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A Re-evaluation: QB Austin Apodaca

When Longmont, Colo. QB Austin Apodaca first committed to the Cougs, I wasn't overly impressed. I saw a ton of raw talent, but not a ton of good decision making. A big reason I didn't love Apodaca was simply that the videos on him were so poor in quality, that it was hard to be excited. Also, highlight tapes are designed to make the kid standout and look fantastic.

Recently, Apodaca released his senior highlight tape. At over 10 minutes in length, it does a wonderful job at breaking down his throws on the run, from in the pocket, and everything else you could want from a high school highlight video.

I've been sitting on this post for a few days now, but I was reminded I needed to do it when J.J. FeKI posted the FanShot about it. So thank you, kind sir.

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I love that the video breaks down exactly what type of throw he's making. You see his touch on a lot of the fades, you see his ridiculous arm strength on the slants, and you see his ability to make things happen with his feet on the scrambles. I didn't realize he was that athletic. He's not Michael Vick or anything, but he's definitely more mobile than I originally anticipated, and a legitimate threat to take off and run.

Much of my first evaluation was less about him, and more about our stable of QBs as it stands. I still believe in Cody Clements, reports be damned. I think what Apodaca brings is a mixture of everything we have currently. Jeff Tuel understands how to throw the fade, and he makes smart throws. Connor Halliday has a cannon for an arm, and can fit balls into tight windows. Clements has the ability to make things happen with his feet, and turn a loss into a gain. Apodaca has all of these, and he has them in spades.

What I loved about this video is how, when he was being pressured, Apodaca keeps his eyes down field the entire time. He realizes he can tuck it and run for a few yards, but he is patient and waits for a receiver to get open. Another thing I loved that is pretty rare to see: during scrambling, he stops to plant before throwing. Now, this didn't happen on every play. There's simply not time to do this on every play. He possesses enough arm strength to make a throw from an awkward angle on the run and still get it there with plenty of zip. I really loved how he realized he needed a little more on it, though, stopped, set his feet, and chucked it down field.

I still think there are a few things he needs to work on, but it's a huge improvement from what I saw in his junior tape. His throwing motion is a little wonky at times, and it comes out at three quarters or even sidearm. It's not necessarily a problem -- look at Philip Rivers -- but the ball is more prone to getting batted down at the line if it's coming out at a lower angle. He doesn't do it all the time, though.

Another thing I noticed was his wind-up was a little long and loopy on some throws. Reminded me of Tim Tebow or Byron Leftwich coming out of college. Shorten that up, and he'll be fine. Again, he doesn't do this all the time.

The best part about the negative things (if you can even call them negative) that I saw this time? They're all easily correctable. I still think he redshirts if for no other reason than to create separation between himself and Halliday, but at this point, I'm ok with admitting I was wrong before.

As much as I loved Clements last year, I think Apodaca surpasses him on the depth chart. The key to the Air Raid is accuracy on short passes. Clements did that well, but Apodaca just put on an absolute show. Apodaca's most impressive skill -- yes, even more so than his arm strength -- was his ability to always hit his receiver squarely in the numbers or in stride. His ability to place the ball exactly where it needs to be in order for the receiver to turn it up field and make guys miss is key.

If he can improve that much from his junior to senior years in high school, I'm excited to see what he'll do after a few years under the tutelage of Mike Leach.

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Yea,

I remember seeing his junior video and getting pretty excited. His video reminded me of Tuel’s video coming out of high school in that it screamed potential. Apodaca’s new video shows off his arm strength a lot and he still has a lot of zip on the ball even when running from pressure. I see a lot of passing yards in his future haha.

by james_WSU on Jan 25, 2012 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

Nice article Kyle

Glad to get any news while I’m waiting “salivating” for spring ball. At least there’s signing day coming up. I should be able to make it until then.

by Cougar_Jeff on Jan 25, 2012 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

Love the video and I see lots of potential

But I am worried he might get buried in the depth chart. Tuel has one more season. I expect Apodaca to redshirt. Halliday has 3 seasons left, correct? I have a feeling that Leach is going to go find a stud of a QB for the next recruiting class (possibly Max Browne? I hear Leach is already visiting Skyline) and I fully expect a 4 or possibly even 5 star QB. Apodaca better work his butt off because I want to see him succeed and be a starter eventually.

by WinOrLoseCougsBooze on Jan 25, 2012 2:45 PM PST reply actions  

I wouldn't fully expect any 4 or 5 star players.

I’m not saying it won’t happen, but when people start expecting 5 stars, that’s when they become insufferable UW fans.

As for Halliday, he’ll be a RS Soph in 2012, which means if Apodaca redshirts, Halliday will be a RS Jr when Apodaca is a RS Freshman. 2013 & 2014 are probably Halliday’s to lose, but I think Apodaca has as good a chance as anyone from there on out.

I wouldn’t worry about future QBs that may or may not be coming to WSU. Let’s just deal with the kids we have now.

by Kyle Rancourt on Jan 25, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Having the quarterback situation spoken for through 2014 makes it easier to write this:
I wouldn’t worry about future QBs that may or may not be coming to WSU. Let’s just deal with the kids we have now.

Doesn’t it?

"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."

by kelly20210 on Jan 25, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Depth has been known to come in handy at times too

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 25, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I would not be surprised to see Halliday become #1 in 2012

Halliday has a game time swagger I haven’t seen since Leaf or Guesser days. I like Tuel too, but I feel there is more upside with Halliday in 2012. It’s an intangible that our great ones have had – besides staying in the game with a cut liver, he’s got a serious intensity about making the play. Tuel will always be a better runner but it’s the passing capability that impresses me. But, we’ll see how it shapes up by Fall.

As far as Austin goes, the thing I see is a habitual three/four step drop, even though he’s in the gun. Takes time away from pulling the trigger – it’s one of those high school things. To be really good in D1, he needs read and then get rid of the ball in about half the time he’s holding it now on those short/medium passes.

by TheOriginalCougMan on Jan 25, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking the same on Austin

He can certainly improve his ability to throw on the run and adjust to making quicker throws, all in good time.
What does concern me is his release point, outside of Philip Rivers, sling throwers tend to have difficulties with the same side throws (right handed, right sideline), I think you see that a few times on the fade routes. Still young enough to learn how to get that elbow up and work on his technique.
Obviously in high school you don’t have as much 1 on1 with your WRs and he looked to under throw them a bit, drills under Leach should fix that

by Wazzu_Hondo on Jan 25, 2012 8:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Halliday wasn't very good against Utah either.

"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."

by kelly20210 on Jan 26, 2012 1:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention

he was pretty lights out while playing with extremely significant injuries. That said Tuel has a huge advantage being healthy all off season and for spring ball.

by Cougars Hunt and Kill on Jan 26, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I must have missed all of those plays last season where Clements turned losses into gains with his feet

by CougStar1234 on Jan 25, 2012 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

Please use the subject line.

When I was talking about Clements turning losses into gains with his feet, I was referring to his HS tape. I felt like it was pretty obvious that he didn’t play this year while redshirting, and that any evaluation was from HS tape or practice.

Also, being snarky for no reason isn’t necessary.

by Kyle Rancourt on Jan 25, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Ooops

I was just giving you crap about Clements lack of play. I just have a hard time thinking just because a kid plays or looks a certain way on his high school tape that it will translate to big boy football.

by CougStar1234 on Jan 25, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I was about to say the exact opposite, as a compliment to Apodaca

The receivers were only “high school open” on half a dozen or so of those throws. Apodaca’a margin of error was very slim and he was spot on. Highlights, yes; but, Apodaca did not throw many Int.’s either. The receivers also often killed their YAC leaving their feet. A testament to Apodaca considering his 2011 passing yardage.

A much cleaner tape than before. I like this kid. I hate his throwing motion, but doubt Leach will try to change it. He still reminds me a ton of Colin Kaeppernick.

Go Cougs!

by WSUcougar05 on Jan 25, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know much about anything....

But he does seem very comfortable with the ball. Now a lot of players, even in the NCAA, I have seen, they still look panic-y to me. As a high school QB, he seems very focused and very comfortable with the ball, even under pressure. I am very excited, he already seems very mature on the field.

by CPtheCoug on Jan 25, 2012 3:17 PM PST reply actions  

Nice

What I appreciated about these highlights is how he threw his receivers open at time. You can really see it in the first section of clips. Thats a really underrated aspect IMO.

by bliznair64@gmail.com on Jan 25, 2012 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

*times*

There should be an edit option damnit.

by bliznair64@gmail.com on Jan 25, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

He reminds me a lot of Tuel.

Probably a little more polish coming out, but still a lot of upside.

"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."

by kelly20210 on Jan 25, 2012 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

I have been wanting to talk about this.

Leach is doing a great job in recruiting kids. My question is what kind of kids are they?? Do they have the character like the kids Wulff were recruiting? Do they fix in the circle? I know that Wulff was recruiting a certain type of kid. Not only for their on the field play but also how they carried themselves off the field. The type of kids Wulff were recruiting was not trouble kids. I just hope Leach is paying some attention to this as well.

by rcook72 on Jan 25, 2012 4:52 PM PST reply actions  

Read "Swing Your Sword" if you have any doubt about the quality of players Leach goes after.

I’d argue he holds his players to the highest standard found anywhere in the country this side of the Military academies.

Case in point, he just kicked a player off the team for failing a RANDOM drug test. No police involved. Last year we saw with both the UW and WSU basketball teams that it took police involvement, and usually actual charges, before any kind of discipline was handed out.

by klokkins on Jan 25, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven't yet figured this out

Random drug tests are illegal in Washington, AFAIK. Bill Moos has said on Cougar Calls with Bill Moos that they are and that it makes it more difficult to enforce policy.

by Aaron Whiteman on Jan 26, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You haven't paid attention at all

Leach holds his players even more accountable. Just look at the defensive lineman who got kicked off the team already. When Leach was at TT, they lead the nation in graduation rate amongst players several times.

Don’t forget that there were players that Wulff recruited that got in trouble with the law.

by Coug1990 on Jan 25, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Um. Apodaca was recruited by Wulff.

None of the kids Leach has brought in have any off the field issues that I know of. Also, reading his book, he’s pretty clear on what he wants out of his kids. TJ Poloai getting show the door was an example of this. (Plus Poloai was a Wulff recruit, as were Barrington & Ataofu)

by Kyle Rancourt on Jan 25, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Every time I watched Tyree

run around like he was unsure what his job was… I couldn’t help but think about those two 3 star safeties and their rapid exit from the program. What a shame… they would be RS upper class guys now… lending depth to that particular slot on the Cougs. Especially Barrington- 6’2 225 or so and a 4.5… silly boys…. what a waste.

If you can't Go Cougs... don't go.

by hollyweirdcoug on Jan 25, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think Leach will need a "Unity Council"

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 25, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

1 stike rule for second years I believe.

Freshman are supposed to get a warning and close watch their first season because they are new to the system and haven’t heard all his speeches. It was discussed after Tj Poloai was dismissed.

by smrosendahl on Jan 27, 2012 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

rcook72 ....................... Pay attention to the Ed Britton incident.

The Captain loves this guy and wants him to succeed; and, ya’ll have more snow!!
After you digest “Swing Your Sword”, read “Double T Double” Cross. You won’t regret it.

by rose7 on Jan 25, 2012 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You're welcome, kind sir.

that is to say, F YOU KYLE RANCOURT!

I'm a glass half full kind of guy. My glass just happens to be half full of bourbon. And sitting next to several empty glasses.

by J.J. FeKl on Jan 25, 2012 6:37 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

I had the same question

but I guess those are reasonable explanations.

by CougAir on Jan 25, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Because memories are fun?

I take video of my kids smearing cake all over their faces at their first birthday party. That seems pretty dumb on its face, too.

by Jeff Nusser on Jan 25, 2012 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

My high school made a big deal out of its highlight tape for the football team at the end of the season

It was amazing how many “good plays” a 3-6 team could make in a season. It lasted about 45 minutes.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 25, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm old. It was a tape

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 25, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Look at this

This is from a 4-8 Team. It has some seriously bad ass plays.

by WazzuCrew11 on Jan 25, 2012 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Apodaca background question

Is his dad currently or formerly a HS football coach? This kid exhibits not only QB skills but projects an obvious understanding of passing attack. Leach has a unique ability to find talent AND smarts when it comes to the player that will shred the opposing defense.

by teachntexan on Jan 25, 2012 7:51 PM PST reply actions  

To piggy back on that...

What plays we saw seemed very similar to the style of offense that Leach likes to run. Of course, those were only the pass plays, but what we did see was 4 spread receivers and drop back or shotgun passing. Little or no play action or power formations. Seems like he should be a good fit, as Kyle said.

by CougAir on Jan 25, 2012 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

To be clear: Leach didn't find Apodaca.

He committed back to Paul Wulff’s staff back in June.

CougCenter In Reid We Trust, Twitter!

by Craig Powers on Jan 25, 2012 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

So out of 53 comments, 5 or 6, almost 10%, on this thread have been devoted to clarifying.......

Apodaca was recruited by Wulff.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 25, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Some of these people are from Texas and might not follow every living minute of WSU recruiting.

We’re talking about recruits and they just made an assumption that they were Leach’s, considering much of our dialog has been about the recruits Leach has brought in.

by wazzu93 on Jan 25, 2012 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

That is understandable

But, notice I was complaining about the 2nd or 3rd time. Maybe it’s just my tendency to read through a thread before I comment to make sure that I don’t become redundant.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 25, 2012 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I hear you; I do the same thing.

Apparently not everyone does that, and I try and give the new guys from Texas a break. Except of course when I’m being a dink and nicely asking people to use the reply button or open a link in a new window….

by wazzu93 on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Longmont, CO a small school?

Those crowds and stadiums look awfully small.

by Damian' on Jan 25, 2012 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

I think every state has a different level of enthusiasm for different high school sports

I grew up in Indiana and attended high school basketball games where there were crowds as large if not larger than WSU games. You could watch a high school football game in Texas of a school with 300 people and think that it was a tape from some 5A school.

Around these parts, a man could get hurt for wearing purple.

by PullManiac on Jan 25, 2012 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

One general comment about QBs and CMLs offense

It appears more then a few comments have brought up the “sidearm/low arm angle” on throws and the potential for passes to be batted down. When it comes to playing in Mike Leach’s offense, even with an O- line stacked with 6’5’’ ‘grade A beef’ across the board, the large splits give quarterbacks much larger avenues and space in the pocket, especially in the short passing game.

Check out some footage from the Graham Harrell era. The guy stands no more than 6’2’’ and while in college, was known to have a bit of an erratic throwing motion. That isn’t to say he didn’t have any passes batted down at the line. But the point is that when it comes to Mike Leach’s Air Raid, everything needs to be reevaluated- it sure as heck ain’t business as usual.

So when it comes to Apodaca, even if he does throw some wonky sidearmers every now and then, as long as he puts zip on the ball I believe he’ll be a fine fit for the Pullman Air Raid.

Thizz or die.

by mjkleko on Jan 26, 2012 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

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