WSU Vs. Cal: Faisal Aden Leads The Cougs Over Cal, 77-75
by Craig Powers on Jan 21, 2012 5:15 PM PST
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PrintYou have to love this new Faisal Aden.
Aden went straight to the basket time and time again and all but clinched the Pac-12 player of the week award with a 24-point performance. Faisal was efficient for the second straight game, scoring 24 points on about 19 uses.
The offense played excellent as a whole, putting up 1.12 points per possession on the conference's best defense. Brock Motum had a double-double with 15 points and 10 rebounds.
After trailing for most of the game, WSU took possession of the ball with the score tied at 74 and 47 seconds left to play. Freshman DaVonte Lacy came up huge, knocking down a three and drawing a foul to put WSU up 77-74 with 18 seconds remaining.
Jorge Gutierrez missed a three to tie the game, then missed a three that would have given Cal the win after a missed free throw. Gutierrez paced Cal with 19 points and 6 assists.
An exciting come-from-behind win for the second straight game. A weekend sweep of the two best teams in the conference. Some redemption for the team's most scrutinized individual. All around awesome weekend.
That's all I have for now. Too excited to type. GO COUGS!
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If you're a recruit and you don't want to go to Washington State after that...
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
What?
If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?
by well you win some and lose others on Jan 21, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
You're saying what?
You are the what of all whats.
by newportcoug on Jan 21, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I just do not get it.
Why would recruits care about a basketball game when they are playing football?
If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?
by well you win some and lose others on Jan 21, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
Darn!
If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?
by well you win some and lose others on Jan 21, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
They left right after halftime anyways
by WinOrLoseWeStillBooze on Jan 21, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
There was a few of them in the stands after the half
Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 21, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
Were they trying to beat the line at Sellas?
Why would they leave early? Must have a agenda to follow. Maybe meeting with the coaching staff.
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Oh my gosh. So exciting to be at that one!
Although I must say, that was easily the worst officiated game I have seen all year and maybe ever. The refs just could not get anything right. I mean, you expect the refs to be iffy on foul calling; it’s a very subjective art. But, when they blatantly miss out of bounds calls??? Even one was missed in favor of the Cougs…
I heard one time that the Cougars played a game where the refs were good
I know … I don’t believe it either
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
by HitKing69 on Jan 21, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It was a typical random Pac-12 reffing performance, so you get stuff like this:
First half fouls:
Cal: 3
WSU: 6
Second half fouls:
Cal: 12
WSU: 11
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
Cougs have won 10 straight at Beasley
NO MORE GAMES IN SPOKANE.
Or Seattle?
If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?
by well you win some and lose others on Jan 21, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
NO MORE ROAD GAMES PERIOD!
YOU COME TO US, PAC-12!
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
by Coug999 on Jan 21, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 10 recs
THIS.
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by Craig Powers on Jan 21, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
Not to be the buzzkill but...
we had almost 10K and then 9K for our two Spokane games. We had about 3K and 6K for these games…just saying.
Pullman games are the best, but we need to get people in the seats. For some reason I think Q Johnson will be the guy to do that.
There wasn't 6" of slush to get to Spokane Arena in December
by Aaron Whiteman on Jan 21, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
6k today? I haven't een the posted attendance but it didn't seem like that many
Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.
I know, I was there
I think that you can have squeezed everyone into the lower bowl if you had to.
Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.
5,013 according to the official stats.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
That seems really, really low...
The upper bowl was stuffed on the student side and the Alumni side had quite a few fans up there
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 21, 2012 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
No it wasn't. There was less people in the upper level on the alumni side than there were empty seats down low.
Can’t speak to the student side, but 5k seems about right to me, and is a fairly decent crowd considering the circumstances.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
That is why I said quite a few fans
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 21, 2012 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
But, don't forget that students don't pay for tickets either...
Weather was bad this week for sure, thought we’d see more for the game today with the win over Stanford. I like the games in Spokane, that’s where we have the best chance to grow season ticket sales.
There’s tons of students in Spokane, why can’t we sell some student/general admission tickets and have a smaller student section for those games?
Students sounded loud for both games this week, loved hearing it on the radio/webcast!
They actually let students in for free in Spokane if you had a sports pass.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
Did they not show in mass?
The crowds for those games weren’t terribly loud, even a small student section would probably help get other people into it.
The student section at the Seattle game was packed
just quite
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 21, 2012 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
If you bought a sports pass, you could use it to get in
Technically, that is not free.
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Right, but look at how much a sports pass is per game versus actual tickets.
WSU doesn’t make much off of sports passes. No school does, which is why you see places like USC and uw move their students to the end zones then sell their old seats for big bucks.
I'm not disputing the value of a sports pass
I definitely get my money’s worth.
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You get a free Sports Pass???
I’m a grad student and I pay $175 for mine.
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Smaller Student Sections?
Are you insane?
by 509cougs on Jan 21, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You didn't notice all the empty seats in the lower bowl??
Even if fans are up there there was still a lot of orange below
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That is about what I guesstimated
I was thinking in the 4,500 range.
Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.
If anybody in the Spokane/Pullman area watches the news tonight
and sees a guy (Cougar basketball sweatshirt, Cougar beanie) being interviewed about Mike Leach and his halftime talk, can you let me know which channel it is on.
Thanks.
"It doesn't matter what you do, be it the butcher, the baker, or the candlestick maker, be excited about what you do." - Coach Mike Leach
Sure.
Who was the guy sitting next to Leach with face paint and the Cougar cape that walked out on the court with him at halftime?
He was a year ahead of me in HS,
His name is Austin.
They came and grabbed him with 5 minutes left in the first half
he was right in front of me, and it was cool
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 21, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
It is your friend, right?
If My Life Is Great, Why Am I Not Happy?
by well you win some and lose others on Jan 21, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Me, actually
"It doesn't matter what you do, be it the butcher, the baker, or the candlestick maker, be excited about what you do." - Coach Mike Leach
That's my only guess
"It doesn't matter what you do, be it the butcher, the baker, or the candlestick maker, be excited about what you do." - Coach Mike Leach
They seem to have the best presence at Cougar events
Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.
I watched their 5:00 news
and they said that they would most likely have the highlights at the 6:00 news so hopefully that’s it. I can’t believe I didn’t ask the lady haha.
"It doesn't matter what you do, be it the butcher, the baker, or the candlestick maker, be excited about what you do." - Coach Mike Leach
No wait, that was KREM 2...
"It doesn't matter what you do, be it the butcher, the baker, or the candlestick maker, be excited about what you do." - Coach Mike Leach
The rebound after Gutierrez three to tie the game when Motum was falling
2 refs had a foul and one had travel, but they gave them the travel. I didn’t see either a travel or foul on the replay.
I saw a travel because of a foul.
That was definitely some (ahem) questionable officiating. Hard to complain when you win though. What I found funny was that Mount Montgomery was about to erupt all game even though they were getting the calls.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
I said it Thursday
As much as I’ve hated on Faisal Aden, he is the main reason why the Cougs were able to sweep this weekend. Gotta give some props to Abe as well. His 12 points were absolutely HUGE.
You know, once I was thinking about quitting when I was diagnosed with brain, lung and testicular cancer, all at the same time. But with the love and support of my friends and family, I got back on the bike and I won the Tour de France five times in a row. But I'm sure you have a good reason to quit. So what are you dying from that's keeping you from the finals? - Lance Armstrong
didn't see this game...
…but if you are saying we won because of Faisal and Abe then everything I know about basketball and the world is wrong. /sighs
by Pman on Jan 21, 2012 8:31 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
That is exactly what happened
Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 21, 2012 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
I was looking like a fool with my pants on the ground
after Lacy hit that three
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 21, 2012 5:46 PM PST reply actions
I was looking like a fool with my pant swinging around my head.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
That would be a student section move.
Everyone wears long johns or shorts and removes their pants for close games/wins.
I had this conversation with myself the other day
I made the determination to proofread every post I read. I have gotten much better.
Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.
I've been meaning to compliment you
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
Why wood any one proof read before posting?
by Samsinite on Jan 21, 2012 9:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Or pants over pants over pants over pants.
Just so we could remove them over and over and over and over.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
From CGB game thread
Also, I have to say, having attended a game there during our conference title run in 2010, Beasley Coliseum has to be the scariest place to be an away team in the Pac-12. The student section is massive and deranged.
by iheartmonty on Jan 21, 2012 3:03 PM PST reply loading… Story-flag Flag 1
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 21, 2012 5:49 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
I think the angry wheat farmers have a part in making Beasley scary also
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I would say I need to eat crow with Aden
but he is playing a really different game now. No 3s and getting to line. That was not his game, but I like the change. Did Bone have a sit down with him or what? I wonder what happened? If he wasn’t doing all this the old Aden way I would eat crow.
CougCenter OG since 9/2/2008 | @TheSoCalCoug
Still some work to be done though.
There was quite a few times that I noticed he lost his man on D. Led to a lot of open threes. He was still a net positive though.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
Yes. Defense still leaves something to be desired.
But, as you alluded to, when he is this efficient on offense he can make up for it.
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by Craig Powers on Jan 21, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
I was skeptical that there was change after Stanford.
But he is definitely attacking the basket more. Not settling for fadeaways or contested threes.
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by Craig Powers on Jan 21, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
No reverse layups either (that I remember)
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
He had one early on in the game.
Also had one where he had his back to the basket and laid it in.
What’s with the dislike for the reverse layups? If they go in, they go in. The cougars had 5 or 6 reverse layups this entire game.
Seems like he goes for them a lot when they aren't really needed.
With how good of a free throw shooter he is, go up strong and take the foul.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
by Coug999 on Jan 21, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
To be clear, I'm not dismissing the reverse layup.
But he isn’t taking as many of them which I see as a good thing.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
I think there is a difference
His layups were more back door layups tonight. The ones we are complaining about are when he leaves his feet on one side then tries to go under the basket and flip it in.
by WazzuCrew11 on Jan 21, 2012 6:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
You are refering to second clutch type shots I assume.
Ones where he goes up and then brings the ball back down only to attempt a weaker shot on the other side of the basket. Right?
O ya, J.D. Nusser please do not watch or listen to any more games the rest of the year.
We are on a roll, lets keep it going.
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He listened to the last 2 minutes.
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by Craig Powers on Jan 21, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
So I take it
Fasial likes making baskets again?
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I'm interested to see how his new found basket making this weekend has affected his basket making.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
He's moved away from his little mico operation and gone into mass production
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I want to apologize to everyone for the webcast
It’s all my fault. I was drinking a diet coke at half and someone was eating Mentos. Needless to say, science happened and the internet exploded.
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"People ask me 'why Washington State'... 'Well that's a stupid question...'" - Mike Leach
by GoCougs on Jan 21, 2012 6:06 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
F*** YOU JEFF COLLIER.
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by Craig Powers on Jan 21, 2012 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
and while we're at it, F*** YOU KYLE RANCOURT
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
by Coug999 on Jan 21, 2012 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I like that one better
F*** YOU KYLE RANCOURT
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by GoCougs on Jan 21, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I am on my way to go get a Fohawk!!!
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by SoCalCoug on Jan 21, 2012 6:36 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I think the tension over who had the better hair led to the near fight between Guitierrez and Aden
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Sixer of Busch Light my ass......
It is all about the Cherry (or Vanilla) Burnett’s Vodka. It mixes so well with a coke from the concession stands (though, 3.75 for a soda is a bit much). Also, wow, our newer players give me all kinds of hope for the future.
by Something Snazzy on Jan 21, 2012 7:34 PM PST reply actions
Cherry bombs. Drop a shot of cherry vodka into sprit = Fun for all
Never met someone who didn’t like them. The last couple times I brought a bottle of it to a party it was gone in half an hour.
This picture is awesome, especially Bone
"It doesn't matter what you do, be it the butcher, the baker, or the candlestick maker, be excited about what you do." - Coach Mike Leach
by tclaus on Jan 21, 2012 7:50 PM PST reply actions 10 recs
Lacy's face is pretty good too
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 21, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
Drivin' the bus
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
by Coug999 on Jan 21, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
The best part about this is that Gutierrez committed the foul.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
Tim Marrion is stone faced.
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by Craig Powers on Jan 21, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
Jorge is also raising the roof
What a good sport
"It doesn't matter what you do, be it the butcher, the baker, or the candlestick maker, be excited about what you do." - Coach Mike Leach
by tclaus on Jan 21, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Highlights!
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
by Coug999 on Jan 21, 2012 8:17 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Why does Devonte Lacy have trouble dribbling?
Seems to lose the ball a lot by just losing a handle on it.
Really not sure
He’s got good handles — made his living in high school going to the rim. Perhaps he’s having a hard time with the strength of the players at this level.
It looks like he is rushing things on the court
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 22, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
I'm confident 2012-13 will see a much improved Davonte Lacy
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After watching him in HS
I honestly thought he’d have to add a solid 3-point shot later to become a good Pac-12 player. That he’s already got that, and he just needs to be a bit more solid to the rim, has me completely excited.
There is no doubt all the tools are there
I would still like to see him consistently knock down 3’s for a few more games before I say, “Yeah, he has added the three ball.” But, no doubt that he has stepped it up since conference ball started. As far as attacking he rim, there have been glimpses of his ability to do that. He needs that dynamic to his game.
You know Bone is going to sit down with him at the end of the season and tell him, “Next year, we need X,Y, and Z from you.” I think the expereince from this season culminated with the work to improve those things next year are going to make next season a memorable one.
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You are aware that he's taken 90 3s and hit 38 percent of them, right?
Whatever he needed to prove from out there, he’s proven it.
You are right about pointing out that the overall pcture looks good
But he has padded that stat big time in PAC12 play, which is what I was pointing out. Check out the splits:
First 10 games 14-42 29.8%
Non conference Total 19-58 32.7%
PAC 12: 15- 32 46.9%
He has been hot over the course of 7 PAC12 games, I’m still interested to see where that average will be over the next 7-10 games.
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Just give me until after the next homestand
I suspected the slower start was from confidence and “freshman jitters.” You seem to have changed your mind from the 12/14 issue of CSW where you write
If there was one thing I’d complain about with Lacy so far, this is it. Remember that great two-point percentage I told you about? He’s actually only taken 21 twos. He has, however, taken 47 threes — far and away the MOST on the team! Predictably, he’s only hitting on 30 percent of those — far too low for someone taking as many shots from out there as he is.
Now 43 shots later, you have changed your mind. But, to your credit, you pretty much foresaw the turnaround
His stroke looks fairly consistent, and I’m confident this is eventually going to become a formidable part of his game. But right now? There’s no way he should be shooting more than twice as many threes as twos.
I think we can agree that things are looking up and we are going in the right direction. I just want to see the pattern over the next few games. I also agree that in spite of his recent success, he needs to shoot more twos.
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You are correct
After seeing him in high school, and seeing his slow shooting start, I felt like he was taking far too few 2s. To some degree, I still do. But it’s pretty undeniable at this point that he’s a capable three-point shooter.
My main concern is always shot selection. And he’s not forcing them, even if I feel like he sometimes settles. So I guess I’m cool with it, even if begrudgingly.
by Jeff Nusser on Jan 22, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
Prepare to have your mind blown:
WSU>Cal>Georgia>Tennessee>UCONN>Notre Dame>Syracuse who until today was #1, therefore by the transitive property WSU should be voted the new number 1 on Monday.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
Man, those chains are fun to make
I’ll bet some weak team that beat UC Riverside is saying, “Hey, what about us?”
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I actually looked.
Couldn’t get anywhere with it though.
"Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can!" | Herb Brooks
I posted one in the last thread about how Gardner-Webb is king of the Pac-12
I promise, I picked G-W at random. I think teams are well-connected enough now so that practically any chain is possible. I bet in another two weeks any team in the country could have a transitive #1.
Gardner-Webb>Chattanooga>Wofford>Charleston>UMass>Utah>WSU>Cal. G-W is king of the Pac-12!
And by extension… G-W>Chattanooga>Wofford>Charleston>UMass>Utah>WSU>Cal>Georgia>Tenn>UCONN>ND>Syracuse
by johnnycougar on Jan 21, 2012 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
You are totally smarter than Iam
I was trying to trace one through the UC Riverside loss, I forgot that Utah had some shabby losses too. I have a chain that included Eastern WA, Dartmouth with the final team being South Carolina Upstate 1almsot 20 links away. But when I was making mine, I came across some of those teams so I could have gone down the same path.
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Maybe I just have more free time!
I think the key is to find those relatively rare games where an East Coast team plays a West Coast team. It normally isn’t such a big deal because the top teams across the country beat up on each other all the time, but this year the Pac-12 is really down and the Mountain West isn’t much better.
Man, a 20 linker would be epic. I ran across SC Upstate a couple times for mine but couldn’t make it work.
by johnnycougar on Jan 21, 2012 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
The geography to doing it is what kinda makes it fun too
I went through about 5-6 links where I ended up with Utah Valley as my top team. They played a game against Maine and lost, so I got over to the east coast for the rest of my teams.
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On Golden Blogs, Cal fans were complaing iwth how little their bench used
Our bench played 64 minutes and theirs only played 29. I think if Bone continues to bring Aden in off the bench all year, then we will outscore our opponents bench consitently. Still, Aden and minutes aside, that does stand out. It also stands out that all of Cal’s starters were in double figures.
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Cal's bench really isn't good.
Their top four is as good as anyone’s in the conference, but it drops off fast. Really, really fast.
No place like Beasley
to watch a game with few thousand friends. Go Cougs
Sorry about the profanity but...
I love the Fucking Cougs!
Beasley was nuts tonight. That game was sweet.
"It doesn't matter if you win or lose, as long as you come in first."
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