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A Word About Jake Eldrenkamp And The Events Of Tuesday

I was really trying to stay away from a computer, and away from writing, for two days in what is my weekend, but this bothered me. I watched as plans came together to have Jake Eldrenkamp announce where he'll be playing his college ball come together, then almost immediately fall apart. And it's a damn shame.

Eldrenkamp planned to announce his decision on Dave "Softy" Mahler's show on Wednesday, but due to the backlash and whirlwind of speculation, he called everything off. Washington fans thought he was coming to Montlake, due to the venue, and Washington State fans thought the same. Yet I'd be willing to bet it didn't enter Eldrenkamp's mind when he made the decision to announce his choice on Softy's show.

Want to know how it all went down? It's pretty simple, and innocent, you see.

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Razore is an assistant at Bellevue. Mahler is a Bellevue alum, as well, making his show a pretty logical place for Eldrenkamp to announce his college choice. As an aside, Mahler also maintains Bellevue reached out to him, as an alum, before the exchange took place. It really doesn't matter how the whole deal came about, anyway.

Star-divide

Consider that Eldrenkamp, who saw his recruiting interest pickup late and was overshadowed by other highly-touted in-state prospects throughout the process, wanted his moment. Remember this is a lineman, a guy you probably won't hear from, and who won't have the spotlight, for the next four or five years -- unless he screws up. Wherever he goes, he'll toil in relative anonymity, appearing every once in a while in a feel-good feature about the hometown kid.

So he wanted to hop on the radio and have the spotlight for a moment. It doesn't matter if he announces on Softy's show, Ian Furness' or some public access channel in the middle of nowhere. Let the kid do what he wants and don't ruin this for him.

I get it: Everyone wants information now, and speculation runs rampant this time of year. But this next week is the absolute worst for an outside observer -- I'm fairly sure Ryan Divish, whom I'm using as an example because his recruiting tweets entertain me, would like to go hide until signing day, and I'm right there with him. The constant speculation, prodding of 18-year-old kids preparing to make the biggest decision of their lives, and fans trying to pull recruits one way or another is tough to watch.

Eldrenkamp is the latest example, but isn't the first and won't be the last. If he wants to announce on Softy's show, who cares? If he wants to scream his choice from the Bellevue rooftop, that's cool too. Let the kid have his one moment of glory on his terms, and don't spoil his fun. By all indications he's a good kid and he deserves this.

And while we're at it, stop messaging recruits using social media platforms. Be better than that. The last thing any of these kids need as they mull a huge life decision is even more hands in the kitchen, trying to push and pull them in different directions.

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Excellent commentary

Especially the last paragraph.

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by SpectreFCO on Jan 24, 2012 4:15 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Agreed.

Especially with the social media stuff. Bombarding their twitter and facebook accounts with “COME TO WAZZU!!! YOU’LL REGRET IT IF YOU DON’T!!!!” and the like, is probably doing more harm then good. We have entrusted Leach to be our salesman and spokesperson, let him do his job (I hear he’s pretty good at it).

by Bleezz on Jan 24, 2012 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

Its an NCAA violation for a booster to even follow or friend a PSA

Let alone talk to them about coming to their school

I miss *REAL* Four Loko

by B-Lot tailgater on Jan 24, 2012 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Would a booster be anyone that has donated to CAF?

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by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

Anyone who has ever donated ever. If you donated $50 in 1996, but haven’t donated or attended a game since, you’re still a booster. Once you donate, you’re a booster for life. You also fall into the booster category if you’ve ever bought season tickets.

by Kyle Rancourt on Jan 24, 2012 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more.

Even Husky fans agree!! Well, at least the grown up ones do!

Let the kid have his moment and LEAVE HIM ALONE.

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"

by Lear Pilot on Jan 24, 2012 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

Brian, I am sorry that I could only give your post 1 rec

This message of this post should be on all college sites.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

everyone should adhere to your last paragraph

We certainly don’t need any recruiting violations from this crap. Pretty much every WSU alumnus or fan can be considered a booster, and as such are barred from contact with prospects that can be in any way construed as encouraging them to attend WSU. Even via social media.

by Blackie1829 on Jan 24, 2012 4:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

"Pretty much every WSU alumnus or fan can be considered a booster"

Not true. A booster is someone who has either donated money to the athletic fund or purchased season tickets.

by Kyle Rancourt on Jan 24, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

sorta

Note I carefully used the word “can” rather than “is” in my comment.

Under the NCAA bylaws definition of a booster, the phrase “Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution’s athletics program” can be construed with a ridiculously broad definition.

The bottom line is it is best for WSU if our fans comppletely avoid contact with recruits.

by Blackie1829 on Jan 24, 2012 5:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think that was meant as a set up to a joke

There really isn’t anything funny about this crap.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

*cough* UCLA *cough*

"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."

by kelly20210 on Jan 24, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I was absolutely sick when I saw Lawler's twitter account yesterday

I have so much pride in our school and to see people doing and saying that stuff that are connected to WSU made me sick abour our fanbase and college sports in general. Brian’s post and the comments have made me feel better because I realize that it is just a few douches and tha the majority see how morally bankrupt that garbage is.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

No recruit should get tweeted or facebooked period

If he makes his decsion based on who gives him the most tweets, then to heck with him. He is engaging in adolescent behavior and you guys are playing along. Grow up. Brian can correct me with I am wrong, but I think the jist of this post is that all that garbage is just that garbage. Let him make the decision that is best for his family. He was put on earth to do more than just entertain you for four years. If he wants to base that decision based on tweets, then maybe there are better options for us.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

/post fail

But what I meant to say was, the kid is a kid. He doesn’t have to grow up. He’s allowed to enjoy his experience.

When I was deciding which college to attend you can be damn sure I had people from the UW and WSU sides telling me which way to go. And guess what? It was fun. They focused on what makes there schools great from the perspective that I was a kid and I should enjoy myself. Sure academics came up, but for a whole lot of kids out there, that isn’t the end all denominator. Lucky for me, I made the right decision.

Point is, high schoolers screw around on twitter and facebook. He’s having adolescent fun because….he’s an adolescent! If you don’t agree with it, fine, but you’ve got to realize this is the way teenagers interact these days. Deriding his actions so negatively just isn’t warranted in my opinion. At most, follow Kyle’s decree- these recruit decision stories are non-stories. Ignore ’em!

Thizz or die.

by mjkleko on Jan 24, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not telling him to grow up

Yeah, I know he is 17-18 years old. I am telling the people that engage with him in that way to grow up and stop playing at his level. That is pretty clear in my post that I am addressing those “playing along with him” if you read it. If he wants to be tweeted in, then he should be on American Idol or Dancing with the Stars. His only concern should be the information he has from the coaches and those that will be his potential teamates. Again, if the jist of Brian’s post was “tweet only those who want to be tweeted” then I apolgize. But seeing that the FanShot with a link to Lawler’s Twitter page was taken down, I don’t think that was the position of CougCenter. Not surprisingly, there has been a host of irregular posters like MegaCoug who comes in with his first post to defend the tweets.

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by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

You realize

that you can have an opinion different from Brian Floyd or CougCenter, right? It doesn’t seem you do, given that you are willing to apologize if Brian was saying “tweet only those who want to be tweeted,” but otherwise, you’re adamant that nobody should ever say anything to a recruit on Twitter.

Yes, you should follow another Coug-related account on Twitter: @425CougFan

by Fractal on Jan 24, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

You know, it kind of has to do with the issue

Brian’s statement is an ethical statement that is right on point. It’s not like we are debating pass coverages or play calling. We are dealing with the way that people who are supposed to be adults are behaving towards barely if not not yet persons of legal age. It’s kind of a black and white issue and if you don’t see the ethics to it, then that is a problem in itself.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

Makes sense. For what it’s worth, I wish nobody interacted with recruits on Twitter at all. That said, when a recruit is asking for attention, followers, etc. on social media — i.e., literally requesting it — it’s tough not to reply when you see fans of other schools doing it, lest the recruit think WSU’s fans simply don’t care. When I see some people tweeting at recruits, though, I cringe at what they write (they’re not attacking the recruit, but they’re just acting like morons).

If I had my way, nobody at all would have any interaction with recruits at all except for legit members of the media who weren’t trying to steer the recruits to particular schools.

Yes, you should follow another Coug-related account on Twitter: @425CougFan

by Fractal on Jan 24, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Well when somebody is requesting attention like that, consider it a red flag

Don’t you think?

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by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll say this

If I considered every girls a red flag that wanted attention then I would probably never have had a girlfriend. Maybe his is just and attention whore.

by WazzuCrew11 on Jan 24, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

So you dig attention whores?

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by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

No

I was more trying to be funny then anything else. However some people just need attention (Mainly Women).

by WazzuCrew11 on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I got the humor, it was good

But it kind of helped me make my point if you know what I mean.

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by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

True

But we all have put up with more then we can handle if it was good enough…if you know what I mean.

by WazzuCrew11 on Jan 24, 2012 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

But Leach will lay the Smack-down and he will listen or he gets the Shed again! If only this worked in the other situation.

by WazzuCrew11 on Jan 24, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

For a while there,

I thought this entire thread was PullManiac talking to him self….

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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 25, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Not necessarily

It’s not what I would do in their position, but these guys are 17-18 years old and have different backgrounds. In the case I’m thinking of, in particular, the recruit’s dad is president of a firm that appears to basically promote recruits through social media (and presumably, other means) to try to generate attention and excitement about them, with the end goal being to get those recruits scholarship offers and media buzz. The dad posts on Facebook and Twitter about his son, and his firm’s other clients, and exhorts people to reply with reactions, support for their school, and so on. His son uses similar methods on Twitter, asking people to follow his friends, etc. In that case, do I think the kid’s actions pose any kind of red flag? No. He’s just having some fun with his recruitment and enjoying being in the spotlight.

Yes, you should follow another Coug-related account on Twitter: @425CougFan

by Fractal on Jan 24, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Not everything is black and white.

The situation with Eldrenkamp is incredibly disappointing, as is any posts, on this site or others, attacking recruits for whatever reason people come up with.

The whole purpose of social media is TO BE SOCIAL. Every school out there is going to encourage these kids seeking advice on where to go to school, to not only play football and “entertain us,” but also to receive an education. Many tweets directed at Lawler have pointed to the quality of our communications program, and how some of the tweeters have gone on to success after receiving an education from the college.

The thing is, we’re going to look bad when we rip on a kid like what happened to Bishop Sankey last year, and what was starting to happen to Eldrenkamp today. But we’re also going to look like fools with our heads in the sand if we aren’t going to tweet support for our school when a highly touted recruit is asking us to.

In my defense, I’ve only tweeted #GoCougs at two recruits, both asking for Coug fans to show some love. Go ahead and think you’re better than that if you want, but this is a new reality in recruiting, and there’s far worse going on.

by MegaCoug on Jan 24, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry if I come off condescending

Maybe it is my age since I am 3old-enough-to-know-better. I do seem to be forgetting that many of the tweeters are “peers” or persons of similar age to the recruit. This kind of reflects though to waht I say in a post below because you and WazzuCrew11 raised very similar objections to my point. I just think that people directly connected from the football program are the only ones that he needs to hear from or should want to hear from. They have all the information he needs to know. Not just Lawler any player. (read my post below where I explain this a little better.)

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not saying all tweeting is appropriate.

I wouldn’t tweet a recruit out of the blue, and I definitely wouldn’t bad mouth any recruit in a tweet (even those that pledge purple). I rarely tweet as it is, but I wouldn’t approach the kid on my own. I would like it if people were to not approach recruits on twitter, but I think the most I can hope for is for them to not be stupid with their tweets. I have seen some pretty bad ones.

But I think in the instance that a player is actively seeking feedback from the fan bases, that there is no harm in participating. These players sometimes want that feedback, and are just trying to enjoy the process.

You might believe that you’re old enough to know better, but you’re being incredibly naive on this stance. Every other school out there is going to do it, just like every other school is going to poach commits from other, “less desirable” schools. If we aren’t going to play that game, we’re simply holding ourselves back, pretending to take the higher road.

by MegaCoug on Jan 25, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I really think it depends on who is tweeting him

Think about an 18 year old kid potentially moving nowhere close to where any of his friends are going or knowing much about the area. What is a quick and easy way to find things out and interact with people your own age to figure out what is fun and cool about the place..Twitter. I agree with the idea that We as alumni that are not even close to this kids age should not be tweeting him or engaging back and forth but i see nothing wrong with kids his own age helping to influence him. Hell that is what half the recruiting trips are for, Even Leach acknowledged this at his half-time speech against Cal and realize that talking to coaches only go so far because there is much more to college for every athlete then just the sport that they play.

Personally I do not see anything wrong with tweeting the recruit he is the one out asking others about the school, now if it is the other way around I am 100% behind not interaction with the recruit.

by WazzuCrew11 on Jan 24, 2012 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, He must have a lot of questions. Who can help him?

I’d suggest that he talks to one of his potential teamates instead of you or me since hey understand what his expierence better than you or I do. And heck, I’ll bet one of those teamates are from SoCal and could probably relate their experience in Pullman and WSU just fine.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Who says that he hasn't

Maybe they didn’t relate to him, who knows. I can say that I have never tweeted or have a twitter account so maybe I am missing the boat on this, but this is the way a lot of people interact now, kinda sad in my opinion, but it is what it is. I remember the days of writing someone a letter, Licking the stamp was awesome but walking to the mailbox in the winter sucked.

by WazzuCrew11 on Jan 24, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Look, I scanned his twitter

If you can’t see what is going on there, then I don’t know what to tell you.

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by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah i haven't pay that much attention to this specific case

I was talking more in general and how I think interacting with students is fine if the recruit is asking things, but should be left alone if they are not.

by WazzuCrew11 on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

This cat makes Ochocinco look humble

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by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahh Gotcha

Well if that is the case then i would agree that it would come across as a concern. Leach won’t put up with that on the field so I think it wouldn’t be an issue or he will be gone.

by WazzuCrew11 on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Good read

It’s disgusting seeing Kenny Lawler’s page and how fans go on there and make comments that don’t need to be made. I’m sure I could go elsewhere and see it on other kids twitters.

I just hope we don’t see it get ugly on signing day because 17-18 year old kids don’t need the hassle of dealing with idiots sending mean comments via twitter for a decision that is going to dramatically alter someone’s life just because someone’s pissed they chose another school to play football for.

by jeremyb91 on Jan 24, 2012 5:18 PM PST reply actions  

agreed

Same thing with the youtube highlight vids. I see a lot of posts on there to try and persuade players. Leave em alone and let em’ make their decision. Whatever they choose wish em’ the best and regardless at the end of the day we can all agree on one thing, GO COUGS

by Outlaw21 on Jan 24, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Every kid should be allowed to relish in the spotlight they receive at this time in their life.

My only problem is when someone like Eldrenkamp announces he’s going on the radio to announce and everyone feels terrible when people say anything about it. Yet, absolutely hammer someone like Russell for the way he made his announcement.

I said it in a previous post, but I think Eldrenkamp let himself get talked into this and then realized the attention it was bringing and decided not to. That is clearly a difference between him, Russell, and Lawler (this dude needs 500 followers and if you don’t help I won’t like your school!!) in that Eldrenkamp canceled his radio announcement.

I hate that the way fans ruin the process for these players. It’s just a shame. This is the first time I’ve used Twitter during recruiting season and I’m incredibly disgusted and saddened by what I see on there. Some players bring it on themselves more than others but we, as adults, need to just grow up. If we didn’t care, didn’t follow these players, didn’t comment on their every move then they just flat wouldn’t do it. At this point I guess it is what it is, WSU is running with the big dogs now and some of this is what comes along with it. The Big Sky never made a big fuss when we stole their recruits.

Guess this is just what happens when you lose your innocence.

by klokkins on Jan 24, 2012 7:11 PM PST reply actions  

I admire your last sentence there..

And I think your sentiment, for the most part, is dead on. I find it a little unnerving when people chastize a young person for going on twitter/facebook and stirring up some interest or what have you about his recruitment. For a lot of these kids, they’ve worked hard to get the adulation and accolades they’re receiving and should hardly be told they’re wrong for doing so.

Unless you’re Yuri Wright.

If you’ve talked to high schoolers, you know that a lot of what they say doesn’t necessarily go through the filter that we develop as we get older. That’s why I find it ludicrous when people post saying that they should either be restricted from posting on twitter or that they should grow up. For one, this just isn’t realistic- for every 5 star recruit getting crazy social media attention, there are a dozen unheralded 2 stars that will go onto much better collegiate careers. Take away the top guys twitter rights and you’ve got to do the same down the line, and frankly, who the heck is going to manage that?

It’s the individuals who hide behind the virtual anonymity the internet provides and harangue insults or provocations. These are the men and women who should be chastised, not the kids enjoying their time.

Thizz or die.

by mjkleko on Jan 24, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

excellent post

you almost earned a ‘me happy’ pix

It is not the size of the gift that demonstrate support…it’s the action of joining.

by woolybugger on Jan 24, 2012 8:35 PM PST reply actions  

Me happy???

Me sad this stuff is going on. Keep the me happy handy for Thursday and Saturday. You’ll need it, at least one of those day.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

the content of the post was great, that almost earned the me happy.

Not the events that lead up to Brian deciding to write the post.

My fav day of the off season in the day after LOI day. ‘We’ spend way too much time and energy trying to figure out what a 17 – 18 year old kid is going to do. Way too many people take the process way to seriously. Hello world, the 17-18 year old kid isn’t a clone of you, he won’t necessarily make the same decision you will. Let him make the choice he feels is best for him and be happy for him.

I think I said ‘way’ way too many times.

It is not the size of the gift that demonstrate support…it’s the action of joining.

by woolybugger on Jan 24, 2012 8:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It's cool, I understood your intent

And way is a perfectly appropriate adverb when talking about how people take things to extreme given its meaning as an adverb is to take things far.

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by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Can someone breadcrumb me through what the big deal was?

Kid said he was announcing on Softy’s show. So everyone made the educated guess that he was picking UW.

I’m assuming I’m missing something, because that doesn’t seem like enough to cancel it.

I haven’t made my way that far around th net today, but every Coug I saw talking about it wished him well and understood its hard to out-recruit the hometown school for a kid whose parents are both Huskies.

by BigWood! on Jan 24, 2012 9:05 PM PST reply actions  

I think there were a few people who were saying things like

“No don’t pick UW!” and “You’re making the wrong choice” but then deleted the tweets after the whole thing was cancelled. The weirdest part is Jake doesn’t even have his own twitter account, so he has to be getting the info from someone else. But I agree with you. What I said, and what many others said, was simply “Well, he’s going to UW. Sucks, but I don’t blame the kid. Good luck.” I’m not sure why that’s reason to cancel. The only thing I can think of is maybe he wanted to commit to WSU, and didn’t want it to seem like he was being a jerk about it by announcing on a UW station after a bunch of people said how legendary it would make him by sticking it to Softy and UW.

by Kyle Rancourt on Jan 24, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for this

I was felt like i was missing the whole story or something because i really didn’t get it.

by WazzuCrew11 on Jan 24, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess that was what I was asking

They said he pulled his announcement due to “backlash” but I didn’t see any of that. Just people making the (correct)assumption that he was going to UW.

I was wondering if I missed any actual “backlash”

by BigWood! on Jan 24, 2012 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm guessing he heard an old Softy interview

and thought to himself “I’d rather jam a fork in my eyeball than talk to that doofus. Nevermind, I’m out”.

by coug2828 on Jan 24, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If he did pick WSU on a UW station

I have 100% confidence he wouldn’t be doing it with a malicious intent. I think he was worried people might think he was trying to be a jerk or something. It’s unfortunate, because I honestly think he just wanted to be able to announce his intentions with a bunch of people listening.

by Kyle Rancourt on Jan 24, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

rec'd for using Angela Fletcher as a verb

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by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I just caught that too

It’s Angela Landbury and Jessica Fletcher. Ok, well you still get a rec for an 80’s reference. It’s just been too long.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He committed to UW.

As expected. Per Worthen twitter. I guess I missed all the drama earlier but it doesn’t seem like a stretch to assume he was going UW if he was announcing in a UW radio show.

by 907coug on Jan 24, 2012 9:41 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

So here's where I stop feeling bad for the kid

Why tell Worthen “I don’t know why everyone thinks I’m picking UW just because I’m going on Softy” when in fact that’s exactly what he was doing?

by BigWood! on Jan 24, 2012 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It was almost like he wanted to help with the ratings.

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by PullManiac on Jan 24, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah me too

If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.

by hollyweirdcoug on Jan 25, 2012 1:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Only comment: Beginning to border on ludicrous? We are so far past that its not even funny

Check out a place like the ESS-EEE-SEE or Texas and it’s been ludicrous for decades.

by klokkins on Jan 25, 2012 5:14 AM PST up reply actions  

That...was...awesome

I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum.

by SpectreFCO on Jan 25, 2012 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Beautifully articulated

If I were I psychologist, I think I would like to do a thesis on the “obsession with potential.” That is a brilliant concept that is certainly always true in the sports world and often in life too.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 25, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

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