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WSU Football Recruiting: A Quick Reminder Of The Overall Process

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After one of the most important recruiting weekends in the history of Washington State University, Coug fans everywhere are on pins and needles awaiting verbal commitments from these players. The internet is a great thing, but it also fuels rumors, speculation, and unfounded optimism. For example, I can report that WR Gabe Marks did commit to WSU, but he still wants to take visits in hopes of a better offer. That would be me 100% making up a story, but it wouldn't necessarily be incorrect. If I said some random player had WSU "high atop his list", and then that recruit went elsewhere, I wouldn't necessarily be incorrect. My sources could tell me a player was very close to committing to WSU, and then the player could commit to a different school after something changed. Again, I wouldn't necessarily be incorrect. Around this time of year, being right takes a back seat to being first.

Every rumor should be taken with a grain of salt, but everything anyone says before signing day should be taken with a grain of salt. Not just rumors. Everything. Players de-commit. Teams pull offers. These things are unfortunate, but they are also part of the overall process. I'll never get mad at a kid for switching up his commitment, even if it's at the last second.

If you read an interview with a recruit after a weekend visit, and he says he enjoyed his time on campus, don't think that automatically makes WSU his leader. The whole point of a visit is to tell the kid how awesome he is. The school pays for everything. Older players host these young high schoolers, telling them how cool they are and how much the team needs them. What the heck are the players supposed to say during an interview? Of course they had a good time. That's like interviewing someone after they play laser tag. Of course they're going to say it was awesome. Just because they loved playing laser tag doesn't mean they're going to start working at Laser Quest.

These kids are 17 and 18-years-old. They must decide where they spent the next four to five years of their lives. Education, atmosphere, fit within the offensive or defensive system, and about a million other things come into play. Kids are also ridiculous. Do you remember being that age? Here's an awesome story for everyone:

When I was 17, I was living at home with my parents, and working at Albertsons. I was a Courtesy Clerk, which is fancy for "bagger, cart gatherer, and absolute lowest man on the totem pole". You had to be 18 to work in the Customer Service Center, but I got promoted early anyway. My mom worked at Costco, and they also offered me a job when I turned 18. I turned it down to stay at Albertsons, even though Costco would have paid me almost $3 an hour more. Why? Because of a girl.

I'm not saying all recruits commit because they like the sororities on campus, but it's definitely been a deciding factor more than once. Kids read internet message boards and cross schools off their list because of stuff anonymous people say, so I'll never be surprised when it comes to recruiting.

The moral of the story is this:

Recruiting season is a whirlwind of speculation, rumor, and indecision. Until a player faxes in his signed Letter of Intent, I'm not going to feel comfortable counting on any of these kids being 100% committed. Kids are always solidly committed, until they're not.

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Mike Leach looks bad a** in Wazzu gear

I hope we don’t have another Sankey on our hands (now with the air raid that stings less) But I would say there are recruits that players on the team have scared off. Jonathan Stewart for example. His players took him to a bunch of parties and he hated it and than committed to Oregon the next week. Lets cross our fingers and hope they stay committed and according to Cougfan, Jerimiah Allison loved Pullman so hopefully we can land him too.

by Outlaw21 on Jan 16, 2012 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

The Allison thing is exactly what I was talking about.

Of course he loved Pullman. He’s supposed to. That’s what recruiting trips are for. Even if he just had an ok time, do you think he’d tell CougFan, a WSU themed blog, anything other than, “Yeah I had a lot of fun”?

by Kyle Rancourt on Jan 16, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Rivals is now reporting Kache Palacio has committed.

Link. I think it’s behind a pay wall.

I’ll wait for Scout to confirm. “Everybody was saying how much they were looking forward to playing for Mike Leach and I said I wanted to play for Mike Leach, too,” isn’t the same as “Yes, I’m committed to WSU.”

by Kyle Rancourt on Jan 16, 2012 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

I liked the analogy, but I'm sure you ended up marrying that girl, right?

No doubt that EVERY commit, solid, soft, or whatever, should not be counted on until the fax (does no one in NCAA athletic departments own a scanner?) comes in. See: Sankey, Bishop. You weren’t even a little mad about that one? I was.

I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.

by SpectreFCO on Jan 16, 2012 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

I wasn't mad

But I still hope he loses every game ever because he plays for Washington.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 16, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I guess I was more like all of our dads

I wasn’t as much mad as I was disappointed.

I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.

by SpectreFCO on Jan 16, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

How come?

Because they didn’t give any hint until signing day? Cleveland is being bitten by karma in the form of the long arm of the NCAA law, which will come down at some point. Hopefully with no mercy.

I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.

by SpectreFCO on Jan 16, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That's exactly why.

We knew Sankey was a soft verbal all along. I think it’s pretty terrible when someone — player or coach — pulls out at the last possible second.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 16, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It is hard to replace the person at the last second.

Kind of like giving a birdie to the previous team.

If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?

by well you win some and lose others on Jan 16, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

For the win!

I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.

by SpectreFCO on Jan 16, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

He left

because he didn’t like school and had to pay for a baby. He would have left even knowing he wouldn’t be drafted.

Thus the “pulling out” joke.

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by TiltingRight on Jan 16, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Not really.

It was pretty clear what Sankey was doing (leveraging us to a better offer). I was upset, but not at Sankey. I was upset we lost a really good player in general, and even more so that it was to a rival. I was more upset at the situation.

by Kyle Rancourt on Jan 16, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just on another WSU site and my head almost exploded.

Does anyone bother to get any facts before posting “news”? this includes writers and readers/posters. I like following recruiting but its sad how so many people find it better to get “news” first and fix it later than do it right.

Same with that ESPN writer who blabbed about the M’s not being able to sign Fielder then backed off it in about 2 seconds. Still got on ESPN, internet, radio…etc. Ridiculous.

by klokkins on Jan 16, 2012 2:35 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

I guess Kyle (the world traveler)

travels these sites to find out his web notoriety.

So it’s okay.

CougCenter OG since 9/2/2008 | @TheSoCalCoug

by SoCalCoug on Jan 16, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The fact these type of players are back is important in itself

The fact Mike Leach was able to convince Marks to come visit Pullman is good enough for me right now. Mike Leach has put players in the NFL. Recruits are fully aware of this and is a reason why they are looking at WSU now. Players want to be in a proven system. Leach has a proven system on offense and players want to be a part of it to get to the NFL. Because of that system, the recruits are starting to visit and these aren’t recruits who seriously would have considered WSU at any time since Doba’s early years (thanks Paul Wulff for rebuilding the team and giving Leach some talent to work with). Now they are coming again and hopefully every year he’ll land a couple 4 stars.

I really look forward to seeing next year’s recruiting class with a full year to scout and find players to fit their system. Leach’s first two classes will be a major building block of the future success at WSU.

I hope Leach convinces at least one 4 star to commit this year. I’m happy to hear Alex Jackson is solid after his visit this weekend. I hope somehow Eldrenkamp decides to become a Cougar despite the strong family Husky following (mom and dad are UW grads).

by jeremyb91 on Jan 16, 2012 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

Don't count on your stars.

There is always that hidden gem.

If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?

by well you win some and lose others on Jan 16, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

No, but 3 stars are a must

Hidden gems are nice in the 2 star and/or unrated players, but if you want a solid BCS team, you need to consistently recruit 3 stars with a random 2 star hidden gem and a 4 star player.

by jeremyb91 on Jan 16, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Not all 2*'s are alike.

In fact, every one we get is an under-the-radar-prototypical-NFL-player at whatever his desired position. How dare you insinuate otherwise.

by klokkins on Jan 16, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm curious as to how much money they're spending on assistants next year

They’re already on the hook for roughly a million to the guys they fired. Now they’re giving 500k to a D-line coach? Good on ’em I guess, but damn. UW recruiting trending up. Cal? Not so much.

I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.

by SpectreFCO on Jan 16, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think the big in-state guys will waffle.

But I wouldn’t be surprised if Shaq Thompson and a couple others switched allegiances.

I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.

by SpectreFCO on Jan 16, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

That's gotta be messy

Especially for the interviewer.

I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.

by SpectreFCO on Jan 16, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah.

The Paul Wulff approach I see.

"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks

by Coug999 on Jan 16, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I really hope Endrenkamp comes to WSU.

Are the people who write for Cougfan actually Dawgs? Are they trying to sabotage us? Eldrenkamp would be a great get and great addition to the Coug Family.

CougCenter OG since 9/2/2008 | @TheSoCalCoug

by SoCalCoug on Jan 16, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

According to ESPN Robert Lewis is waiting on Oregon

He’s basically waiting to see if he can visit Oregon next weekend. If not, WSU is his leader with a last visit to Texas Tech. WSU is his leader if Oregon doesn’t offer.

by jeremyb91 on Jan 16, 2012 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

scout shows...

that Oregon already offered him?

by james_WSU on Jan 16, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

And it also shows ...

that Gabriel Marks is committed and up until recently didn’t have Maurice Bennett as a committed recruit even though he committed last summer. Scout seems to be the most inconsistent of the 3 sites, ESPN, Rivals, and Scout. ESPN seems to feed off of the coattails of the other two, while Rivals seems to be the most consistent.

He has a potential visit lined up for this weekend, but he’s waiting for the coach to call him. If he doesn’t call or says they have nothing for him, he’s going to be a Cougar. But its the dreaded wait and see approach hoping big name programs don’t poach at the last minute.

by jeremyb91 on Jan 17, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

"Rivals seems to be the most consistent."

I don’t mean to dismiss your entire post, but this is simply incorrect. The pecking order:

Scout
Rivals

ESPN

by Kyle Rancourt on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

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