not-such-good-conditions, he had to come in as a walk-on and earn a scholarship.
I have heard people/coaches say
that if they give a player a scholly they will honor it, but for walks-ons it is a year-by-year basis. It sucks, but it should be year-to-year for all. I remember in college when I transferred I ended up walking on, then earned a starting spot. There were freshman on the bench that had full rides, then next year some of them quit or transferred and some stayed and kept their full rides and some got reduced to a partial. I knew this, so I tried to get the coach to give me scholly for the next season and he said he would see. (basically brushing it off) Because he knew I would return for my senior season no matter what. So why would he use that scholly when he could use it on a new recruit. It sucked, but I understood the business move, even being a starter.
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